The new WW plan!

healed01 · 09-24-2008, 11:36 AM

We love WW but we also LOVE LOVE the LC woe. Dilemna: when points are calculated, fat grams makes the points in foods so high when we know that it's not the fats that make us fat but the carbs. So I've changed it and I'm going to track my progress. What I've done is replaced the FAT grams in my calculator for foods to find out points with CARB grams..so now when I track my points the latter is based on calories, fibre grams and carbs, not calories, fat and fibre. I've test run foods on my "new" system and it works out great. It stears me away from hign carb foods and it encourages me to eat high fat foods by keeping my portions under control. I'm also using the max points ..so for my weight my daily point amount is 23 + 5 flex points/day and 2 APs..so that's 30 points per day.

What i love is that now my CO is not 4 points per T but 3 points and if I want to have a cookie (high carbs but maybe low fat) it's not 2 points but 4 points..anyway I'm going to see how this works out which I believe it will and I'll report in.

If any of you are doing WW and would like to join my journey, please post your progress here!

SteelerfanAL · 09-24-2008, 12:00 PM

That's pretty neat!

SmileySue · 09-24-2008, 12:05 PM

What a great idea!! Now if you could just get WW to accept it......

Kaimi2008 · 09-24-2008, 12:15 PM

Oh, you've lost me on the math stuff. I'm willing to try anything at this point.

Violet Skye · 09-24-2008, 12:25 PM

Can you run the math by me again, please? Am I right that you've also changed the order in which the components are calculated as well as swapping carbs for fat? If so, this sounds verrrrry interesting, especially if I go on Core.

LoserMom77 · 09-24-2008, 12:45 PM

WW and LC are both awesome ways to lose weight & get healthy...congrats on finding a way to make them both work for you

berighteous · 09-24-2008, 01:54 PM

too complicated for me. It's easy enough to just not eat carby foods.

NurseMonkee · 09-24-2008, 04:10 PM

Pretty cool idea.
I still have my desktop WW calculator.

I would just count 50 calories as 1 point and ignore fiber/fat though. Not the same but it helps. Then again, it might be easier to just count regular calories, if you must do so. LOL.

nicsweed · 09-28-2008, 08:29 PM

I'm on ww, but to ensure that i dont eat to many calories for my body weight i count point's because you can eat anything you want on WW, so 50 cals is one point, That is the way i have always calculated

Good Job on Tweaking the system

healed01 · 09-29-2008, 09:52 PM

thanks! sorry I haven't been around ...no computer..anyway I have been doing the new system ..and it's working out great. REgarding some of your posts regarding just sticking to LC, I do like this method b/c if I do eat something that's not LC I can take it in account for my daily points also instead of stearing me away from high fat foods, it's steering me away from high carb foods b/c they become higher in points! But if I do eat a cookie or if I want to endulge in in-season fruit ( I love apples) I don't have to feel I'm off plan...

My favorite foods:
I love snacking on almonds...before for 22 almonds WW pts were 4 pts . Now when I replace the carb grams in lieu of the fat grams I can have 27 for 3 pts. My CO has gone from 4 pts/1T now 1T is 2.5pts...as for an apple was 1 point before..now its about 2-3pts depending on the size...

healed01 · 09-29-2008, 09:53 PM

I'm working on a list of my fav foods that I'll post here with points...

healed01 · 09-29-2008, 10:27 PM

eggs: 1.5pts per egg
cream 18%: 1T 1pt
CO: 1T 2.5pts
almonds: 27 nts 3pts
cod liver oil: 1tsp 1pt
99% dark lindt chocolat: 5 points for lrg bar
green leafy veggies: 0pts
cheese:
lint 99% bar: 5pts

healed01 · 09-29-2008, 10:28 PM

let me know if there are any foods that you want me to look up

porusgal · 09-30-2008, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by healed01

We love WW but we also LOVE LOVE the LC woe. Dilemna: when points are calculated, fat grams makes the points in foods so high when we know that it's not the fats that make us fat but the carbs. So I've changed it and I'm going to track my progress. What I've done is replaced the FAT grams in my calculator for foods to find out points with CARB grams..so now when I track my points the latter is based on calories, fibre grams and carbs, not calories, fat and fibre. I've test run foods on my "new" system and it works out great. It stears me away from hign carb foods and it encourages me to eat high fat foods by keeping my portions under control. I'm also using the max points ..so for my weight my daily point amount is 23 + 5 flex points/day and 2 APs..so that's 30 points per day.

