I don't care if I get thrown off this site

didi · 12-03-2008, 07:54 PM

I just learned that people on this board are injecting themselves with a pregnancy hormone...injecting with anything is just WRONG to lose a couple of extra pounds. Hormones are nothing to fool around with, no matter who publishes a book about it.

500 calories a day this is not an anorexia site, so why is this here? I am so beside myself! I have been on this site for over a year and I guess I have been in the dark.

Let's get real people and just be kind to our bodies!

Houston Heather · 12-03-2008, 07:58 PM

Huh?

I'm not doing that, I eat over 2K calories a day. I have NEVER heard anyone mention that stuff.

The only person who did the very low cal was Kimmer. She's long gone, AND she's being sued.

Magicsmom · 12-03-2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houston Heather

Huh?

I'm not doing that, I eat over 2K calories a day. I have NEVER heard anyone mention that stuff.

The only person who did the very low cal was Kimmer. She's long gone, AND she's being sued.

Correction: Kimmer never did VLC, she just expected the rest of us to do ti.

Kensbev · 12-03-2008, 08:01 PM

I've never heard of anything like that on this site. Can you give us a link? Maybe report it to the mods. I'd think they'd want to remove any post that encourages unhealthy stuff like that.

KOO · 12-03-2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houston Heather

Huh?

I'm not doing that, I eat over 2K calories a day. I have NEVER heard anyone mention that stuff.

The only person who did the very low cal was Kimmer. She's long gone, AND she's being sued.

She is referring to the HCG thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Correction: Kimmer never did VLC, she just expected the rest of us to do ti.

So true!

Houston Heather · 12-03-2008, 08:07 PM

Shows what I know!

I would have liked her a LOT in my teen years, not so much now that I actually care about my health.

I feel bad for the OP, she's so outraged. We're an assorted bunch of goofballs but we care about each other's health.

lippi · 12-03-2008, 08:08 PM

What's HCG?

KOO · 12-03-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lippi

What's HCG?

It is the hormone that they measure the level of when pregnant. It is what the early pregnancy tests are looking for.

Kensbev · 12-03-2008, 08:12 PM

I just reported that crap. I'm appalled. If LCF doesn't remove it, then I'll be removing myself.

KOO · 12-03-2008, 08:15 PM

The thread on it has been running since July of 2007. I think they would be aware don't you? It's not something I would do but if it works for others that is their business.

Kensbev · 12-03-2008, 08:16 PM

I don't want to be part of any site that is promoting/sanctioning a Kimkins-type diet.

didi · 12-03-2008, 08:19 PM

Yes, it is HCG. Am I totally crazy? I read the first few pages, and then the most recent. Why on earth would people do this, some even say that they gained weight. And at 500 cal a day!

So what is the attraction? Are people that desperate that they ignore the low carb, good health info? Looking for a quicker fix?

If you were told ingesting kerosene would help you lose weight quicker, would you do it?

UtahMama · 12-03-2008, 08:21 PM

I've done a lot of diet plans in my day, but I can't imagine getting hormone shots to lose weight. I saw an ad on the internet for something very similar to this and you have to get a daily hormonal shot and eat 500 calories a day! I think my metabolism would be completely messed up within a week. Also, I don't think you would need a shot. If you eat 500 calories a day of course you will lose weight! Unfortunately, your body goes into starvation mode and as soon as you up the calories the weight comes back!

I think it comes down to people just being desperate to lose weight as quickly as possible! I'm a very slow loser so I can understand the temptation to find a quicker way. Hugs to anyone struggling.

Houston Heather · 12-03-2008, 08:25 PM

I'm shocked to hear it is legal.

Maybe they should hang out with some profoundly disabled people or an ICU for a while, make them grateful for a healthy body. They wouldn't be so quick to disrespect it if they could actually appreciate what they've got.

I decided years ago that my health was #1. If that meant I'd always be a little fat, so be it.

So far I'm getting the weight loss AND the health.

I feel sorry for them. They won't know what they're throwing away until it's gone.

NOTHING is worth damaging your health. Nothing.

I know, look at my avatar. He's in a wheelchair.

