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Old 07-15-2008, 05:47 PM   #1261
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Beccanancy - you are looking at two different plans. CAD plans A, B, C and D are all different and not balanced the way CALP (a more recent book) is. So on CAD RM plus salad, you would eat your salad first and then pancakes. But CALP you would divide your plate into 1/3's. 1/3 protein, 1/3 low-carb veggies and 1/3 high carb stuff. The Hellers didn't stress the 1/3 thing in the first book (the peach one that has plans A, B, C and D). Hope this helps!

Kate - yeah! Congrats on the big woosh!

Patty - how do you feel now that you have eaten?

Glendora - your weight will fluctuate a bit. I bet it goes down again tomorrow! KUTGW! My twins are 28-months and they are still my babies too! lol

Cindy - have a great time on your trip. I bought apple cider vinegar today. Not Braggs, but another brand. I haven't tried it yet!

RM was bbq fried rice. DH makes it and it is SOOOOOO good! 1 cup fruit (strawbs, blues, canteloupe), Smart Ones fudge cake and a Lindt.

Tink - what made you check out Stillman's? Never heard of it. Mind you I don't glance at other woe anymore now that I am where I want to be! I used to though. I would read something in a magazine and then jump to that plan right away!

Linda - love that pic! Great shot!

Have a great CAD everyone and hi to anyone I missed!

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Old 07-15-2008, 06:05 PM   #1262
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Hi All -
Good day here except I'm pooped - starting to get up earlier again to get some things done in the mornings and it's always tough the first few weeks till the body adjusts.

All well on this end otherwise - thanks everyone for the cheers on the weightloss - the joy will be getting into the 140's - that will be true progress for all of my efforts since December as I have bounced between 152 and 162 since then - mainly between 158-162 then with CAD - it shook it downward, but up and down due to my variance with social stuff. But always the ability to turn it around and get back down.

Pam - I love nutrition studies and have read so much about diet through the years, I like learning all the different theories. I am thrilled with CAD - it makes the most sense to me and I can see it always being my home -especially for maintenance like you. However, I have the desire to get at least 10 pounds off quickly (doc would like it too before I start attempting to get pregnant in a couple of months) and so I am just shaking it up a bit since my loss on CAD has been very slow - probably due to my many social things since starting and vacations. So just experimenting - I don't mind things short term if they give me results - but the best thing is having something permanent to always rely on.

Going to visit some friends after work - so everyone have a good evening!
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:08 PM   #1263
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hello all, Iam rather intrigued with this WOE...have been following FBME for a week and that works well too.Just wondering HOW this could possibly work!! Seems alittle unreal!But ...you guys ARE losing...congrats to all you losers!!! I do not have the book...have just read the info here at the beginning of this thread and tried to read the rest of the thread to follow all your progress.........that took ALL lastnight !!

I wonder if trim milk in hot drinks taken throughout the day would stall one any?
Apppreciate your thoughts,thanks.PAmela

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Old 07-15-2008, 06:44 PM   #1264
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Hi everyone! Well today is my 3rd day on CAD. I have neither lost or gained any weight, but i sure am enjoying my reward meals! Today I had a sonic burger and onion rings. Yesterday steak and peach cobbler. Im only drinking black coffee and diet dr pepper all day and having my RM for supper. Im less hungry all day than When im doing Atkins or eating normally
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:48 PM   #1265
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Amy, so sorry you're tired...why have you been getting up early?

Pam, 28-month-old twins...how adorable...do your two talk much? My little boy is beginning to talk more.

Pamela (dreamy1), you really can't have skim milk or any milk throughout the day (meaning in between CMs or between a CM and your RM). You can have a limited amount of milk or cream with one cup of coffee a day. One of the major principles behind CAD is ingesting food and/or drinks *less frequently* throughout the day. Your body will signal the milk as a food and will produce insulin in response to the glucose in your system and the whole point is to limit that action as much as possible throughout the day. I'm sorry. BUT...CAD is a FANTASTIC way to live. Try it for yourself...it isn't for everyone, but you may as well try. I LOVE CAD and I used to be a huge, huge eater, and a very frequent eater.

Okay, folks, here's what I had today:

CM: chicken breast w/a quarter of a stewed tomato and a sprinkle of cheese
3 celery sticks

RM: barbecued chicken breast
3 cups cucumber salad
brownie
homemade "skinny latte": iced decaf, 1% milk, Splenda & splash of vanilla extract

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Old 07-15-2008, 06:51 PM   #1266
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Hi everyone! Well today is my 3rd day on CAD. I have neither lost or gained any weight, but i sure am enjoying my reward meals! Today I had a sonic burger and onion rings. Yesterday steak and peach cobbler. Im only drinking black coffee and diet dr pepper all day and having my RM for supper. Im less hungry all day than When im doing Atkins or eating normally
Stop it. You're making me drool. Okay, I've gotta make a nice peach cobbler this week and that's the end of that. Congrats on Day 3 and on feeling really good!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:03 PM   #1267
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Glendora - yes, I have twin DD's and they are wonderful! One of them has the vocabulary of a 3-year-old and she talks non-stop in full sentences (I was an advanced talker too and I still yammer on and on)! The other one is a talker too, but average. Girls usually talk before boys I read. And get ready cuz once they start they don't stop! But I guess you know that from your other kids. It's such a fun stage isn't it! I had to clean up my potty-mouth because the other day when DH breaked hard at a traffic light one DD said "f@ck go, just go, f@ck!" Oops! I really don't swear often, only when I am in the car and some yahoo cuts me off and makes me slam on my breaks! So now we say fudge!

