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Old 10-18-2013, 11:18 AM   #1291
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Here was my RM from today. Ate a bit late due to getting kids off to school and hubby was working today otherwise he helps with that so I can eat earlier. Today from 9:30-10:30am

2 scrambled eggs with 1/2 cup shredded cheese and 3 TBSP regular sour cream

big bowl of 1 1/2 cups white rice covered with 1 1/2 Cups of green curry and lots of big chunks of diced beef and 1 TBSP butter

Fruit smootie: one banana, 1 cup strawberries, 1 C green grapes, 1 C red grapes, 1 small orange, 1 small pear, 1/2 C full fat maple syrup yogurt, 1 C ice

Ice cream milk shake with 3 Cups ice cream 1/2 cup half & half and 1 starbucks via

5 safeway bakery smores cookies

Todays wt 212.6 lbs. Still on TOM but I think today is last day...

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Old 10-18-2013, 12:44 PM   #1292
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I thank you MIW for always taking the time to respond , and to add the science behind it. I now am realizing were I have been failing. Because my blood sugar runs so low, I am always having to snack, sometimes every hour. With low carb I stay stable and dont get the crashes. I always wondered how my family and friends could have a muffin, or bagel for breakfast and be fine, I would starve with in two hours. Even greek yogurt and fruit left me famished. I have eaten eggs almost every day for breakfast..for years, because its the only thing that held me for hours. Even if I never lose a pound, I need to stick with this, it makes me feel like the hand cuffs were removed...I will admit I really want to lose weight too lol

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I thank you MIW for always taking the time to respond , and to add the science behind it. I now am realizing were I have been failing. Because my blood sugar runs so low, I am always having to snack, sometimes every hour. With low carb I stay stable and dont get the crashes. I always wondered how my family and friends could have a muffin, or bagel for breakfast and be fine, I would starve with in two hours. Even greek yogurt and fruit left me famished. I have eaten eggs almost every day for breakfast..for years, because its the only thing that held me for hours. Even if I never lose a pound, I need to stick with this, it makes me feel like the hand cuffs were removed...I will admit I really want to lose weight too lol

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My blood sugar runs low also. I fell for the old Grape Nuts commercial, keeps you going all morning long. What a joke! An hour later I was shaking and starving! It was worse than Fruity Pebbles! I also see my coworkers 2 hours after they eat looking like zombies, glad I'm off that crazy train!

MIW I agree, it's not the RM than messes up this WOE, it's your other 23 hours. They just don't want people to binge. My motto is save room for Reese's Cups!

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I do LOVE grape nuts lol, but would need a half a box to keep me full till noon lol. PB cups are my favorite thing in the world
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I thank you MIW for always taking the time to respond , and to add the science behind it. I now am realizing were I have been failing. Because my blood sugar runs so low, I am always having to snack, sometimes every hour. With low carb I stay stable and dont get the crashes. I always wondered how my family and friends could have a muffin, or bagel for breakfast and be fine, I would starve with in two hours. Even greek yogurt and fruit left me famished. I have eaten eggs almost every day for breakfast..for years, because its the only thing that held me for hours. Even if I never lose a pound, I need to stick with this, it makes me feel like the hand cuffs were removed...I will admit I really want to lose weight too lol

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You will lose weight if you just stick with it. It will happen because you will have less insulin storing each and every meal as microscopic fat cell increase and instead be burning what you are eating! You just have to be patient. Crash diets work because A) the calories are just so low you instantly go into starvation mode and start eating away at skeletal muscles and B) simply just aren't eating enough to store anything excess into fat. But it ruins your metabolism worse because of how much insulin surgers happen which is why the constant hunger and INSTANT weight gain the second you stop the calorie restriction. Give your body time to re-adjust and rev up the metabolism by eating more calories. Just this time you will be doing it in a way to your benefit which is where the hyperinsulinmeia-type metabolism really shines! It is actually the superior metabolism type IMO because we are the ones who can go into the woods and not starve and be found 3 months later with little or no food because our bodies are so efficient at fat storage and over-producing insulin it is simply going to happen. I know we produce insulin even when we see images of food, think about food and I suspect even when brushing our teeth!
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My blood sugar runs low also. I fell for the old Grape Nuts commercial, keeps you going all morning long. What a joke! An hour later I was shaking and starving! It was worse than Fruity Pebbles! I also see my coworkers 2 hours after they eat looking like zombies, glad I'm off that crazy train!

MIW I agree, it's not the RM than messes up this WOE, it's your other 23 hours. They just don't want people to binge. My motto is save room for Reese's Cups!
Yes and you really have to get away from the "diet" mindset. No more tiny bird portions and bird calories. This diet does not work because of the calories!!! It works because of reduction in insulin surges. Both in the one meal you eat carbs and the other 23 hours. If you just basically make your body produce less insulin than it has been the previous part of your life the fat is going to melt away on it's own. It is slow, does take time but that is because you are burning STORED fat and not muscle but nor are you storing fat from your meals! It is not a gimmick or a fad diet- just a life long eating plan. I have seen plenty of gals a lot older than me who have been doing this 5 or 10 years or even longer who have lost 100 lbs over that time frame so I know for a FACT it does work.

