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Old 07-05-2004, 07:31 PM   #31
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Thankie!

I started lower carbing my kids and my DD has grown but not gained. She is 5-3 and weighs 100 pounds (10 yrs old) she is not overweight but all the demands for sugar were killing me. Now they snack on fruit/nuts/yogurt or cheese.
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Old 07-05-2004, 08:23 PM   #32
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JELLO not JELLY

A hint to go with lunashling's post... make JELLO very thick [less water] and give her that on her peanut butter instead of jelly. Even sugar free Jellies are bad news and loaded with the wrong things. The child will never know the difference and it's sugar and CARB FREE, which sugar free jellys aren't. I have jar in my fridge from before I started on this strictly, and I wouldn't even TOUCH that sugar free jelly. I use cherry jello and blend LOTS of extra splenda in the jello for my peanut butter [now I use SOY butter which is practically the same tasting, and consistancy and soy is healthier than peanuts, too. She won't know the difference with EITHER.
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DAISYNYC..... there are sugar free baby foods, i gave them to my mother over a year ago near the end because she had no interest in food any longer, sometime mixed it [the vegies] with other foods..... diabetic and also alzheimer's and cancer mixed in. Forgot the brand name but had people buying them for me for her. Don't even remember where, but they exist.
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Great post! I'm planning on having my kids eat more low carb. So much more healthy!

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Even sugar free Jellies are bad news and loaded with the wrong things
I like the "all fruit" jam. Just fruit - no additives.

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LC works for kids! I know because I am one . Well, sorta. I started Atkins almost a year ago when I was 17 years old. Most of my friends and peers think I'm nuts to be eating walnuts and vegetables instead of doughnuts and cheezits as a snack, but whatever. It works !!! The snack machine can live without me.
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Great thread!

My kids had never had candy or cookies until they went to preschool.
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Daisy.... cereals

DAISY... The healthiest cereal you can give your child [especially now with
no teeth lol so cute] is oatmeal, and also good for cholesterol at ALL ages....
NOT the instant but one step above, the whole grained that you have to cook
an extra minute or so [Rolled oats? Old fashioned oats? Forgot what
they're called]

I'm not eating any now but still have giant containers in the house till I add
more carbs later on, [now the only carbs I eat are veg's because of my high
sugar] but I just always used to threw it in the microwave in a cup for only a
minute or two... I like it chunky and harder with more substance and not too
cooked, which I also feel is better.... the more raw foods are, the healthier,
....not cooking all the good things out of them.

And I also have many sugar free maple syrups here too from back then,
Atkin's brand, cozy corner from when I was allowing myself a little more
carbs, but not now. It has zero sugar and 4 carbs [I think the atkins is even
less... haven't looked lately]. Read the ingredients... i don't trust ANYTHING
that's in those things even with no sugar, but good for just a PINCH of
flavoring in the oatmeal, and of course splenda] but good to NOT get a child
used to needing sweetness. NOW you may be able to control it with splenda
etc., but when when they get accustomed to needing things sweet out there
in the world later, you don't know what they'll be reaching for and will always
need sweets and sweetening their foods, so better to not get them to like
things that way now.

That's taken care of at home from birth to not get them to like sweet and
sweetend things. Oatmeal I feel is much better and more wholesome than
any of the dry cereals, and in fact, better not to sweeten it at all.... since
you're lucky to be starting from scratch with a clean slate [a baby] during a
time when we're so much smarter and educated about what NOT to do to set
infants up for life. At least it's a good head start.

Don't even know if there's the equivelant of oatmeal in BRAN, which I feel is
one of the most beneficial grains for the system. I've never investigated that,
but will someday when getting back to allowing grains back in. Mixing BOTH
the bran and oats would be perfect. Like dry oatbran cereals out there, but I
feel the hot ones are better for us and more wholesome. Don't require milk,
etc. [when I had an occasional cold cereal, I had WATER with it instead of
milk, I need things sweet :-( so it tasted the same with lots of splenda and
the water. No difference. Milk to me, is poison as far as sugars go..... and
the dry and non fat and skimmed are awful tasting and just LIKE water
anyway, and not great for us either.

Adults don't need milk. It's only benefit is calcuim and that comes in much
healthier forms [vegetables, etc.] and suplements if not getting enough.
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Thanks much. I should clarify - for *food* food, there's tons of great stuff available commercially that is sugar-free etc. The best is called "Earth's Best", which is organic and contains nothing but fruit or veg + water. That is the only "baby food" I ever gave DS, as he mainly gets food that I make for him - all whole foods.