Salster14 · 12-03-2008, 08:26 PM

Kensbev: It's just a small group of people compared to the thousands of people on this site, I followed up on it and they are playing with their health. If I am not mistaken you can't even get it legally in the U.S. Wouldn't you kind of worry about injecting something from another country? Better to ignore....Lots of good people and info you would miss (and we would miss from you) if you left.

Nikouli · 12-03-2008, 08:26 PM

she is talking about that hcg diet thingy....

Houston Heather · 12-03-2008, 08:28 PM

Yeah. I'm just amazed anyone would risk their health.

A healthy body is a priceless treasure. You can't buy one for anything.

wishbone · 12-03-2008, 08:52 PM

i am pretty sure you can get it this country. the paper where i live just ran a BIG ARTICLE on the front page of one of the sunday sections promoting this. it was even endorsed by a local doctor who practices medicine here. who was shown with his befor and after pics, stating....i had to know that this diet would work befor i encouraged any one to try it. i could not believe what i was reading.

jan

wishbone · 12-03-2008, 08:56 PM

Oh Baby: OB GYN offers up weight loss secret
Story1 comment(s)By Bruce Miller Journal staff writer | Posted: Monday, December 01, 2008
If someone said you could lose two pounds a day without exercising you'd be curious, right?

You'd also think the plan was too good to be true.

"You'd think it was a cheater's way of losing weight," says Dr. Ed Hagen, a Sioux City obstetrician.

But Hagen had heard about just such a diet while he was in California at a medical seminar and decided to investigate.

For himself.

"I was 47 years old. I weighed 240 pounds and I couldn't get the weight off," he says. "I tried running and swimming. But as we get older our metabolism actually slows down. I could look at food and put on weight."

The diet -- which has been around for more than 40 years -- lasts at least 21 days and requires the use of HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin), a hormone found in higher levels in pregnant women. "It's the hormone that mobilizes fat," Hagen says. "So when a woman is pregnant, she doesn't feed her baby breakfast, lunch and dinner. She feeds the baby 24/7."

The rub? Along with that hormone, dieters eat only 500 calories a day. Those 500 calories can't come from a candy bar and a soda, either. They've got to be chosen from a select menu, spread over the course of a day.

"If you do a starvation diet without the hormone, your body will go into defense mode and hold on to things," Hagen says. "If we just gave you the hormone, you wouldn't lose weight, either. It's the combination of the two that makes it work."

Before sharing the diet with a patient, Hagen decided to try it himself.

He took the hormone twice a day, drank 10 glasses of water and ate things like steak, lettuce and apples for 21 days.

"I had two bad days," he says. "Days Four and Five of the diet, I just wanted to jump. But you fight through it, you get up and weigh yourself and you've lost three pounds. That's an automatic reward."

Today, he's nearly 40 pounds lighter. He's not restricted to 500 calories a day and he's determined to get down to 190 pounds. His waistline? It's four inches smaller.

Better yet? "I'm off two blood pressure medicines and I've got a lot of energy."

Too good to be true?

That's what Rhonda Wittkop thought when she heard about Hagen's diet.

A nurse in Storm Lake, Iowa, she was convinced it was crazy. Still, "I tried Weight Watchers, the soup diet, starvation, TOPS -- you name it," she says. "It has been a lifelong struggle."

Aug. 14, Wittkop saw pictures of herself on a Harley and said, "That's it. I've got to do something."

She went to Hagen and asked all the questions most have -- Is it safe? How does it work? Am I just going to gain the weight back? How do I stick with it? Plus she did research on the Internet.

"I wanted to make sure I wasn't spending my money on something crazy."

At $600 (for the hormone and diet counseling), the "miracle" wasn't cheap. "But I had turned 50 and wanted to get started on a new way of life. Spending the money was an incentive to keep me on it."

Like Hagen, Wittkop knew there were landmines in the diet landscape. Cheat -- even a little -- and weight loss wouldn't happen. Try to cook daily "and you're probably going to fail."

The secret: Make your meals ahead of time, pack a lunch and stick with it.

