Falling into a depression mode.... stalling... trying K/E starting TODAY!!!

[Latoyab]

Okay, I'm going to give this plan a try starting today. I am on Atkins and have come to a stall. (About a week) I exercise everyday, except the weekends, and I'm still at a stall. My exercise includes about 25 min on the elliptical (2 miles) and an exercise class of spinning or aerobic bodyshaping (step) 45 mins. I don't know what the problem is. I'm noticing myself falling into a depression mode, because I know that I have not been eating much at all, and I do go to the gym, but.... I do have one problem though. My fiance' drinks liqour and beer on the weekend. I fall into the category of liqour. Question..... if I drink liqour on Saturday, can I go to the gym and work it off on Sunday? I'm going to start this K/E (meat and eggs) regardless!!! Maybe I"ll come out of this stall. I'll let you all know my progress on Monday!!!

[Xcali]

One week stall is nothing. Its probably just your body adjusting. I know when I was trying to lose, I would have periods where I hit a plateau for a bit, but the weight would finally come off.

As far as drinking, it could cause a stall as your body is going to burn those carbs/sugar first, before it goes back to fat burning. Going to the gym is a good idea no matter what, but I don't think you can "technically" burn off the alcohol. Not sure about that one, to be honest.

Doing K/E definitely won't hurt, it might help getting out of the stall. Again, though, a one week stall is nothing to get depressed about. Our bodies occasionally need some time to adjust to our new WOL.

Good luck !!

[sammo]

Originally Posted by Latoyab

Okay, I'm going to give this plan a try starting today. I am on Atkins and have come to a stall. (About a week) I exercise everyday, except the weekends, and I'm still at a stall. My exercise includes about 25 min on the elliptical (2 miles) and an exercise class of spinning or aerobic bodyshaping (step) 45 mins. I don't know what the problem is. I'm noticing myself falling into a depression mode, because I know that I have not been eating much at all, and I do go to the gym, but.... I do have one problem though. My fiance' drinks liqour and beer on the weekend. I fall into the category of liqour. Question..... if I drink liqour on Saturday, can I go to the gym and work it off on Sunday? I'm going to start this K/E (meat and eggs) regardless!!! Maybe I"ll come out of this stall. I'll let you all know my progress on Monday!!!

Lay off the alcohol - alcohol is a CNS (central nervous system) depressor - it is also a mood depressor.

K/E is a wonderful way to break a stall - but, in my opinion it won't work as well as it should if you drink alcohol.

[Latoyab]

Okay. I'm going to try not to drink anything this weekend. (It's just so darn hard without the support from my fiance'!) Like tonight, he will have a bottle, but I've already told myself that I'm not drinking today. So, maybe I can go throughout the whole weekend without having one and maybe that will help break this stall. I'm SOOO upset!!! I've been trying and trying and nothing's working. This is exactly week 4!! The 12th was exactly ONE month! I am now at 210. So, that is 16lbs. I was looking for more!! Now, with my s...t...a..l...l, it's slowed me down! I've been reading about people having a WHOOSH!!!, but mine has not came YET!!! When I did Atkins about 4 mths ago, I lost 31lbs in 2mths, and I thought that was excellent!!!
To be honest with you all, I'm in a weight loss contest, and I thought this could be the beginning of a new WOE. (It ends Dec 21) I'm also getting married in June 2007, so it's another good reason to start NOW!!! WHAT IS HOLDING ME UP????? This is no lie, I have not had any alcohol since last Sunday, so.... that can't be it!!!

