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Diabeticmom2004 · 02-09-2005, 08:13 PM

I'am so excited !! I want so bad to get under 200 and I hope this will help me get there faster. Thanks for starting the challenge.

TraciLM · 02-09-2005, 08:23 PM

So glad I spent the time and read this ENTIRE thread! I'm in - I'll start tomorrow morning.

Karma · 02-09-2005, 08:40 PM

Okay it has taken me ALL DAY to read this ENTIRE thread, but I am glad that I did. I started today and have completed day one and I am not one bit hungry. I feel really good (other then a slight headache and running to the bathroom all the time..

( I can not wait until tomorrow. I LOVE this feeling....

SlimWithin26 · 02-09-2005, 08:48 PM

The package says REAL crab meat (3 servings per container) w/ no carbs, 11g protein, and 220mg sodium. Is that too much sodium. I made my menu for tomorrow as follows:

B-chicken breast w/ 2 scrambled eggs cooked in Pam

S-2oz crab meat

L- Spare Ribs

S-2 oz crab meat

D-Hamburgers w/ 2 scrambled eggs

Does this look ok? Too much or too little. I really want to get this right.

P.S. Can the foods be fried?

Freedom's Worth It! · 02-09-2005, 09:04 PM

Quote:

So glad I spent the time and read this ENTIRE thread! I'm in - I'll start tomorrow morning.

Me too!

I knocked myself out of ketosis with Dreamfields last night and I have been miserable today. Even though I have eaten good and on '72 induction today, I am still hungry. I need to detox!

Kim

Kimmer · 02-09-2005, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlimWithin26
The package says REAL crab meat (3 servings per container) w/ no carbs, 11g protein, and 220mg sodium. Is that too much sodium. I made my menu for tomorrow as follows:

B-chicken breast w/ 2 scrambled eggs cooked in Pam

S-2oz crab meat

L- Spare Ribs

S-2 oz crab meat

D-Hamburgers w/ 2 scrambled eggs

Does this look ok? Too much or too little. I really want to get this right.

P.S. Can the foods be fried?

Food choices look perfect! Yes, so ahead and fry just not go nutso on fat calories. Eat all the protein you want/need ... watch what happens!

Karma & Traci, you read the entire thread? You gals need a hobby!

Karma, the headache is part of the switching from sugar to body fat for fuel. Same deal as Atkins Induction (headache, tired, cravings, whining ... oops!) Give it 2 days and you'll feel GREAT!

s1mon3 · 02-09-2005, 10:12 PM

So I can have all the protein and diet sodas I want..and "if" I should get hungry I can use protein as a snack also right?? I have 40 pounds to go so I really need this bad!!

Wish me luck peoples!!! Thanks for all the tips..Kimmer you are "The Wise One" huh?? Glad you are on our team!!

Utamaro's Geisha · 02-09-2005, 10:15 PM

I've been doing a straight meat/fish/egg diet for the past two weeks. I cook things on a griddle with no added fat whatsoever, drink 3-4 litres of water and about half a bottle of Diet Coke per day. I tried drinking black coffee with just some Davinci but it gives me dreadful headaches (the same way "straight" Splenda does), so I went looking for other options.........and for the first time in my life I tried s/f Red Bull.........

Needless to say it went down a treat

and I started having two a day.

The only thing I put on my meat/fish/eggs is a dollop of Walden Farms 0 carb BBQ sauce and Bleu Cheese.

I have no appetite whatsoever, sailed through TOM with no hunger pangs/cravings and I'm definitely peeing for Britain, but.............no change on the scales whatsoever. Having said that my raincoat (I use that instead of a tape measure) is at least one size bigger and there's no question my body has shrunk big time.

I take a multi as well as CLA and a couple of other vitamins/aminos.

I still have one Red Bull in the fridge so I'll finish that today and, come tomorrow, I'm starting the 3-day challenge.

This means: no more Red Bull

and no more Walden Farms sauces and see whether that makes any difference to the scales.

Claire

(in pre-Red Bull shock......)

Kimmer · 02-09-2005, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by s1mon3
So I can have all the protein and diet sodas I want..and "if" I should get hungry I can use protein as a snack also right

Exactly! Eat as much as you like, drink as much as you like and absolutely use protein as a snack! I like steak chunks, tuna salad or fresh hard boiled eggs (don't like 'em cold ...)

