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Old 12-13-2008, 08:21 PM   #151
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Be safe everyone

And from Kevin Trudeau's book...science has proven that the people on 500 calorie diets with out the shots lost the SAME amount of weight.Why is this diet allowed but not Kimkins?
Yes, someone did a double-blind study. One group was on HCG and 500 calories, the other group was on a placebo and 500 calories. People in both groups did lose about the same amount of weight, however the kicker is that only 10% of the people on the placebo actually completed the course because they were starving the entire time and most of them gave up. 80% of the people on HCG completed, they did not have the hunger and cravings. And it has been proven that those on the HCG lost fat and gained lean muscle. Those on the placebo lost some fat, but mostly lean muscle.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:07 AM   #152
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And from Kevin Trudeau's book...science has proven that the people on 500 calorie diets with out the shots lost the SAME amount of weight.Why is this diet allowed but not Kimkins?
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Probably because on this plan (protocal), your body is also grabbing another 2,000 calories to use daily?!

I don't like Kevin Trudeau one bit but [COLOR=red]you can't judge this plan by him[/COLOR] because it was around way before he came on scene. He's a thief.

Actually, Ms. Diaz (aka Kimmer) used the very same theory on her "diet" as well, without having to take an injections.


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Well meaning folks sometimes delude themselves into thinking they need that tired "1200 calorie minimum" to avoid starvation mode when dieting.

Of course this is ridiculous.

If you have excess body fat you've got literally thousands of calories of "food" waiting to be used. Want a number? Figure your body fat in pounds, multiply by 3500 and that's how much "food" you've got on hand.

Let's say 50 lbs to lose, x 3500 = 175,000 "food" calories just hanging there. Does the huge number make you whoozy?

...

When people "Ask Kimmer" about very low calorie diets, they usually wonder if their bodies will "stop losing" due to starvation mode. Absolutely not. Why? Because your body will always need more than 500-1000 calories to sustain whatever weight you're at.




As an example, I'm going to use a 5'4", 250 lb woman who's had gastric surgery for weight loss. Her doctor has prescribed 500 calories a day and since she's sedentary we'll use a 10X metabolism multiplier. 500 and 10X were picked to make the math easier:
  • Weigh 250, need 2500 cal, eat 500, takes 2000 cal from body fat
  • Weigh 200, need 2000 cal, eat 500, takes 1500 cal from body fat
  • Weigh 150, need 1500 cal, eat 500, takes 1000 cal from body fat
  • Weigh 125, need 1250 cal, eat 500, takes 750 cal from body fat

Scary stuff, though, encouraging your body to cannibalize itself. And just how does your body KNOW to take it from fat, and not muscle?

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Old 12-14-2008, 08:33 AM   #153
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Personally, I don't see why everyone is so upset. People are on here that have done Weight Loss Surgery and nobody seems offended by that, so why this?

I say to each his own...............I don't find this offensive at all. If it has helped some people to get their lives back on track - then good for them.

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I'm new here and on HCG so I just had to comment on this thread!! lol...jumping headfirst into the drama.. so unlike me!


And my doctor is the one providing me with my injections; many doctors prescribe it - its just not something that people order from oversea's pharmacys or whatever. I was put on it because I have severe hormonal imbalances and endocrine disorders; my thryoid and adrenals aren't functioning. My DR. has been using HCG in the past for various issues - not just for quick weight loss. In my case, not only is he hoping that it will reset my hypothalamus but put an end to yo yo weight gain - 40 lbs in 6 weeks - on and off; comes on quick, sometimes goes off quick - I look at it this way - my weight gain isn't ordinary - its not due to over eating; not exercising etc. Hormones put on weight - if balancing them by putting in more hormones fixes them, so why not?

I think we all have our own beliefs; I personally believe a Raw & Living foods diet is the best one; yes, best for me but someone else may think its absurd. Maybe we should all learn from each other - I know that I could never do an atkins diet no matter what but I would still like to hear others successes and stories - just because we disagree with something doesn't mean we can't learn from it.
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I personally believe a Raw & Living foods diet is the best one.
Hi Angelina,

First of all,

Secondly, about the raw foods, I have been checking into sprouting
lately. Do you know anything about that? Do you know of any good
sources of information for it?