In the morning, Wittkop says, she'd take the hormone (it's now in liquid form and it's placed under the tongue for a minute), get ready for work and, yup, skip breakfast -- that's one of the quirks. Then, midmorning, she'd have a snack (apples or strawberries are fine). For lunch she'd have 100 grams of meat and 3 1/2 ounces of fresh vegetables. In the afternoon, she'd get another snack and at night, she'd have another dose of the hormone, another 100 grams of meat and another 3 1/2 ounces of vegetables. Each day, she'd drink at least two liters of water.

"You urinate a lot," Hagen says. "But you don't poop because you're burning stored fat."

Strangely, patients have lots of energy.

Wittkop realized she was a "mindless eater" -- someone who grazed just to keep her occupied. When she went on the diet, she put the energy into art. She makes fused glass jewelry and "stayed busy. I had that outlet...and you need that."

She wasn't tired, either, and she didn't feel hungry.

Like Hagen, she weighed herself daily. She saw the pounds drop and noticed she wasn't snoring as much at night. "I felt better. I went shopping and I realized I was standing a little taller because I felt good about myself."

She was on the diet for 30 days, then went on a three-day transition course (no HCG, but still a 500-calorie diet). "Then, you go on to watch your carbohydrates."

Like Hagen -- she charted impressive results. She lost 47 pounds and went from a size 18 to a size 10.

Gradually, she went back to a "regular" diet but realized something else had changed -- her mindset. "It becomes a case of mind over matter," she says. "You don't have the cravings you used to. Before, I could sit down and eat a whole cheesecake. I could eat nachos and chips -- I was just fueling that depression. But once you lose the weight, you want to keep it off. I've had some nacho chips (since the diet) and realized they're too salty. I don't need all those."

Better yet, Wittkop has resolved to exercise and lose even more weight. She eats cheesecake now -- "but two bites. I know I don't need the whole thing."

Likewise, Hagen. He used to eat eight slices of pizza at one meal. Now, he feels full after two.

In his "heavy" days, he wore scrubs because they were comfortable and forgiving. Now, he wears 36-inch pants and doesn't have to hold his breath just to put them on. "I didn't have to buy new clothes. I had a whole closet full that finally fit me."

Side effects? There are none, the two say, even though it sounds odd to be taking hormones.

Difficult? It can be if you don't want to play by the rules.

Rewarding? You bet.

"It can be a huge jump start," Hagen says. "Before I went on this, I couldn't run. My feet and my knees hurt because I was so heavy. Now, I feel great."

The trick? "You've got to change your lifestyle," he says. "Once you lose the weight, you realize you don't want to go back there. More than anything, it changes your thinking."

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jan

wishbone · 12-03-2008, 08:57 PM

can't hardly believe an obgyn would endorse this

Strawberry · 12-03-2008, 09:01 PM

Has it occurred to anyone that the first couple months of pregnany are typically marked by weight GAIN ? Not weight loss.

Of course, I could sell you anything + only 500 cals/day and you would "magically" lose weight.

By the way, I would love to know what the source is of this stuff? Human blood or urine? Manufactured synthetically in a lab? On sale from China?

tammay · 12-03-2008, 09:05 PM

Let us hope that the FDA or some other governmental body will step in and make it illegal for real, although I highly doubt it (their record, as we know, has not been very good in the past, especially with so many "yes" men from the companies that promote such crap on their boards...)

I took a peek at the thread and couldn't help but laugh (in outrage, like didi). Someone posted a video on how to inject the thing, like some drug addict telling others how to use.

The most absurd thing is that if you do low carb and stick with it (which we all know it's hard to do as long as you're doing it right and getting the necessary fats and veggies and protein), you don't need to be at 500 cal or do that kind of crap - you stay healthy and lose weight without much effort...

Tam

mykneesareback · 12-03-2008, 09:12 PM

I would bet, if you posted on here that eating little dried balls of chicken manure would make a person lose weight, you could sell bags of the stuff right away!!! The weight loss industry isn't a Billion dollar industry for nothing, always has been. There is a sucker born every minute, and quite a few of them come to sites like these. That's just the ways of the world.

warriorscholar · 12-03-2008, 09:33 PM

Absurd.

SugarPop · 12-03-2008, 10:12 PM

Personally, I don't see why everyone is so upset. People are on here that have done Weight Loss Surgery and nobody seems offended by that, so why this?