Participants last time had really good losses by Day 3. Wait, watch and be amazed!

roeluvsparis · 02-10-2005, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmer
Exactly! Eat as much as you like, drink as much as you like and absolutely use protein as a snack! I like steak chunks, tuna salad or fresh hard boiled eggs (don't like 'em cold ...)

Participants last time had really good losses by Day 3. Wait, watch and be amazed!

Kimmer: I found that I was eating way too much fat -- so I'm cutting back AND I find that I am not missing it -- cuz I'm in ketosis -- but my question is this?

If I start taking CLA -- don't know if I need to -- but if I did -- do you think that will bump me out of ketosis? taking 4 or 5 gelcaps a day?

Peace and Namaste
roe

CarolinaRocker · 02-10-2005, 04:25 AM

OK I started this yesterday after having my 2 cups of coffee with cream and spenda...I just figued what the heck do it anyway. This morning I was down a pound! I have been waiting for that scale to move

I dont know if the protein did it or not....but Im willing to keep going to find out!

B 2 eggs 3 pieces of bacon
L 1 chicken Breast
D 1 1/2 chicken breast

Freedom's Worth It! · 02-10-2005, 05:01 AM

Lisa,
There are a few of us on the Square one 72 induction thread. We are going to be doing the meat fast first and then move on tho induction.

Kim

Diabeticmom2004 · 02-10-2005, 05:02 AM

yesterday menu was
1- cup wheat cereal
1/2 small banana
1/3 cup skim milk
1-teaspoon Equal

3-deviled eggs

3-deviled eggs
4-oz of lean pork

1-slice bacon
this morning 201.8 yesterday 203.8 exactly 2 lbs

javaaddict · 02-10-2005, 06:00 AM

WOW EVERYONE--I AM HAPPY DANCING FOR ALL OF YOU--I CAN NOT WAIT TO WEIGH MYSELF TOMORROW OR SAT AT THE GYM--I KNOW I AM NOT TRYING TO LOOSE AS MUCH AS SOME, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW EVEN A POUND CAN MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE REGAINED CONTROL AND GIVE YOU THE BOOST TO KEEP GOING.
KIMMER--I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS, JUST WANT TO THANK YOU --I KNOW IT'S BEEN SAID MANY TIMES, MANY WAYS--BUT YOU REALLY HAVE BEEN SO GENEROUS WITH YOUR TIME AND INFO, HELPING AND ENCOURAGING SO MANY PEOPLE.
STACEY

Cruzcrzy · 02-10-2005, 06:34 AM

Just read this whole thread. I'm in. Before reading this I had coffee w/milk and some sf syrup, but am going to start today anyway. I have eggs on the stove boiling now. We are suppose to be having dinner out with friends this weekend, but I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

Marie

honeybear · 02-10-2005, 06:50 AM

I found this thread yesterday and have been skimming through it and decided to try this three day experiment starting at lunch time (as I had already had breakfast with cheese). I've been bouncing around the same weight for quite awhile now...but today, I am finally down a pound!! Not only that, but I also slowed down my workouts to just walking and 40 minutes of weight training yesterday...so I'm trying to figure out what really got the scale moving...was it cutting my carbs way down or was it slowing down my workouts? Or was it both??!!?? I will continue doing nothing but walking while doing this experiment. And if the scale keeps moving downwards, then I know my workouts were probably a little too intense.

JONAH'S GRANNY · 02-10-2005, 07:27 AM

Good going Honeybear. I'm going to join this challenge starting Monday. Need to get in ketosis.

Karma · 02-10-2005, 07:43 AM

Okay today is day today... yesterday morning when I stepped on the scale it was up to 188

and I was so upset. TOM had just been here, I had been over eating (legal foods but still to much) and hten I caved and ate Pizza with Dh

So yesterday I jumped on and started this Challenge. Today I am down to 185,

I am in Ketosis, and feel like a million bucks. I decided yesterday that I am giong to do this for the 3 days and then re-evaluate how I feel. If I am feeling good about it I will continue on. I would LOVE to do this the whole Lent season, but if I can not do it for that length of time then I will be more then happy with doing it the three days or more that I do succeed at.

