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Old 02-21-2013, 03:06 PM   #181
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I am holding tight at 221 for the last few days which is encouraging. Just finished my TOM and I am usually up for a week, then dry for a week. Hoping to continue the "dry" trend and not keep gaining/losing same pound.

Changes I have done this week:

No more iced decaf americanos with cream. I really think the half and half was triggering inuslin and not allowing me to lose. I was maintaining but I am in this to lose and after 7 weeks of stalling I had to change something.

Second: I am also going to a strict 2 meals a day (was doing that many days anyways) and also due an Intermittent Fast type diet with my diet window being 6-8 hours.

Yesterday's Meals:

Sipped on water and peppermint tea all morning

CM lunch around 1230-
Big salad with ranch dressing
2 homemade smoked beef sausage links
1 packet gourmet mustard
3 TBSP extra virgin cold pressed organic Coconut Oil (another one of my supplements)
my ceylon cinnamon, turmeric, and ginger powder supplements

RM around 5pm-
Another large salad with mixed baby greens, spinach, 1 TBSP of parmesan, ranch dressing, green onions
8 ounces of pork roast
1 slice cheese cake (probably 1 1/2 C volume)
5 pc of marzepan
2 cordial cherries
10 choc covered gummy bears

Today's Meals:

Sipped on tea and water all day

CM lunch at 1pm-
4 celery stalks with 4 TBSP of cream cheese
4 green onion sticks with ranch
6 ounces of diced pork roast wrapped in lettuce wraps with 2 TBSP garlic sauce
3 TBSP extra virgin cold pressed organic Coconut Oil (another one of my supplements)
my ceylon cinnamon, turmeric, and ginger powder supplements


RM- should be around 5 or 6pm. Will probably be the same as last night's for the most part. May have sauteed cabbage instead of salad.

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Old 02-21-2013, 03:29 PM   #182
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MIW, welcome. I think it makes sense to do CAD in a window!

So far today, I've had string cheese, pistachios, and greek yogurt. I ran out of apples and blueberries...I need to go to the store for more fruit!

Dinner tonight is one of my favorites....gluten free grilled ham and cheese sandwich, salt and vinegar potato chips, and a couple of dark chocolate truffles for desert.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:35 AM   #183
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I didn't weigh in this week yet but I'm in my old smaller size jeans this morning!

What's nice is that you can incorporate any diet within an eating window. There isn't any hard and fast rules on what you eat, just "when" you eat. Individuals know what foods work best for them and it can be customized.

How's everyone doing today? This thread needs a little caffeine
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:57 AM   #184
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Rachel: I decided yesterday that pushing back my window is exactly what I'm going to start doing. Your dinner for tonight sounds amazing! I think I'm going to try my hand at some LC bread this weekend so that I can have a sandwich.


Route66: It's not that I'm worried about doing something 'unsanctioned' because I'm pretty much doing my own thing right now anyway. I'm just terrified of being 'hungry' because that is what has always derailed me from previous diets. I was starving on Low Cal/Low Fat for years and I hated it. I feel like I need to transition slowly from my afternoon 'meal' to more of a snack. I'm just afraid to come to work without my security blanket bag of food because what if I get hungry?!?

MIW I'm still looking into CAD - I'm not sure how I feel about having a RM every day. I really just want to incorporate those kind of carbs occasionally rather than consistently. Also, the plate division thing kind of makes me anxious. But I'm continuing to read about it and I'm going to see if I can get the book from the library.

Yesterday I waited until 3pm (my stomach was growling quite loudly by that point) and I had 1/2 an avocado and 1oz of almonds. I ate them both slowly, paid attention to the texture and taste of both, chewed thoroughly and drank plenty of water. By the time I was through with those, I was comfortably satisfied. I had also brought tuna salad and caprese salad - but I decided to just wait and see if I 'needed it.' I was still comfortable by the time I left to go home. We ate dinner around 8pm and I was done for the day.

Today is my early day - I leave work at 12pm, so no reason to pack a lunch today. I have some shopping to do so I have a pack of almonds in my purse in case I need them. Dinner tonight is going to be breakfast, I think.

