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Old 03-30-2013, 12:00 PM   #601
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Just checking in.....................this style of eating also allows for stress-wiggle (in my life)

I will be checking in on regular basis AFTER 2 more weeks....
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:29 AM   #602
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Happy Easter, evepryone! Hope you all havep a beautiful day!! Well, I didn't end up losing a pound this past week, but I did lose .7! Of course, DH lost 1.6 ......... how does he DO that?!?!? Anyway, a loss is a loss, and I'm happy, as long as the scale keeps going down.......

PLUS I found another pair of jeans I can fit into!!!!! These are still 18W, but they were tight when I wasin size 18's, so I'm happy they fit and aren't tight!!!!!
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Hi, I'm finally able to check in...after having the evil FLU! I'm not myself yet, but feeling better.

I saw 179.4 on the scale this morning, I'll take it. Even if it's just a fluke from being sick!

Looking forward to feeling even better and moving onward and downward the scale!
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Hi all! New low. Today the scale couldn't decide it I was 215.5 or 216 so I went with the 216. Funny since last week ending on Sunday I was up 1.22 lbs, LOL

I know this cyclical game and I have ups and downs but overall trend is a slow DOWN and I love it that I am losig and eating so much. I really haven't changed my eating habits at all, other than combing IF/CAD and still eating all the foods I love and in the amounts I want. Just by tricking my metabolism the weight is coming off. I know if I was exercising it would be even faster.

Basically this is totally for life! To eat regular food, plus the fact that I am eating way more fresh veggies than ever and NEVER being hungry. Screaming it from the mountains yet again!

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That is so great MIW!

Sorry you had the flu Future. I am keeping my fingers crossed not to get that. The older I get, the more I feel "like I'm gonna die" when I get sick.

I spent Easter recruiting family members to this CAD thingy. =) I got my cousin for sure, and maybe my nieces. Maybe I should pick up a few extra copies of the book to have on hand to pass out to people who ask. ??

I had to eat breakfast this morning. I was a bad bad girl for 2 days while my family was here. It wasn't food so much as it was wine. We drink more wine than we should and it is a blast every easter and thanksgiving. =) But I was hungry as heck this morning after my weekend debochery so I will start IF in a few days when I stop being hungry again.

The scale was also very forgiving to me this morning Hooray!
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That is so great MIW!

Sorry you had the flu Future. I am keeping my fingers crossed not to get that. The older I get, the more I feel "like I'm gonna die" when I get sick.

I spent Easter recruiting family members to this CAD thingy. =) I got my cousin for sure, and maybe my nieces. Maybe I should pick up a few extra copies of the book to have on hand to pass out to people who ask. ??

I had to eat breakfast this morning. I was a bad bad girl for 2 days while my family was here. It wasn't food so much as it was wine. We drink more wine than we should and it is a blast every easter and thanksgiving. =) But I was hungry as heck this morning after my weekend debochery so I will start IF in a few days when I stop being hungry again.

The scale was also very forgiving to me this morning Hooray!
Hey a little debauchery is good once in a while! LOL It is hard for us too- we make wine! LOL Try having carboys all over the kitchen counters. We actually give away waaaay more than we drink but I learned early on I'd rather have my chocolate, ice cream, and cake (in that order) before my wine and will save it for maybe once a month or holidays so I can eat my more favorite goodies daily.

Also, congrats! I just noticed you are down over 20 lbs! That is awesome

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Actually, I have to update that - because I am actually 238.4 now!

If I made wine I would always be lost, always be fat, always be red, and always be giggling.
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Week 1- 235 (235)

Week 2- 231 229 (230) -5 lbs

Week 3- 228 (228) -1 lb

Week 4- 227 226 (226.5) -1.5 lbs

Week 5- 225 227 228 225 (226.25) -0.25 lbs

Week 6- 225 225 225.5 225.5 225 224 223.5 (224.79) -1.5 lbs

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Week 9- 222 224 225 222.5 223 222.5 223.5 (223.21) -1 lb

Week 10- 223 222.5 221.5 221 223 223 222 (222.29) -0.9 lb

Week 11- 221 223 221 221 221 224 223 (222) -0.30 lb

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Week 16- 224 221 X 221.5 223 223 223 (222.58) +1.15 lbs

Week 17- 220 221 221 221 221 220 220 (220.57) -2 lbs

Week 18- 220 220 220.5 220 220 220 219.5 (220) -0.57 lb

Week 19- 220 218 219 218.5 218.5 218.5 217.5 (218.57) -1.43

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Hey there! Busy with tax season I suppose. Enough to make anyone crazy right now. Hang in there!