Kimmer, thanks so much. I had no idea that this thread existed and I am so pleased. I am going to get to my goal... I have come to far (160 pounds) not to....

s1mon3 · 02-10-2005, 07:52 AM

Wow Karma, 3 pounds in a day?? I never knew that was possible..and you just started the 3 day experiment yesterday?? I am impressed..

Lisa Rae · 02-10-2005, 07:54 AM

John,

Some people never show on the sticks..and ARE indeed in ketosis! You can also look for the signs of ketosis as a guide

Dragons breath, strong smelling urine and or sweat, lack of appitite, more energy..and last but never least..loss of inces and or lbs.

Also..ketosis is not the key to loss. Yes, Atkins does want you in ketosis..however..many very successful people and other plans ARE low-carb and do not have you in ketosis.

We're all working on healthy eating and weightloss..let the sticks be a tool..never the rule

GraphicQueen · 02-10-2005, 08:08 AM

But Hard Boiled Eggs, or any eggs for that matter do have carbs, albeit low but they still have them.

GQ

John_Y · 02-10-2005, 08:17 AM

Thanks Lisa Rae. I've always felt like there must be something wrong with me to not be able to be in ketosis when Dr. A said it has to happen. I didn't know you could be in ketosis and not show on the stix. I have never done anything as draconian as the meat and egg fast though. I've always eaten cheese and dairy if I totally eliminated carbs. This should be interesting.

Again, thanks for the info.

John

honeybear · 02-10-2005, 08:19 AM

I never even count the carbs in eggs. Never have. I'm almost thinking they don't have enough carbs in them to really matter, do they?

I forgot to add in my other post that if I still continue to lose doing this, then I'll know not only were my workouts too intense but my carbs were too high as well...

Sheyla

Kernie · 02-10-2005, 08:39 AM

I am so excited about finding this thread. I have been sitting here for quite a while reading.

Today is the Day

I am excited to start. Thanks for all of the information. Ketosis here I come!!!!!!!

Kimmer · 02-10-2005, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Songbird1963
I dont know if the protein did it or not....but Im willing to keep going to find out!

The protein didn't do it, the lack of carbs did ... try your menu with toast & hash browns, no go on weight loss.

Congrats to you!

Kimmer · 02-10-2005, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeybear
I never even count the carbs in eggs. Never have. I'm almost thinking they don't have enough carbs in them to really matter, do they?

They have .6 per large egg. Eggs are actually two thirds fat!

During my weight loss phase I counted every carb ... eggs, coffee, tea, diet soda, cheese ... all the "little" ones because they sure add up fast!

For purposes of this experiment, skip the .6 carb count.

Kimmer · 02-10-2005, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John_Y
I didn't know you could be in ketosis and not show on the stix.

I've never bought the sticks (I'm too cheap and too obsessive-compulsive), but others have said that there are different types of sticks and maybe some have bought those that measure sugar instead. Dunno?

Truth be told, the fats won't interfere with achieving what I term 'real' ketosis, but they will affect weight loss for our short three days. Such a good sport you are!

Additionally, some have posted that those who exercise a great deal burn off the ketones they're producing and have nothing left in their systems to register on sticks. Seems awfully complex.

stargirl21 · 02-10-2005, 09:30 AM

Hey everyone!
I have been doing something very similar to this. I did Stillmans for 2 days and yesterday started eating fattier meats but still no veggies, cheese, etc. I may have over ate yesterday

I had about 8 oz worth of hamburger meat and 14 wings!!! I am embarrassed to say I ate that many! But that is all i ate ALL DAY. My hunger hasnt completely gone away but its different. I just dont feel the need to eat....I could, but I just dont need to. Also, any cravings whatsoever are gone. Totally. I dont care if someone would put a piece of cake in front of me, I wouldnt really want it.
I havent weighed myself at all but I am keeping this up til next friday when I'm going to visit my sis, then I'm going back to induction (just to make things a little easier) then hopefully right back on to the meat fast

I also gave up coffee for lent so I'm only drinking green tea and water- no sodas.