What i love is that now my CO is not 4 points per T but 3 points and if I want to have a cookie (high carbs but maybe low fat) it's not 2 points but 4 points..anyway I'm going to see how this works out which I believe it will and I'll report in.

If any of you are doing WW and would like to join my journey, please post your progress here!

I think it is wonderful that you have found a way to incorporate both worlds. Good luck with your weight loss journey.

CurlsNCuffs · 09-30-2008, 06:37 AM

Marking my spot - this sounds interesting - please post your progress. Good Luck!

karen73 · 09-30-2008, 10:33 AM

I'm a lurker on this board, but I wanted to log on and say that I think this is a REALLY great idea. I'm going to try it myself.

I find when I do WW, I eat so many high carb foods(because of the fiber content) and very little protein, so I tend to get very hungry.

I just re-started WW (again) in hopes that I will be able to do it this time around. I started out doing the regular plan this morning, then I remembered your post. So, I'm going to continue on counting carbs instead of the fat.

I hope you keep us updated on how you're doing. I also hope this "reverse" plan works for me

.

Thanks

Karen

ETA: I using the Atkins Carb Counter booklet to figure out my points, since it has calories, fiber and carb listings in that book.

healed01 · 10-01-2008, 08:19 PM

Menu ideas

healed01 · 10-02-2008, 10:20 PM

wow...for my interest I looked up McDs cone and with the old WW it's5 points but with my system that's carb sensitive it comes out to 7 points....I believe it's accurate.
I believe I have TOM coming and my interest in food has been nil andI have not really been good with the quality of my food. My portions have been fine but I have not really paid attenton to my nutrients and working out has been nil other than walking daily. I want continue to expand my list and really have a good idea of my points and my daily target and refocus. My weigh in is tomorrow and I'm excited ...I doubt I've lost weight but I am looking forward to it as it will be a time to refocus

StephanieK · 10-04-2008, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by healed01

We love WW but we also LOVE LOVE the LC woe. Dilemna: when points are calculated, fat grams makes the points in foods so high when we know that it's not the fats that make us fat but the carbs. So I've changed it and I'm going to track my progress. What I've done is replaced the FAT grams in my calculator for foods to find out points with CARB grams..so now when I track my points the latter is based on calories, fibre grams and carbs, not calories, fat and fibre. I've test run foods on my "new" system and it works out great. It stears me away from hign carb foods and it encourages me to eat high fat foods by keeping my portions under control. I'm also using the max points ..so for my weight my daily point amount is 23 + 5 flex points/day and 2 APs..so that's 30 points per day.

What i love is that now my CO is not 4 points per T but 3 points and if I want to have a cookie (high carbs but maybe low fat) it's not 2 points but 4 points..anyway I'm going to see how this works out which I believe it will and I'll report in.

If any of you are doing WW and would like to join my journey, please post your progress here!

This is exactly what I needed. I like the WW points plan because it's just boundaries on the amount of what to eat. However, I find myself gravitating towards too many carbs overall and when I do that the grazing monster hits. Fat stops the grazing cold.

Off to redo my points!

LoraJR72 · 10-04-2008, 07:50 AM

I was and still am very confused about WW. I got a trial week from their online site and wanted to see what they really have that would make me want to join. I mean, I can (re)join Food Addicts in Recovery Anonymous for $0.

I want to see how well you do, Healed.

healed01 · 10-04-2008, 01:04 PM

Thanks. Well I'm going to start journaling in my journal so I'm not all over the place when I want to look back. I have to admit though the transition has been a challenge but today is Day 1 and you can visit my J via the link in my signature...Let me know how you're all doing too!

