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Old 01-23-2013, 05:34 PM   #31
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:47 PM   #32
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I figured my TDEE out again, but used a different calculator that's more in depth. It breaks down the minutes of your day, (how much you sleep etc etc), and I got a higher number, at 1953. I like that one better The other calculator gave me a TDEE of 1,710
I used one that breaks down the minutes of the day too. I put 30 minutes of moderate activity because I do an hour every other day (or so).
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:16 PM   #33
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Dawn, Since you have so much experience with UD cals, I bet you can re-adjust as you go. I love that you have a new plan and can't wait to hear how it goes.
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I'm scared to start this Monday I don't know what my 5 normal day calories should be. And I really love how I feel on DDs.

I think I'm just going to start this now and get it over with lol. I had 1 DD already this week, yesterday, and I'll do another DD either tomorrow or a day this weekend.
Does it have to be the same DDs every week or can you switch them up, as long as they aren't back to back?
Just checked a TDEE calculator and it said 1758 for light exercise and 1535 for none. I will be exercising some, so I guess 1700 I'll try first.
Ok, I'm in!
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Hi everyone, I'm in for a test run.... love seeing so many of JBs here already.

Okay, I'm stupid, what is TDEE?

I will aim for Mon/Thurs but swap if it suits me.
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I wish it were possible to lose on this diet, but it seems like more of a maintenance plan. Basically it sounds exactly like JUDDD just minus 1-2 days a week of fasting, so it just seems like common sense that you wouldn't lose as much/fast, right? As slow as I am losing, this plan might be a disaster for me!

It sounds absolutely lovely for maintenance, however. I would LOVE to see people losing too. Then I would have to try it!
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TDEE is your Total Daily Energy Expenditure. There are formulas to figure this out based on your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) and the amount of activity you do.

On a "regular" diet, you'd find your TDEE and reduce it by a percentage (ex. 20%) daily to lose, and eat at your TDEE to maintain.
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Hi everyone, I'm in for a test run.... love seeing so many of JBs here already.

Okay, I'm stupid, what is TDEE?

I will aim for Mon/Thurs but swap if it suits me.
Cindy, google Scooby's Workshop Calorie calculator.
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Yes, Cindy, the whole key is to eat regular on the 5 days, then the fasting day (500) re-vamps the metabolism. You are going full speed along and then down you go. I suspect that if you get the right cals in on regular days without going up up and away, that it could be even better.
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I had absolutely no appetite today for some reason and came in below my 500 calorie fasting amount, with 394 calories for the day. I wonder if the two UDs in a row followed by one DD has anything to do with this I'm sooo curious to see what my weight in is going to be tomorrow!
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Doing my 2nd DD of the week tomorrow, I had no hunger and just ate to eat today to get the calories in, I guess my body is just used to JUDDD rotations, this should have been a DD and it wasn't expecting me to eat. I felt guilty all day about eating, LOL like I was cheating.
Interesting with the calories today sara. Wonder if I'll have the same tomorrow?!

So glad others are joining in for a test run in maintenance! Can't wait to see everyone's results! Makes me excited
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Ok, seriously-how is this possible?!

Today's weigh in-142.5, for a loss of 1.5lbs and a new low for me

Looking back at the week, I did have a DD last Friday, before starting my experiment on Saturday-so I actually did get in 3 DDs in the past 7 days:

Last Fri DD (600 calories) 146lbs
Sat-UD 144lbs
Sun-UD
Mon-DD (470c)
Tue-UD 144lbs
Wed-UD
Thur-DD (394c)
Friday-UD (today) 142.5lbs

Now the next 7 days will only have the two DDs-
Today-UD
Sat-UD
Sun-UD
Mon-DD
Tue-UD
Wed-UD
Thur-DD
Fri-UD (last day of my experiment and last weigh in)

So I wonder if I'll bounce back up by next Friday

I also tweaked how I've been doing my DDs for this week (M/TH)-I've skipped breakfast and have eaten my calories in a 5 hour window. This has put me in a longer fasting mode for a couple of days. I wonder if that's a factor

With the 5:2 plan I expected to either gain, or maintain. I never thought I'd actually lose weight on it!

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Old 01-25-2013, 05:33 AM   #45
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I have been thinking about this and my guess is that I don't have to eat up to my UD if I don't want to. There will be plenty of days when I do and even go over, I know myself well. But the freedom to eat 'lightly' without it having to be a DD appeals.