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I tried to add to the last message an edit but it timed out.

My point is that I am an RN with a science background so I am always researching insulin resistance, hyperinsulinemia, metabolic syndrome, syndrome X. I have been an ICU nurse for 5 years, and spent the last 10 years working cardiac cath lab and cardiac telemetry. I have recovered open heart patients, AAA repairs, patients on balloon pumps, stroke patients, trauma, etc. I can say with my anecdotal experience that 80% of the patients I have with heart problems are diabetic and I have seen for myself for the last 15 years as an RN what the standard american medical diet advice of low fat, low calorie, low sodium diet and frequent small meals has only made people sicker, fatter, and more diabetic than ever.

I also wanted to share that I know of plenty of women older than me who have been following this WOE for 5 years, 10 years, or longer who have lost 100 lbs following CALP.

Teri on her website lowcarbcompatible has lost 100 lbs over 5 years

Patriciakr on Hour Power #5 has lost 100 lbs and has another 100 lbs to go.

Enomarb on the same thread (google the ones I mentioned) has been following CALP for over 10 years now and actually overshot her goal and had to start eating more! It really does happen!!


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Old 10-19-2013, 09:33 AM   #1298
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Ok not to pick on other WOE too much (because heck- I've done most of them myself) but looking at some various "meat and egg" threads called M&E or megging (LOL) as the WOE.

My God but I am soooo thankful for CAD. I was reading some shares on how they make all sorts of "smoothies" with special low carb yogurt and heavy on the SF products. I love being able to just eat real carbs and see progress AND and and and real fruits and vegggies. Some of the megging is ONLY meat and eggs all week, then "slowly" add back in veggies on the weekend! No thanks!

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Oh me too. I would just die if I had to eat only meat and eggs all week. But hey, I used to eat watermelon and pineapple for days on end and that was torture! Where would I be now if I didn't have my big breakfast meal? Thank the Lord!
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Ok not to pick on other WOE too much (because heck- I've done most of them myself) but looking at some various "meat and egg" threads called M&E or megging (LOL) as the WOE.

My God but I am soooo thankful for CAD. I was reading some shares on how they make all sorts of "smoothies" with special low carb yogurt and heavy on the SF products. I love being able to just eat real carbs and see progress AND and and and real fruits and vegggies. Some of the megging is ONLY meat and eggs all week, then "slowly" add back in veggies on the weekend! No thanks!

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OH GAWD NO lol. I liked Atkins, I love meat and vegetables, I stopped the diet because I kept slipping..I get the best of both worlds with CAD. I did a horrible job of it today though, but I wont bash myself.

I had a spinach , ham and cheese omlette for breakfast...check
I was busy carving pumpkins at lunch..ate a quick cup of cottage cheese..not good
worked out an hour..check
Dinner was chinese..no veges unless I count the bit of broccoli, and I finished with dark chocolate kisses...not balanced

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Can you all believe that soon we will be into the 2014 CAD/CALP Hangout? LOL I started on the 2012 so this is neat that it will keep on going!

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I found another website forum with some active members as well, lots of info if anyone is interested? This is my go to, but its nice to go there and see more losers as well. its called lowcarber dot org
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Yes Hour Power #5 CAD/CALP is there

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Ok my LOWEST weekly avg yet and also TOM????? Wow I am a believer!!! Thanks Oriana


Week 43- 215.4 215 215.8 X X 214.2 214.2 (214.92) -0.59

Week 44- 212.6 213.4 213.2 214 215 X 215.8 (214) -0.92

Week 45- 215 215.2 X 213.2 213.2 214 214.8 (214.23) +0.23

Week 46- X 214.4 215 216.6 217.8 216.4 214.2 (215.73) +1.50.………(214.72) -1.23 lbs

Week 47- 215.2 216 X X 215.8 214.6 214.6 (215.24) -0.49

Week 48- 213.6 214 215.4 213.2 213.2 215 214.2 (214.09) -1.33

Week 49- 213 211.8 212 212.2 213 212.4 213 (212.49) -1.60

Week 50- 212.8 212.6 212.6 212.4 212.6 212.8 212.6 (212.63) +0.14.…(213.61)-1.11 lbs

