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Old 01-23-2012, 10:28 AM   #211
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Mamasooze, I admire your ability to eat just 1 ounce of nuts. Nuts are a food I cannot control - I absolutely love them, and they're so easy to grab and eat - too easy, unfortunately. For the time being I'm living a nut free existence. Maybe I'll try again next month. . . .

I have pork shoulder loaded with spices cooking in my crock pot today (got the recipe from some paleo site) and it smells heavenly. If my pulled pork dinner tastes half as good as it smells I'm going to be a happy girl this evening.

Does anyone have favorite primal crock pot recipes to share? I love my crock pot and I'd love to expand my paleo/primal repertoire.
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I was wondering if weight loss was one of your primary goals I understand that simply taking out carbs(grains) will do wonders..but what happens when/if you stall??

How do you all feel about refeeds and such for someone who weight trains? Like every 7-14 days refill the muscles with glycogen with potato/rice and maybe oats.

veggies and fruits are carbs. And a carb is a carb, right? But doesn't the body process those things differently for recovery purposes??

I have the book paleo for athletes actually and I can get back to you all on those questions
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Admire me all you want Maryo--but I didn't mention pistachios and cashews. LOL Don't keep them in the house, no way! I have to make a dessert for dinner club on Saturday that calls for pistachios so I will go to HEB (grocery) and buy in bulk EXACTLY the amount I need for the recipe. God help me! Those two nuts can make me nuts

Here's a good slow cooker pork on my tumblr site:
All I can say is

It seems very Thanksgiving-ish especially if you serve some baked/pureed sweet potatoes on the side. Have a few other slow cooker pork recipes on the site. Maybe even the one Maryo is making. I can smell it from here

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B-Banana/coconut/chocolate whey smoothie (got up late and had to go walk)
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L-wedge of lettuce, avocado, tomato, bacon, oil/vinegar dressing
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D-Grilled shrimp salad, artichoke hearts, cucumbers, so may try to make it Greek-ish (forgot to put anything out to thaw--shrimp is easiest)
dessert--3 small squares 70% chocolate

Exercise: Got in 40 minutes of jog/walk/run before rain started.
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Mamasooze, I admire your ability to eat just 1 ounce of nuts. Nuts are a food I cannot control - I absolutely love them, and they're so easy to grab and eat - too easy, unfortunately. For the time being I'm living a nut free existence. Maybe I'll try again next month. . . .

I have pork shoulder loaded with spices cooking in my crock pot today (got the recipe from some paleo site) and it smells heavenly. If my pulled pork dinner tastes half as good as it smells I'm going to be a happy girl this evening.

Does anyone have favorite primal crock pot recipes to share? I love my crock pot and I'd love to expand my paleo/primal repertoire.
I don't have any recipes, really, but I my crockpot, too. I try to use it once a week. Any chunk-o-meat or whole chicken goes in it. Chili, too.

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I was wondering if weight loss was one of your primary goals I understand that simply taking out carbs(grains) will do wonders..but what happens when/if you stall??

How do you all feel about refeeds and such for someone who weight trains? Like every 7-14 days refill the muscles with glycogen with potato/rice and maybe oats.

veggies and fruits are carbs. And a carb is a carb, right? But doesn't the body process those things differently for recovery purposes??

I have the book paleo for athletes actually and I can get back to you all on those questions
My primary reason for Primal is health. My primary reason for JUDDD is weightloss. I've still hovering around 150 since the first of the month. Got some things going on, may have to restrategerize when things settle.

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Admire me all you want Maryo--but I didn't mention pistachios and cashews. LOL Don't keep them in the house, no way! I have to make a dessert for dinner club on Saturday that calls for pistachios so I will go to HEB (grocery) and buy in bulk EXACTLY the amount I need for the recipe. God help me! Those two nuts can make me nuts
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Does anyone have favorite primal crock pot recipes to share? I love my crock pot and I'd love to expand my paleo/primal repertoire.
I'm a big fan of the crock pot too! I really hate to cook so my husband does most of it, but I have no problem with prep. One meal I'm really happy with lately is barbecue country style pork ribs. You can also use a pork butt roast cut into 6 pieces or so. If there's excess fat, I trim the meat. So delicious and easy to make! I use Mark's recipe from MDA for the barbecue sauce, but change things just a little.