Kaimi2008 · 10-05-2008, 03:56 AM

I'm keeping up with this thread as well. I'm a lifetime member for almost 3 years and getting sick of counting points and that's why I wanted too try Core or something lo carb. I lost 1.1 pounds my first week.

healed01 · 10-05-2008, 09:42 AM

hI Kaimi..that's awesome..so you lost 1.1lbs on Core? It seems like many people do well on the program. However when you check out the success stories online, it's usually the flex ppl. A calore is a calorie...except some are hungrier then others...due to the lack of fats

crunchymonkey · 10-12-2008, 11:03 PM

This thread is very interesting. I'm assuming that it is the fat/12 that you changed to carbs/12 in the formula.
I'm a lifetime member, who joined WW a few years to get rid of my quitting smoking weight gain. The only way I got rid of the 30 lbs was to start smoking again.
But the one thing I really disliked about WW Core was that they insisted that eating FF stuff loaded with HFCS was healthier/better for me, than eating less processed foods.
Anyhoo, I quit smoking again over a year ago, and once again, I have over 30 lbs to lose. I managed to gain this by following WW.
I gave PPL a try, and stalled out after one month. Stuck with it for another two months, and am now waiting for the copy of Rob Thompson's low GL book to get here.
I really doubt if I could stick with Atkins long enough to work my way through the phases.
May play around with this idea and focus on low glycemic load foods.

dasiey · 10-13-2008, 02:43 PM

hi I also am a life time member of ww. I have gained a few lbs.
I have tried several different ways to lose the gained weight
for over a yr. now. I think today is the start of ww for me again.
I will do flex because core does not work for me. I like it because
there is no food off limits as long as you have the points fot it.
so today is day one.

09-24-2008, 11:36 AM	#1
healed01 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 213 Gallery: healed01 Stats: 183/170/160 WOE: Atkins/Weston Price/Grass fed Start Date: May 23 2008	The new WW plan! We love WW but we also LOVE LOVE the LC woe. Dilemna: when points are calculated, fat grams makes the points in foods so high when we know that it's not the fats that make us fat but the carbs. So I've changed it and I'm going to track my progress. What I've done is replaced the FAT grams in my calculator for foods to find out points with CARB grams..so now when I track my points the latter is based on calories, fibre grams and carbs, not calories, fat and fibre. I've test run foods on my "new" system and it works out great. It stears me away from hign carb foods and it encourages me to eat high fat foods by keeping my portions under control. I'm also using the max points ..so for my weight my daily point amount is 23 + 5 flex points/day and 2 APs..so that's 30 points per day. What i love is that now my CO is not 4 points per T but 3 points and if I want to have a cookie (high carbs but maybe low fat) it's not 2 points but 4 points..anyway I'm going to see how this works out which I believe it will and I'll report in. If any of you are doing WW and would like to join my journey, please post your progress here! __________________ my WW plan http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ot...w-ww-plan.html goals 170lbs:done! 160lbs 150lbs 140lbs http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/we...l#post10661050

09-29-2008, 10:27 PM	#12
healed01 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 213 Gallery: healed01 Stats: 183/170/160 WOE: Atkins/Weston Price/Grass fed Start Date: May 23 2008	eggs: 1.5pts per egg cream 18%: 1T 1pt CO: 1T 2.5pts almonds: 27 nts 3pts cod liver oil: 1tsp 1pt 99% dark lindt chocolat: 5 points for lrg bar green leafy veggies: 0pts cheese: lint 99% bar: 5pts Last edited by healed01 : 09-29-2008 at 11:09 PM.

09-30-2008, 10:33 AM	#16
karen73 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 274 Gallery: karen73 Stats: 117/117/100	I'm a lurker on this board, but I wanted to log on and say that I think this is a REALLY great idea. I'm going to try it myself. I find when I do WW, I eat so many high carb foods(because of the fiber content) and very little protein, so I tend to get very hungry. I just re-started WW (again) in hopes that I will be able to do it this time around. I started out doing the regular plan this morning, then I remembered your post. So, I'm going to continue on counting carbs instead of the fat. I hope you keep us updated on how you're doing. I also hope this "reverse" plan works for me. Thanks Karen ETA: I using the Atkins Carb Counter booklet to figure out my points, since it has calories, fiber and carb listings in that book. __________________ Karen 4'11" (Highest weight=150) ~Today is where your book begins. The rest is still unwritten~ (Natasha Bedingfield) Last edited by karen73 : 09-30-2008 at 10:36 AM.