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Weight Loss has been slow !! every few days I have a gain ??

Hi everybody.. I am new here..started doing the CAD diet two weeks ago tomorrow....weight loss has been slow..have not cheated once....every few days I am getting a gain and I have no idea why....I feel more bloated and constipated on this diet than I ever did before but this is the only diet I have been able to stick to...I am down about 5 pounds over a 2 week period..have another 40 to go.. at least..any tips of restarting my metabolism ?? thanks Cara
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Only 1 RM meal a day

Today was a RM only day (yep, didn't eat a thing all day!) and I wasn't even hungry. I have been slowly going more and more IF along with CAD and I can now see how Rachael Heller was able to lose 150 lbs by only eating once a day. After you body gets used to it you really aren't hungry at all the other 23 hours of the day. I don't do this all the time but today just worked out that I wasn't hungry.

MIW[/QUOTE] Many days I am not hungry and do not want my CM meal but I do it anyways because I think I wont lose weight if I only do a RM and my metabolism will slow way down doing 1 meal a day ?? also dont the Hellers say that your insulin from your last meal is released when you eat and wouldn't it be releasing alot of insulin if you only had a RM ? does this make sense ?
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Today was a RM only day (yep, didn't eat a thing all day!) and I wasn't even hungry. I have been slowly going more and more IF along with CAD and I can now see how Rachael Heller was able to lose 150 lbs by only eating once a day. After you body gets used to it you really aren't hungry at all the other 23 hours of the day. I don't do this all the time but today just worked out that I wasn't hungry.

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Many days I am not hungry and do not want my CM meal but I do it anyways because I think I wont lose weight if I only do a RM and my metabolism will slow way down doing 1 meal a day ?? also dont the Hellers say that your insulin from your last meal is released when you eat and wouldn't it be releasing alot of insulin if you only had a RM ? does this make sense ?[/QUOTE]

CaraNoelle: As to the constipation issues: there can be many factors. Some people the more you eat, the more you poop (as in frequency). So, only eating once a day will slow the digestive tract down, leaving the stool in the colon longer, and hence it getting compacted and drier which equals constipation. Other issues can just be from being dehydrated so be sure you are getting at least 2 Liters of water a day. Next is the whole fiber thing. Be sure you are getting LOTS of veggies with this WOE. I say the 2 cup salad thing is too little. My salads, especially at my CM are usually 4 to 6 cups! When I say huge I usually eat them in the medium or large size Pyrex nesting bowls LOL!

I know what you mean about the hunger and isn't that awesome? I mean who would think eating less (frequent) makes you less hungry? IF really does work. I am sure what the Heller's studied specifically about bi-phasic insulin release and tricking the body to release less insulin for a RM was based off of people eating more frequently. With extreme IF, the body is fasting so long it just naturally releases less insulin even at a heavy carb meal because of that so, no, I don't think it is going to give a big surge because you ate a carb heavy meals 23 hours prior. I don't have any specific scientifc data to back that up other than my own personal experience.

As to the only eating once a day and worry about the metabolism slowing: I am in that same camp. Studies do show especially with people who are chronically overweight and I assume with IR the metabolism does want to keep us fat and will adjust to caloric intake, exercise, etc and that is why even in more normal weight folks that last 10-20 pounds is so difficult to lose. Also, extreme low carb, over time your body will actually start to convert your protein into carb chains so why make your body do that if you don't have to by keeping carbs a part of your diet in the first place?

I am in the camp to eat as much as you can now, and exercise as less so that way I have more wiggle room once I get closer to goal. If I start to really stall I can always be a bit more meticulous about my caloric intake or carb choices and always start uping my activity.