I say to each his own...............I don't find this offensive at all. If it has helped some people to get their lives back on track - then good for them.

B

Nikouli · 12-03-2008, 10:23 PM

weight loss sugery is a little diff than injecting yourself with some hormone....

VanjaJames · 12-03-2008, 11:07 PM

The diet has been around since the 60s.
How it works is that your body doesn't actually only "consume" 500 cals a day - it uses up an extra 1500-2000 calories (per day) of your own body fat by injecting this hormone.

They also used it in the 70s to help fat boys loose their man boobs.

I say that daily injections are way safer than surgery that is offered for gynecomastia - which is extremely expensive and involves anesthesia, which we all know, can kill you.

Injecting into your muscles is way different than injecting into a vein also - I inject vitamin b12 a couple times a month, and as long as you know what you're doing, its easy.

Plus, think of all the prescription diet pills out there that damage the heart. At least we know this doesn't cause cardiac damage.

V

Danceruk · 12-04-2008, 01:11 AM

Each to their own. This is why there are seperate forums. Lots of different approaches ranging from Atkins to stillmans.. vary in their approaches to fat/calories.

The areas are for dedicated discussion of using that approach- IE. It isnt in the main lobby being promoted as being "mainstream" or otherwise.

Stillmans is pretty extreme but for me its simple and easy to follow(within my budget). I keep in the subsection as far as discussing it, so it dosent bother anyone else. Same with HCG or any other approach.

Different things work for diffent people for sure.

suzanneyea · 12-04-2008, 02:24 AM

People get crazy when they are desperate. Look at what people will do: surgery, diet pills, anything. I cannot imagine voluntarily have a major operation, but people do it everyday. I threw up my food for years, I bet a lot of people, myself included, are disgusted by that. I was desperate. People are willing to risk pooping their pants if a weight loss drug will work.
I am so happy I found LC, I can now eat and be happy and healthy. I hope the rest of the people who suffer find a healthy solution.

luckylychee · 12-04-2008, 03:10 AM

Are we all upset because we are hearing about a new way to lose weight that's unconventional and doesn't make sense to us?

Don't you remember when atkins hit the air and everybody's jaw dropped at the thought of eating fat to lose weight?

I'm not saying that this is safe or effective, but come on, can't we drop the holier than thou attitude sometimes?

12-03-2008, 08:21 PM	#13
UtahMama Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 265 Gallery: UtahMama Stats: 6' tall, 38 years old WOE: low carb Start Date: 1/15/98. Restarted 11/11/08	I've done a lot of diet plans in my day, but I can't imagine getting hormone shots to lose weight. I saw an ad on the internet for something very similar to this and you have to get a daily hormonal shot and eat 500 calories a day! I think my metabolism would be completely messed up within a week. Also, I don't think you would need a shot. If you eat 500 calories a day of course you will lose weight! Unfortunately, your body goes into starvation mode and as soon as you up the calories the weight comes back! I think it comes down to people just being desperate to lose weight as quickly as possible! I'm a very slow loser so I can understand the temptation to find a quicker way. Hugs to anyone struggling. __________________ "If I had been around when Rubens was painting, I would have been revered as a fabulous model. Kate Moss? Well, she would have been the paintbrush." ~Dawn French

12-03-2008, 08:25 PM	#14
Houston Heather Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 7,434 Gallery: Houston Heather Stats: 228/167/150 WOE: Atkins 2002 Ongoing Weight Loss Start Date: Feb 26, 2008 (second and last time)	I'm shocked to hear it is legal. Maybe they should hang out with some profoundly disabled people or an ICU for a while, make them grateful for a healthy body. They wouldn't be so quick to disrespect it if they could actually appreciate what they've got. I decided years ago that my health was #1. If that meant I'd always be a little fat, so be it. So far I'm getting the weight loss AND the health. I feel sorry for them. They won't know what they're throwing away until it's gone. NOTHING is worth damaging your health. Nothing. I know, look at my avatar. He's in a wheelchair. __________________ Don't just weigh, measure too! "From the beginning, you have made a refreshing jug of lemonade from all the lemons that life pitched your way. " - Zer "It's the fight against impossible odds that puts iron into our souls" - Ruth Stout Learn about Bipolar Disorder Learn about Fetal Alcohol Syndrome I have tested thee in the furnace of affliction - Isaiah 48:10 Perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed 2 Cor. 4:9