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09-24-2008, 12:00 PM	#2
SteelerfanAL Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alabama... but true Floridian at heart Posts: 150 Gallery: SteelerfanAL Stats: 221/211.8/135 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Re-Start 01/07/08	That's pretty neat!

09-24-2008, 12:05 PM	#3
SmileySue Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 675 Gallery: SmileySue Stats: 332/132 WOE: Low carb and clean eating/whole foods Start Date: 9/05	What a great idea!! Now if you could just get WW to accept it......

09-24-2008, 12:15 PM	#4
Kaimi2008 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 410 Blog Entries: 13 Gallery: Kaimi2008 Stats: 190/149/135	Oh, you've lost me on the math stuff. I'm willing to try anything at this point.

09-24-2008, 12:25 PM	#5
Violet Skye MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,302 Gallery: Violet Skye Stats: Goal+75/Goal+70!/Goal WOE: Crack the Fat Code Start Date: July 21, 2008	Can you run the math by me again, please? Am I right that you've also changed the order in which the components are calculated as well as swapping carbs for fat? If so, this sounds verrrrry interesting, especially if I go on Core.

09-24-2008, 12:45 PM	#6
LoserMom77 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mississippi Coast Posts: 30 Gallery: LoserMom77 WOE: Atkins Start Date: September 22, 2008	WW and LC are both awesome ways to lose weight & get healthy...congrats on finding a way to make them both work for you

09-24-2008, 01:54 PM	#7
berighteous Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Grand Junction, Co Posts: 399 Gallery: berighteous Stats: 320/279/200 WOE: Atkins Start Date: June 2, 2008	too complicated for me. It's easy enough to just not eat carby foods.

09-24-2008, 04:10 PM	#8
NurseMonkee Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 347 Gallery: NurseMonkee WOE: Lower Carb Start Date: 7/13/08	Pretty cool idea. I still have my desktop WW calculator. I would just count 50 calories as 1 point and ignore fiber/fat though. Not the same but it helps. Then again, it might be easier to just count regular calories, if you must do so. LOL.

09-28-2008, 08:29 PM	#9
nicsweed Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: texas Posts: 480 Gallery: nicsweed Stats: ST349/NOW-270/goal-175 WOE: "(WW-CORE)--Whole food nutrition" Start Date: restart:01/30 2008	I'm on ww, but to ensure that i dont eat to many calories for my body weight i count point's because you can eat anything you want on WW, so 50 cals is one point, That is the way i have always calculated Good Job on Tweaking the system

09-29-2008, 09:52 PM	#10
healed01 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 213 Gallery: healed01 Stats: 183/170/160 WOE: Atkins/Weston Price/Grass fed Start Date: May 23 2008	thanks! sorry I haven't been around ...no computer..anyway I have been doing the new system ..and it's working out great. REgarding some of your posts regarding just sticking to LC, I do like this method b/c if I do eat something that's not LC I can take it in account for my daily points also instead of stearing me away from high fat foods, it's steering me away from high carb foods b/c they become higher in points! But if I do eat a cookie or if I want to endulge in in-season fruit ( I love apples) I don't have to feel I'm off plan... My favorite foods: I love snacking on almonds...before for 22 almonds WW pts were 4 pts . Now when I replace the carb grams in lieu of the fat grams I can have 27 for 3 pts. My CO has gone from 4 pts/1T now 1T is 2.5pts...as for an apple was 1 point before..now its about 2-3pts depending on the size...

09-29-2008, 09:53 PM	#11
healed01 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 213 Gallery: healed01 Stats: 183/170/160 WOE: Atkins/Weston Price/Grass fed Start Date: May 23 2008	I'm working on a list of my fav foods that I'll post here with points...

09-29-2008, 10:28 PM	#13
healed01 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 213 Gallery: healed01 Stats: 183/170/160 WOE: Atkins/Weston Price/Grass fed Start Date: May 23 2008	let me know if there are any foods that you want me to look up

09-30-2008, 06:37 AM	#15
CurlsNCuffs MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,345 Gallery: CurlsNCuffs Stats: 240/147/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: April 2, 2003	Marking my spot - this sounds interesting - please post your progress. Good Luck!