I was 125.2 this morning after a DD that was totally unsuitable but nice and low calorie.

Sara sounds like a good start. I love a new 'challenge' it keeps me on my toes.
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I was talking to my dh this morning about my experiment and how I was a bit nervous about having three UDs in a row (today-Sun). He suggested still doing rotations like JUDDD, but do two UDs followed by a DD, and then repeat. I wonder how this would work out? My only problem would be Sundays, because we always eat at my in-laws for a big steak dinner. Doing this on a DD is miserable. But, I'll have to chart it out and see how many DDs would fall on Sundays, if I still did this kind of rotation I may try this after next week. I want to give the 5:2 plan a two week window, to see what happens.

So much to think about!

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See how these first couple of weeks go. No need to eat big UDs as I said above. Just kind of free eating...
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Very nice surprise weigh in sara!
I'm up about a pound with 2 UD in a row, that was expected. I have been eating 1650-1700 cals last 2 days.
I like what Cindy said, that we probably don't have to eat up to our calories on UD, I think I'm going to drop mine back down to the JUDDD UD calories of 1550 or so for the rest of the testing, if I go a little over, ok, under, ok too. I want to find those magic numbers that let me stay the same and I think 1700 is too high for me, I've never lost weight easily in my life, until JUDDD.
I agree, so much to think about!
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Wednesday was a high DD but nowhere near UD calories. I had an UD yesterday but today's another DD since we'll be out of town this weekend. It feels really weird to know I'm going into 2-3 UDs in a row.

I'm trying to decide if I should keep weighing daily or only after DDs. I won't have my scale Sunday so that day won't be recorded. This is exciting but scary!
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Wednesday was a high DD but nowhere near UD calories. I had an UD yesterday but today's another DD since we'll be out of town this weekend. It feels really weird to know I'm going into 2-3 UDs in a row.

I'm trying to decide if I should keep weighing daily or only after DDs. I won't have my scale Sunday so that day won't be recorded. This is exciting but scary!
I've decided to only weigh myself after my DDs I did sneak a peak at the scale yesterday, but I'm trying really hard not to obsess about that darn scale!

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Ended up having an insane calorie day yesterday-like over 4,000 calories (darn applebees ) feeling really icky this morning so i'm going to throw in an extra fasting day today, to offset the damage i did. Will get back on the 5:2 plan tomorrow!
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Oh, Applebees and I are not friends LOL good plan for an extra DD. That's the greatness I find in the IF plans, you can do damage control right away!
I weighed in today at my lowest ever 119.2. Heading into a stretch of UDs, though. I will say this experiment is a success if I can get my weight to remain at 119/120 after a DD weigh-in. So another few weeks should tell me that for sure.
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Oh, Applebees and I are not friends LOL good plan for an extra DD. That's the greatness I find in the IF plans, you can do damage control right away!
I weighed in today at my lowest ever 119.2. Heading into a stretch of UDs, though. I will say this experiment is a success if I can get my weight to remain at 119/120 after a DD weigh-in. So another few weeks should tell me that for sure.
Yeah, the day started out bad when I ate over 500 calories in honey mustard pretzels I now know I can't have those in the house lol. Then I had a 500ish calorie breakfast burrito, then some more pretzels. Then at the hockey game we went to last night I split a regular Pepsi with my dh and we also split a waffle fry. So before we even got to Applebees I was at close to 2,000 calories. And then we split an order of mozzarella sticks and I got the three cheese penne Alfredo, which was huge Hmmm, I probably went way over 4,000 calories-gah!

One thing I did learn was that my stomach has really shrunk-halfway through the penne I was really starting to feel overfull, but of course I didn't want to waste money so I ate all of it I can't believe how awful I felt afterward and still this morning. Lesson learned!

Congrats on the new low

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I'm stalking your thread too.

I can't decide what I want to do for maintenance or when I really want to start maintaning for that matter. But 5:2 is on the table. I'm also throwing around raising DD calories or keeping DD low and raising UD calories. There are too many options and I'm scared to try any of them.
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I'm stalking your thread too.