12-03-2008, 08:26 PM	#15
Salster14 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 60 Gallery: Salster14 Stats: 186/179/130 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 12/1/08	Kensbev: It's just a small group of people compared to the thousands of people on this site, I followed up on it and they are playing with their health. If I am not mistaken you can't even get it legally in the U.S. Wouldn't you kind of worry about injecting something from another country? Better to ignore....Lots of good people and info you would miss (and we would miss from you) if you left. Last edited by Salster14 : 12-03-2008 at 08:28 PM.

12-03-2008, 08:56 PM	#19
wishbone Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 817 Gallery: wishbone Stats: 260/158/160 WOE: low carb my weigh	Oh Baby: OB GYN offers up weight loss secret Story1 comment(s)By Bruce Miller Journal staff writer \| Posted: Monday, December 01, 2008 If someone said you could lose two pounds a day without exercising you'd be curious, right? You'd also think the plan was too good to be true. "You'd think it was a cheater's way of losing weight," says Dr. Ed Hagen, a Sioux City obstetrician. But Hagen had heard about just such a diet while he was in California at a medical seminar and decided to investigate. For himself. "I was 47 years old. I weighed 240 pounds and I couldn't get the weight off," he says. "I tried running and swimming. But as we get older our metabolism actually slows down. I could look at food and put on weight." The diet -- which has been around for more than 40 years -- lasts at least 21 days and requires the use of HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin), a hormone found in higher levels in pregnant women. "It's the hormone that mobilizes fat," Hagen says. "So when a woman is pregnant, she doesn't feed her baby breakfast, lunch and dinner. She feeds the baby 24/7." The rub? Along with that hormone, dieters eat only 500 calories a day. Those 500 calories can't come from a candy bar and a soda, either. They've got to be chosen from a select menu, spread over the course of a day. "If you do a starvation diet without the hormone, your body will go into defense mode and hold on to things," Hagen says. "If we just gave you the hormone, you wouldn't lose weight, either. It's the combination of the two that makes it work." Before sharing the diet with a patient, Hagen decided to try it himself. He took the hormone twice a day, drank 10 glasses of water and ate things like steak, lettuce and apples for 21 days. "I had two bad days," he says. "Days Four and Five of the diet, I just wanted to jump. But you fight through it, you get up and weigh yourself and you've lost three pounds. That's an automatic reward." Today, he's nearly 40 pounds lighter. He's not restricted to 500 calories a day and he's determined to get down to 190 pounds. His waistline? It's four inches smaller. Better yet? "I'm off two blood pressure medicines and I've got a lot of energy." Too good to be true? That's what Rhonda Wittkop thought when she heard about Hagen's diet. A nurse in Storm Lake, Iowa, she was convinced it was crazy. Still, "I tried Weight Watchers, the soup diet, starvation, TOPS -- you name it," she says. "It has been a lifelong struggle." Aug. 14, Wittkop saw pictures of herself on a Harley and said, "That's it. I've got to do something." She went to Hagen and asked all the questions most have -- Is it safe? How does it work? Am I just going to gain the weight back? How do I stick with it? Plus she did research on the Internet. "I wanted to make sure I wasn't spending my money on something crazy." At $600 (for the hormone and diet counseling), the "miracle" wasn't cheap. "But I had turned 50 and wanted to get started on a new way of life. Spending the money was an incentive to keep me on it." Like Hagen, Wittkop knew there were landmines in the diet landscape. Cheat -- even a little -- and weight loss wouldn't happen. Try to cook daily "and you're probably going to fail." The secret: Make your meals ahead of time, pack a lunch and stick with it. In the morning, Wittkop says, she'd take the hormone (it's now in liquid form and it's placed under the tongue for a minute), get ready for work and, yup, skip breakfast -- that's one of the quirks. Then, midmorning, she'd have a snack (apples or strawberries are fine). For lunch she'd have 100 grams of meat and 3 1/2 ounces of fresh vegetables. In the afternoon, she'd get another snack and at night, she'd have another dose of the hormone, another 100 grams of meat and another 3 1/2 ounces of vegetables. Each day, she'd drink at least two liters of water. "You urinate a lot," Hagen says. "But you don't poop because you're burning stored fat." Strangely, patients have lots of energy. Wittkop realized she was a "mindless eater" -- someone who grazed just to keep her occupied. When she went on the diet, she put the energy into art. She makes fused glass jewelry and "stayed busy. I had that outlet...and you need that." She wasn't tired, either, and she didn't feel hungry. Like Hagen, she weighed herself daily. She saw the pounds drop and noticed she wasn't snoring as much at night. "I felt better. I went shopping and I realized I was standing a little taller because I felt good about myself." She was on the diet for 30 days, then went on a three-day transition course (no HCG, but still a 500-calorie diet). "Then, you go on to watch your carbohydrates." Like Hagen -- she charted impressive results. She lost 47 pounds and went from a size 18 to a size 10. Gradually, she went back to a "regular" diet but realized something else had changed -- her mindset. "It becomes a case of mind over matter," she says. "You don't have the cravings you used to. Before, I could sit down and eat a whole cheesecake. I could eat nachos and chips -- I was just fueling that depression. But once you lose the weight, you want to keep it off. I've had some nacho chips (since the diet) and realized they're too salty. I don't need all those." Better yet, Wittkop has resolved to exercise and lose even more weight. She eats cheesecake now -- "but two bites. I know I don't need the whole thing." Likewise, Hagen. He used to eat eight slices of pizza at one meal. Now, he feels full after two. In his "heavy" days, he wore scrubs because they were comfortable and forgiving. Now, he wears 36-inch pants and doesn't have to hold his breath just to put them on. "I didn't have to buy new clothes. I had a whole closet full that finally fit me." Side effects? There are none, the two say, even though it sounds odd to be taking hormones. Difficult? It can be if you don't want to play by the rules. Rewarding? You bet. "It can be a huge jump start," Hagen says. "Before I went on this, I couldn't run. My feet and my knees hurt because I was so heavy. Now, I feel great." The trick? "You've got to change your lifestyle," he says. "Once you lose the weight, you realize you don't want to go back there. More than anything, it changes your thinking." Email Print this is the article i was refering to jan __________________ come visit me at www.ickeynickel.com