10-01-2008, 08:19 PM	#17
healed01 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 213 Gallery: healed01 Stats: 183/170/160 WOE: Atkins/Weston Price/Grass fed Start Date: May 23 2008	Menu ideas

10-02-2008, 10:20 PM	#18
healed01 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 213 Gallery: healed01 Stats: 183/170/160 WOE: Atkins/Weston Price/Grass fed Start Date: May 23 2008	wow...for my interest I looked up McDs cone and with the old WW it's5 points but with my system that's carb sensitive it comes out to 7 points....I believe it's accurate. I believe I have TOM coming and my interest in food has been nil andI have not really been good with the quality of my food. My portions have been fine but I have not really paid attenton to my nutrients and working out has been nil other than walking daily. I want continue to expand my list and really have a good idea of my points and my daily target and refocus. My weigh in is tomorrow and I'm excited ...I doubt I've lost weight but I am looking forward to it as it will be a time to refocus

10-04-2008, 07:50 AM	#20
LoraJR72 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Over the river and through the woods... Posts: 4,554 Blog Entries: 1 Gallery: LoraJR72 Stats: 186/132/127 - 5'6" WOE: Egg/Protein Fast Rotation Start Date: October 20, 2008	I was and still am very confused about WW. I got a trial week from their online site and wanted to see what they really have that would make me want to join. I mean, I can (re)join Food Addicts in Recovery Anonymous for $0. I want to see how well you do, Healed.

10-04-2008, 01:04 PM	#21
healed01 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 213 Gallery: healed01 Stats: 183/170/160 WOE: Atkins/Weston Price/Grass fed Start Date: May 23 2008	Thanks. Well I'm going to start journaling in my journal so I'm not all over the place when I want to look back. I have to admit though the transition has been a challenge but today is Day 1 and you can visit my J via the link in my signature...Let me know how you're all doing too!

10-05-2008, 03:56 AM	#22
Kaimi2008 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 410 Blog Entries: 13 Gallery: Kaimi2008 Stats: 190/149/135	I'm keeping up with this thread as well. I'm a lifetime member for almost 3 years and getting sick of counting points and that's why I wanted too try Core or something lo carb. I lost 1.1 pounds my first week.

10-05-2008, 09:42 AM	#23
healed01 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 213 Gallery: healed01 Stats: 183/170/160 WOE: Atkins/Weston Price/Grass fed Start Date: May 23 2008	hI Kaimi..that's awesome..so you lost 1.1lbs on Core? It seems like many people do well on the program. However when you check out the success stories online, it's usually the flex ppl. A calore is a calorie...except some are hungrier then others...due to the lack of fats

10-12-2008, 11:03 PM	#24
crunchymonkey Junior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1 Gallery: crunchymonkey	This thread is very interesting. I'm assuming that it is the fat/12 that you changed to carbs/12 in the formula. I'm a lifetime member, who joined WW a few years to get rid of my quitting smoking weight gain. The only way I got rid of the 30 lbs was to start smoking again. But the one thing I really disliked about WW Core was that they insisted that eating FF stuff loaded with HFCS was healthier/better for me, than eating less processed foods. Anyhoo, I quit smoking again over a year ago, and once again, I have over 30 lbs to lose. I managed to gain this by following WW. I gave PPL a try, and stalled out after one month. Stuck with it for another two months, and am now waiting for the copy of Rob Thompson's low GL book to get here. I really doubt if I could stick with Atkins long enough to work my way through the phases. May play around with this idea and focus on low glycemic load foods.

10-13-2008, 02:43 PM	#25
dasiey Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 719 Gallery: dasiey Stats: 162 WOE: CR/eggie Start Date: Sept. 14,2008	hi I also am a life time member of ww. I have gained a few lbs. I have tried several different ways to lose the gained weight for over a yr. now. I think today is the start of ww for me again. I will do flex because core does not work for me. I like it because there is no food off limits as long as you have the points fot it. so today is day one.