What I was referring to are the snacks they make - finger foods etc., even cheerios. These are not really given for nutrient value - they are given to develop hand/eye coordination etc. These are handy because you can take them with you everywhere and are non-perishible, but they all contain sugar. Most of my mom-friends give tons of this stuff to their kids, but having educated myself a bit about carbohydrates, I limit DS's intake. I wish there was more of this type of snack that was not so processed....

However, he is not on a low carb diet - he can only have 2-3 tablespoons of protein a day!

Thanks for all the suggestions - again, this is such a great thread.
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When I was a kid my mom used to make "flavored" pancake syrups by melting margarine and jelly together.

Like the syrups at IHOP.


Well now if you melt butter and sf jam together it makes a cool flavored syrup to put on alot of stuff!
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Old 08-31-2004, 02:44 PM   #43
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Thanks much. I should clarify - for *food* food, there's tons of great stuff available commercially that is sugar-free etc. The best is called "Earth's Best", which is organic and contains nothing but fruit or veg + water. That is the only "baby food" I ever gave DS, as he mainly gets food that I make for him - all whole foods.

What I was referring to are the snacks they make - finger foods etc., even cheerios. These are not really given for nutrient value - they are given to develop hand/eye coordination etc. These are handy because you can take them with you everywhere and are non-perishible, but they all contain sugar. Most of my mom-friends give tons of this stuff to their kids, but having educated myself a bit about carbohydrates, I limit DS's intake. I wish there was more of this type of snack that was not so processed....

However, he is not on a low carb diet - he can only have 2-3 tablespoons of protein a day!

Thanks for all the suggestions - again, this is such a great thread.
I use Earth's Best and another one, I forget the name. But even better is making your own babyfoods. I don't even use a grinder. I just take a little soft veggie or avocado and fork mash it. A little lumpiness is OK as it teaches them the real texture of foods. Also, I start my kids late, so they don't need pureed foods.

As for the Cheerios, check out your healtfood stores. Barbara's brand does have dehydrated cane juice, but nothing else. I also buy graham crackers in the healthfood section, organic with no trans-fats. When my DS is older, I can pack nuts for snacks on the run, but right now I can't even give them to my DD as she feeds them to DS.
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I've stopped using all ''powdered'' products, including splenda and Jello :-( I read Dr. Bernstein's book since my post above, who is a diabetic specialist and was the one who invelted the HOME glucometer [for testing blood sugar] and also has type one diabetes for over 50 years, would be the foremost authority on sugar spikes, important to not only
diabetics, but also just mere 'dieters' or health conscious people.... and he says the dextrose and maltodextrin in splenda equals 96% of the whole packet with only 4% of the sugar ingredient [sucralose which is the only safe thing in there that DOESN'T spike blood sugar], and the only ones that should be used are the tablet and liquid forms.

That applies to all powdered products which those two chemicals are needed in for bulk, as preservatives, etc.... including all the crystal lite type drinks and all brands, and all powdered substances. I feel the sugar spiking effect of these products are at least important to be aware of, and he personally cuts them all out entirely on his diets, and
especially those who use more than 2 packets a day of the sweetners should just be aware of this,

I use a lot of it so now stick with my saccharin tablets and also melt them in water in a tobasco bottle [for shaking only drops out] to make my own liquid sweetner for cooking, or use ANY brand tablet or liquid, including Splenda's brand, which is fine. Knox geletan with de vinci syrups [he and all low carb and sugar free experts recommend] can substitute this for jello, but I personally don't have the patience for that lol..... so I cut out jello till I decide what to do. :-( Very upset about this. Depended on my jello!

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Very upset about this. Depended on my jello!
You can still get unflavored gelatin and make it with liquid splenda/saccharine. Not as easy, but it means not giving up a good staple.
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Thanks.... yes, I know, I even have two boxes of the knox right here, but not the flavoring yet. Not that anxious because I'm sure it isn't going to be as good and the strong cherry flavor as the jello, though we do have control of how much syrup to put into the knox, but then the bottle would go too fast according to how *I* like it lol. What other syrups are available with totally no sugar but no other type sugars either and totally clean of all kinds of carbs and addatives. Will be hard to find da vinci in stores and always like to try that before internet ordering.

