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Old 02-10-2005, 08:36 PM   #421
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I jumped on the 3 day wagon Actually started mid-day yesterday.

Today's menu (I have NO appetite)
3 slices Bacon
1/2 can Tuna in water
3 eggs
1/2 cup roast pork
20 slices microcrispy pepperoni, oil poured off

I have had the nausea, been grouchy and absolutely HATE the taste of water. But I did get a cup of coffee, a diet soda and 32 ounces of water down so far. Going for another 32 at the least.

Water is always a problem for me
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:46 PM   #422
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I think I'm just an exception I'm not giving up though!
No you're not. Depending on how "over" on carbs you were beforehand (compared to Induction) and how much glycogen is in your liver ... it might take the 5 days. The "no appetite" comes along, just read other posts on the BB!
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:50 PM   #423
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That is very true, stargirl! I've been doing this over a year, and have no appetite even as I type this. Even feel a bit nauseated, but have learned not to be concerned about it.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:52 PM   #424
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Was easy to do since I had nearly NO appetite. My family kept offering to feed me I even passed up hot wings! (they were breaded)

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im not hungry at all but I do feel kinda icky and i have the headache.
Yes, it's normal. Those are the same symptoms reported by people on Atkins Induction or old-school Stillman's ... headache, nausea, cranky.

Your body is switching from carbs to body fat for fuel at a very fast rate. Some people cave in and have some carbs to stop the symptoms ... which is does! It also stops the weight loss.

Once your body has switched over (1-2 days), all the aches and pains are gone and the appetite suppression/energy kicks in. But not for the people who cave in to the siren call of sugar and quit.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:54 PM   #426
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Well, this meat/egg fast might not be for me....the just meat and eggs are starting to gross me out...I definately need more variety..maybe the 72 Atkins would be better.
It's only for 3 days and keep in mind that the difference between the 3 Day Experiment and '72 Induction is 2 handfuls of lettuce and dressing.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:57 PM   #427
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OK, a gross question...my pee looks all oily, is this normal???
TMI, but yes.
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I know if we are hungry to eat, but I'm just not hungry (LOVE IT!), but should I just slide through and not eat at all?? I know we are to listen to our bodies, but I'm thinking I'd NEVER EAT I think at this point I could live on water and coffee
Frankly, I'd say no ... but I'm a believer in water fasting and that the body lives off of its nutritional reserves.

If you feel you would be harming yourself through protein deficiency, then figure out how much 60-70 grams of protein would be (roughly 2 pieces of chicken plus 1 egg), snack on it throughout the day. Pick at a good salad with dark greens or munch on a small dish of broccoli florets throughout the day. That's old-school Atkins Induction and he said it was safe to follow for 6 months or more.

Enjoy the faster-than-you-ever-thought-possible weight loss!
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:07 PM   #429
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Im not giving in(to carbs) but I FEEL SOOOOOOOO BAD!!! Ive been on induction levels for weeks and NEVER felt like this.

Funny to because its not cravings or hunger at all-its the aches and pains that are killing me.im going to take some ibuprofen and go to bed.
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:19 PM   #430
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wow kimmer! Your weight loss is unbelievable! You have goddess like status as far as i am conserned. i know you dont know me but i have been a learker for some time now and have loved all your contributions.
It is so awsome to have stumbled upon this thread. I have been doing stillmans for 3 days now, thanks to some of your past posts. You are right about the loss of appetite...its the best feeling to be able to just say no thanks.
Anyway, last night i was thinking about gradually uping the carbs to get to 20 total over the next four days and then go back to strict stillmans after the seventh day and repeating this cycle weekly until goal. kinda like the three day plan you are talking about only 3 days of stillmans and 4 days of graduated 72 atkins.
It just seems like if i do only stillmans my weight loss could slow so i am hoping that this will continue to jolt my system and continue the loss. Does this sound good to you?

Thanks a bunch,
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Well, thank you! Loss of appetite is like nirvana to me. It's so much easier to focus on other things ... maybe self care, family ... whatever, when you have no interest in food. I love it!