I use an entire small can of tomato paste (6 ounces) and double the rest of the ingredients, eliminate the hot sauce and add about 1 teaspoon of cayenne. If you like your bbq sauce spicy and hot, then this is the ticket! Instead of honey, I use some Truvia. I eliminate the cinnamon just because I prefer the flavor w/o it, mix in 1 tablespoon of lazy garlic (pre-chopped minced garlic in water), add a dash of Johnny's Seasoning Salt (contains MSG so avoid if you don't like it) and some Wright's Liquid Smoke to taste. Last time I forgot to double the water, but the thick sauce stuck very well to the pork.

After making the barbecue sauce, put approximately 3 lbs of pork into the crock pot. Slather on about 2/3 of your sauce and cook on high for about 5 hours. There's no need to add any additional liquid. You can serve the pork with additional sauce or refrigerate any leftover sauce. Here's the original recipe:

Primal Barbecue Sauce

1/3 cup (about 3 ounces) tomato paste
2 tablespoons melted butter
1/2 – 1 teaspoon hot sauce
1 – 2 tablespoons honey
2 – 3 tablespoons apple cider vinegar
2 teaspoons tamari
1/2 teaspoon mustard
2 tablespoons water
1⁄4 teaspoon ground allspice
1⁄4 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1⁄4 teaspoon ground black pepper
1⁄2 teaspoon chili powder
1⁄2 teaspoon paprika
1/2 teaspoon onion powder

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In a small bowl mix together tomato paste, butter, hot sauce, honey, vinegar, tamari, mustard and water.

In another small bowl mix together allspice, cinnamon, pepper, chili powder, paprika and onion powder.

Mix the spices in with the wet ingredients.

Brush on meat before grilling or dip cooked meat into the sauce.
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My primary REASON is for health..but my primary GOAL is weight loss.

That makes sense, primal for health/JUDDD for weight loss!

I'm still struggling everyday but I've been good. We've been pretty poor and can't afford my appetite in veggies.

Its going to get better(SOON!) and hopefully wont be so hard.

I went without dinner last night out of stubborn-ness. My hubby was making homemade mac n cheese and I asked kindly if he could set me some hamburger aside. And he rolled his eyes all huffy like and I said, 'NEVERMIND! I won't eat then..sheesh!'
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My primary REASON is for health..but my primary GOAL is weight loss.

That makes sense, primal for health/JUDDD for weight loss!

I'm still struggling everyday but I've been good. We've been pretty poor and can't afford my appetite in veggies.

Its going to get better(SOON!) and hopefully wont be so hard.

I went without dinner last night out of stubborn-ness. My hubby was making homemade mac n cheese and I asked kindly if he could set me some hamburger aside. And he rolled his eyes all huffy like and I said, 'NEVERMIND! I won't eat then..sheesh!'
Haha, you and I are in a similar situation. I live with my girlfriend, and ever since I started the Primal Diet in November, she's told me constantly that I am no fun to eat with anymore. She's a vegetarian who doesn't really like veggies, go figure. So even though I eat tons of veggies, our meals still really aren't that similar anymore. Oh well, what can you do, right?
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A vegetarian that doesn't eat veggies??!

sorry, that's funny!
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Ok, I found the answer to my questions from yesterday:



"eating low glycemin fruits and vegetables may certainly replace such deficiencies but will be accompanied by several pounds of fiber. Such a diet will also be slow to replace expended glycogen stores in the muscles following hard workouts or races."

It's mainly concerning those that train 10-35hrs a week..or for example bodybuilders who train 2x/day.