Thanks for the input to the hcg thread, and good luck

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I think Kimkins was banned because she was a fraud and a liar not because of the 500 cals a day diet. Heaps of fasting threads around.
Actually, Kimmer quit. She wasn't banned. She quit on her own and started her own website.
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Hi Angelina,

First of all,

Secondly, about the raw foods, I have been checking into sprouting
lately. Do you know anything about that? Do you know of any good
sources of information for it?

Thanks for the input to the hcg thread, and good luck

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Thanks Bobo.

I love sprouts - I think they're a pain, but they're really worth it. I never really gotten into sprouting grains - except quinoa (which is actually a berry!); my fave is lentils - they sprout pretty quick. When I sprout garbanzo beans I also find that I need to cook them a bit to digest better. I definitely always try to soak all nuts when I use them - almond, sunflower & pumpkins seeds. Then when I'm real lazy I'll just pick them up in the store!!! I can always find a sprouted bean mix in Whole foods and I've found pea shoots in Trader Joe's - I love them; definitely great for low carbing - tons of fiber and really high in vitamin c.

Finally, here are a few links that you can check out:
Living and Raw Foods:* Sprouting: a brief overview
Living and Raw Foods: The Value of Sprouts

let me know what you think if you try them.
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Actually, Ms. Diaz (aka Kimmer) used the very same theory on her "diet" as well, without having to take an injections.


Scary stuff, though, encouraging your body to cannibalize itself. And just how does your body KNOW to take it from fat, and not muscle?
Your body knows to take it from the abnormal fat because the HCG is telling it to. I did my HCG program through a clinic. Every week we would go in for a weigh-in, measurement and BIA (BioImpedance Analysis). This tests your BMI (Body Mass Index, lean muscle vs. fat mass).

Every single time I sent in my lean muscle was increasing and my fat mass was decreasing. This would not be happening if your body was burning the lean muscle up. This was the same with everyone, most everyone gained 3-4% lean muscle, in 23 days! That is hard to do if you are doing an "anorexic" diet.
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Angelina,

Thanks for the links! That second link is one of the most
informative that I've seen so far about the benefits of sprouting.

The milk recipe looks good too.

Do you sprout in a jar, tray, cloth, or something else?

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I would be impressed if:

1. You are on a 1200 or more calorie a day intake and taking HCG and still lose weight. Anyone here?

2. You have lost your weight on this protocol and are now maintaining the loss 1-2 years later on a normal caloric intake. Anybody?
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That isn't going to happen because that's not how the protocol works ~ 500 cals. Geeze!
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That isn't going to happen because that's not how the protocol works ~ 500 cals. Geeze!
But that's kind of my point. Anyone will lose weight on 500 calories a day. You do know they have done double blind placebo studies that proved HCG doesn't do anything for weight loss?

If you could eat a more normal diet and not starve yourself, it would be impressive. That was what I was asking.
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But that's kind of my point. Anyone will lose weight on 500 calories a day. You do know they have done double blind placebo studies that proved HCG doesn't do anything for weight loss?

If you could eat a more normal diet and not starve yourself, it would be impressive. That was what I was asking.
You could NEVER stick to a 500 cal. diet without the HCG. It keeps you from feeling hungry.

I would be impressed about LC diets if:

1) They worked for me. But after doing Atkins twice for 2 months, no cheats, by the book without zero weight loss, I gave up!

I've been on this plan since Nov. 26th, I've lost 15 lbs. and I feel GREAT!

This protocol resets your hypothalamus which will allow LC eating to work for me when I've finished it. That's why I'm here to get LC ideas for when the protocol is over and also to converse with others who are doing HCG for the same reasons.
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Thank you, Dedee62.

I wonder if anyone will weigh in (heheh, sorry) about the maintenance question.
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Thank you, Dedee62.