Pamela - hey, another Pam! It's not a common name at all so I am always excited to meet another! This woe sounds too good to be true but it works. Cindy and Steph have lost 100 pounds! I lost 15 ten years ago and have maintained on CAD since then (except when I was pregnant and I veered off plan a little). Give it a couple of weeks though. If you were on a strict no or low-carb diet before, you may gain a bit initially but it will come right off! GL!

Tink - are you up early again because your vacation is over? I find diet and nutrition stuff interesting too. At least now I can read it without trying it! lol I hear ya on a quick 10 pounds. What about the fruit flush again?

Denese - oh, I will have to have onion rings and soon! Isn't this woe great? The longer you do it the more second-nature it will be and you will probably start to tweak it too to see what works best for you.

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Old 07-15-2008, 07:22 PM   #1268
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Glendora and Pam
Thanks for your replies, and nice tomeet you both!!I am from New Zealand.
Oh,that's SAD about the milk...I wonder if I could do that....I have always suppported the farmers
OK so if I do it for 2 wks...would you be so kind as to tell me afew LC veg on the allowed list..reading around here it would seem that beans and mushroom are OK.It is too quiet over on the other thread where I have been posting ...I am a people person!!!I would love to join here with you all if you will have me!
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p.s. The one cup of coffee a day is that meant to be had at the RM or can it be first thing before your morning CM?Ta.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:39 PM   #1269
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Hi, Pamela from New Zealand. I just joined this group and the ladies are great! I have skim (trim) milk in my coffee when I get up (2 to 3 cups). I don't eat anything in the morning. I have salad with shrimp and tuna for lunch. And then whatever I want for dinner! I lost six pounds in the last two weeks. It is just amazing - I still can't believe it.
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Pamela - I forgot to address the milk thing. I drink coffee too and I take it with skim (trim) milk and Splenda. I think you should try it out for yourself and see if you lose weight while drinking a bit of milk. When I first started CAD 10 years ago I was very dilligent and followed the rules. Technically you are supposed to have one cup of coffee and drink it within 15 minutes! But, now that I am maintaining, I can be less rigid and more flexible. This means I can have milk in my coffee two-three times a day and I drink Diet Pepsi.. This doesn't seem to affect me, but everyone is different, so try it out and see. If you don't lose after 2 weeks on this plan, cut out the milk and see what happens! If you want to follow the plan to the letter than your coffee should be with cream, if you drink it wil milk it should be for your RM. But if you are like me you need coffee in the morning! lol

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Old 07-15-2008, 08:34 PM   #1271
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Hi, Pamela from New Zealand. I just joined this group and the ladies are great! I have skim (trim) milk in my coffee when I get up (2 to 3 cups). I don't eat anything in the morning. I have salad with shrimp and tuna for lunch. And then whatever I want for dinner! I lost six pounds in the last two weeks. It is just amazing - I still can't believe it.
Hi.Kate..> nice to meet you too! Thanks for that info.
Congrats on the 6 lbs down.....that is great! Definitely gonna give this a go!


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Pamela - I forgot to address the milk thing. I drink coffee too and I take it with skim (trim) milk and Splenda. I think you should try it out for yourself and see if you lose weight while drinking a bit of milk. When I first started CAD 10 years ago I was very dilligent and followed the rules. Technically you are supposed to have one cup of coffee and drink it within 15 minutes! But, now that I am maintaining, I can be less rigid and more flexible. This means I can have milk in my coffee two-three times a day and I drink Diet Pepsi.. This doesn't seem to affect me, but everyone is different, so try it out and see. If you don't lose after 2 weeks on this plan, cut out the milk and see what happens! If you want to follow the plan to the letter than your coffee should be with cream, if you drink it with milk it should be for your RM. But if you are like me you need coffee in the morning! lol

Pam (also a Pamela but Pam is easier to type)! lol
Thanks so much Pam!Maybe I might TRY to go it black to start with as I have a ALOT of tonnage to lose

OK officially starting tomorrow. It is 2.35 pm here wed!Must be later evg on tues for you guys!
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:08 PM   #1272
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You're welcome, NZ Pamela!