[DEBI IN OHIO]

If losing 31 pounds in 2 months is excellent to you, why is 16 lbs in one month so bad?? thats running at the same rate!!
I think maybe u should post a few days menus, with EXACT foods and amounts, more people will be able to help you, but I dont see that u are having any problem at all.
1. one week isnt stalling
2. your body burns off alcohol burns before fat, delaying weight loss
3.u mentioned not eating much, this could also be a problem

[Latoyab]

Okay. I don't think I'm going to hit 16 this month, because another month is the 12th of December. I'm still at the same weight I was on the 12th. (I may be beating myself too hard in the head, I don't know!!) Anyway, I'll give you a couple of menus:

Today: So far.... nothing. I was not hungry for breakfast.
Lunch: Lean pork chop (I'm going in a few minutes)
Dinner: I don't know yet

Yesterday - Yucky day - I didn't cook the night before, so I stopped by the store on my way to work. (We had a potluck at work, so... I thought it was best)
Breakfast: Beef & Cheese stick
Lunch: Pork skins
Dinner: Shrimp

Wednesday
Breakfast: 1 1/2 Scrambled eggs (2oz)
Lunch: Taco salad (lettuce, 2 tbsp salsa, 2tbsp sour cream, 2tbsp cheese & 2oz beef w/ taco seasoning)
Dinner: 2 chicken wings

I exercise almost daily. (I did skip Wednesday) I do cardio for at least 1hr and 15 min. (elliptical 25 min, spinning or step aerobic 45 min..bodyshaping)

[sueo]

Are you entering your daily consumption into something like fitday? What you have listed does not seem like very many calories. I don't see too many vegetables listed, either. I'd say, lay off the alcohol and eat more. Minimum daily calories I'd think should be at least 1000.

[Latoyab]

No. I don' eat many veggies. I do eat salads every now and again though. I love broccoli, but it has a high amount of carbs. I do eat it though, just not any this week. Someone else told me that on another thread. Do you think that could be causing my stall? Not enough veggies? I did have to take an enema the other day (is that too much info?), because I am not using the bathroom like I should. I tried to take coconut oil...NOTHING. I do enter my foods on Fitday, not every day but at least 3-4 times per week. I don't eat 1000 calories. It's far below that. I asked about that on another thread and starvation, and members said don't worry about it, I'd have to be WAY below calories for that to happen, and it won't happen overnight.

By the way, I'm not an alcoholic. (just wanted to let everyone know) I do drink socially though. Mainly on the weekends. Saturday and maybe Sunday. I stay away from alcohol throughout the week.

[melo42]

HI, I think you need more veggies. Linda Sue has some great recipes on her site.Have a look at it.I agree you are doing great at loseing.Sixteen pounds is great.You might want to try a fiber pill.As long as you do not drink alot then get hungry and eat a no no food I don`t think a drink or two will stall you.Alcohol does burn off first.Drink alot of water after you drink. That may help. Good Luck !!!

[sueo]

If you're going to do the K/E plan, then I don't know enough about what the requirements are there except for meat/egg products. Are there veggies included in that plan?

If you're going to continue on with Atkins, you definitely need to up the veggies. Even in induction you're supposed to be eating them twice per day, 20 g carbs daily, then in 5 gram increments daily per week until you find your best level for OWL.

[sammo]

Originally Posted by Latoyab

Okay. I'm going to try not to drink anything this weekend. (It's just so darn hard without the support from my fiance'!) Like tonight, he will have a bottle,....., I have not had any alcohol since last Sunday, so.... that can't be it!!!

A bottle of what? beer or alcohol? His drinking is not unsupportive of you - you decide if you will drink.

Yes you if drink on weekends it can affect you for days. It takes many days for your liver to clear it out - especially if this is a habit.

I am not so sure you understand how the K/E plan works - have you reviewed the thread? or visited the site?

maybe the most productive thing you could do now is write down your goals & plan for your continued weight loss. read up on all the plans so you are sure you understand what will work the best for you. commit to using the fitday - it is a valuable tool for keeping you on track. plan your shopping & cooking so you can be sucessful.

[GetFitMom]

Originally Posted by Latoyab

No. I don' eat many veggies. I do eat salads every now and again though. I love broccoli, but it has a high amount of carbs. I do eat it though, just not any this week. Someone else told me that on another thread. Do you think that could be causing my stall? Not enough veggies? I did have to take an enema the other day (is that too much info?), because I am not using the bathroom like I should. I tried to take coconut oil...NOTHING. I do enter my foods on Fitday, not every day but at least 3-4 times per week. I don't eat 1000 calories. It's far below that. I asked about that on another thread and starvation, and members said don't worry about it, I'd have to be WAY below calories for that to happen, and it won't happen overnight.