Week 51- 212.4 212.8 212.4 212.4 212.6 212.2 212.2 (212.43) -0.20

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Whoo hoo! Keep it up! What ya havin' today? I was up 3 pounds but I had a big free day. No worries. That is what you are supposed to expect. Back to by BB today until next Sat. For those of you who don't know, I am on the maintenance plan so if you are not at goal yet you don't get a free day on the 7th day.
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Whoo hoo! Keep it up! What ya havin' today? I was up 3 pounds but I had a big free day. No worries. That is what you are supposed to expect. Back to by BB today until next Sat. For those of you who don't know, I am on the maintenance plan so if you are not at goal yet you don't get a free day on the 7th day.
Today is 1 large ribeye steak full fat
24 ounce breakfast smoothie with banana, strawberries, grapes (grn and red), orange, full fat maple syrup yogurt
1/2 grilled cheese sandwhich
ice cream coffe milkshake with half and half
some smores cookies
few bites out of a fully loaded caramel apple dipped in walnutes, choc chips and cocunut shavings!

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Sharing this again with a bit more details about my weight loss and how TOM can affect weekly avg and how my changing my large meal to breakfast really made a difference and I believe it changes the hormonal reasons we store fat and retain water. DEFINITELY I am a believer now in eating carbs and large meal earlier in the day:


Week 43- 215.4 215 215.8 X X 214.2 214.2 (214.92) -0.59

Week 44- 212.6 213.4 213.2 214 215 X 215.8 (214) -0.92

Week 45- 215 215.2 X 213.2 213.2 214 214.8 (214.23) +0.23

Week 46- X 214.4 215 216.6 217.8 216.4 214.2 (215.73) +1.50.………(214.72) -1.23 lbs
(Above 2 weeks examples of my split-week gains from TOM)

Week 47- 215.2 216 X X 215.8 214.6 214.6 (215.24) -0.49
(Somewhere in here I started eating RM for breakfast and the weight is coming off even faster and I saw the LOWEST gain ever for being on TOM!!!)

Week 48- 213.6 214 215.4 213.2 213.2 215 214.2 (214.09) -1.33

Week 49- 213 211.8 212 212.2 213 212.4 213 (212.49) -1.60

Week 50- 212.8 212.6 212.6 212.4 212.6 212.8 212.6 (212.63) +0.14.…(213.61)-1.11 lbs

Week 51- 212.4 212.8 212.4 212.4 212.6 212.2 212.2 (212.43) -0.20
(Week 50 and 51 example of split-week TOM and ONLY gained 0.14 pound???)


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iakaren, I am so happy for you, I know you've been through a hard time lately, and it's good to see you have some success to hold on to. . like MIW says, you are going to do fine. . it does seem to get easier, sometimes the things that go on in our lives do make it harder to accomplish the goal, but if we can just concentrate on the fact that we will improve, maybe not exactly as we planned, but we will have success.. hang in there.

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So did you stay on plan or what???

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I think I'm down another pound and will measure myself tomorrow when I wake up. Here's my RM for today:
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Didn't lose, kinda sucks but its ok. I feel better, and even a little thinner..dang scale, I should send it the way of the DODO lol. I am thinking it might be chinese, I has some last weekend as well, and I didn't lose, I know it has a lot of sodium, maybe I am just retaining water. My dinner last night was pork chops, green beans an ear of corn, baked potato and a few kisses
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Didn't lose, kinda sucks but its ok. I feel better, and even a little thinner..dang scale, I should send it the way of the DODO lol. I am thinking it might be chinese, I has some last weekend as well, and I didn't lose, I know it has a lot of sodium, maybe I am just retaining water. My dinner last night was pork chops, green beans an ear of corn, baked potato and a few kisses
That is ok. Today I was 213 and all last week only saw weights in the 212's even being on TOM. I usually gain, lose and get a "new low" dry weight then gain back a bit as that is just usual water retention stuff. I am sure with Chinese there is tons of carbs, sodium AND MSG so it is the trifecta of weight gain for people low carbing! LOL

I have found I can eat sushi till it's coming out my ears and not gain and my favorite place even has low-sodium soy sauce behind the counter so I ask for it. Mexican for me always makes me gain so I stopped eating it as much...

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Chinese was a bad choice, and ohhh do I love mexican, but both are extremely high in sodium. I am at a point where I feel so good, that even if I dont lose any weight, I will continue with CAD
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So did you stay on plan or what???

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Yes, I did. Today I have sore throat, so not sure how it will go. I am starving and already had soup for lunch.
Probably going to eat RM for supper and sleep, to try and get ahead of the sore throat.....
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The last time I was here, there was no activity. I didn't realize it had been so long ago. I just restarted CAD/CALP and I can't believe how active y'all have been. It is great to see and I am enjoying reading all the posts. I came back here yesterday and I am reading a little everyday so I can get to know y'all. I'm only on page 4, but I am learning a whole lot from you. I really love the way everyone does this a little different to fit them, I like that.

I am doing the RM around 2 or 3 pm and then 1 CM between 6 and 7 pm. And I have had a great day. Ate what I wanted and satisfied not full. Just the way I like to feel.