My menu:
B: 2 hb eggs (Kimmer I'm with you- I LOVE them warm!)
L: skinless chicken breast
D: chicken breast- hb eggs if needed

Good luck everyone!!!

Alie

02-09-2005, 10:12 PM	#307
s1mon3 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On my way to VICTORY!!! Posts: 9,149 Blog Entries: 108 Gallery: s1mon3 Stats: 210/181/150ish - 160ish WOE: Induction/LC Start Date: September 10, 2008	I am in tomorrow!!! So I can have all the protein and diet sodas I want..and "if" I should get hungry I can use protein as a snack also right?? I have 40 pounds to go so I really need this bad!! Wish me luck peoples!!! Thanks for all the tips..Kimmer you are "The Wise One" huh?? Glad you are on our team!!

02-10-2005, 07:54 AM	#320
Lisa Rae Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, Ca Posts: 10,271 Gallery: Lisa Rae Stats: 250+/???/150 WOE: Atkins or Bust! Also Smoke Free! Start Date: September 15th, 2000	John, Some people never show on the sticks..and ARE indeed in ketosis! You can also look for the signs of ketosis as a guide Dragons breath, strong smelling urine and or sweat, lack of appitite, more energy..and last but never least..loss of inces and or lbs. Also..ketosis is not the key to loss. Yes, Atkins does want you in ketosis..however..many very successful people and other plans ARE low-carb and do not have you in ketosis. We're all working on healthy eating and weightloss..let the sticks be a tool..never the rule __________________ 250++/???/150 Quit smoking and gained 35 back!! Working towards goal once again ( Still not smoking though! Woo Hoo) Atkins for Life! "I'm not Bad, I'm just drawn that Way!"..Jessica Rabbit Last edited by Lisa Rae : 02-10-2005 at 07:56 AM.

02-10-2005, 09:30 AM	#328
stargirl21 foxy librarian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: from PA, now VA Posts: 5,845 Gallery: stargirl21	Hey everyone! I have been doing something very similar to this. I did Stillmans for 2 days and yesterday started eating fattier meats but still no veggies, cheese, etc. I may have over ate yesterday I had about 8 oz worth of hamburger meat and 14 wings!!! I am embarrassed to say I ate that many! But that is all i ate ALL DAY. My hunger hasnt completely gone away but its different. I just dont feel the need to eat....I could, but I just dont need to. Also, any cravings whatsoever are gone. Totally. I dont care if someone would put a piece of cake in front of me, I wouldnt really want it. I havent weighed myself at all but I am keeping this up til next friday when I'm going to visit my sis, then I'm going back to induction (just to make things a little easier) then hopefully right back on to the meat fast I also gave up coffee for lent so I'm only drinking green tea and water- no sodas. My menu: B: 2 hb eggs (Kimmer I'm with you- I LOVE them warm!) L: skinless chicken breast D: chicken breast- hb eggs if needed Good luck everyone!!! Alie __________________ Getting married July 2010!

02-09-2005, 08:13 PM	#301
Diabeticmom2004 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 443 Gallery: Diabeticmom2004 Stats: 267/185/144 WOE: LowCarb 5'4" Start Date: July2004	I'am so excited !! I want so bad to get under 200 and I hope this will help me get there faster. Thanks for starting the challenge.

02-09-2005, 08:23 PM	#302
TraciLM Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Richardson, Alaska Posts: 119 Gallery: TraciLM Stats: 177/164/140 - 5'9" WOE: Low carb Start Date: July 5, 2007	So glad I spent the time and read this ENTIRE thread! I'm in - I'll start tomorrow morning.

02-09-2005, 08:40 PM	#303
Karma Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 363 Gallery: Karma Stats: 328/193/170 WOE: Atkins72 & CLA/GLA Start Date: Dec 13/99 Restart July 06	Okay it has taken me ALL DAY to read this ENTIRE thread, but I am glad that I did. I started today and have completed day one and I am not one bit hungry. I feel really good (other then a slight headache and running to the bathroom all the time.. ( I can not wait until tomorrow. I LOVE this feeling....