Here's a CAD approved CM vegetables list:

VEGETABLES (2 cups raw or 1 cup cooked or mixture/meal; do not count lettuces)
Alfalfa sprouts
Artichoke Hearts
Arugula
Asparagus
Bamboo shoots
Beans (green or wax)
Bean Sprouts
Cabbage, all kinds
Capers
Cauliflower
Celery
Chicory
Collard Greens
Cucumbers
Dill Pickles
Eggplant
Endive
Fennel
Kale
Kohlrabi
Lettuce, all kinds
Mushrooms
Mustard Greens
Okra
Onions (2 tbsp)
Parsley
Peppers
Pimientos
Radishes
Sauerkraut
Scallions
Sorrel
Spinach
Squash (summer only)
Swiss Chard
Tomatoes (raw, ¼ only)
Turnip Greens
Watercress
Zucchini
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:19 PM   #1273
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Aww Glendora thankyou so much for taking the time to do that!
REALLY appreciate you doing that seeing I do not have the book yet.I am trying to rest up my leg as much as possible as I have a very small ulcer on my outer right ankle.It is not healing as quick as I would like it too but the good news is I am not diabetic and BSL are all normal and no family history diabetes!
However thetre IS a dfamily history of vv's and my mumm has chronic leg ulcers so an urgency to see this all healed up. Losing weight is only going to help in everyway!
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:38 PM   #1274
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Pamela, it actually came off another internet site. But they had copied it directly from the book. Good luck!!!
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:49 PM   #1275
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Well thanks anyway Glendora
I shall weigh in the a.m. and go from there.I have quite afew vegies on hand so have what I need to get started.
This could be alot of fun!
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:53 AM   #1276
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Good Morning Ladies, I am so thrilled today. I am down .4 lbs again today. That makes a total of 4 lbs. in 3 days...

Welcome dreamy1, we are so glad to have you with us and good luck on your weight loss journey. There are a bunch of super ladies on here and help in anyway they can...
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:56 AM   #1277
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The pink didn't show up too well, so I will now post that part again. I am down another .4 lbs today and that make a total of 4 lbs. in 3 days...

I am a little concerned though. We are having company again weekend after next and every time I get started on my WOE good then we have company. It happens every time. I just got through having company for 8 days...but some way I will make it...
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Patty - KUTGW! Is your headache gone?

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Glendora - just curious? Which internet site were you able to find the list of the CM veggies? That is really helpful!

NZ Pamela - give this a try. I am really liking it. I have never had a WOE work like this one - one that I know I can live with and not have it be a fight every day.

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Kate
Thank you Darling and I hope to be back in the 160's one of these days.

Yes, I was having a hungry headache, but after I ate last night I was fine.
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Welcome, dreamy1! I hope your leg heals quickly and that you'll enjoy this WOE. After a long absence, I've been back for a week or so and I'm amazed at how busy this thread is. You'll get a lot of advice and encouragement here.

Way to go, Patty, on your 4 pound loss.

Yesterday was DD20's birthday. I've been referring to her as DDalmost20 for a couple of weeks or so because it was so close. She's so grown up! I can hardly believe I no longer have a teenager. Times flies. We had a family party last evening, and she also invited her two best friends. DH cooked burgers and weiners on the grill and had a good time visiting. Then, we played Wii for awhile. Lots of fun!

I stumbled off my food plan, though. I let my guard down by deciding to have my RM for lunch and stick to CM foods for dinner, which should have been easy. But I ended up eating a bit of cantaloupe and grapes my Mom brought. It wasn't that I COULDN'T resist them, it's that I CHOSE NOT to resist them. And then I ate a couple of other things I didn't really need to. My own fault. I'm not even going to get on the scales today for fear of discouraging myself. My weight jumps up and down easily. I'll just get right back on plan today, though.

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Question, again guys. Yesterday did RM at lunch, and when supper rolled around, I knew I was really, really thirsty. I made a quart of Crystal light tea and made sure I drank it within an hour of starting to eat.

I know the RM rule is to eat in 60 minutes or less. The question is if with CMs, the drinking of sweetened drinks fall into that same 60 minute rule? If so, that would help me tremendously with fluid intakes, I think.

I did not gain any weight on starting CAD. I basically haven't been LC for quite awhile--maybe a reduced carb from previous eating habits.........but a whole .5 down today. Not getting any hopes up, but at least not going up.

Also, last night I had 1/2 lb ground beef, lettuce salad with bacon, cheese and ranch, and 2 celery and peanut butter stalks. Does the salad have to be eaten first? I tend to eat the warm food, and then eat the salad. I have to feed the family, so no real time to sit down to a salad and then dish up warm food........
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Hello. I started the CAD program four days ago. I have done CAD in the past and lost initially, but for one reason or other I have always quit in the past. I have had such a terrible obsession with the scale for so long I have been unable to step on the scale. So I'm not sure about the weight loss. But I am already feeling better mentally. I don't wake up in the morning and in the middle of the night trying to remember what I binged on, or what I'm going to eat as soon as my feet hit the floor. ALthough my RM's are still pretty large and not very healthy I am beginning to feel more in control. Thanks everybody for being so supportive!
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HI, everyone I am just starting on this way of eating and I am looking forward to getting to know each of you and learning the ins and out of eating this way.
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