Any other brand that other's use that are known to be totally "CLEAN"? Might be too much of a job. I used to just fill one of those large plastic chinese soup containers half with hot TAP water, throw in the jello powder and even more sweetner, then fill up the rest with cold water, stir, and into the fridge it goes taking seconds. More work I'm not looking for, because I made it so often. I always keep it in the fridge, [and have around 50 boxes left that I won't use anymore :-(
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Can you use sugar free Koolaid? (Ingredients from the Cherry: Citric Acid (Provides Tartness), Modified Cornstarch, Calcium Phosphate (Prevents Caking), Red 40, Salt, Artificial Flavor, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Blue 1.)

Then, you can buy liquid splenda or SteviaClear to add as a sweetener, and make it with the Knox.
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Can you use sugar free Koolaid? (Ingredients from the Cherry: Citric Acid (Provides Tartness), Modified Cornstarch, Calcium Phosphate (Prevents Caking), Red 40, Salt, Artificial Flavor, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Blue 1.)

Then, you can buy liquid splenda or SteviaClear to add as a sweetener, and make it with the Knox.
You can also buy concentrated flavorings online. These come in small bottles and contain no sweeteners etc, but pack a lot of punch into a few drops. I've bought raspberry flavorings to make raspberry iced tea. I'll see if I can find the link.
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There's cornstarch in the Koolaid.... not allowed.
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Found it!

http://www.naturesflavors.com

I found this in the old days because they sold a neutral syrup base (read liquid Splenda) along with flavorings to make your own daVinci type syrups.

Because they're liquid, no corn starch or maltodextrin is included! Enjoy!
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SYRUP..... CREAM

I called [they have a great guy there at the 888 number] and he said the syrup isn't concentrated and would need about an ounce, so the way I would like it, probably more and that's a lot [the group with the raspberry flavor... no cherry but that would be ok, though it's my favorite] and the other type that IS very concentrated needing only a few drops [but we both agreed more would be necessary probably for jello but not as much as the other kind] and the concentrated kind would need the 'acid' stuff in order to taste the flavor lol, so that's already 2 products *sigh*. Do you believe how complicated this is getting? lol We were on a long time then my groceries arrived and couldn't go further.

My neighbor got me a few things when doing her shopping, and bought a whole QUART of heavy cream instead of a pint [$7] so does anyone know if heavy cream freezes well? Most of it will go bad if I don't freeze half. I never buy heavy cream because always drink coffee black, but figured what the hell lol Now I'm stuck with enough cream for a year. Does it freeze? If I had my jello worked out, that would be good for it but I won't in time and alll that the cream will go bad :-(
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My neighbor got me a few things when doing her shopping, and bought a whole QUART of heavy cream instead of a pint [$7] so does anyone know if heavy cream freezes well? Most of it will go bad if I don't freeze half. I never buy heavy cream because always drink coffee black, but figured what the hell lol Now I'm stuck with enough cream for a year. Does it freeze? If I had my jello worked out, that would be good for it but I won't in time and alll that the cream will go bad :-(
Mamzelle, try making an iced coffee with heavy cream. I also gave up my jello, (very sad), But then I discovered iced coffee. Try it.
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Oh, didn't know you were writing from this thread and put the PM here as well, so I'll paste mine here too, which is why it's a little repetitive to above.

I don't know whether you saw it anywhere but I wrote somewhere that all i have now is my sweet coffee as a desserty-ish type flavor lol so I DO use that, you're psychic..... I dont ice it but sometimes the room temperature coffee is standing and i sip that throughout the day, because I use a 16 oz. insulated mug so there's plenty left over, and today a neighbor picked me up some heavy cream [which I never use because I love my coffee black, strong & sweet and figured since i don't NEED cream, I can do without it] but I just got an urge lately and figured I'll just buy a little for once, even a half pint would have been too much, but I forgot to specify... so she got me a whole QUART of heavy cream! I couldn't believe it. I wouldn't even hardly use the PINT much less a quart lol... so I'm wondering if heavy cream freezes well? [and although the sweet coffee is better than nothing, it really doesn't replace jello but it's better than nothing, and yes with the cream it's very much like a 'dessert' taste, but I love my cherry flavor :-( I know millk freezes, but wondering about the heavy properties of the cream].

