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Old 10-26-2013, 09:31 PM   #151
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I dont miss the biscuit bit, but I do miss the chocolately creamy yumminess. Hmm, I just made some cheesecakes, maybe I should make a chocolate version next time.... Currently I flavour them with a packet of weightwatchers jelly, maybe a WW instant pudding?
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Old 10-26-2013, 09:33 PM   #152
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Thanx Terri

I dont know what it is, there's apparently a tummy bug doing the rounds locally, but Im a bit suspicious about mine since its unproductive and followed a run of takeaway meals. Meh, I'll get better, Im already feeling a zillion time better today.
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I haven't tried this one yet but it sounds worth a try. My cocoa ones were just okay. I copied this from a post a while ago.

I re-created the chocolate cream cheese muffin recipe I posted (I think it’s on page 1 here) but made a few variations and I have to say I think they were the best yet! I took 2 8 oz packages of cream cheese and melted them on the stovetop; after slightly cooling, I added 1 egg, cocoa powder, and splenda (probably 1/4 cup of each, I didn't measure and just dumped it in, adjust to suit your tastes) - and the magic ingredient - sugar free cappuccino mix! They are seriously delicious! I sprayed a regular muffin tin (with 12 slots) and put equal amounts in each, I think I baked for 12 minutes. They were slightly moist yet and difficult to maneuver out of the pan but once they were cooled and chilled they set nicely.
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And here's another one:

Most amazing chocolate fudge cheesecake
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I found this recipe online, and I must say, it is probably in the top 10 of most delicious things I have ever put into my mouth. It's sweetened with Xylitol...I'm sure you could sub other sweeteners if that doesn't agree with you. This is truly amazing....had to share. Sorry for the measurements in grams....that's how it is on the site..I just used a scale to figure it out.

Crust:
150g Almond meal
50g or around 1/3 cup Desiccated/finely shredded coconut
60g butter, melted
1/4 cup of Xyltiol or equivalent sweetener
dash of vanilla

Combine base ingredients and press into the base of the dish, place into oven and reduce temperature to 140C/284F and bake for 15 mins or until golden.

Remove and allow to cool.

Filling:
2 Tablespoons butter
1/2 cup cream
4oz or 125g cream cheese (full fat)
4 Tablespoons Xylitol or equivalent sweetener
2 Tablespoons cocoa powder (you can go up to 3Tablespoons of cocoa to make it more chocolaty)
1/2 teaspoon vanilla

In a small saucepan, over low heat, melt butter. Add cream and cream cheese, and whisk until smooth.

Add Xylitol, and adjust too taste. (Add a little more if you need too). Heat until bubbling, stirring constantly.

Reduce heat, and stir in cocoa (again you can adjust too taste) Leave in saucepan and set aside to cool.

Once both the base and the fudge have cooled add the fudge to the base and spread evenly.

The Topping

1 Cup of cream you could also add flavourings to the cream, like strawberry to make a little different.
1/2 teaspoon of vanilla
1-2 teaspoons of xylitol
2-3 squares of Lindt 70% or even better Lindt 85% chocolate melted

In a bowl add the cream and vanilla and begin whipping, add the xylitol and check for sweetness and adjust (you want the cream to be just slightly sweet to taste). Whip until thick and then spread over the fudge.

Melt the chocolate and drizzle over the cream.

Refrigerate for 1 hour minimum (2 hours preferably), cut into 8 slices and serve.


Source: Pic is mine....recipe is found on nzlowcarber.weebly.com
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sounds nice - I wonder where I could source some zylitol from.

I normally just make the mini cheesecakes in a silicon muffin pan. That was theres a chance I will get to eat some. If I make a whole cheesecake the family demolish it before I get near it
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sounds nice - I wonder where I could source some zylitol from.

I normally just make the mini cheesecakes in a silicon muffin pan. That was theres a chance I will get to eat some. If I make a whole cheesecake the family demolish it before I get near it
I got it from Nutrition. Do they ship there?

I do muffins too. I'm a grap & go girl
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I came here tonight looking for some help. My appetite is kicking up again. I read about the ME and think that may help get it under control. The only thing I'm concerned about is eating too much fat because if I'm not careful I end up having problems with my gall bladder.

I wondered if you have problems with constipation (sorry!) when you eat just ME and no veggies?

Once your appetite is under control then I wondered how you add food back in? \

Thank you in advance!
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Welcome Grammy

M&E isnt a set programme or system as such. Theres a few sort of 'rules' but really we all just tailor it to our own requirements. Because it is very high in protein, you do need to add in fat in one form or another to reduce the risk of protein starvation, also called rabbit sickness. It also helps with giving some variations to the large amount of eggs that are a part of it. I dont know how that would impact on a gall bladder sorry.

I personally have no constipation issues on M&E - the fat works well as a softener and lubricant, and the very large amount of water prevents constipation as well. What I do notice is a reduction in volumme. I assume its because there just is less waste due to the nutrient density of the food supply.