I wonder if anyone will weigh in (heheh, sorry) about the maintenance question.
I don't know anyone who has been off it long enough to answer you. However, I do know that my youngest sister who pointed this protocol out to me by doing it herself eats whatever she wants now and, actually, still loses sometimes. She's been off the protocol for 4 months. She is an ex-bodybuilder and had her water test done for fat loss (I don't know the exact name of the test). She lost almost all fat with this protocol and just a trace of muscle mass. She has studied nutrition for years, both through college at Kansas University and on her own after. I totally trust her opinion in all related matters.
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Steph..................my wife has been off the hcg injections for over
a month. She weighs about 124 pounds, and enjoys 2200+
calories per day. She is approximately one pound less today
then when she took her last shot five weeks ago.




Rich...............Thanks for the kind words!
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Bobo, do you mind sharing how much she lost on the HCG protocol? 2200 calories a day is a very livable way of eating, I think. Thanks.
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Yes, someone did a double-blind study. One group was on HCG and 500 calories, the other group was on a placebo and 500 calories. People in both groups did lose about the same amount of weight, however the kicker is that only 10% of the people on the placebo actually completed the course because they were starving the entire time and most of them gave up. 80% of the people on HCG completed, they did not have the hunger and cravings. And it has been proven that those on the HCG lost fat and gained lean muscle. Those on the placebo lost some fat, but mostly lean muscle.
Ok, now I have really been looking into this. loveslifegal30, the studies you cite (or should I say, the conclusions drawn) appear to have been "spun" by a Dr. Daniel O. Belluscio et al, who have a vested interest in selling and promoting the HCG diet.

On the other hand, there are a number of controlled studies whose unbiased researchers came to a different conclusion than those selling the HCG diet:

S Afr Med J. 1990 Feb 17;77(4):185-9.
Human chorionic gonadotrophin and weight loss. A double-blind, placebo-controlled trial.
Bosch B, Venter I, Stewart RI, Bertram SR.Department of Medical Physiology and Biochemistry, University of Stellenbosch, Parowvallei, CP.


Low-dose human chorionic gonadotrophin (HCG) combined with a severe diet remains a popular treatment for obesity, despite equivocal evidence of its effectiveness. In a double-blind, placebo-controlled study, the effects of HCG on weight loss were compared with placebo injections. Forty obese women (body mass index greater than 30 kg/m2) were placed on the same diet supplying 5,000 kJ per day and received daily intramuscular injections of saline or HCG, 6 days a week for 6 weeks. A psychological profile, hunger level, body circumferences, a fasting blood sample and food records were obtained at the start and end of the study, while body weight was measured weekly. Subjects receiving HCG injections showed no advantages over those on placebo in respect of any of the variables recorded. [COLOR="Red"]Furthermore, weight loss on our diet was similar to that on severely restricted intake. We conclude that there is no rationale for the use of HCG injections in the treatment of obesity.[/COLOR] emphasis mine.

Geburtshilfe Frauenheilkd. 1987 May;47(5):297-307.[Risk-benefit analysis of a hCG-500 kcal reducing diet (cura romana) in females] [Article in German]
Rabe T, Richter S, Kiesel L, Runnebaum B.

The British physician A.T.W. Simeons described in 1954 a new method for dieting. He combined a reduction diet (500 kcal per day) with daily injections of the pregnancy hormone human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) (125 IU i.m.). According to Simeons the patient should not lose more weight during a 4-to-6 weeks' diet than without hCG, but the injections should facilitate to maintain the diet and to lose body weight at specific parts of the body (e.g. hip, belly, thigh). After the first publication various studies conducted with male and female patients analysed the efficacy of the "Cura romana". 10 of these studies showed positive and another 10 studies negative results with regard to hCG-related weight reduction. Two of these studies with positive results were double-blind studies (hCG vs. placebo). Most of them were reports on therapeutical experiences and were not controlled studies. According to these reports the body proportions normalized and the feeling of hunger was tolerable. Four out of 10 studies with negative results were controlled studies (hCG vs. control without hCG), whereas 6 were double-blind studies. These studies showed a significant weight reduction during dieting, but no differences between treatment groups in respect of body weight, body proportions and feeling of hunger. One of them is the only German study conducted by Rabe et al. in 1981 in which 82 randomised premenopausal volunteers had been dieting either with hCG or without hCG injections. In recent publications describing mostly well-documented double-blind studies authors largely reject hCG administration in dieting. [COLOR="red"]Supporters of the hCG diet must prove the efficacy of this method in controlled studies according to the German Drug Law. Until then the opinion of the German steroid toxicology panel is still valid, that hCG is ineffective in dieting and should not be used [/COLOR](Bolt 1982 a, 1982 b). emphasis mine.