Speaking only of speed, the fastest way to lose is Stillman's (old school, not the FF dessert variety). Adding veggies is healthier, certainly, but won't speed weight loss.

Think about how you're going to add 20 carbs. If it's in the 'net' carb or high cal low carb neighborhood, you're going to slow and those aren't particularly healthy for nutritional reserves.

Still, figure out what makes sense to you and do it. You (and your body) are the only one you have to answer to!
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:21 PM   #431
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Im not giving in(to carbs) but I FEEL SOOOOOOOO BAD!!! Ive been on induction levels for weeks and NEVER felt like this.

Funny to because its not cravings or hunger at all-its the aches and pains that are killing me.im going to take some ibuprofen and go to bed.
Kim, don't do anything that feels wrong for you.

Just keep in mind that "flu like symptoms" is Dr. Atkins' description of how some people feel during Induction. Purely in my opinion, I think the harder the "blahs" hit, the closer you are.

Randy is right. Some people choose not to go through the "ickies" ... in return for slower weight loss.

Do what feels best for you!
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:23 PM   #432
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Is chicken broth okay?




Yep..chicken broth is fine...zero carbs..unless it's canned or bullion...may want to check the label...but if it's homemade, It should be just fine.

This has been my first full day...deer sausage for breakfast, air baked chicken for lunch, and a ribeye for dinner. 3 eggs for "dessert" since my daughter ate half my ribeye...lol...AND the good part about that is...I DIDN'T GET MAD! Normally I would have been irritated, but that yucky ketosis feeling is coming, even though the sticks deny it. That's the thing I LOVE about ketosis...I have absolute and total control of what I put in my mouth. LOVE IT!
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:30 PM   #433
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Is cheese a no-no on the protein fast simply because it's high calorie?

I'm not talking about processed cheese or cream cheese. I'm talking about cheddar, jack, etc.
For purposes of the Experiment, skip it. Not because of the minimal carbs, but because it's really easy to overdue (calories, you're so smart!)

However, if you're going to munch just a slice (or string) ... go ahead!

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keep in mind that the difference between the 3 Day Experiment and '72 Induction is 2 handfuls of lettuce and dressing.>>>>>>>>>

Well, then I guess it would be the 72 owl....LOL...I don't know..I just need some variety, cheese etc

A few questions...when you all say you feel nauseous, do you mean in your stomach...or that feeling in your mouth/throat like you are literally going to throw up any minute? I have been having that (could be from my cold also)...and I despise that feeling...brings back horrible pregnancy thoughts.

I also feel bloated, my stomach hurts and my stomach is sticking out today..what is that?
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:38 PM   #435
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:45 PM   #436
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Hello Everyone...I've been reading this and I want to do this, but I want to make sure I'm clear on the facts. This 3 day challenge can be done for 7 weeks? I'm still stalled and still no weightloss since Jan 24th. So I've been on this Atkins way of eating since Jan 17th and the 8 pounds I lost was only in the first week. I've re-inducted and still no change. I've removed all the processed foods, and the sf jello, no caffiene, no net carb stuff and still nada! So, I want to know how long I can do this 3 day challenge? So far I read only 3 days, some mentioned 7 weeks, some say 3 months....so which one is it? I'm desparate...
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:58 PM   #437
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Hello Everyone...I've been reading this and I want to do this, but I want to make sure I'm clear on the facts. This 3 day challenge can be done for 7 weeks? I'm still stalled and still no weightloss since Jan 24th. So I've been on this Atkins way of eating since Jan 17th and the 8 pounds I lost was only in the first week. I've re-inducted and still no change. I've removed all the processed foods, and the sf jello, no caffiene, no net carb stuff and still nada! So, I want to know how long I can do this 3 day challenge? So far I read only 3 days, some mentioned 7 weeks, some say 3 months....so which one is it? I'm desparate...
Hey, no desperation mi comadre Diaz!

The 3 Day Experiment is protein only. Per Dr. Stillman, a medical doctor, it can be done until you're at goal. The idea being that obesity is more dangerous than missing veggies ... and on his program you reach goal very quickly.

If you want to transition to Atkins, add a few cups of salad and you're there.