I can't decide what I want to do for maintenance or when I really want to start maintaning for that matter. But 5:2 is on the table. I'm also throwing around raising DD calories or keeping DD low and raising UD calories. There are too many options and I'm scared to try any of them.
I know what you mean-transitioning into maintenance is very overwhelming But, I think we're doing the smart thing and thinking about it now, before we hit our goal weights. I think sooo many people get to goal, then think they're done, let old habits slip back in, and then several months later they're right back where they're started (browsing this website you see it happen over and over again ).
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So, is 5:2 not as good for weight loss? Is it more for maintaining?

After coming across this thread I was thinking of trying this to lose 35-40 lbs. I've done JUDDD in the past but can't get myself to stick to the rotations for some reason now. Eating 500 calories or less every other day just feels really restrictive to me now (I'm not sure why my mind changed to that thinking. It wasn't like that the first time I did JUDDD).

Only doing 2 DD's a week doesn't seem as restrictive. Maybe this plan wouldn't work for losing all the weight but since I've been eating so crappy since before the holidays and every day has been an UD, doing 2 DD's would be better than none I would think.

I recently re-read Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin book and really like the idea of that approach. That is how I really want to eat some day. I'm thinking of using that on the regular days (following the 4 golden rules to keep from overeating) and then mixing in the 2 DD's to help with the weight loss.

I may start tomorrow and have my 2 days be Monday and Thursday. I usually don't have a problem eating less on Mondays after the weekend and then Thursday would be another good break after a couple of regular days.

I think I'm going to try this! I can't seem to stick to anything else right now anyway. I don't think I'll end up gaining just because I would definitely be eating less than usual. I may not lose as fast as I would like but just seeing the scale go in the right direction would make me feel better about things at the moment.
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I would think it would help, jiggles. It may be slower loss than full JUDDD but you would also get the benefits of fasting in there. Then you may find once you are used to the 2 DD that full rotations would be easier for you to do if you decided to go back to JUDDD. Welcome to the experiment!
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Well I'm updating with my 6:1 maintenance experiment. I've been maintaining quite easily over the past month with the 5:2 plan--I actually lost two more pounds which I was not intending or expecting. (Not complaining--I was just surprised). Anyways since I was 108, I figured I had quite a bit of leeway to try the 6:1 since my boundary is 112. Not proud of the fact that lately I've been eating VERY poorly. No veggies, but mostly white rice, pasta, cake, pies, cookies, donuts, etc. I've been under a lot of stress lately which is why I think Im craving all those carbs. Despite that, I only went up to 110 after 6 days of eating around 2000 cals a day.

Yesterday was my DD and surprisingly, I was SO ready for it! Even though the scale had only gone up 2lbs, I still felt heavy, bloated, and low energy. I think a lot of that had to be from the carb-age I ate, but the other was from the long stretch with no down days to break it up. I was never so eager to have a DD! Lol I barely had an appetite yesterday so I mostly had liquid cals of around 450. It felt refreshing and cleansing to say the least. Got on the scale this morning and I was back to 108! Couldn't believe it--it was a success!

That said, as excited as you think I'd be (and I am), I'm thinking I will go back to 5:2. I actually missed my DD break up and I personally think 6 days in a row of up eating is too much--I just didn't feel as good. 5:2 feels great for me though so I plan to go back to that. Nice to know that if life gets in the way, I can derail for a bit and get back to where I was within one or two DD's. I'm learning a lot about what works and what doesn't and know now that in addition to DD's, my body is also yearning for some healthier food. That's what I will be focusing on next.

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I would think it would help, jiggles. It may be slower loss than full JUDDD but you would also get the benefits of fasting in there. Then you may find once you are used to the 2 DD that full rotations would be easier for you to do if you decided to go back to JUDDD. Welcome to the experiment!
Thank for the welcome! I think this will be a nice start to getting back on the weight loss track. And 2 DD don't sound at all scary to me like every other day ones do.

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Yesterday was my DD and surprisingly, I was SO ready for it! Even though the scale had only gone up 2lbs, I still felt heavy, bloated, and low energy. I think a lot of that had to be from the carb-age I ate, but the other was from the long stretch with no down days to break it up. I was never so eager to have a DD! Lol I barely had an appetite yesterday so I mostly had liquid cals of around 450. It felt refreshing and cleansing to say the least. Got on the scale this morning and I was back to 108! Couldn't believe it--it was a success!
This is how I sometimes feel after a few days of eating. I'm just ready for a really light day. But doing it every other day, like with JUDDD, is just too overwhelming right now. But I think my mind can handle 2 days a week for now.

Way to go with finding something that works for you!
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