By the way, I'm not an alcoholic. (just wanted to let everyone know) I do drink socially though. Mainly on the weekends. Saturday and maybe Sunday. I stay away from alcohol throughout the week.

I'm just wondering have you read Dr. Atkins book or are you doing low carb based on the information you found online? The information online is just the tip of the iceberg and Dr. Atkins would have said - eat your veggies. Brocolli is not a no-no. I would be more concerned about the alcohol.

It seems like you want the weight gone but not make permanent lifestyle changes to ensure the weight does not return. In that case, K/E will work just fine.

I did it but then you have to think about how to come off of K/E without gaining back the weight. It ain't easy!!!

I used to weigh in the 200's my first time doing Atkins (before kids) and I can say that you are NOT eating enough. Most likely you were eating 3-4 x (most likely more) the amount of calories and carbs you are eating now before starting low carb. You're body might drop the weight by nibbling on lean meats and hard boiled eggs but what's the point of taking a photo at your wedding at a size you will have to work like crazy to sustain?

Even if you lost another 20lbs at a slower rate before June 2007 it would be better than people saying wow Latoya you look great and then in 6 months realize you were probably starving yourself just to look good for your wedding instead of making permanent life changes.

With all the exercise you are doing and then severely cutting back on cals and carbs, your body is pretty much freaked out. K/E will shock it but at what cost?

[Latoyab]

Okay. I tried K/E for that ONE day, that will NOT work!!! The meat and eggs....UH-Uh!!! I have eaten so many eggs that when I try and swallow an egg white, it feels as if I have some pieces left in my throat. Even when they're scrambled, they're starting to taste funny. I do eat deviled eggs though. I want to lose weight and look right. I can admit that I don't look like I weigh 210lbs. My body still has curves, but I'm in a 16!!! (I don't know, I haven't been shopping lately, and the last time I was that size, I wore a 14, so...we'll see when I go out for a "Thanksgiving oufit"!!! Anyway, when I tried Atkins at first, liqour did not stall me. I drunk about 3 shots per night (Saturday & Sunday) and that was it. NOT a whole bottle!! ALCOHOLIC.....NOT!!!

[Latoyab]

I do have a child, and I couldn't see myself drinking alcohol every day. I have to focus on him right now. He's what really matters, to be honest. I took CPR today, and while we were doing the 30 compressions and 2 breaths for 5 minutes, I didn't even get tired. So, does that mean that the exercises that I'm doing are paying off? I want to see them pay off body wise. I want my weight to get down. What else can I do, besides NOT taking my shots on the weekends? (Keeping in mind that I'm NOT an alcoholic!!! The way it seems is that you all think that I'm drinking EVERY SINGLE DAY, getting sloppy drunk walking down the street swerving from side to side) That's not me!! I have an every day job, I workout, I take care of my responsibilities, and I drink sociallably, ON THE WEEKENDS!!! Please....don't get it twisted! What can I do?

[My_Sharona]

If your goal is to lose weight fast, don't drink! Nobody is calling you an alcoholic!

Read the book......

The body burns alcohol for fuel when alcohol is available. So when it is burning alcohol, your body will not burn body fat. This does not stop weight loss, it simply postpones it.

What else can I do, besides NOT taking my shots on the weekends?

Have some patience. It will come off if you commit to Atkins 100%.
Best wishes!

[sammo]

[quote=Latoyab;7766320]Okay. I tried K/E for that ONE day, that will NOT work!!! The meat and eggs....UH-Uh!!! I have eaten so many eggs that when I try and swallow an egg white, it feels as if I have some pieces left in my throat. Even when they're scrambled, they're starting to taste funny. I do eat deviled eggs though.QUOTE]


Okay based on what you wrote -you were not doing K/E. You really have to read about it if you plan on doing it correctly.

If you are going back to atkins - do yourself a favor & get the book - either the '72 or the 1990's version & follow it like it is a bible. Take every word literally and do exactly what the doc lays out - no deviations.