Am J Clin Nutr. 1976 Sep;29(9):940-8. Ineffectiveness of human chorionic gonadotropin in weight reduction: a double-blind study. Stein MR, Julis RE, Peck CC, Hinshaw W, Sawicki JE, Deller JJ Jr.

Our investigation was designed to retest the hypothesis of the efficacy of human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) on weight reduction in obese women in a clinic setting. We sought to duplicate the Asher-Harper study (1973) which had found that the combination of 500 cal diet and HCG had a statistically significant benefit over the diet and placebo combination as evidenced by greater weight loss and decrease in hunger. Fifty-one women between the ages of 18 and 60 participated in our 32-day prospective, randomized, double-blind comparison of HCG versus placebo. Each patient was given the same diet (the one prescribed in the Asher-Harper study), was weighed daily Monday through Saturday and was counselled by one of the investigators who administered the injections. Laboratory studies were performed at the time of initial physical examinations and at the end of the study. Twenty of 25 in the HCG and 21 of 26 patients in the placebo groups completed 28 injections. [COLOR="red"]There was no statistically significant difference in the means of the two groups in number of injections received, weight loss, percent of weight loss, hip and waist circumference, weight loss per injections, or in hunger ratings. HCG does not appear to enhance the effectiveness of a rigidly imposed regimen for weight reduction.[/COLOR] emphasis mine.

Yet, there are quite a few of you on this protocol and swearing that it has worked and continues to work well for you.

I confess, I'm perplexed and intrigued at the same time
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Ok, now I have really been looking into this. loveslifegal30, the studies you cite (or should I say, the conclusions drawn) appear to have been "spun" by a Dr. Daniel O. Belluscio et al, who have a vested interest in selling and promoting the HCG diet.

On the other hand, there are a number of controlled studies whose unbiased researchers came to a different conclusion than those selling the HCG diet:

S Afr Med J. 1990 Feb 17;77(4):185-9.
Human chorionic gonadotrophin and weight loss. A double-blind, placebo-controlled trial.
Bosch B, Venter I, Stewart RI, Bertram SR.Department of Medical Physiology and Biochemistry, University of Stellenbosch, Parowvallei, CP.

Low-dose human chorionic gonadotrophin (HCG) combined with a severe diet remains a popular treatment for obesity, despite equivocal evidence of its effectiveness. In a double-blind, placebo-controlled study, the effects of HCG on weight loss were compared with placebo injections. Forty obese women (body mass index greater than 30 kg/m2) were placed on the same diet supplying 5,000 kJ per day and received daily intramuscular injections of saline or HCG, 6 days a week for 6 weeks. A psychological profile, hunger level, body circumferences, a fasting blood sample and food records were obtained at the start and end of the study, while body weight was measured weekly. Subjects receiving HCG injections showed no advantages over those on placebo in respect of any of the variables recorded. [COLOR=red]Furthermore, weight loss on our diet was similar to that on severely restricted intake. We conclude that there is no rationale for the use of HCG injections in the treatment of obesity.[/COLOR] emphasis mine.

Geburtshilfe Frauenheilkd. 1987 May;47(5):297-307.[Risk-benefit analysis of a hCG-500 kcal reducing diet (cura romana) in females] [Article in German]
Rabe T, Richter S, Kiesel L, Runnebaum B.