Here is how I am making sure I am getting in everything I need in a day with combing CAD with IF: if on days I am hungry, I eat the CM and the RM. I do not make myself eat if I am not hungry nor do I starve myself if I am. This has to be for life so remember to let your body guide you. Second, on the days I eat a CM, I make dang sure it is packed with a lot of protein, fat, and veggies. Make it big. Because as you know with the shorter eating windows, sometimes you are just not hungry! So... come RM time if you still are not that hungry but do want your carb, just eat it. I know, I will probably get some blow-back that this is not on CAD. It is definately not on CALP plan.

However, I have realized that with IF and my short eating windows of anywhere from 3-8 hours, I am actually getting a very well rounded balanced RM of fats/protein/veggies/carbs- it is just spaced out over two meals. I am losing weight like this so I know it works. At least for me. I have the daily wts to prove it and I am an objective and scrutinizing personality so if I didn't see it working I would change. In fact I did just that by following "the plan" with the coffees, even with/without cream and found for my particular metabolism coffee just cannot be a part of my eating plan AT ALL unless it is during an RM. Last week I was up 1.22 pounds and the ONLY thing different I did was have an iced decaf americano black! two days in a row in the morning. Did nothing to spike appetite, etc but I gained weight!

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Hi everybody.. I am new here..started doing the CAD diet two weeks ago tomorrow....weight loss has been slow..have not cheated once....every few days I am getting a gain and I have no idea why....I feel more bloated and constipated on this diet than I ever did before but this is the only diet I have been able to stick to...I am down about 5 pounds over a 2 week period..have another 40 to go.. at least..any tips of restarting my metabolism ?? thanks Cara
You will have ups and downs! I see the same "low" weight off and on for over a month sometimes before the scale drops again. It is very slow but it is happening trust me! Hang in there. DO NOT let a 2 pound weight gain in one or two days worry you. We woman are big bags of hormones that cause water in/out of our cells constantly. It is par for the course. Here is a link to my weight loss ticker. If you scroll down to the daily numeric weights, there is a button that says "show all data" or something like that. You can click on it and see my daily wts going back to Nov 1st. Yes my loss has been at a snails pace. If I was doing WW and starving myself and exercising like crazy I'd have lost over 40 lbs by now but would have given up due to being hungry all the time and gained it back.

My "snails pace" weight loss is with my eating 1800-2600 calories a day of ANY food I like and in any amount I feel like eating. Also, no real exercise to think of other than my usual daily activities which I am fairly active with 2 kids, I am a nurse and running for my 12 hours shifts, and have 5 acres with lots of gardens and animals to look after. however I spend my share of time on my butt watching tv and on the net too!

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New low today everyone! 215.5 lbs! I am sooooo happy. It has been a solid 5 1/2 years since I've been at this weight. All with no effort and eating and as happy as a clam. This does work and is for life! Yes, it is super slow and the small ups/downs can be frustrating but I have been at this now for 24 weeks and see the overall downward trend. Hang in there every one!

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MIW~ thankyou so much for explaining all that to me was very helpful !! I am going to up my water intake and see if that helps with the constipation...I did look at your data and that is awesome !! I saw that in the first week though you had a pretty great weight loss...mine was no where near that I have cut out so many calories and sodas by doing this diet that I thought the weight would just fall off the first week !! also what does woe stand for ?? all these abbreviations are new to me

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New low today everyone! 215.5 lbs! I am sooooo happy. It has been a solid 5 1/2 years since I've been at this weight. All with no effort and eating and as happy as a clam. This does work and is for life! Yes, it is super slow and the small ups/downs can be frustrating but I have been at this now for 24 weeks and see the overall downward trend. Hang in there every one!

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How balanced does your rm have to be ?

by the time rm comes around im so sick of salad ....can we just eat what we want for that hour and not worry about getting it balanced ? I don't really understand the philosophy in it being balanced anyways ?????
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I have had to google and ask alot myself about what various abbreviations mean so don't worry about asking!