I dont use it for appitite control, but it is a good side effect Apparently the fat fast does the same thing. Adding food back in is usually up to the individual. Some people do M&E for weeks, some for a few days. I can only say that for me, I usually do M&E for 3-5 days, then 2-3 atkins 72 induction, then primal until I feel like another round of M&E. Sometimes I go back to M&E simply out of laziness - Its a very easy WOE and doesnt require much prep or though

Someone came up with some guidelines for M&E. Pick out what you think might work for you in particular, and dont get too hung up on the rest. Well, except the water thing. very important

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* You NEED fat. Don't avoid it or you will give yourself protein poisoning. Most of us use coconut oil (usually in BPC, cooking or "fat bombs"), HWC and some of us eat butter, olive and avocado oil.

* Drink tonnes of water. If you think you've drunk enough, you probably haven't, drink some more!!

* Try to avoid too much salt (either in the meat or on top of your meal) as it can cause a bit of water retention and make you feel bloated with all of the water you are drinking.

* Keep it simple for the first few days and see how you go, then you can try to add in a few extra things like cheese, avocado or a few nuts if you'd like.

* You can stay on it from anywhere between a day and a few months if you feel like doing so. You can cycle a couple of days on and a couple of days off. It's very flexible and up to you.

* You might want to consider a couple of supplements ie. multivitamin, magnesium etc.
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Welcome Grammy

M&E isnt a set programme or system as such. Theres a few sort of 'rules' but really we all just tailor it to our own requirements. Because it is very high in protein, you do need to add in fat in one form or another to reduce the risk of protein starvation, also called rabbit sickness. It also helps with giving some variations to the large amount of eggs that are a part of it. I dont know how that would impact on a gall bladder sorry.

I personally have no constipation issues on M&E - the fat works well as a softener and lubricant, and the very large amount of water prevents constipation as well. What I do notice is a reduction in volumme. I assume its because there just is less waste due to the nutrient density of the food supply.

I dont use it for appitite control, but it is a good side effect Apparently the fat fast does the same thing. Adding food back in is usually up to the individual. Some people do M&E for weeks, some for a few days. I can only say that for me, I usually do M&E for 3-5 days, then 2-3 atkins 72 induction, then primal until I feel like another round of M&E. Sometimes I go back to M&E simply out of laziness - Its a very easy WOE and doesnt require much prep or though

Someone came up with some guidelines for M&E. Pick out what you think might work for you in particular, and dont get too hung up on the rest. Well, except the water thing. very important
Hey, that 'someone' was me They were just some things that I make sure I follow when I do it...but as Lil said, there are no hard and fast rules and YMMV depending on your body.

As far as adding normal foods back in... there is no real process because you can do M&E for just one day at a time if you like and then return to your previous WOE... some people like to slowly add foods back in but it's totally up to you.

Welcome BTW....nice to have you here

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Ahh, I missed whom it was, clever wee Tashy

The salt thing is a ymmv for me, I have no salt concerns.
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The salt thing is a ymmv for me, I have no salt concerns.
What does YMMV mean? LOL
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Hi Skittles...:

YMMV- Your mileage may vary
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LOLing @ lilbeetle- sugar and wheat products make me swell also! LOL. I think I am VERY carb sensitive. It's amazing how easily I gain weight when I eat anything with sugar or simple carbs.
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The salt thing is a ymmv for me, I have no salt concerns.
Hahahaha, not clever...just succinct
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tashydoll- Thank you! I love your avi! Pinups are great!
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Thank you, me too...I saw it and thought "now THAT is a woman!"
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Im at the stage were weight isn't my biggest concern anymore, mainly health factors. Im not going to urn down a pound or two loss when they happen tho
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Today will be a first full day of M&E. Here's the plan...

B: coffee with sweet n low, and tbls CO
L: 2-3 small sausage patties with 1 fried egg in kerrygold butter.
D: hb patty with fried egg on top, iced unsweetened tea

Trying to make sure I hit at least 100 oz of water today. And no alcohol. No cheese, no diet soda. I'm going to miss the cheese but it's only for a few days.

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Thanks Skittles and That was when I was at goal, hoping to get back there for the holidays.

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B: coffee with sweet n low, and tbls CO
L: 2-3 small sausage patties with 1 fried egg in kerrygold butter.
D: hb patty with fried egg on top, iced unsweetened tea

Trying to make sure I hit at least 100 oz of water today. And no alcohol. No cheese, no diet soda. I'm going to miss the cheese but it's only for a few days.

Sounds good Susan. Great luck!

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Today will be a first full day of M&E. Here's the plan...

B: coffee with sweet n low, and tbls CO
L: 2-3 small sausage patties with 1 fried egg in kerrygold butter.
D: hb patty with fried egg on top, iced unsweetened tea

Trying to make sure I hit at least 100 oz of water today. And no alcohol. No cheese, no diet soda. I'm going to miss the cheese but it's only for a few days.

Hope everyone has a great day!
Hi Susan ...menu looks good. Be sure to check back in and let us know how you are going
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Grammy G and Skittles!

Susan, the menu sounds great--hoping it works out well for you.