Blue Topaz: Congratulations on the smaller sized jeans! That's awesome!!! Smaller clothes are always better than a smaller number on the scale.
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Yesterday I waited until 3pm (my stomach was growling quite loudly by that point) and I had 1/2 an avocado and 1oz of almonds. I ate them both slowly, paid attention to the texture and taste of both, chewed thoroughly and drank plenty of water. By the time I was through with those, I was comfortably satisfied. I had also brought tuna salad and caprese salad - but I decided to just wait and see if I 'needed it.' I was still comfortable by the time I left to go home. We ate dinner around 8pm and I was done for the day.


now that's what I'm talking about! Even if you can't get to this point every day, it's the right start to being mindful about hunger and executing ways around "hunger isn't an emergency". that has been one of my biggest struggles and being prepared with the bag of food just made me want to eat the whole bag before I went home from work..."just in case", rather than waiting to see if I truly am hungry. WTG!
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now that's what I'm talking about! Even if you can't get to this point every day, it's the right start to being mindful about hunger and executing ways around "hunger isn't an emergency". that has been one of my biggest struggles and being prepared with the bag of food just made me want to eat the whole bag before I went home from work..."just in case", rather than waiting to see if I truly am hungry. WTG!
Yes! That's it exactly! I was eating everything I brought to guard AGAINST hunger rather than as a response to hunger. Now I just need to make sure that I really understand what hunger feels like. Like - right now I feel like I'm hungry... but is it hunger or is it that fact that everyoune around me is eating??? I'm going to have some water and then see how I feel.
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Britt, great insights! I think you are doing great. I think it is important to have food with you so that you know you will never have to go hungry. I keep a drawer full of nuts, peanut butter, salmon packets, and so on at my desk at work. I'm not tempted to eat them just to eat them, but for some reason, knowing that I have food available in case I need it makes me feel better. I need to always have a pack of almonds in my purse, too.

I actually started this year off with CAD. I stopped because the CM's were not appealing to me and were not easy to take to work. However, I did carry over the idea of the Reward Meal to IF...just a plate of what sounds good, plus a small desert. And, what I eat during the day is low glycemic, which keeps my blood sugar balanced...pistachios plus string cheese, apple plus peanut butter, berries plus plain greek yogurt (loaded with protein and good fat.)

CAD gave me some good insights, even though it's not what I ultimately choose to do for life.

BlueTopaz, yes, it's the perfect "diet" for me! How are you eating in your window?

Got up and exercised this morning. I love it that it's become part of my day to do it. Never thought I'd be excited about getting up and working out before work.

I don't post as much on the weekends, so I'll wish you all a great IF weekend!
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:54 PM   #188
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I am totally loving the "tweaks" I have done with my WOE on the CAD and also combing it with IF.

I am totally way less hungry now (is that even possible?) by cutting out the coffee with cream, and eating in about 6-8 hours. It is amazing that eating less frequently really does curb being hungry. I am NOT however cheating and just eating carbs or frequently during my eating window. 1 CM and 1 RM and that is it! Very simple to follow. The rest of the time just water or some herbal tea. Tons of energy to spare with lots of cleaning, playing with my makeup AND hair (can't remember the last time I've taken a really good amount of time to just "play." )


Oh ya, other tweak is that I made it "easier" for me at dinner. Just large salad or portion of veggies, protein, and my dessert will be my carb. Also cutting back on alchohol for now until I lose a bit more. No more trying to juggle small amounts of various carbs into one portion like mashed potatoes, rice, bread AND a dessert. Was cheating and eating way too much carbs that way.


1pm: CM-
4 celery stalks with 4 TBSP cream cheese
2 eggs
3 pc bacon

6pm: RM-
Sm sized steak
LARGE baby mixed green and baby spinach salad with ranch and sprinkles of parmesan cheese, lots of dried herbs for seasoning
1 very sm pc of french bread with butter
My Coconut oil, turmeric, ginger powder, ceylon cinnamon supplements
1 donut and sm 1 cup of ice cream.