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12-03-2008, 07:54 PM	#1
didi Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 369 Gallery: didi Start Date: October 2007	I don't care if I get thrown off this site I just learned that people on this board are injecting themselves with a pregnancy hormone...injecting with anything is just WRONG to lose a couple of extra pounds. Hormones are nothing to fool around with, no matter who publishes a book about it. 500 calories a day this is not an anorexia site, so why is this here? I am so beside myself! I have been on this site for over a year and I guess I have been in the dark. Let's get real people and just be kind to our bodies!

12-03-2008, 07:58 PM	#2
Houston Heather Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 7,434 Gallery: Houston Heather Stats: 228/167/150 WOE: Atkins 2002 Ongoing Weight Loss Start Date: Feb 26, 2008 (second and last time)	Huh? I'm not doing that, I eat over 2K calories a day. I have NEVER heard anyone mention that stuff. The only person who did the very low cal was Kimmer. She's long gone, AND she's being sued.

12-03-2008, 08:01 PM	#4
Kensbev Guest Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Near Atlanta Posts: 536 Gallery: Kensbev Stats: 155/133/? WOE: Atkins Start Date: 10/1/2008	I've never heard of anything like that on this site. Can you give us a link? Maybe report it to the mods. I'd think they'd want to remove any post that encourages unhealthy stuff like that.

12-03-2008, 08:07 PM	#6
Houston Heather Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 7,434 Gallery: Houston Heather Stats: 228/167/150 WOE: Atkins 2002 Ongoing Weight Loss Start Date: Feb 26, 2008 (second and last time)	Shows what I know! I would have liked her a LOT in my teen years, not so much now that I actually care about my health. I feel bad for the OP, she's so outraged. We're an assorted bunch of goofballs but we care about each other's health.

