Paleo vs. Atkins

wifetoEdmotherof10 · 03-04-2013, 03:59 AM

Okay, I have some questions for you all. I have been reading through some threads and some other blogs and Paleo reminds me of Nourishing Traditions style eating. I am currently doing Atkins and I think I chose that plan because I know it and I can have dairy. I am in ketosis and have been for close to a week and have experienced that "high" they talk about. But now I am very tired and feel irritable. I am second guessing my decision I think.
My questions are: Some say raw dairy is acceptable, is this true?
Will I experience weight loss on this plan? I have about 100#'s to lose.

We believe that you should eat as close to the way God created the food, so I like that part about this plan. I am just curious about the weight loss.

Thanks,
Tina

PaleoRainy · 03-04-2013, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wifetoEdmotherof10

My questions are: Some say raw dairy is acceptable, is this true?

Hard to tell, 'some say' so for some it's ok. You should try and see what it does to you but for sure I can tell no dairy is allowed in Cordain's book.

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Originally Posted by wifetoEdmotherof10

Will I experience weight loss on this plan? I have about 100#'s to lose.

When I had a lot to lose I definitely lost it but when approaching goal I stopped losing. That does not mean that YOU will lose or not, you must try it to know.

Mistizoom · 03-05-2013, 12:06 PM

If you are interested in "paleo" but don't want to give up dairy you can do "primal" instead. Primal is basically paleo plus (high quality) dairy. Mark's Sisson (Mark's Daily Apple website) is a major proponent of primal eating. Personally, I think primal/paleo is one of the healthiest ways of eating, but as I would have to do low-carb primal/paelo (meaning no sweet potatoes, no natural sweeteners like honey or maple syrup, minimal fruits) I am not ready for that yet. I need some artifical sweeteners to get through my day. So I am more Atkins-ish than anything.

If you are tired and irritable, are you eating enough food/getting enough calories? Are you getting enough sleep? Are you taking any supplements? Hang in there!

ETA: I started with Nourishing Traditions type eating a number of years ago. Still think many of those ideas are valid, but I think the "no grains" of paleo/primal is better.

mysades · 03-07-2013, 09:14 PM

I am on a low carb paleo diet. I do not eat dairy, but some do. I have been losing weight at a decent rate and have over 100 pounds to lose.

wifetoEdmotherof10 · 03-10-2013, 11:51 AM

Sorry it took so long to reply to you all but sap season has begun and it is flowing well right now, so I haven't been on computer much.
Thanks for all the replies..I am trying so hard to make a good decision and not be the one to say, oh, this isn't working let me try this one, and keep switching. I am researching before making any decisions.
We have our own dairy cows and I make butter, sour cream, cream cheese, etc... so I have a high quality dairy that I am finding difficult to give up.

Mistizoom · 03-11-2013, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wifetoEdmotherof10

Sorry it took so long to reply to you all but sap season has begun and it is flowing well right now, so I haven't been on computer much.
Thanks for all the replies..I am trying so hard to make a good decision and not be the one to say, oh, this isn't working let me try this one, and keep switching. I am researching before making any decisions.
We have our own dairy cows and I make butter, sour cream, cream cheese, etc... so I have a high quality dairy that I am finding difficult to give up.

Oh, man, if you have your own dairy cows I would see no reason what so ever to give it up, especially the high fat stuff (maybe avoid the milk itself). Seriously, take a look at Mark's Daily Apple...search on his site for "dairy" and you'll get tons of good info. He does a good job reseraching and really understanding the topics he writes about.

kayellr · 03-12-2013, 06:17 PM

You can actually do both. Atkins is focused on strict carb control with other recommendations that need to be followed for good results - amount of protein per meal, a set number of vegetable carbs to meet each day, electrolytes to beat back the lc flu etc.

Paleo does not have any set carb limits at all - that really depends on the person doing paleo. Paleo (and primal) are more about food quality, and avoiding foods like grains, seed oils, beans that we are not evolved for.

So just do Atkins, skip the products (lots of people do), don't eat fake foods or sweeteners, don't eat grains etc in later stages, follow all the steps and info in the books and eat good clean paleo quality foods.

wifetoEdmotherof10 · 03-12-2013, 07:59 PM

kjayellr: This is pretty much how we eat all the time, but now we no longer have the grains/sugars, etc. We don't use fake or processed foods.
We raise all our own meat and dairy and grow our own vegetable, so we know the quality. I believe we should eat as close to the way God created the food as we can. Albeit I am still human and have enjoyed way too much sugars and breads, which is why I am in this mess in the first place

I also believe that the grains are not the same as in biblical times because they used to let them lay in the field and possibly there was sprouting going on. We don't have that anymore.