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Old 02-22-2013, 08:08 PM   #189
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Well it's been awhile and I forgot to mention that I've lost another 1/2 inch off my biceps, waist, and thighs even though the scale doesn't want to play nice. This might be nice for the newer folks here to see how to track your weight and do daily averages. It drives me MORE crazy to not weight every day than to get on the scale since I know it all averages and it is much easier to see where you might be going wrong from week to week with adding CM's, snacks, coffee (like me), TOM, etc. It really is a tool for keeping you on plan. Please please please do some starting measurements too! When I started back up in November I read all the archives on every CAD/CALP message board I could find and there was a post from a gal recommending that. She stated that her scale did not budge an entire month but she lost an inch off her waist. That stuck with me and I am so glad as sometimes it can be frustrating to not see the scale move but your clothes fit better, rings are loser, etc and the measurements give you the "atta boy/girl" that we want.

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Monthly Weight Loss Tracker

Start Date: November 1, 2012

Age: 37
Ht: 5' 2"
Wt: 235

Starting Measurements:
Biceps: 15"
Bust: 50.5"
Waist: 47"
Hips: 54"
Thigh: 29.5"

As of December 2, 2012:
Wt: 225 (-10lbs)

Current Measurments:
Biceps: 14.5" (-0.5")
Bust: 48.5" (-2")
Waist: 43.5" (-3.5")
Hips: 51" (-3")
Thigh: 28.5" (-1")


As of December 24, 2012:
Wt: 222 (-13lbs)

Current Measurements:
Biceps: 14" (-0.5")
Other measurements remain unchanged


As of January 25, 2013
Wt: 221 (-14lbs)

Current Measurements:
Biceps: 13.5" (-0.5")
Bust: 47" (- 1 1/2")
Waist: 43" (-0.5)
Hips: 50.5" (-0.5")
Thigh: 27.5" (-1")


As of February 18, 2013
Wt: 220 (-15lbs)

Current Measurements:
Biceps: 13" (-0.5")
Bust: 47" (No change)
Waist: 42.5" (-0.5")
Hips: 50.5" (No change)
Thigh: 27" (-0.5")


Weekly Weight Loss Average Tracker:

Week 1- 235 (235)

Week 2- 231 229 (230) -5 lbs

Week 3- 228 (228) -1 lb

Week 4- 227 226 (226.5) -1.5 lbs

Week 5- 225 227 228 225 (226.25) -0.25 lbs

Week 6- 225 225 225.5 225.5 225 224 223.5 (224.79) -1.5 lbs

Week 7- 224 224 224 224 224 223 (223.83) -1 lb

Week 8- 224 225 224.5 224.5 224 224 224 (224.28) + 0.5 lb

Week 9- 222 224 225 222.5 223 222.5 223.5 (223.21) -1 lb

Week 10- 223 222.5 221.5 221 223 223 222 (222.29) -0.9 lb

Week 11- 221 223 221 221 221 224 223 (222) -0.30 lb

Week 12- 223 222 223 222 223 223 222.5 (222.64) +0.6 lb

Week 13- 222 222 220 222 222 221 221 (221.43) -1.20 lbs

Week 14- 221.5 222 223 223 221.5 222 218 (221.57) +0.14 lb

Week 15- 220 221 223 221 221 221.5 222.5 (221.43) -0.14 lb

Week 16- 224 221 X 221.5 223 223 223 (222.58) +1.15 lbs

Week 17- 220 221 221 221 221 (***)
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Hi all,

MIW: Congrats on your weight and inches loss. It sounds like this is the plan for you! Inches lost without the scale showing always made me think it's fat/water loss not enough to register into lbs but just as important if not more because then you know that your muscles are not wasting away - not so good.

LCR: Yep, I am staying within my eating window every day since 12/28. I eat from 1:00 - 8:00 p.m. That works best for during the week, especially. Weekends, I tend to shorten my window because I'm busy and I don't get hungry when I'm busy. When I'm relaxing is when the cravings start so it's really boredom-eating.

Britt: What you said reminds me of my grandmother's saying "Eat for the hunger that's coming".