Personally I'm in the gym 3x/week and I do total body training with weights. On the other days I do yoga/pilates and bw exercises. And I walk at least 3-5 hrs/week. More like 3 but looking to add on as it gets warmer.

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Ok, I found the answer to my questions from yesterday:



"eating low glycemin fruits and vegetables may certainly replace such deficiencies but will be accompanied by several pounds of fiber. Such a diet will also be slow to replace expended glycogen stores in the muscles following hard workouts or races."

It's mainly concerning those that train 10-35hrs a week..or for example bodybuilders who train 2x/day.

Personally I'm in the gym 3x/week and I do total body training with weights. On the other days I do yoga/pilates and bw exercises. And I walk at least 3-5 hrs/week. More like 3 but looking to add on as it gets warmer.
Wow. I'm impressed. I don't train, I just walk/jog/run and do my Kinect (x-box) on wet or cold days. Today was a wet day but couldn't find the time

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B-eggs and low sodium bacon, coffee with coconut cream
S-About 2 T. trail mix-equal parts (1/4 cup each) pecans, walnuts, mini chocolate chips *dairy-free*, chopped dates, dried blue berries (1/8 cup) and a tablespoon or two of shredded unsweetened coconut. This is really good and will limit to 2 T. a day mixed with yogurt
L-blueberry smoothie with flax, coconut milk
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D-pork stew with cauliflower, mushrooms, tomatoes...slow simmered.
Dessert-2-3 squares 70 something % chocolate

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The gym is my thing. I love exercising and has probably been the only thing saving me from piling on the pounds through all this thyroid crap.

I hate cardio but have always loved walking so I really take to heart what Mark has to say in that area

I had to resort to a can of pinto beans for dinner tonight. Instant grumbly tummy for me
Like I said we're pretty damn poor right now. It was a long time in between paychecks this time. *sigh*

But in a week or so we get to pay down a lot of debt with our tax return!
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Hi guys, a quick stop by to post this....popped up on Facebook. Two comments:
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Dean Orninsh looks a bit like a troll .....large head, long, misshapen limbs .....hmmmmmm
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Uh, well...yeah. Your point????
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Uh, well...yeah. Your point????
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but lots of resistance in the mainstream. Hope this opens eyes. A guy commented on FAcebook that to have a true comparison, Ornish needs to go shirtless, too. Yuck!
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I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but lots of resistance in the mainstream. Hope this opens eyes. A guy commented on FAcebook that to have a true comparison, Ornish needs to go shirtless, too. Yuck!
Double YUCK! Thank goodness we know that will never happen..eye bleach. I predict before this year is out, Paleo, Primal and Mark Sisson will be all over the place. The movement is growing by leaps and bounds

Had a good walk/jog *no run, still wet* for 55 minutes and over 3 miles. Ate out for lunch with friends but terribly lucky to go to new place that doesn't know it's Primal yet-see below.

B-1/2 cup Greek God yogurt with 2 T. trail mix
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D-Grilled chicken thighs *marinated in yogurt, shiracha (? spelling) sauce, olive oil and lemon* wilted greens from my garden, marinated avocado and tomato salad

Wow! I'm just starvin' to death on this diet........
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Double YUCK! Thank goodness we know that will never happen..eye bleach. I predict before this year is out, Paleo, Primal and Mark Sisson will be all over the place. The movement is growing by leaps and bounds

Had a good walk/jog *no run, still wet* for 55 minutes and over 3 miles. Ate out for lunch with friends but terribly lucky to go to new place that doesn't know it's Primal yet-see below.

B-1/2 cup Greek God yogurt with 2 T. trail mix
S-2 squares 77% chocolate
L-Harvest Salad-turkey, dried cranberries, pecans with mixed greens and balsamic vinaigrette (used less than 1 T. dressing..pretty tasty without it)
S-coffee with coconut milk *maybe*
D-Grilled chicken thighs *marinated in yogurt, shiracha (? spelling) sauce, olive oil and lemon* wilted greens from my garden, marinated avocado and tomato salad

Wow! I'm just starvin' to death on this diet........
"Double YUCK!"