You have to give yourself a chance to be a sucess.

[Latoyab]

Okay. Sammo, I do have the Atkins book, and I did read it. I may need to read it again though. When I first bought that book, it was years ago, so I may need to re-read. As far as me trying the K/E plan (Meat & Eggs), I didn't eat any deviled eggs. I only ate meat and about 2 hard boiled eggs. The eggs will not work for me. Maybe I should have been a little bit clearer on what I was saying. Right now, when I eat boiled eggs, the whites feel like they're getting stuck in my throat. That day when I tried the K/E plan, I didn't eat deviled eggs, I only ate hard boiled eggs. Sorry if that was misleading. I was just going by these boards as far as the K/E plan was concerned. I had never heard of it until I got here. I think it takes a lot of determination to do that. I'm just getting soooo sick of eggs!!! By the way, when I got on the scale, I dropped 3 more lbs.

[Xcali]

Latoyab ....

I still think you're being a bit hard on yourself. Your body is not going to continuously drop large amounts of weight every month, it does slow down after the initial "shock" of healthy eating. I looked back to my journals from when I lost, and the first six weeks of Atkins I lost 28 lbs, (I did strict induction for the first 3 weeks, then moved up to OWL). After that, I stalled for about 2 weeks, then lost another 8 lbs came off. That 8 lbs. was a huge "whoosh" in one week. I knew my body was just adjusting to my new WOL and needed some time.

During the induction phase, I followed the book exactly, no cheats, no deviations. I'm a huge wine drinker, usually a glass a day, but during induction, nothing, not even a sip. Once I up moved up the rung a bit, I slowly added wine back in, keeping to a glass or two a week. I didn't go back to my glass a day until I was way into maintenance. Keep in mind, lol, I'm in the wine business, and on average, taste approximately 20 different wines a week. So if I could quit drinking to lose, anybody can. There are plenty of people who enjoy cocktails and still lose/maintain their weight, however, it will and does slow things down a bit.

I lost about 65 lbs. over 7 months, so my average was 9 lbs a month, with the biggest loss coming in the first 6 weeks, then slowing down after that.

You've got to remember, this is not a "crash" diet, its got to be a WOL or IMHO, it just will NOT work.

Just re-read the book, I've been maintaining for 5 yrs. now, and I still refer back to it quite a bit. It keeps me focused. Remember, slow and steady is by far better for you. You are not dieting, you are changing your eating lifestyle, and making a new WOL for you. If you try do this fast, in "panic" mode, you are setting yourself up to fail, you're not teaching yourself to eat properly, you're just "crash" dieting, which I think a majority of posters will agree never works.

Stay on plan, exercise, re-read the book and don't freak out or panic at stalls. Be kind to your body and understand its going through changes. You do this and you'll be happier in the long run.

Good Luck

[Latoyab]

Thanks Xcali. I don't think I'm doing a crash diet. I'm changing the way I eat. I basically measure out everything by ounces. 4oz of this, 4oz of that. I KNOW my stomach has shrunk. I was to the point where I tried to eat a sausage, and I couldn't even get it down my throat! (I may have been going at it too hard) My fiance' told me that I need to eat more. He didn't think I was eating enough. I agree, I may need to read the book over, but I would like to read Atkins 72. I have been on Induction since October 12th, so I believe that's why I feel the way I do. My weight is less in the mornings than it is in the afternoons. (AFTER I have filled up on about a gallon of water) Even though I drink a lot of water, I expel quite frequently!!! As far as the alchol is concerned, I know I can stop drinking. It's just the environment that I'm in. I can chose to get myself out of that environment, but that's my family, so it's kind of hard. I did VERY good this weekend, so I hope that with the holidays being here, I'm able to be as strong as I was last weekend. By the scale this morning, I dropped another 3 lbs, but we'll see what it reads when I get home this afternoon. Thanks and have a BLESSED Thanksgiving!!

[Xcali]

Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Remember, don't be so hard on yourself. Eat when you are hungry, just eat on plan. Don't starve yourself (you'll just slow down your metabolism), and enjoy your healthier, thinner self!!