The British physician A.T.W. Simeons described in 1954 a new method for dieting. He combined a reduction diet (500 kcal per day) with daily injections of the pregnancy hormone human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) (125 IU i.m.). According to Simeons the patient should not lose more weight during a 4-to-6 weeks' diet than without hCG, but the injections should facilitate to maintain the diet and to lose body weight at specific parts of the body (e.g. hip, belly, thigh). After the first publication various studies conducted with male and female patients analysed the efficacy of the "Cura romana". 10 of these studies showed positive and another 10 studies negative results with regard to hCG-related weight reduction. Two of these studies with positive results were double-blind studies (hCG vs. placebo). Most of them were reports on therapeutical experiences and were not controlled studies. According to these reports the body proportions normalized and the feeling of hunger was tolerable. Four out of 10 studies with negative results were controlled studies (hCG vs. control without hCG), whereas 6 were double-blind studies. These studies showed a significant weight reduction during dieting, but no differences between treatment groups in respect of body weight, body proportions and feeling of hunger. One of them is the only German study conducted by Rabe et al. in 1981 in which 82 randomised premenopausal volunteers had been dieting either with hCG or without hCG injections. In recent publications describing mostly well-documented double-blind studies authors largely reject hCG administration in dieting. [COLOR=red]Supporters of the hCG diet must prove the efficacy of this method in controlled studies according to the German Drug Law. Until then the opinion of the German steroid toxicology panel is still valid, that hCG is ineffective in dieting and should not be used [/COLOR](Bolt 1982 a, 1982 b). emphasis mine.

Am J Clin Nutr. 1976 Sep;29(9):940-8. Ineffectiveness of human chorionic gonadotropin in weight reduction: a double-blind study. Stein MR, Julis RE, Peck CC, Hinshaw W, Sawicki JE, Deller JJ Jr.

Our investigation was designed to retest the hypothesis of the efficacy of human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) on weight reduction in obese women in a clinic setting. We sought to duplicate the Asher-Harper study (1973) which had found that the combination of 500 cal diet and HCG had a statistically significant benefit over the diet and placebo combination as evidenced by greater weight loss and decrease in hunger. Fifty-one women between the ages of 18 and 60 participated in our 32-day prospective, randomized, double-blind comparison of HCG versus placebo. Each patient was given the same diet (the one prescribed in the Asher-Harper study), was weighed daily Monday through Saturday and was counselled by one of the investigators who administered the injections. Laboratory studies were performed at the time of initial physical examinations and at the end of the study. Twenty of 25 in the HCG and 21 of 26 patients in the placebo groups completed 28 injections. [COLOR=red]There was no statistically significant difference in the means of the two groups in number of injections received, weight loss, percent of weight loss, hip and waist circumference, weight loss per injections, or in hunger ratings. HCG does not appear to enhance the effectiveness of a rigidly imposed regimen for weight reduction.[/COLOR] emphasis mine.

Yet, there are quite a few of you on this protocol and swearing that it has worked and continues to work well for you.

I confess, I'm perplexed and intrigued at the same time
I'll bet you the ones getting the placebo felt like they were starving to death vs. the HCG users. Like I said HCG calms any hunger. I'm not hungry in the least and sometimes I could even skip a meal, but that's not the rules of the protocol so I eat despite not being hungry.
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I'll bet you the ones getting the placebo felt like they were starving to death vs. the HCG users. Like I said HCG calms any hunger. I'm not hungry in the least and sometimes I could even skip a meal, but that's not the rules of the protocol so I eat despite not being hungry.
Same exact thing happens with the fat fast. 1000 cals a day 90% fat. When I did it I only ate cream cheese. The ketosis is so deep that there is literally no hunger. Though its still miserably boring.
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Do you sprout in a jar, tray, cloth, or something else?