Terri, Natasha, and Lil. Also our other M&E friends who are lurking.

Terri, the recipe sounds good. Do you know what the carb count is offhand?
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Thanks y'all, I did really well today. Got a lot accomplished here at home, got most my water in, although my menu changed by dinner to baked wings with a tad of franks wing sauce. And I did have a very petite dill pickle just now.

Will keep checking in!
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Susan, the menu sounds great--hoping it works out well for you.

Terri, Natasha, and Lil. Also our other M&E friends who are lurking.

Terri, the recipe sounds good. Do you know what the carb count is offhand?
Sorry it wasn't listed. If I get up the gumption to make it, which might be this week, I'll update.
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Day 3 of M&E, no movement on my evil scales though, going to keep at it though til it does.

Firmly in ketosis however, I know from the energy level and the taste in my mouth. So it's gotta kick in sometime and show up on the scales as long as I keep at it.

Today's plan is unknown as I need to dig in my freezer and see what meat magic happens tonight lol

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Good job sticking with it, Susan!

Today was/is day 8 for me, and continuing on. I'm going to throw in a fat fast 1 day this week just to switch it up a bit.
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Morning! Well something's working, scales said 202.2 this morning!

Breakfast was 2 sausage patties and 1 fried egg plus my usual coffee with hwc and a tbsp CO

Went running errands and we went to a local BBQ place, I ordered 3/4 brisket and ate about half of it with tiny bites of dill pickle. Brought the rest home and ate it last night, I had a forkful of kerrygold butter.

So I am going to continue until I see another loss
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Today was/is day 8 for me, and continuing on. I'm going to throw in a fat fast 1 day this week just to switch it up a bit.
If it's not too nosey, what was your starting weight 8 days ago?
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Hi everyone! Hope you don't mind me jumping in to try meat and eggs for a while. Winter clothes are feeling a bit snug around the middle Meat and eggs is the best bloat remover there is!

Acor what does your FF day look like? I might try a little of that as well
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If it's not too nosey, what was your starting weight 8 days ago?
Not too nosy at all! On 10/19, I was 131 and this past Saturday (after 5 days on M/E), I was 128.6. I usually lose a matter of ounces each week, so this was a pretty big loss for me.

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Hi everyone! Hope you don't mind me jumping in to try meat and eggs for a while. Winter clothes are feeling a bit snug around the middle Meat and eggs is the best bloat remover there is!

Acor what does your FF day look like? I might try a little of that as well
I was just planning this out today, going to try it tomorrow or Thursday. I'm planning for 5 "meals", but allowing myself 1 or maybe 2 more if it's absolutely needed. I'll have the 6 items below ready to go so that I can easily pick whichever appeals to me when I get hungry. The choco loco and the pumpkin shake are the highest in calories (around 300), so I'm limiting myself to just one of either one, not both, on the same day. The pumpkin is also highest in protein (7 grams), so that's the one I'm going to try to resist.

I found all of the recipes on LCF. The main modifications I've made to them is to lower the amount of sweetener, use almond exact instead of vanilla extract, and use pecan butter instead of peanut butter.

If you want nutritional info for any of these, just let me know.

1. Chocolate Almond Cheesecake Muffins

8oz cream cheese.
1 egg
2 tbs Ghiradelli cocoa powder
1 tsp almond extract
¼ cup "Zero" sweetener

Preheat oven to 350. While it's warming up, mix all ingredients together with a blender. After blended, use cupcake pan and cupcake paper cups, and divide into 8 equal portions.

Cook for 15 mins on 350. Do NOT overcook! Remove from oven and let cool.

2. Pecan Pudding

⅓ cup (plus a little more) sour cream
⅓ cup (plus a little more) Artisana pecan butter
2 tablespoons "Zero" sweetener

Blend all ingredients in a small cereal bowl. Portion into 3 ramekins.

3. Creamy Mushrooms

16 ounces sliced mushrooms (2 packages)
5 tablespoons butter
4 tablespoons Boursin cheese

Over medium heat, sauté the mushrooms in the butter until they soften, then turn off the heat, add the Boursin, and stir until it melts. Makes 4 servings.

4. Loco Choco pudding

1 large box of sugar free pudding
2 tablespoons of "Zero" sweetener
2 and 1/2 cups cream
1 cup half and half

Blend with mixer until you get almost butter. Makes 8 servings.

5. Pecan Butter Cream Cheese

3 ounce cream cheese
3 tablespoons Artisana raw pecan butter
3 tablespoons heavy whipping cream
1/8 teaspoon ground cinnamon
2 tablespoons "Zero" sweetener

Blend all ingredients in a small cereal bowl. Portion into 3 ramekins.

6. Pumpkin Shake/Smoothy

1/3 Cup Pumpkin
1/4 Cup Heavy Cream
1 egg
1/2 splenda packet
1/4 Teaspoon Pumpkin Pie Spice
1/4 Cup Water

Blend together. Pumpkin and cream can be slightly frozen first if you want to make it more of a shake.

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