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I know RM isn't balanced, but I did this the 1st time about 11 yrs ago using CAD and will do it that way most of the time this time around as long as it works. I've chosen some of the CALP options such as I don't drink diet drinks any more. However, I do use Stevia in my morning coffee with half and half. Also when I want lemon water or even a soda, I put Stevia in club soda or seltzer water, but I don't do that vey often. I have switched from chromium picolinate to GTF chromium and don't knowingly eat MSG. I do use the 1/3 formula of CALP once in a while.

Glad I came back to see if there was anything going on here. It so good to be back here and happy to see everyone sharing how this is working for them.
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Welcome Patty ,

I am just starting m 3rd week, I am not always balanced, and I have eaten chinese twice. I think the chinese has killed the weight loss I might have had, I am not sure, right now I am just enjoying the freedom. Last night I used my reward meal to have a couple rum and cokes with my husband, watching a movie and having cheese, and pepperoni and a few wheat thins. I would have had to run for 90 mins to do that on my low cal diet. Was it healthy and balanced? No, but I had two other meals yesterday full of protein and veges, so I am not going to stress it. Its just nice to be able to feel like a "normal" person and not constantly be stressed over calories
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I am just starting m 3rd week, I am not always balanced, and I have eaten chinese twice. I think the chinese has killed the weight loss I might have had, I am not sure, right now I am just enjoying the freedom. Last night I used my reward meal to have a couple rum and cokes with my husband, watching a movie and having cheese, and pepperoni and a few wheat thins. I would have had to run for 90 mins to do that on my low cal diet. Was it healthy and balanced? No, but I had two other meals yesterday full of protein and veges, so I am not going to stress it. Its just nice to be able to feel like a "normal" person and not constantly be stressed over calories
I know some of the "pursists" of CALP will roll over with me saying this but when I started doing intermittent fasting I really aimed for balance over the course of my 2 meals and made dang sure I had plenty of protein and low carb veggies at my CM to make up for the carbs I had during RM and I still lost weight at the same rate even though many times it was not balanced. I am not advocating that but pointing out that you should aim for balance at the meal and if not, at least for the day and if not that, at least over the course of the week have days that are better than others. I know pediatricians will tell you on your toddlers to look for balance over the course of the week because they will have days where they eat nothing but orange wedges and others where it is just string cheese, etc and you will go crazy if you try to force feed a toddler! LOL

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Old 10-22-2013, 09:35 AM   #1318
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I go crazy trying to feed my 8 year old. He has sensory issues and textures are huge for him. He will eat no meat besides chicken nuggets and nathans all beef hot dogs, He will eat ground beef in spaghetti sauce if I simmer it all day so its soft. He likes absolutely no vegetables, he will eat fruit, and he loves yogurt, I can get him to eat PB..so I just give the poor kid a multi vitamin and make sure he has yogurt and pb every day...makes me insane

I am normally a pretty balanced eater in general, I love every vege I have ever tried, I love meat too. I figure I eat pretty healthy for the most part, and I exercise 6 days a week, I am pretty fit, so if I eat not so balanced a couple days, I am not going to worry about it
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:32 PM   #1319
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Well I've been on this WOE for 3 weeks and have lost 2lbs and a total of 3"! Not really fast weight loss but it's still a loss! I am NOT a CALP purist but I know you can eat drink and be merry on your RM! For me , if I drink alcohol, I need to eat yogurt the next day to keep my gut happy. I did not know that the first time I did this WOE and consumed large amts of Dt. Coke and other sugar free caffeine and my gut was not happy and neither was I!

I hope to see everyone and more people for 2014 CAD/CALP thread!
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Old 10-22-2013, 02:17 PM   #1320
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This is day 2 in full swing and commitment on this way of eating as I just kind of eased back into it recently. I had a great eating day yesterday. Did so well, I slept all night. I couldn't believe how well I slept and how good I felt when I got up. I do try to make sure that I get plenty of veggies at my evening CM especially if RM has been a little carby and I do have days when my RM is more balanced. I enjoy being able to eat the things I really like and not feeling like I'm on a diet.

I did eat breakfast this morning. Don't know if I was hungry or just had a taste for bacon and eggs with a slice of cheese. But had it with my 1 cup of morning coffee. I cut down to only 1 c of regular coffee a day a while back, but after reading MIW posting of the Heller's article about caffeine's effect on insulin surges, I'm thinking about going to decaf. However, in the last few days my daily fasting blood sugar is coming down nicely. I'll just have to see how it goes since getting it back to normal is a major goal for me even more than the WL.

RM today was a home cooked cheeseburger with extra veggies on it and small serving of fries and okra and ice cream with a few cashews. I eat an ice cream on a stick so that I don't overdo the dessert.

CM later will be a big salad with a nice butterfly chop.

Loving how this works.
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