The idea behind both plans is you get to goal FAST, then begin adding nutritious carbs.
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OH MY! I just looked at my fitday...207 grams of protein...1498 calories...is this okay? Or are we shooting for 70-80?
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OH MY! I just looked at my fitday...207 grams of protein...1498 calories...is this okay? Or are we shooting for 70-80?
Nope, your protein grams are going to go through the roof ... no sweat!

The 70-80 thing is what some may shoot for as a minimum when they have no appetite and think "ewwwww" thinking about food.
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I've read through all the posts, and want to tell everyone that Kimmer is an absolute genius when it comes to pushing the pounds off.

while I cannot advocate my diet, it led to very deep ketosis, or at least I felt it and this experiment mirrors my everyday diet.

by leaching all of the glyocegen from your body, and I mean all of it, you will experience sustainable weight loss, not experience hunger, and then you can evaluate the items you choose to add back in.

so many times I have read "I can't live without my ______", use this three days to evaluate those needs.

Kimmer is a wealth of knowledge, use her and you will know the pride and jubilation, that both she and I already know.
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:40 PM   #441
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I've read through all the posts, and want to tell everyone that Kimmer is an absolute genius when it comes to pushing the pounds off.

while I cannot advocate my diet, it led to very deep ketosis, or at least I felt it and this experiment mirrors my everyday diet.

by leaching all of the glyocegen from your body, and I mean all of it, you will experience sustainable weight loss, not experience hunger, and then you can evaluate the items you choose to add back in.

so many times I have read "I can't live without my ______", use this three days to evaluate those needs.

Kimmer is a wealth of knowledge, use her and you will know the pride and jubilation, that both she and I already know.
People, I cannot offer a stronger testimonial. This guy has peeled the pounds. Serious pounds!

Contrary to popular belief, he's survived without eating veggies ... yes, he's a veggie hater (but we love him anyway!)

I have an affinity for Diz because he has stood his ground against slings and arrows for his non-veggie stance. It was pretty rough at times and he didn't back down on his beliefs. The 3 Day Experiment is pretty much how he lives daily and he looks pretty darn healthy to me!

Read his posts and you'll find he's a serious athlete and competitive cyclist. Can we all say "10% body fat"?

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Old 02-10-2005, 10:42 PM   #442
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So many times I have read "I can't live without my ______", use this three days to evaluate those needs.
Too important, had to repeat it.
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OK, I got in 85 grams of protein and 1200 calories for the day. I really am not hungry. Now if the pounds will just come off at a decent rate, I'LL be in "NERVANA"

OK, Kimmer, can I use Carb Countdown milk in my coffee? I believe it has less carbs (3 grams per cup) and certainly less calories?? The carb count is not "net" grams. I've just started using a liquid sweetener, so the carbs from that aren't a problem.

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OK, Kimmer, can I use Carb Countdown milk in my coffee? I believe it has less carbs (3 grams per cup) and certainly less calories??
Go ahead!

If you're a serious coffee drinker, keep in mind the carbs and calories (a pot of coffee is 9 carbs alone, plus 1 for each sweetener packet).

For the Experiment, don't sweat it!
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I am currently 226 and would like to be at 140-145 by the end of September. Is it possible? I am going to start this tomorrow? Am I correct that after the 3 days I add 3 cups of lettuce? Or to stay in Real Ketosis I should stick to no carb protein only. And eat as much protein as I want, no worry about too much? Thank you Kimmer for your posts, you are one of my big heros in this BB.
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Old 02-10-2005, 11:55 PM   #446
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I am currently 226 and would like to be at 140-145 by the end of September.
Yes, entirely possible ... and before the end of September.

Staying on protein only is the fastest loss, but a few cups of very low cal veggies isn't going to hurt ... it's not the veggies, it's the excessive butter, salad dressing and cheese that do the damage.

You have a few months while losing your weight, enjoy the veggies in the produce section of your market ... you can enjoy most any of them in small amounts to maintain the very rapid weight loss.

What a nice compliment!
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I know Kimmer, Brandy and magics mom have had great success doing this.........anyone else do it for 3 months straight and lose 50 lbs?
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