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homestretch 09-13-2009 12:47 PM

6 Week Cure for the Middle Age Middle
 
Just thought I would start a thread to discuss the new book. I have ordered it and am waiting for it to arrive. Anyone who wants to share links or information can do it here. Many of us are waiting for our books so if anyone wants to share what to eat the first two weeks until our books get here it would be welcome.

Here is the link to a great interview with the Eades from Jimmy Moore's website (this is the MP3 download that you can listen to on your computer): http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/s...-the-eades.mp3

jem51 09-13-2009 08:04 PM

i do not have the book but have been following a group at ALC who've started.
from what i gather, it is protein shakes and one meal....am i wrong on this? some specific supplements as well.
there was also something about the reccommendation for using Enova oil...which i really don't get the point of.
i'll be interested in what others have read.

Cathieinut 09-13-2009 11:25 PM

I thought the interview was very good and there really was a lot of information to think about.
I am not currently a PP WOL person but I might give this a try once I know more.
I am wondering about the supplements and if there are some pricey ones they recomend and also the meds they suggest to avoid?

NGJ26 09-14-2009 06:15 AM

Homestretch, thanks for starting this thread! I am giving this program my best. I was lucky and found the book at Barnes and Nobles. I have jumped around reading here and there, but plan on spending more time reading the complete book this week.

Now its off to listen to the PodCast.

homestretch 09-14-2009 06:29 AM

The podcast is very good. The use of DAG oil or Enova has been shown to increase metabolism and that is why they include it in their plan.

homestretch 09-14-2009 06:31 AM

Here are my questions: Are the shakes just whey protein or do the recipes require you to add more ingredients? How many shakes do you drink in a day. On the podcast they say that people complain that they can't drink all of their shakes so I am assuming you get more than two????

Stevie Renee 09-14-2009 07:50 AM

Homestretch,
I thought I read in Eads forum someone said the first round is two weeks of shakes and 1 meal. Someone posted 4 shakes, 1 meal.

I ordered the book and am waiting. I am curious.

homestretch 09-14-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevie Renee (Post 12477615)
Homestretch,
I thought I read in Eads forum someone said the first round is two weeks of shakes and 1 meal. Someone posted 4 shakes, 1 meal.

I ordered the book and am waiting. I am curious.

I am waiting for my book also. Sometimes Amazon's shipping is soooooo slow.:down:

NGJ26 09-14-2009 08:14 AM

I have the book and it is 3 shakes and 1 Meal.

The shakes are basic:

1-3 scoops WHEY POWDER (based on your current weight)
2 TBLS HWC or Coconut Milk
3/4 cup water & ice


Optional but recommended additions:

1 egg
1 tsp DAG oil (Enova)
2500 mg D-Ribose
2500 mg Leucine

Kiley2801 09-14-2009 08:38 AM

Hello. Marking my spot. I bought the book yesterday and have read about 1/2 of it. I did buy the supplements at the Vitamin Shoppe and have started today.

I have about 20 lbs to lose, and thought this book could help me get on the right track.

I made a couple caveats:
1. I didn't have time to 'wean' myself off of caffeine, so I am cutting down-starting today. By week's end I hope to be at none. I am aware this could impede my results somewhat--but I'm thinking I'll still see benefits.
2. I could not find Enova oil, so I added coconut oil instead. I'm going to search for the Enova again later this week at another grocery store.

I'll keep you posted of any results.

jem51 -- what does "ALC" stand for?

Tirjasdyn 09-14-2009 09:03 AM

Hi all,

I just got my book and I'm halfway through. Once I pick up more HWC tonight I will start tommorrow.

The D-Ribose is recommended if you plan on weight lifting or heavy exercise right away.

I use a Whey powder that contains Leucine already. I plan to either add coconut oil or flax oil to mine. I have to stay away from soy.

Also there is a list of approved meals for the first two weeks. The recipes are in in the book. Most are simple affairs and there are options for breakfast lunch and dinner depending on which meal you choose to eat. I've been off caffeine for awhile.