WOE: way of eating
WOL: way of life
SAD: standard american diet
CAD: Carbohydrate Addict's Diet
CALP: Carbohydrate Addict's LifeSpan Program
IF: intermittent fasting
JUDDD: Johnson's Up Day Down Day diet
DANDR: Dr. Atkin's new diet revolution
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CM: complimentary meal or craving reducing meal
RM: reward meal

These are the most common ones I have seen on my various CAD/CALP groups mentioned

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by the time rm comes around im so sick of salad ....can we just eat what we want for that hour and not worry about getting it balanced ? I don't really understand the philosophy in it being balanced anyways ?????
Yes and no. Officially "no." At least for long term. People do have days where they are carb overloaded at an RM and are ok and don't lose. However, by keeping track of your daily wts and doing a weekly avg you can see if you messed up your metabolism for the week or not. Some people report being able to go absolutely nuts at RM's and doing just fine. Others are very strict on the balance thing and those are the ones who I have read blogs and posts for 5, 9, 10+ years and the people who have lost 100 lbs or more and kept it off. You decide for your body.

However, in general, it is customary to try to post as being "on plan" or it can be upsetting for some people as they struggle with carb addictions and super slow weight loss and reading someone post "I had half a bag of tootsie rolls and a box of rice crispies for dinner and today I am down 3 lbs!" very discouraging.

I can say for myself, I am 100% on plan half the time (CALP with the balanced plate of a salad, then 1/3 meat/fats, 1/3 veggies, 1/3 carb of my choice), and a bit lax the other 50%. I am still very slowly losing, having my ups and downs. I want to do this for life and since I am not a militant strict person and sick of diets, if I want to have a carb loaded dinner I will. BUT, and a BIG BUT, I do make sure those days that I do have a CM and it is full of a huge salad, veggies, and lots of protein. I would not do nothing but carbs only, especially as a WOL.

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Yes and no. Officially "no." At least for long term. People do have days where they are carb overloaded at an RM and are ok and still lose. However, by keeping track of your daily wts and doing a weekly avg you can see if you messed up your metabolism for the week or not. Some people report being able to go absolutely nuts at RM's and doing just fine. Others are very strict on the balance thing and those are the ones who I have read blogs and posts for 5, 9, 10+ years and the people who have lost 100 lbs or more and kept it off. You decide for your body.

However, in general, it is customary to try to post as being "on plan" or it can be upsetting for some people as they struggle with carb addictions and super slow weight loss and reading someone post "I had half a bag of tootsie rolls and a box of rice crispies for dinner and today I am down 3 lbs!" very discouraging.

I can say for myself, I am 100% on plan half the time (CALP with the balanced plate of a salad, then 1/3 meat/fats, 1/3 veggies, 1/3 carb of my choice), and a bit lax the other 50%. I am still very slowly losing, having my ups and downs. I want to do this for life and since I am not a militant strict person and sick of diets, if I want to have a carb loaded dinner I will. BUT, and a BIG BUT, I do make sure those days that I do have a CM and it is full of a huge salad, veggies, and lots of protein. I would not do nothing but carbs only, especially as a WOL.

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I did not go to weigh in today so no idea what I am down. Kids are on spring break and I chose to sleep in Not real heartbroken though....I am sure to be up this week. Took kids to a movie and had popcorn yesterday and TOM is visiting...thats a guaranteed recipe for a gain! Feel gross and bloaty today though


The weather is finally starting to break. Its making me want to start walking or going outside again....the wintertime just drags your energy from you and sometimes you don't really even know it until the spring hits and you start getting energy back!
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I did not go to weigh in today so no idea what I am down. Kids are on spring break and I chose to sleep in Not real heartbroken though....I am sure to be up this week. Took kids to a movie and had popcorn yesterday and TOM is visiting...thats a guaranteed recipe for a gain! Feel gross and bloaty today though


The weather is finally starting to break. Its making me want to start walking or going outside again....the wintertime just drags your energy from you and sometimes you don't really even know it until the spring hits and you start getting energy back!
Lotus glad you are posting again! Don't worry, there is always another day to weigh yourself and another day to get back on plan. TOM can be brutal and I notice about every other month seems to be harder than the other with craving chocolate for me but still not near what it used to be off plan. Hang in there!