03-04-2013, 03:59 AM	#1
wifetoEdmotherof10 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 33 Gallery: wifetoEdmotherof10	Paleo vs. Atkins Okay, I have some questions for you all. I have been reading through some threads and some other blogs and Paleo reminds me of Nourishing Traditions style eating. I am currently doing Atkins and I think I chose that plan because I know it and I can have dairy. I am in ketosis and have been for close to a week and have experienced that "high" they talk about. But now I am very tired and feel irritable. I am second guessing my decision I think. My questions are: Some say raw dairy is acceptable, is this true? Will I experience weight loss on this plan? I have about 100#'s to lose. We believe that you should eat as close to the way God created the food, so I like that part about this plan. I am just curious about the weight loss. Thanks, Tina

03-05-2013, 12:06 PM	#3
Mistizoom Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 966 Gallery: Mistizoom Stats: 300/248/190 initial goal WOE: low carb Start Date: November 2012	If you are interested in "paleo" but don't want to give up dairy you can do "primal" instead. Primal is basically paleo plus (high quality) dairy. Mark's Sisson (Mark's Daily Apple website) is a major proponent of primal eating. Personally, I think primal/paleo is one of the healthiest ways of eating, but as I would have to do low-carb primal/paelo (meaning no sweet potatoes, no natural sweeteners like honey or maple syrup, minimal fruits) I am not ready for that yet. I need some artifical sweeteners to get through my day. So I am more Atkins-ish than anything. If you are tired and irritable, are you eating enough food/getting enough calories? Are you getting enough sleep? Are you taking any supplements? Hang in there! ETA: I started with Nourishing Traditions type eating a number of years ago. Still think many of those ideas are valid, but I think the "no grains" of paleo/primal is better. Last edited by Mistizoom; 03-05-2013 at 12:10 PM..

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03-07-2013, 09:14 PM	#4
mysades Junior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pac NW Posts: 33 Gallery: mysades Stats: 271/230/125 WOE: low carb paleo Start Date: 01/22/13	I am on a low carb paleo diet. I do not eat dairy, but some do. I have been losing weight at a decent rate and have over 100 pounds to lose.

03-10-2013, 11:51 AM	#5
wifetoEdmotherof10 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 33 Gallery: wifetoEdmotherof10	Sorry it took so long to reply to you all but sap season has begun and it is flowing well right now, so I haven't been on computer much. Thanks for all the replies..I am trying so hard to make a good decision and not be the one to say, oh, this isn't working let me try this one, and keep switching. I am researching before making any decisions. We have our own dairy cows and I make butter, sour cream, cream cheese, etc... so I have a high quality dairy that I am finding difficult to give up.

03-12-2013, 06:17 PM	#7
kayellr Junior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Virginia, US Posts: 40 Gallery: kayellr Stats: 5'5" 195/183.2/135 WOE: Primal/LCHF/Nutritional Ketosis Start Date: 1/29/2013	You can actually do both. Atkins is focused on strict carb control with other recommendations that need to be followed for good results - amount of protein per meal, a set number of vegetable carbs to meet each day, electrolytes to beat back the lc flu etc. Paleo does not have any set carb limits at all - that really depends on the person doing paleo. Paleo (and primal) are more about food quality, and avoiding foods like grains, seed oils, beans that we are not evolved for. So just do Atkins, skip the products (lots of people do), don't eat fake foods or sweeteners, don't eat grains etc in later stages, follow all the steps and info in the books and eat good clean paleo quality foods.

03-12-2013, 07:59 PM	#8
wifetoEdmotherof10 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 33 Gallery: wifetoEdmotherof10	kjayellr: This is pretty much how we eat all the time, but now we no longer have the grains/sugars, etc. We don't use fake or processed foods. We raise all our own meat and dairy and grow our own vegetable, so we know the quality. I believe we should eat as close to the way God created the food as we can. Albeit I am still human and have enjoyed way too much sugars and breads, which is why I am in this mess in the first place I also believe that the grains are not the same as in biblical times because they used to let them lay in the field and possibly there was sprouting going on. We don't have that anymore.