NGJ26 09-14-2009 10:59 AM

Kiley2801 & Tirjasdyn I started today too! I did have one regular coffee this a.m., but have only had decaf since. I can't believe I actually ordered a DECAF Ice coffe from DD this a.m.

I'll be coming here and posting to my blog. It might take me a good week to get truly up and rolling, i.e. measurements and the such.. but I've had two shakes so far and plan on drinking my third at about 3.....

Dinner is out with a girlfriend, so I think I will have a Chicken or Steak Salad.

Good Luck, I look forward to everyones success.

Cathieinut 09-14-2009 11:07 AM

Sounds like we will have several examples to follow.
Best of luck everyone and hope you have little middles by Halloween! LOL

Kiley2801 09-14-2009 11:49 AM

Great, it will be nice to have some comrades.

I still need to take my measurements AND buy a more reliable scale. I'm more of a 'size matters' girl though. I am just about bursting out of size 10s now (could def. wear a 12 in many of my pants), and I'm aiming to get back into my 8s (which are what 75% of the clothes in my closet consist of--grrr). Ultimately, I'd like to get to a solid 6. (yep have some of those in my closet too, from my late 20s/early 30s).

I ate my "real meal" at lunch. I had a grilled chicken ceaser salad-- yum. Still have two shakes to go...

kaywood 09-14-2009 12:29 PM

Marking my spot. I will be traveling for 1 1/2 weeks so decided it makes no sense to try to work this while not home. While away I plan to read the book, put together a grocery list and get started as soon as I get home.

My protein powder has 2500 gm leucine in it and my multi vitamin contains all the supplements he suggests so I just need to have groceries on hand for the 1 meal per day.

I've gone months losing nothing and just thought this a good way to jump start weight loss.

I'll enjoy reading everyone elses experiences while I'm away.

Stevie Renee 09-14-2009 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGJ26 (Post 12477744)
I have the book and it is 3 shakes and 1 Meal.

The shakes are basic:

1-3 scoops WHEY POWDER (based on your current weight)
2 TBLS HWC or Coconut Milk
3/4 cup water & ice


Optional but recommended additions:

1 egg
1 tsp DAG oil (Enova)
2500 mg D-Ribose
2500 mg Leucine

Thanks...how many scoops for 160 pounds?

NGJ26 09-14-2009 01:02 PM

From the book:

Your protein powder should be 18-22 grams per scoop (more is fine)

Under 130 lbs use one scoop

131-180 use two scoops

>181 use three scooops

Tirjasdyn 09-14-2009 01:23 PM

Plan to make up a whole batch for the week so I can just pour it out as needed. I plan to make vanilla so I can spice / change it up as needed. I have chocolate whey powder too...but I don't like it as much.

I'm going to Pittsburgh at the end of the week so I'll have to back off (maybe get some pre-blended for the hotel fridge) but frankly I'm planning to extend my two weeks to three...with a total of two after I get back. keeping lc will be easy...but not on the shakes.

Stevie Renee 09-14-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGJ26 (Post 12479027)
From the book:

Your protein powder should be 18-22 grams per scoop (more is fine)

Under 130 lbs use one scoop

131-180 use two scoops

>181 use three scooops

Thanks Natasha.

Stevie Renee 09-14-2009 03:00 PM

Decisions, decisions...I am on the fence. I restarted Lean for Life because I know its plan so well. But on the other hand, I have big fall goals. I am leaning on trying this.

But I am nervous about two weeks of shakes. I am afraid I will just fail trying to drink shakes for two weeks.

Anyone else concerned?

Louise_1967 09-15-2009 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGJ26 (Post 12477744)
I have the book and it is 3 shakes and 1 Meal.

The shakes are basic:

1-3 scoops WHEY POWDER (based on your current weight)
2 TBLS HWC or Coconut Milk
3/4 cup water & ice


Optional but recommended additions:

1 egg
1 tsp DAG oil (Enova)
2500 mg D-Ribose
2500 mg Leucine

Hi, does it say when to have the shakes and the real meal or does it matter?