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typical gain with TOM ?

I always gain with TOM but I am wondering what is typical ?Also How many days prior do we start retaining water ?? thanks !
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TOM issues: this is where you are just going to have to do daily wts and keep track, month after month. Tedious and boring as it sounds, only after about 3 months will you see the pattern emerge. It is probably a bit different for everyone. I usually am up a full 1+ for my TOM and start gaining a few days before it actually starts. By my last day of the period, I am actually "dried out" and that is when I usually see a "new low" weight but it only lasts a day or so, then I get my body back in balance. Just don't let it get you down, keep on plan and keep up with weights and avgs. In addition to daily wts, I also keep track of my weight from the start of the month to the end and I am ALWAYS less at the end of a month despite the little weekly ups and downs. Hang in there!

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Old 04-05-2013, 04:11 PM   #627
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WOE: One meal a day CAD style
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Does anyone know the exact quote on the 2oz cheese rule and if it is from the CAD book and/or CALP? All my copies are on loan. I have always remembered it and I found it mentioned several times on websites but I'd like the exact info as written by the Heller's. Please state the year the book was published/edition and page number. Thanks!

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Anyone read the Stress Eating Cure by the Hellers. They promote a big breakfast and the earlier you eat your rm the better weight loss. That is what I have been experiencing. I am less hungry if I eat earlier too. Yesterday I fasted all day until dinner and it seemed I couldn't get full, felt gross the next morning and gained 3 pounds. On the other hand when I eat a big breakfast or brunch I am full all day and done eating plus lose 3.5 or more pounds. There are many studies and another book written called the Big Breakfast Diet where they talk about your circadiam rhythm in your body and how if you include at least 7 oz. of protein in your early meal you burn way more calories, your body temp. goes up and you can lose eating more calories even up to 3000 calories for breakfast. She is a Dr. and her last name is Jacobowitz.
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Anyone read the Stress Eating Cure by the Hellers. They promote a big breakfast and the earlier you eat your rm the better weight loss. That is what I have been experiencing. I am less hungry if I eat earlier too. Yesterday I fasted all day until dinner and it seemed I couldn't get full, felt gross the next morning and gained 3 pounds. On the other hand when I eat a big breakfast or brunch I am full all day and done eating plus lose 3.5 or more pounds. There are many studies and another book written called the Big Breakfast Diet where they talk about your circadiam rhythm in your body and how if you include at least 7 oz. of protein in your early meal you burn way more calories, your body temp. goes up and you can lose eating more calories even up to 3000 calories for breakfast. She is a Dr. and her last name is Jacobowitz.
I have toyed with the idea due to the potential added weight loss but I actually tried switching my RM from dinner one night to breakfast the next day and both Hubby and I ended up with whopping headaches. Not sure if it was two carby meals close to each other after months of dinner RM's only but it was enough to scare me! Plus, I get so worried I will be hungry later. I like it knowing if I hold out all day I can have my carbs and not worry about too much time on the clock to get another meal in. Not that I have been hungry to do that but psychologically in my head that is what I think would happen. So far my natural rythm is if I am doing an RM only day I seem to get hungry around 2-4 pm. Other days I am hungry earlier at 1200 and eat a CM then later my RM. I just am not hungry much earlier than that. Some days 1100am but that would be the earliest. I should just give it a try for a 2 week period to see what happens!

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by the time rm comes around im so sick of salad ....can we just eat what we want for that hour and not worry about getting it balanced ? I don't really understand the philosophy in it being balanced anyways ?????
if it works for you, not having it balanced, go for it! it depends upon how worn out your metabolism is.

i did the CAD (unbalanced) and lost 12 pounds at a decent clip, but quit losing shortly thereafter. eating carbs is not half as important as meat and low starch veggies. if you're eating a lot more carbs than the protein/fat, you won't lose as much weight.

here's my extreme example: if you have thick crust pizza, washing it down with a coca-cola, plus pecan pie for dessert for your RM, you'll get overloaded with the carbs. compared to a more balanced meal, with far fewer carbs. all calories are not created equal.

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