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I love that site too! Its great for more than just sprouting! I have used the jar method with a very large sprouting jar (has a mesh top) and hated it!! Now I usually just use my large rectangle pyrex (or small depending on how much I'm sprouting). I just make sure the seeds/grains/nuts are just evenly spread out. My pyrex comes with lids - so thats pretty handy too... I've never made that milk, but have done straight almond and its VERY GOOD - its definitely a raw food staple. As I was saying in my last post - I try to never eat nuts unsprouted/unsoaked (some are more difficult like walnuts - but I still soak them most of the time) - its pretty simple step that makes them so nutritionally better than non soaked/sprouted

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Yet, there are quite a few of you on this protocol and swearing that it has worked and continues to work well for you.

I confess, I'm perplexed and intrigued at the same time
It works and it works like they say it will. I lost 22.5 lbs in 20 days. I felt great the entire time. The only time I was hungry (besides the first 2-3 days before my body started metabolizing my abnormal fat) was when it was time to eat a snack or meal and I had forgotten or was late.

I am very health conscious. I have studied and researched for HOURS before I started this protocol. I felt like it was right FOR ME and I would give it a try. I am so happy that I did. I am now on the three week maintenance and I am eating 2200 calories and maintained the 22.5 pounds I lost with no problem.

Like I said, I actually gained lean muscle and lost fat mass. I am not out to sell anything...I have not ulterior motive....I don't stand to gain anything if someone decides to do this. I just know that it works for weight loss and there are so many other health benefits.

Here is something I wrote/compiled after all my research to better help people understand the amazing benefits of the HCG protocol and resetting the hypothalamus. It's long, so bare with me:

In the 1950's a British doctor, Dr. A.T.W. Simeons, discovered that the hypothalamus is the major cause of obesity. The hypothalamus controls the storage of fat in the body.

The first type of fat in our bodies is structural fat, the fat that cushions our organs and insides. The second type of fat is normal fat, the padding on our hands and feet, etc. The third type of fat is abnormal fat, our love handles, bellies, back fat, spare tires, saddle bags, etc.

When the hypothalamus is working properly, it stores the excess fuel we eat as structural or normal fat it can access at a later time for energy and nutrients. Dr. Simeons discovered that because of genetics, eating refined foods/sugar, hydrogenated oils, etc. the hypothalamus gets overloaded with more excess fuel than it can handle. Because the structural and normal fat reserves are at their maximum already this excess fuel that the hypothalamus cannot handle gets stored as abnormal fat - fat that can’t be accessed or used.

Today we know that the hypothalamus does much more than store fat in the body.

The Health Maintenance Organization of the Body

The hypothalamus is called the brain of the brain. It appears that almost everything the hypothalamus does is related in some way to the management of brain and body connection, linking the psyche (mind) to the body, weight management and controlled weight loss.

The hypothalamus is located immediately below the thalamus at the center of the brain, and controls many automatic functions of the body. This means it has the power to govern the autonomic (automatic or subconscious) nervous system. The hypothalamus also controls pituitary output by secreting specific chemicals to the pituitary's front lobe.

Very simply, the Hypothalamus organizes and controls many complex emotions, feelings and moods, as well as all motivational states including hunger, appetite and food intake, and everything to do with the concept of pleasure including satisfaction, comfort and creative activities. The neurons in the Hypothalamus produce neurotransmitters which relay information and instruction to all parts of the brain and body, directly influencing the pituitary gland, where growth hormone, thyroid hormone releasing factor and other neuropeptides.

Ultimately the hypothalamus can control every endocrine gland in the body. It controls the function of the pituitary and thyroid glands.

When the hypothalamus doesn’t work properly


When the Hypothalamus is not working correctly we are lead to faulty perceptions which are very subtle but nonetheless powerful, making us feel empty, deprived and emotionally "unsatisfied." Dysfunction of the hypothalamus often leads to depression, hyperactivity, abnormal responses to stress, or disturbances in brain and limbic functioning.

Some of the physical aspects of Hypothalamic dysfunction are: disordered sleep, multiple hormonal dysfunctions, immune dysfunction, autonomic dysfunction, and altered body temperatures.

What causes dysfunction in the hypothalamus?