Louise_1967 09-15-2009 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevie Renee (Post 12478917)
Thanks...how many scoops for 160 pounds?



sorry but what is hwc?

Louise_1967 09-15-2009 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homestretch (Post 12474711)
Just thought I would start a thread to discuss the new book. I have ordered it and am waiting for it to arrive. Anyone who wants to share links or information can do it here. Many of us are waiting for our books so if anyone wants to share what to eat the first two weeks until our books get here it would be welcome.

Here is the link to a great interview with the Eades from Jimmy Moore's website (this is the MP3 download that you can listen to on your computer): http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/s...-the-eades.mp3

I am thinking of trying this also. Going south in 6 weeks so the timing is perfect!

Tirjasdyn 09-15-2009 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louise_1967 (Post 12482514)
Hi, does it say when to have the shakes and the real meal or does it matter?


They say to have the shakes to substitute for any two meals and a snack. So if one day you wanted to have eggs for breakfast, you'd have a shake at lunch and dinner.

Louise_1967 09-15-2009 08:52 AM

ty!:clap:

Tirjasdyn 09-15-2009 09:01 AM

Okay, though I had a shake last night...today is the official start. I grew up with a father that had a shake every morning for breakfast (still does), eats meat for lunch and dinner. He's as thin as whip. He's been on his children for years to switch to shakes but he uses the nastiest tasting powder around. I hate pre-made shakes and never had luck with them.

Still I'm giving this a go. I like moderated control (make your own but told what to do).

Some tips:

Pre make the the base:
From my years as a soda jerk...base is good! Take a jug that you can shake and add the water content (sans ice) and protein powder for the week. Shake well. Make one batch chocolate and one batch vanilla. Add your supplements to the base (NOT OIL ONES) if you are using those.

Now you can pour it, add flavor, fruit etc, and your heavy whipping cream at will.

Freeze your Shake: Make any of the shake flavors and freeze. Ice cream for after dinner snack!

Tirjasdyn 09-15-2009 10:56 AM

Drinking my second shake of the day now.

Added vanilla DaVinci's to this plus cinnamon and nutmeg.

NGJ26 09-15-2009 11:05 AM

Tirjasdyn~ Thanks for the base idea, in the morning I'm making shakes for me (3) for the day and one for DBF for his brekkie.


Louise_1967~ It will be great if you join us the more the merrier.

I'm not sure if I was clear here ( probably because I wasn't so sure myself :blush:)but I am starting at Week 0, this is the week they mention in the book, for those of us with a big caffeine habit. It suits two purposes for me, it helps me kick the caffeine habit (which really hasn't been bad at all, so far)and gives me time to get my "ducks in a row", i.e. menus, groceries, etc.

I blabbed on a bit about my first day, on my blog~ but I just went there and all my hard work is gone :stars: :cry:..

Laura in Arizona 09-15-2009 03:48 PM

I bought the book, I love the Eades. I have not measured yet to figure out how much visceral vs subq fat I have but will. I am going camping next week so plan on starting when I get back and get the groceries together. A lot of those recipes sound really good. I like how it is divided into 3 two week sessions. I can do anything for just 2 weeks. Looking forward to hearing about everyone's progress. I wish I could start now!

NGJ26 09-16-2009 05:48 AM

Yesterday was an success
 
OK OK, I've been know to fall for the "placebo" effect, but I swear I am waayy less bloated (maybe caffeine IS my secret enemy :cry:) but this a.m. I put on a shirt that I refused to wear 2 weeks ago because it showed every bulge, today it hangs nicely :clap:... Gosh, I wished I measured already. I do have some pretty recent measurements so maybe I can compare to those.


I followed my plan yesterday, adding in a snack of 3 chicken drummettes and 1.5 ounces of cheese (Monterey Jack plus Salsa- by The Cheese Shop- To die for). I don't think I would have needed a snack if I had added the egg and enova to my 2nd & 3rd shakes. The protein powder I use has virtually no fat in it... I did not make the same mistake today :D

How's everybody else doing?


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