Actually, I was never much of a sweets person, nor desserts but when on atkins it's so limiting in those areas, that we can't have ANYTHING of that sort even once in a while! And my ice cream is a thing of the past so it's really replacing that.... which the cream and coffee does emulate a little.


Also... the jello had a 'refreshing' sensation since we can't have fruit, and although i'm not even a fruit eater, I do miss cantelope, [which atkins told me is the best fruit to eat when OFF induction and it happens to be my favorite] so the jello kinda also had the refreshing aspect, not only sweet dessert.

There is NOTHING really 'refreshing'' on this diet. I still can't believe I can't even eat jello anymore and that it's come to this. Not for dessert, but it was one of the very few 'free, unlimited' things and I used to pull it out of the fridge many times a day for just a few spoonfuls from the container at any time. That's how I use the cool coffee always next to me but it's not the same. It was just one more thing to make some variety of a different texture instead of always fats & protein, cheese, and salad things.... not that crazy about celery raw when not IN something [I LOVE it raw in tuna, egg salad, etc., and cooked and put tons in soups when i make them] but just plain with cream cheese doesn't thrill me lol, but of course when desperate for a different texture I do eat that.

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Mamzelle, I can understand your frustration. I was eating the cottage cheese for that reason, you know, something refreshing for a change, (since I dont eat fruit either), So I was putting Banana DaVincis in my cottage cheese. It was sooo good! But, now I gave that up too! So now my only refreshing treat is my iced coffee with heavy cream from Starbucks. Please try this. It is unbelievable!
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Just have to throw in one of my pet peeves. I want to scream when I see parents at McD's giving babies french fries to eat. They're just starting them down that high carb food journey to obesity.
I totally agree! I don't understand why parents take their kids to fast food restaurants at all! It's like, "Here Mr. Millionaire in a suit, please let me give you more money so that you can help me and my kids become sick and fat. It's so worth it because you are so nice to give us a little toy to go with our poison food and your commericals tell me I'm a good parent because I know how to make my kids happy with junk food."
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But Catherine, I DO .....I said I have that next to me 24/7 just without the ICE factor and not having put it in the FRIDGE to cool. That's why I said you must be psychic! It was here next to me last night when I wrote to you and now .....and ALWAYS is!

I've said it before various places on boards that I mix 50/50 Yuban 100% Comumbian Decaf with Dunkin Donuts Decaf and it's the most unbelievable flavor in the world. The STRENGTH is from the Columbian and the UNBELIEVABLE flavor is the Dunkin Donuts! It's just like Starbucks but to me even better and richer if that's possible but it is.

I stumbled upon dunkin online and the were having a SALE. It's normally 8.99 or something like that per pound [maybe a dollar less, long time ago, forgot] and It was half price ....2 for one so I bought 4 lbs and still drinking it. I react very strongly to even Decaf coffee, and it's like I'm drinking full caffeine so because of my sugar [they say diabetics ARE more sensitive to the effects of caffeine, even fractions]. that's why I only use one tblspn of each brand at a time, and it is SO STRONG that it lasts through TWO 16 oz mugs full and sends me flying.

I asked the nutritionist about this effect on me of even DECAF, and she said if I DO have that effect with even decaf I should cut it out because caffeine can spike sugar too, but I CAN'T this is all I have left lol.

The Comumbian is 99% caffeine free [which i have NEVER seen before] and the Dunkin is the usual 97%. It's like a dog that people always have next to them hahaha it's always there at my side to sip day and night but not NEW grounds so it's not extra caffeine. Check their site dunkindonuts.com for sales. You will never have to go back to starbucks. You can get home automatic deliveries for any time frames you want for I think 6.99 a pound but never know what they will come up with.

With the heavy cream i'm dying here. I don't want to get too used to it, because I'd rather do without the cream which is always better..... but even WITHOUT it, with this blend of coffees it's still like a 'dessert' and the most unbelievable flavors. The Yuban is only 3 and change for 1 1/2 lbs! My fiancee sends it from Ca. Stater bros. or Vons, he shops at both so forgot where the coffee is and has been sending it to me for 6 mos in the giant cans. I have three backups left of those too lol

Don't tell anyone,lol, but I use a whole GRAM of saccharin for this coffee because it's so strong that it's resistant to sweetner.... but saccharin is the sweetest. Before I learned the dangers of splenda and stopped using it, I had to use 3 and sometimes 4 packets for EACH mug!

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