12-03-2008, 08:08 PM	#7
lippi Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: massachusetts Posts: 4,375 Gallery: lippi Stats: stretch pants 24/18 jeans/8 WOE: chew with mouth closed, swallow Start Date: november 2006	What's HCG?

12-03-2008, 08:12 PM	#9
Kensbev Guest Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Near Atlanta Posts: 536 Gallery: Kensbev Stats: 155/133/? WOE: Atkins Start Date: 10/1/2008	I just reported that crap. I'm appalled. If LCF doesn't remove it, then I'll be removing myself.

12-03-2008, 08:15 PM	#10
KOO Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11,793 Gallery: KOO Stats: Starting 183(2/06)..Now 148..First goal 140...TBD	The thread on it has been running since July of 2007. I think they would be aware don't you? It's not something I would do but if it works for others that is their business.

12-03-2008, 08:16 PM	#11
Kensbev Guest Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Near Atlanta Posts: 536 Gallery: Kensbev Stats: 155/133/? WOE: Atkins Start Date: 10/1/2008	I don't want to be part of any site that is promoting/sanctioning a Kimkins-type diet.

12-03-2008, 08:19 PM	#12
didi Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 369 Gallery: didi Start Date: October 2007	Yes, it is HCG. Am I totally crazy? I read the first few pages, and then the most recent. Why on earth would people do this, some even say that they gained weight. And at 500 cal a day! So what is the attraction? Are people that desperate that they ignore the low carb, good health info? Looking for a quicker fix? If you were told ingesting kerosene would help you lose weight quicker, would you do it?

12-03-2008, 08:26 PM	#16
Nikouli MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,011 Gallery: Nikouli Stats: 5'5" 174+/151/130 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 5/29/08	she is talking about that hcg diet thingy....

12-03-2008, 08:28 PM	#17
Houston Heather Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 7,434 Gallery: Houston Heather Stats: 228/167/150 WOE: Atkins 2002 Ongoing Weight Loss Start Date: Feb 26, 2008 (second and last time)	Yeah. I'm just amazed anyone would risk their health. A healthy body is a priceless treasure. You can't buy one for anything.

12-03-2008, 08:52 PM	#18
wishbone Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 817 Gallery: wishbone Stats: 260/158/160 WOE: low carb my weigh	i am pretty sure you can get it this country. the paper where i live just ran a BIG ARTICLE on the front page of one of the sunday sections promoting this. it was even endorsed by a local doctor who practices medicine here. who was shown with his befor and after pics, stating....i had to know that this diet would work befor i encouraged any one to try it. i could not believe what i was reading. jan

12-03-2008, 08:57 PM	#20
wishbone Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 817 Gallery: wishbone Stats: 260/158/160 WOE: low carb my weigh	can't hardly believe an obgyn would endorse this

12-03-2008, 09:01 PM	#21
Strawberry MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,951 Gallery: Strawberry	Has it occurred to anyone that the first couple months of pregnany are typically marked by weight GAIN ? Not weight loss. Of course, I could sell you anything + only 500 cals/day and you would "magically" lose weight. By the way, I would love to know what the source is of this stuff? Human blood or urine? Manufactured synthetically in a lab? On sale from China?

12-03-2008, 09:05 PM	#22
tammay Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Southwest Texas Posts: 909 Blog Entries: 33 Gallery: tammay Stats: 153/146/120 WOE: Lowcarb Vegetarian (my own) Start Date: Jan 2002 (restarted: 2/1/09)	Let us hope that the FDA or some other governmental body will step in and make it illegal for real, although I highly doubt it (their record, as we know, has not been very good in the past, especially with so many "yes" men from the companies that promote such crap on their boards...) I took a peek at the thread and couldn't help but laugh (in outrage, like didi). Someone posted a video on how to inject the thing, like some drug addict telling others how to use. The most absurd thing is that if you do low carb and stick with it (which we all know it's hard to do as long as you're doing it right and getting the necessary fats and veggies and protein), you don't need to be at 500 cal or do that kind of crap - you stay healthy and lose weight without much effort... Tam

12-03-2008, 09:12 PM	#23
mykneesareback Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Calif. mountains Posts: 10,187 Gallery: mykneesareback Stats: 234/125-130 WOE: Counting Calories, like the "old" days Start Date: March 1, 2004 w/dietitian,doctor	I would bet, if you posted on here that eating little dried balls of chicken manure would make a person lose weight, you could sell bags of the stuff right away!!! The weight loss industry isn't a Billion dollar industry for nothing, always has been. There is a sucker born every minute, and quite a few of them come to sites like these. That's just the ways of the world.