I picked up the latest Woman's World supermarket magazine that has yet another breakthrough diet where you time your carbs to protein during the day and carbs at dinner and night snack. When they give the sample day, it sounds like it's a very low calorie diet touting that by supper, you can have 2 slices of pizza and 2 cookies (100 calories) before you go to bed. What cookie is 50 calories? Further back in the magazine is Rachael Ray recipes which some of them are over 1,000 calories per serving
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:41 AM   #191
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Ok gals, HUGE announcement: I am back on track! I am at my lowest weekly average today since November 1st. I lost 2 lbs since last week. I know it is because I cut out the coffee and also since I am just eating 1 CM and 1RM and doing those in a 6-8 hour period. I can see so many changes just in my appetite and not wanting to go wild at RM either. I can't believe how eating LESS is making me LESS hungry and eating MORE (even low carb) made me MORE hungry. I was still doing way better with eating 2 CM's and the coffee with cream with maintaining weight and no major hunger or cravings but this is AWESOME!!! I want to sing it from the mountain tops.

I even went and got my long straight hair cut into long layers (something I have wanted to do for a long time but wasn't brave enough for a change) and doing my make-up all cute and sexy. I feel great.

I'll include the week with my all-time low of 218 lbs in it to show you how weekly vs. daily wts is the way to go:

Week 14- 221.5 222 223 223 221.5 222 218 (221.57) +0.14 lb

Week 15- 220 221 223 221 221 221.5 222.5 (221.43) -0.14 lb

Week 16- 224 221 X 221.5 223 223 223 (222.58) +1.15 lbs

Week 17- 220 221 221 221 221 220 220 (220.57) -2 lbs!!!!

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MIW: Congrats on your weight and inches loss. It sounds like this is the plan for you! Inches lost without the scale showing always made me think it's fat/water loss not enough to register into lbs but just as important if not more because then you know that your muscles are not wasting away - not so good.
Yes, it is totally muscle formation and fat/water loss. Things shift. Also I think sometimes around the midriff it can be internal fat around the organs going away which is excellent!

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Hello everyone!

I'm a refuge from JUDDD. I loved the diet, but unfortunately it triggered my binging disorder and depression so I had to abandon it. And then, rather than doing the sensible thing and returning to low-carb, I fell off the wagon completely for a while. So, I'm returning 15 pounds heavier than my low point on JUDDD. Aww well. I'm back on track now!

I've decided to combine Primal eating with an eight-hour eating window because I do a lot better when I skip breakfast and limit my eating hours. Whole foods -- no weird bars or fake candy or blocks of cheese. I'm going to eat cleanly and sensibly this time and lose.this.weight!
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Hi Michelle! Welcome!

Monday morning! Not much to report--I am on plan, rode my exercise bike this morning, and was up a few ounces this morning. I know it's from the Chinese food I ate yesterday, so no big deal.

I am happy to say that my size 10 jeans are getting a little bit too big. I might have to exchange them for a size 8 in a few weeks. I also bought a size medium top this weekend. I have been wearing only size large for about a year, so that was a nice surprise.

Would love to maintain at a size 8/medium. But not in any hurry.

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I'm a refuge from JUDDD. I loved the diet, but unfortunately it triggered my binging disorder and depression so I had to abandon it. And then, rather than doing the sensible thing and returning to low-carb, I fell off the wagon completely for a while. So, I'm returning 15 pounds heavier than my low point on JUDDD. Aww well. I'm back on track now!

I've decided to combine Primal eating with an eight-hour eating window because I do a lot better when I skip breakfast and limit my eating hours. Whole foods -- no weird bars or fake candy or blocks of cheese. I'm going to eat cleanly and sensibly this time and lose.this.weight!
I love the way I feel eating in 6-8 hours. I am doing CAD/CALP so I do eat my carbs at dinner but am not hungry one bit. This is great! Good luck with you and I look forward to your posts

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Hi Michelle! Welcome!

Monday morning! Not much to report--I am on plan, rode my exercise bike this morning, and was up a few ounces this morning. I know it's from the Chinese food I ate yesterday, so no big deal.

I am happy to say that my size 10 jeans are getting a little bit too big. I might have to exchange them for a size 8 in a few weeks. I also bought a size medium top this weekend. I have been wearing only size large for about a year, so that was a nice surprise.

