the zone diet?

scarletakb · 01-04-2006, 10:47 AM

does anyone know if the zone diet is lo-carb?

dae_tona · 01-04-2006, 10:52 AM

I've heard it is, but I really don't know. It might be more moderate carb than low carb.

PamB · 01-04-2006, 10:53 AM

Its lower carb but you have to balance everything out. I did it a few years ago, was always hungry and it was a pain. It does work, slower than Atkins and is very easy to cheat on.

scarletakb · 01-04-2006, 10:56 AM

thanks! I guess what I am looking for is a plan, where I can still have some fruit (not just berries) and also have some grains. I don't care about refined carbs at all.. I'm more interested in hearty grain breads, or brown rices.. or whole grain pastas.. perhaps 2 or 3 times a week..

I currently do atkins.. been doing atkins for almost 4 years.. and have struggled, and have never lost all my weight. partially because I get sooo bored. if I could add a bit of fruits, or grains and balance it in a way that I could still lose some weight.. I'd sure love it..

Would Southbeach work?

PamB · 01-04-2006, 11:02 AM

I don't know much about South Beach. It is lower carb also, includes fruit, whole grains from what I understand and is more low fat I think. You can check the Zone diet out on line - just google zone diet and go to Dr. Sears and when you get to the website you can go to getting started for some info. Maybe South Beach has basic info on line also. HTH

pooticus · 01-04-2006, 12:00 PM

its "balanced" 40-30-30 40% from carbs (low glycemic), 30% from protein (lean protein), 30% from fats (monounsaturated). it's a good diet if u can stick with it. i lost steadily on it. the belief is that ur body must have the proper ratio at each meal of carbs/prot/fats in order to control insulin surges. u eat 3 meals and 2 snacks a day.

it is based on the principle of "eicosonoids" the "superhormones" that regulate all other hormones in ur body...(i.e. gla, ala, epa, etc).

for me, it was very regimented. and the cals weren't very high (about 1200/day). that would be fine for some but as a 278.8 lb woman right now, i think 1200 is too low for calories for the short term.

vickyraebrown · 01-04-2006, 12:22 PM

All diets work. So long as you stick with them.

scarletakb · 01-04-2006, 01:06 PM

oh, vicki... if only that was true!! I have no problem with will power, and have religiously stuck with more diets than I can count.. and have more often than not... stayed the same, and in some cases.. GAINED weight.

One time I went on a diet prescribed my a dietician... and I followed it to a t... gained 11 pounds in one month...

ellagurl · 01-04-2006, 01:13 PM

South beach sounds like the plan for you! After phase one, which is like Atkins induction (2 weeks), you can incorporate whole grains ( I think its 2 a day) and up to 3 fruits a day. Keep in mind in order to compensate for the higher carbs, you have to lower your fat intake.

CarolynF · 01-04-2006, 01:14 PM

Hi,

I've had experience with the Zone..very hard to follow..as each snack has to be totally balanced..Somersizing is a good plan..You can have whole grains, but just NO fat with them..Sugar Busters is another plan that allows whole grains and fruits.

And...you know Atkins allows that too...the whole grains and the fruit..if you diligently follow the Carb Ladder..and go through the process..Whole grains are the last thing to add..and apples/oranges are in the middle somewhere. I really never did this..

, but this time I'm going to follow the Carb Ladder and find my CCL for Maintenance..

But, I think when you add the grains/other fruit, it is important to lower the fat..It's like a seesaw..Most people can't have it both ways..fat and grainy carbs..that's how
I got fat myself..LOL

marlavm · 01-04-2006, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Hi,

And...you know Atkins allows that too...the whole grains and the fruit..if you diligently follow the Carb Ladder..and go through the process..Whole grains are the last thing to add..and apples/oranges are in the middle somewhere. I really never did this.., but this time I'm going to follow the Carb Ladder and find my CCL for Maintenance..

But, I think when you add the grains/other fruit, it is important to lower the fat..It's like a seesaw..Most people can't have it both ways..fat and grainy carbs..that's how
I got fat myself..LOL

This is SUCH a great point about Atkins that most people don't realize or forget!!! There are manyl Atkins Maintainers on this board who have successfully incorporated sweet potatoes, beans and fruit.

Marla

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CarolynF Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 20,102 Gallery: CarolynF Stats: 195/144/139 WOE: Eat Fat, Get Thin/I Can Make You Thin Start Date: January 2001	Hi, I've had experience with the Zone..very hard to follow..as each snack has to be totally balanced..Somersizing is a good plan..You can have whole grains, but just NO fat with them..Sugar Busters is another plan that allows whole grains and fruits. And...you know Atkins allows that too...the whole grains and the fruit..if you diligently follow the Carb Ladder..and go through the process..Whole grains are the last thing to add..and apples/oranges are in the middle somewhere. I really never did this.., but this time I'm going to follow the Carb Ladder and find my CCL for Maintenance.. But, I think when you add the grains/other fruit, it is important to lower the fat..It's like a seesaw..Most people can't have it both ways..fat and grainy carbs..that's how I got fat myself..LOL

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01-04-2006, 10:52 AM	#2
dae_tona MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Soon to be AZ!!!!!!!! Posts: 2,042 Gallery: dae_tona Stats: Size 18/Size 4 WOE: LC	I've heard it is, but I really don't know. It might be more moderate carb than low carb.

01-04-2006, 10:53 AM	#3
PamB Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 953 Gallery: PamB Stats: 147/Maintain 130-135 WOE: Low carb Start Date: 02/2003	Its lower carb but you have to balance everything out. I did it a few years ago, was always hungry and it was a pain. It does work, slower than Atkins and is very easy to cheat on.

01-04-2006, 10:56 AM	#4
scarletakb MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,008 Gallery: scarletakb	thanks! I guess what I am looking for is a plan, where I can still have some fruit (not just berries) and also have some grains. I don't care about refined carbs at all.. I'm more interested in hearty grain breads, or brown rices.. or whole grain pastas.. perhaps 2 or 3 times a week.. I currently do atkins.. been doing atkins for almost 4 years.. and have struggled, and have never lost all my weight. partially because I get sooo bored. if I could add a bit of fruits, or grains and balance it in a way that I could still lose some weight.. I'd sure love it.. Would Southbeach work?

01-04-2006, 11:02 AM	#5
PamB Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 953 Gallery: PamB Stats: 147/Maintain 130-135 WOE: Low carb Start Date: 02/2003	I don't know much about South Beach. It is lower carb also, includes fruit, whole grains from what I understand and is more low fat I think. You can check the Zone diet out on line - just google zone diet and go to Dr. Sears and when you get to the website you can go to getting started for some info. Maybe South Beach has basic info on line also. HTH

01-04-2006, 12:22 PM	#7
vickyraebrown MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 1,010 Gallery: vickyraebrown Stats: 210/145/130 WOE: Simple Low Carb Start Date: Summer 2004	All diets work. So long as you stick with them.

01-04-2006, 01:06 PM	#8
scarletakb MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,008 Gallery: scarletakb	oh, vicki... if only that was true!! I have no problem with will power, and have religiously stuck with more diets than I can count.. and have more often than not... stayed the same, and in some cases.. GAINED weight. One time I went on a diet prescribed my a dietician... and I followed it to a t... gained 11 pounds in one month...

01-04-2006, 01:13 PM	#9
ellagurl Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 662 Gallery: ellagurl	South beach sounds like the plan for you! After phase one, which is like Atkins induction (2 weeks), you can incorporate whole grains ( I think its 2 a day) and up to 3 fruits a day. Keep in mind in order to compensate for the higher carbs, you have to lower your fat intake.