12-03-2008, 09:33 PM	#24
warriorscholar MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 1,076 Gallery: warriorscholar Stats: 355/294/205 6' 2" WOE: DANDR Start Date: July 1st 2007	Absurd.

12-03-2008, 10:12 PM	#25
SugarPop Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 961 Gallery: SugarPop Stats: (225) 212/190.5/125 WOE: Atkins/ LowCarb - Restart 6/1/09 Start Date: Quit Smoking 1/1/09	Personally, I don't see why everyone is so upset. People are on here that have done Weight Loss Surgery and nobody seems offended by that, so why this? I say to each his own...............I don't find this offensive at all. If it has helped some people to get their lives back on track - then good for them. B

12-03-2008, 10:23 PM	#26
Nikouli MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,011 Gallery: Nikouli Stats: 5'5" 174+/151/130 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 5/29/08	weight loss sugery is a little diff than injecting yourself with some hormone....

12-03-2008, 11:07 PM	#27
VanjaJames Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 578 Gallery: VanjaJames Stats: 150/130/125 5'5'' WOE: Spartan Diet, MEVY/Candida diet Start Date: 10/2008	The diet has been around since the 60s. How it works is that your body doesn't actually only "consume" 500 cals a day - it uses up an extra 1500-2000 calories (per day) of your own body fat by injecting this hormone. They also used it in the 70s to help fat boys loose their man boobs. I say that daily injections are way safer than surgery that is offered for gynecomastia - which is extremely expensive and involves anesthesia, which we all know, can kill you. Injecting into your muscles is way different than injecting into a vein also - I inject vitamin b12 a couple times a month, and as long as you know what you're doing, its easy. Plus, think of all the prescription diet pills out there that damage the heart. At least we know this doesn't cause cardiac damage. V

12-04-2008, 01:11 AM	#28
Danceruk Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London/Norfolk Posts: 685 Gallery: Danceruk Stats: at goal WOE: raw vegan P3 HCG Start Date: Atkins August 2008 down 45lb/VLC 2009	Each to their own. This is why there are seperate forums. Lots of different approaches ranging from Atkins to stillmans.. vary in their approaches to fat/calories. The areas are for dedicated discussion of using that approach- IE. It isnt in the main lobby being promoted as being "mainstream" or otherwise. Stillmans is pretty extreme but for me its simple and easy to follow(within my budget). I keep in the subsection as far as discussing it, so it dosent bother anyone else. Same with HCG or any other approach. Different things work for diffent people for sure.

12-04-2008, 02:24 AM	#29
suzanneyea MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Quebec Posts: 2,667 Blog Entries: 3 Gallery: suzanneyea Stats: 110 WOE: zer carb	People get crazy when they are desperate. Look at what people will do: surgery, diet pills, anything. I cannot imagine voluntarily have a major operation, but people do it everyday. I threw up my food for years, I bet a lot of people, myself included, are disgusted by that. I was desperate. People are willing to risk pooping their pants if a weight loss drug will work. I am so happy I found LC, I can now eat and be happy and healthy. I hope the rest of the people who suffer find a healthy solution.

12-04-2008, 03:10 AM	#30
luckylychee Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Luxembourg! Posts: 5,284 Gallery: luckylychee Stats: 89 kilos/76.2 kilos/61.2 kilos WOE: Low carb, BRING ON THE FAT Start Date: March 10, 2007	Are we all upset because we are hearing about a new way to lose weight that's unconventional and doesn't make sense to us? Don't you remember when atkins hit the air and everybody's jaw dropped at the thought of eating fat to lose weight? I'm not saying that this is safe or effective, but come on, can't we drop the holier than thou attitude sometimes?