The function of these vital systems can be altered by various causes ranging from food mishandling, dependency & substance withdrawal, stress or psychological responses to simple functional deficits, hyperactivity, hypoactivity or learning disabilities. Unfortunately, Hypothalamic function becomes impaired with age, so as we grow older the Hypothalamus needs support to maintain optimum performance.


The Missing Piece

HCG is found in trace amounts in men and women alike. A pregnant woman produces mass amounts of HCG. Dr. Simeons discovered that HCG allows the hypothalamus to function at a higher capacity thus allowing the fetus to have the nutrients and energy it needs to grow.

The premise behind the HCG protocol is that by taking HCG and doing a very low calorie diet, your hypothalamus is able to function at a higher capacity and access that abnormal fat it usually can't access. You eat 500 calories and take the HCG. 500 calories doesn't sound like much, but because your body is using the abnormal fat as its energy and nutrition you are actually metabolizing between 2500 and 4000 calories.

When people usually go on diets or exercise to lose weight, they are losing their normal fat or structural fat first because it is nearly impossible for the body to access that abnormal fat. The beauty of the HCG diet is that you burn the abnormal fat and you literally re-sculpt your body. Your skin doesn't get flabby; it actually tightens. Looking at before and after pictures you would think that someone had liposuction or plastic surgery.


Life after the HCG Protocol


The HCG Protocol is learning a whole new lifestyle, a new approach to the way you will eat for the rest of your life. You will have a new relationship with food and have new habits that will assist you in making the right food choices.

After successfully completing a round of HCG protocol you have reset your hypothalamus, increased your metabolism, and have a new weight set-point for your body to maintain.

If you go back to eating fast food, restaurant food and foods containing trans-fats, high fructose corn syrup, highly refined foods, artificial sweeteners, etc., etc., etc., you will , in fact mess up your hypothalamus again and regain the weight. If you make healthy food choices you will maintain the weight you lost during the protocol and even continue to lose with careful observation. Follow the do’s and don’t in Phase 4 and you will keep the weight off forever.
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First of all, it's "affecting", not effecting.

Secondly, I do not want to be part of a site that ENCOURAGES anorexia. I wouldn't join Kimkins, because it's dangerous. That's what this is, more or less, except with drugs. Would you like it if I started a thread about the Heroin Diet, or would you think that was extreme? I think that the anorexia thread is extreme, and I don't want to be part of anything that will encourage others to harm their bodies.

As a Christian, I see how my actions affect others. If I support a site that encourages anorexia, I'm going to have to explain that to God. I don't have a good explanation to give to him.
You realize there are people who think Atkins is dangerous and will kill you too, right? Maybe we should just shut down LCF altogether.
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There have always been naysayers on low carb, Atkins, high fat, etc. but look what the FDA government food pyramid has done to millions! And that's okay?

If hCG protocal works, stick to it. If Atkins works, stick to it. If low fat works, have your head examined.....nah, just joking.

Continue on......................
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I'm very glad this thread was started. If not, I never would have paid attention to the HCG thread!

I feel good and I'm losing weight and inches.
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I'm very glad this thread was started. If not, I never would have paid attention to the HCG thread!

I feel good and I'm losing weight and inches.
so you are down 10 pounds in a week????? great job!!!!
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:43 AM   #177
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I'm very glad this thread was started. If not, I never would have paid attention to the HCG thread!

I feel good and I'm losing weight and inches.
What is the homeopathic HCG protocol?

Please

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What is the homeopathic HCG protocol?

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There is a thread on this board (Other Plans) titled "Anyone hear of that HCG diet". It's long, about 86 pages now, but take some time to read through some of the post.

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so you are down 10 pounds in a week????? great job!!!!
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What is the homeopathic HCG protocol?

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Do you know anything about the HCG protocol? If not, I would suggest reading Dr. Simeons' manuscript, Pounds and Inches. You can find it online by googling it.

The homeopathic is a version of HCG, not the actual hormone, but many are using it and getting the same or better results as the regular HCG hormone.

Come check our our thread, learn more and ask questions!
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