Would love to maintain at a size 8/medium. But not in any hurry.

Have a good week!!!!!!
You go girl!! I can't wait to be back in size larges. That would be incredible. I am in large size scrub pants now at work, just to get the top half to match up, LOL

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Hi friends!

Well, I'm noticing a new pattern this week. I am having my typical mild hunger pains from 8-8:15, but then I'm NOT getting hungry at 10:30. I didn't start to get hungry today until almost 11:30. I like this because it means I may be able to go to a shorter window....in the future. I'm not shortening my window yet, but I'm not going to eat until I"m hungry in my window. This has happened three days in a row...we'll see if it keeps happening. I would LOVE to do a six hour window because I was so successful with it in the past, but I'm not going to force it. Still, the moderated appetite is a wonderful reason to celebrate IF!

Same foods today as always...the ones I love. Tonight might be dinner out, or we might eat at home and do a quick workout. My daughter has been asking if we can go to the gym a couple of times a week, so I'll add that in with my weekday morning exercise.

MIW, I'm glad that you're seeing results from dropping the coffee/cream!

I was thinking today....I have been a size 4, 6, 8, 10, and 12 during the last 15 years. I am not willing to do what it takes to be a size 4 (strict diet/strict exercise), and I am overweight (by BMI) at a size 12 (no diet/no exercise). I think that IF+gentle exercise will take me to a size 8 that I can easily maintain. In looking at my weight gain/loss history, it seems very realistic and achievable.

(And funny, as I was typing this, a girl I work with who is quitting just came into my office and offered me her size 8 suits, lol. Sounds like size 8 may just be meant to be. )

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Rachel: Way to go on the size 8! That is good that you are finding what works for you.

For me, I am not hungry AT ALL until around 1 pm. It seems like I am getting later and later. I eat dinner between 5-7pm so it all just depends on the day but I am doing a 6-7 hour window. NO nothing except water, herbal tea (unsweetened) and my GTF chromium in the morning. Then my CAD CM lunch and a mostly balanced RM for dinner.

I am also having tons of energy. Cleaned out the minivan and organized everything in it which was an epic 2 hour chore, then the usual barn and house stuff. It is 1200 now and no hunger what so ever. I can't believe this. If I was doing WW I'd have eaten 3 times by now, be starving, shaking, sweating, ready for a nap and killing myself figuring out points to stuff my face with!

MIW- holding tight at 220 daily so this week my average might be my "new low" since November!
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MIW, it is definitely amazing how this impacts hunger. I know if I'd gotten up and had breakfast at 7, I'd have already eaten several times today. I also keep my day calorie-free unless I am in my window. It's so great to see a new low number consistently.

Just had some blackberries and greek yogurt for "lunch"....1:15 pm. I have my apple and peanut butter for a snack later when I am hungry for it.
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We aren't hungry at all until about 2p. So, we open our window at 2 and do 2-7. But, usually we eat a full meal around 2 and aren't hungry later. We may eat some almonds or have an Atkins shake before the window closes. We don't feel deprived at all. My DH is at his goal (188 on his 6'6" frame) after losing about 50#'s. I have more to lose, so I have to make sure he eats enough to maintain. Love IF. Love CAD. Love no-wheat.
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We aren't hungry at all until about 2p. So, we open our window at 2 and do 2-7. But, usually we eat a full meal around 2 and aren't hungry later. We may eat some almonds or have an Atkins shake before the window closes. We don't feel deprived at all. My DH is at his goal (188 on his 6'6" frame) after losing about 50#'s. I have more to lose, so I have to make sure he eats enough to maintain. Love IF. Love CAD. Love no-wheat.
It is so weird how it "used to be" with dieting where I would count the minutes until I could eat again, or count the calories, or points and constantly thinking about food. Now I look at the clock and am like, "Dang! I am not even hungry an it's 1pm????" LOL

What a way to live! Loving it!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 02-26-2013, 07:06 PM   #202
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I can't believe how much easier this is for me than JUDDD. I wish I would have tried it last year! I'm usually not even hungry until around one, then eat a big lunch followed by a smaller meal around eight. So far I haven't felt any need to snack or fall back into my late-night binge pattern.
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I don't get hungry till around 2:00 as well but I eat at 1:00 because my lunch partner could not hold out till then. Besides, that would give me till 9:00 p.m. to eat and I would really like to finish earlier in the evening. I'm at later in the day eater naturally but I don't think it's help me in weight loss. In my younger and slimmer days, I would eat around 11:00, then by 6:00 and not eat anymore that day.