Great job on the exercise! And it's always nice when you can eat out and have it be totally Primal. Your food for the day looks delish! Gawd... how I LOVE Sriracha! I'm a huge fan of hot and spicy - almost all of our main dishes have Sriracha, cayenne, freshly ground black pepper and/or Red Rooster in them!
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Betty- I do strength training and some cardio, but I've never felt the need for carbs to support my work outs. I think that need for carbs is for body builders (who are trying to add weight) and elite athletes who train for hours at a time.

I've never felt at all 'depleted' from working out by remaining low carb. I focus on getting sufficient protein to insure that I don't lose the muscle that I'm trying to strengthen.
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Great job on the exercise! And it's always nice when you can eat out and have it be totally Primal. Your food for the day looks delish! Gawd... how I LOVE Sriracha! I'm a huge fan of hot and spicy - almost all of our main dishes have Sriracha, cayenne, freshly ground black pepper and/or Red Rooster in them!
Here is the marinade I used for the chicken:
Low carb, GF (gluten-free) and primal. The...

I let it sit 6 hours in fridge and then put on my griddler (stove/oven is broken) and it was GREAT...not too spicy. Chicken so tender. Love that rooster too.

Leo41-Betty- I do strength training and some cardio, but I've never felt the need for carbs to support my work outs. I think that need for carbs is for body builders (who are trying to add weight) and elite athletes who train for hours at a time.

I've always kind of puzzled about that too. I'm just a jogger but a few years ago I did a half marathon (my first) and trained a few months before rather lightly and then did the 1/2 M and most days, as well as race day, never went over (or felt like going over) 30 or 40 carbs. Pasta time? NEVER. So I gotta go with Leo on that one.

Confession time: I did take a banana at the end of one of my races. Even thought about eating it (pre-Primal)

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My favorite comment was: "I'd lick the coconut oil off his abs." Definitely gave me a chuckle.
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Good news, bad news day.
Good news-Scored some fresh gorgeous home grown strawberries at our local truck farm. Came home and made a yogurt/strawberry shake. Yum.
Bad news-The stove is broken and I can't get it fixed till next week. But worse than that, I am the dessert person for our dinner group tonite. Everyone asked for my famous tiramisu recipe. Well, I said yes before thinking and now they are all looking forward to it. I should have said "It's a surprise" and made something paleo/primal. They would have been none the wiser. Now I am straddled with a dessert I can't eat. I did make it as low sugar as possible. But could not find a satisfactory way around the lady finger/biscotti/amaretti ingredient. Ended up with very airy lady fingers, s/f caramel, s/f pudding, s/f Cool Whip (I know, I know...but it helps it set up in the fridge and only used half of what I have in the past), dulce le leche, sea salt, cocoa, cinnamon. And adding crispy bacon to top. At any given time in my life, I would say the heck with it...gimme a bowl. Now I dread eating a bite, if I do at all. A lesson hard-learned.

On the bright side the dinner will be prime rib and salad Now that I can eat. Had a blueberry/banana shake for breakfast. And lunch is small bowl leftover pork stew. The dessert is the skunk at my picnic.
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Speck-I know, I know. Just mad at myself for not thinking it through. But the thought of that dessert does make me ill

Oh well, beating up on myself is over as of right NOW.
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Betty- I do strength training and some cardio, but I've never felt the need for carbs to support my work outs. I think that need for carbs is for body builders (who are trying to add weight) and elite athletes who train for hours at a time.

I've never felt at all 'depleted' from working out by remaining low carb. I focus on getting sufficient protein to insure that I don't lose the muscle that I'm trying to strengthen.
I totally agree with this. I've only been exercising religiously for the past month, but I'm fine doing cardio and strength training without extra carbs. I did Atkins in the past and worked out for over an hour a day while remaining VLC - no issues.
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