02-09-2005, 08:48 PM	#304
SlimWithin26 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South Texas Posts: 747 Gallery: SlimWithin26 Stats: Start 293.4/279.8/199 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	The package says REAL crab meat (3 servings per container) w/ no carbs, 11g protein, and 220mg sodium. Is that too much sodium. I made my menu for tomorrow as follows: B-chicken breast w/ 2 scrambled eggs cooked in Pam S-2oz crab meat L- Spare Ribs S-2 oz crab meat D-Hamburgers w/ 2 scrambled eggs Does this look ok? Too much or too little. I really want to get this right. P.S. Can the foods be fried?

02-09-2005, 10:15 PM	#308
Utamaro's Geisha Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 744 Gallery: Utamaro's Geisha Stats: / /139 WOE: Stillman Start Date: January 2005	I've been doing a straight meat/fish/egg diet for the past two weeks. I cook things on a griddle with no added fat whatsoever, drink 3-4 litres of water and about half a bottle of Diet Coke per day. I tried drinking black coffee with just some Davinci but it gives me dreadful headaches (the same way "straight" Splenda does), so I went looking for other options.........and for the first time in my life I tried s/f Red Bull......... Needless to say it went down a treat and I started having two a day. The only thing I put on my meat/fish/eggs is a dollop of Walden Farms 0 carb BBQ sauce and Bleu Cheese. I have no appetite whatsoever, sailed through TOM with no hunger pangs/cravings and I'm definitely peeing for Britain, but.............no change on the scales whatsoever. Having said that my raincoat (I use that instead of a tape measure) is at least one size bigger and there's no question my body has shrunk big time. I take a multi as well as CLA and a couple of other vitamins/aminos. I still have one Red Bull in the fridge so I'll finish that today and, come tomorrow, I'm starting the 3-day challenge. This means: no more Red Bull and no more Walden Farms sauces and see whether that makes any difference to the scales. Claire (in pre-Red Bull shock......)

02-10-2005, 04:25 AM	#311
CarolinaRocker Sugar High Hooligan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Crazy Town Posts: 39,407 Gallery: CarolinaRocker Stats: - 24! WOE: LowCarb 7-21-08	OK I started this yesterday after having my 2 cups of coffee with cream and spenda...I just figued what the heck do it anyway. This morning I was down a pound! I have been waiting for that scale to move I dont know if the protein did it or not....but Im willing to keep going to find out! B 2 eggs 3 pieces of bacon L 1 chicken Breast D 1 1/2 chicken breast

02-10-2005, 05:01 AM	#312
Freedom's Worth It! MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,798 Gallery: Freedom's Worth It! Stats: 241/187/135 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Restart 1/1/2005	Lisa, There are a few of us on the Square one 72 induction thread. We are going to be doing the meat fast first and then move on tho induction. Kim

02-10-2005, 05:02 AM	#313
Diabeticmom2004 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 443 Gallery: Diabeticmom2004 Stats: 267/185/144 WOE: LowCarb 5'4" Start Date: July2004	yesterday menu was 1- cup wheat cereal 1/2 small banana 1/3 cup skim milk 1-teaspoon Equal 3-deviled eggs 3-deviled eggs 4-oz of lean pork 1-slice bacon this morning 201.8 yesterday 203.8 exactly 2 lbs

02-10-2005, 06:00 AM	#314
javaaddict Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 818 Gallery: javaaddict Stats: 5"6/ highest-160 (Cushing's Disease). current 123 WOE: atkins Start Date: 7/03	WOW EVERYONE--I AM HAPPY DANCING FOR ALL OF YOU--I CAN NOT WAIT TO WEIGH MYSELF TOMORROW OR SAT AT THE GYM--I KNOW I AM NOT TRYING TO LOOSE AS MUCH AS SOME, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW EVEN A POUND CAN MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE REGAINED CONTROL AND GIVE YOU THE BOOST TO KEEP GOING. KIMMER--I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS, JUST WANT TO THANK YOU --I KNOW IT'S BEEN SAID MANY TIMES, MANY WAYS--BUT YOU REALLY HAVE BEEN SO GENEROUS WITH YOUR TIME AND INFO, HELPING AND ENCOURAGING SO MANY PEOPLE. STACEY