Something changed and now my body or mind thinks I gotta have something before after supper.
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Hi everyone! I've been thinking outside the JUDDD box for a while, and am interested in the Fast 5 so I thought I'd mark a place here and give it a go! My fiancé and I eat dinner really early due to our work schedules (we eat between 4-5pm) so during the week this shouldn't be a problem. I'm concerned about the weekends though.

Today, I'm shooting for a noon-5pm window. I stopped eating last night at 5pm, so this should give me a good head start if I can go til noon without caving in and devouring my lunch! We'll see how that goes.....but I'm giving myself the "wiggle-room" option of expanding the window an hour or two if it looks like the weekends will be too tough to stop eating at 5pm.

I've been losing and gaining the same 3-5 pounds on JUDDD for a few months now; I'm also obsessed with the scale, so I've been working on staying off--so far, it's been almost 2 weeks since I weighed, so we'll see how I do with the Fast 5 for the rest of the week and do a weigh-in on Sunday! I'm excited--and nervous!

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Good morning!

Went to the gym with my daughter last night--it was fun! And did my morning workout today.

My scale is holding steady, but I am wearing a size 8 fitted skirt today, so that makes me happy.

It's a usual eating day, and we'll eat dinner out tonight. I haven't had my mild hunger pains yet this morning...they usually show up at 8:00 am or so. I wonder what is shifting for me? I'll keep tracking my hunger levels and see if I can figure it out. With the extra exercise last night, you'd think I'd be hungrier today. Hmmmm.

Lisa, you could do Fast-5 on the weekdays and an 8 hour window on the weekends. Or whatever works for you. One of the things I like best about IF is having the freedom to shift my window if needed without feeling guilty.

Michelle, I love not needing or wanting to snack after dinner.

Have meetings at work today--see you all later!
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Welcome Saxy!

I definitely do better when I limit myself to weekly weigh-ins. I'm still temped to jump on every morning, though.

Rachel, grats on the size-8 skirt, that's awesome!
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Thanks for the welcome! In doing some more reading, it seems like a lot of people are doing just one meal during that 5 hour period, or eating a snack 1-2 hours before their one meal....I just had lunch at noon, and I plan to have dinner between 4-5pm. I'm thinking this is ok, as long as all the eating is done within that 5-hr period, but can't help wondering if I'd have better success if I skipped the noon lunch. My food tracker for today's feeding is around 1250(that includes a dessert!) so I'm assuming it would produce a loss per week if I'm consistent with that number....but just wanted to get some expert feedback from the group.
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Rachel: Good going on getting into an Size 8! WTG !!!

Saxy: Good Luck on your 5 hour window - it sounds like a diet that's fit for you.


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Tomorrow will be my first day back at low-carb, with the addition of F5. My eating window will be 3-8pm.

If I have some half-n-half in my coffee before my eating window opens, do you think it will hinder my results?
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Melisa, welcome. On the half and half question, I'd say that it just varies by person. Some people do heavy cream, half and half, or even coconut oil in their coffee and say it helps them through the fast. I tried heavy cream and coconut oil and using them just made me hungrier. Also, some people have said that too much coffee/cream stalls them, while others are able to lose just fine.

IF is great because you can figure out what works for you, and if one thing isn't working, you can make a change.

Lisa, I do 8 hours of IF and don't count calories. I am losing very slowly, but I'm okay with it. I feel that IF works on a few different levels: helps regulate calories, helps burn fat when we are not eating all day long (gives our bodies a chance to access stored fat) and helps keep insulin levels steady (since we are not eating all the time.) When I did Fast-5 a few years ago, I always did lunch and dinner and did just fine without counting calories or feeling deprived.
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