02-10-2005, 06:34 AM	#315
Cruzcrzy MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,086 Gallery: Cruzcrzy Stats: 194/177/155 WOE: Intuitive eating Start Date: March 2007	Just read this whole thread. I'm in. Before reading this I had coffee w/milk and some sf syrup, but am going to start today anyway. I have eggs on the stove boiling now. We are suppose to be having dinner out with friends this weekend, but I will cross that bridge when I come to it. Marie

02-10-2005, 06:50 AM	#316
honeybear Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 559 Gallery: honeybear WOE: Atkins- cclm 45 ccll 40 Start Date: Feb 2002	I found this thread yesterday and have been skimming through it and decided to try this three day experiment starting at lunch time (as I had already had breakfast with cheese). I've been bouncing around the same weight for quite awhile now...but today, I am finally down a pound!! Not only that, but I also slowed down my workouts to just walking and 40 minutes of weight training yesterday...so I'm trying to figure out what really got the scale moving...was it cutting my carbs way down or was it slowing down my workouts? Or was it both??!!?? I will continue doing nothing but walking while doing this experiment. And if the scale keeps moving downwards, then I know my workouts were probably a little too intense.

02-10-2005, 07:27 AM	#317
JONAH'S GRANNY Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 7,655 Gallery: JONAH'S GRANNY Stats: Not telling WOE: Lower Carb Start Date: 01/03/2008/Originally 2003	Good going Honeybear. I'm going to join this challenge starting Monday. Need to get in ketosis.

02-10-2005, 07:43 AM	#318
Karma Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 363 Gallery: Karma Stats: 328/193/170 WOE: Atkins72 & CLA/GLA Start Date: Dec 13/99 Restart July 06	Okay today is day today... yesterday morning when I stepped on the scale it was up to 188 and I was so upset. TOM had just been here, I had been over eating (legal foods but still to much) and hten I caved and ate Pizza with Dh So yesterday I jumped on and started this Challenge. Today I am down to 185, I am in Ketosis, and feel like a million bucks. I decided yesterday that I am giong to do this for the 3 days and then re-evaluate how I feel. If I am feeling good about it I will continue on. I would LOVE to do this the whole Lent season, but if I can not do it for that length of time then I will be more then happy with doing it the three days or more that I do succeed at. Kimmer, thanks so much. I had no idea that this thread existed and I am so pleased. I am going to get to my goal... I have come to far (160 pounds) not to....

02-10-2005, 07:52 AM	#319
s1mon3 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On my way to VICTORY!!! Posts: 9,149 Blog Entries: 108 Gallery: s1mon3 Stats: 210/181/150ish - 160ish WOE: Induction/LC Start Date: September 10, 2008	Wow Karma, 3 pounds in a day?? I never knew that was possible..and you just started the 3 day experiment yesterday?? I am impressed..

02-10-2005, 08:08 AM	#321
GraphicQueen Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 251 Gallery: GraphicQueen	But Hard Boiled Eggs, or any eggs for that matter do have carbs, albeit low but they still have them. GQ

02-10-2005, 08:17 AM	#322
John_Y Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Francisco. CA Posts: 204 Gallery: John_Y Stats: 353/285.5/230 WOE: Atkins	Thanks Lisa Rae. I've always felt like there must be something wrong with me to not be able to be in ketosis when Dr. A said it has to happen. I didn't know you could be in ketosis and not show on the stix. I have never done anything as draconian as the meat and egg fast though. I've always eaten cheese and dairy if I totally eliminated carbs. This should be interesting. Again, thanks for the info. John

02-10-2005, 08:19 AM	#323
honeybear Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 559 Gallery: honeybear WOE: Atkins- cclm 45 ccll 40 Start Date: Feb 2002	I never even count the carbs in eggs. Never have. I'm almost thinking they don't have enough carbs in them to really matter, do they? I forgot to add in my other post that if I still continue to lose doing this, then I'll know not only were my workouts too intense but my carbs were too high as well... Sheyla

02-10-2005, 08:39 AM	#324
Kernie Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hamilton, Montana Posts: 83 Gallery: Kernie Stats: 239/223.5/150	I am so excited about finding this thread. I have been sitting here for quite a while reading. Today is the Day I am excited to start. Thanks for all of the information. Ketosis here I come!!!!!!!