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cici52 08-06-2013 04:03 PM

Seeking kombucha brewers support.
 
New to kombucha. Love it. Want to start homr brewing. Looking for how to get startrd.

metqa 08-06-2013 04:31 PM

Well, first you get a jar, then you get or grow a scoby.
Then you brew some tea, and sweeten it with real white sugar. No honey, honey!
Then you cool the tea, and put it in your jar, and add some white distilled vinegar.
No Apple Cider, you lush!
Then you float that scoby in that jar and cover the whole shebang with a tightly woven non shedding cloth and rubber band.
Then you wait, and you taste, and you wait and you taste, till you like it.
Then you put it in some bottles , or you drink it, but not before taking some out, and starting again, but using the finished kombucha as the vinegar the second time.
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Or you can buy some kombucha, make some sweet tea and pour the kombucha into the tea and wait , and grow your own scoby from the starter tea you just made.

Congratulations, you've just made your own Kombucha. Now wasn't that easy? :D

cici52 08-06-2013 05:44 PM

Wow, thanks! Didn't know I could raise my own scoby. Can't believe I am going to go buy WHITE SUGAR! Wonder what the ancients used? Will have to smuggle it in in the dark of night.

Mimosa23 08-07-2013 04:44 AM

Metqa, I've never used vinegar in my home brew, is there a reason why I should start?

I've always used some brew from the previous batch...

Cici, welcome to the wonderful world of kombucha!!!!!!

I've given scobys to friends and used them for my compost heap... You grow a new scoby each brew, so you can imagine....

I used unrefined cane sugar, it's not white but light brown. It has not gone through a bleaching process. I also use oolong tea or green tea or a combination of the two to make my kombucha. It really depends on your tastes! I do recommend starting off simple, with white sugar and black tea and once you get the hang of it you can experiment a little with the type of sugar (no honey!!!) and the type of tea (no fruit or herbal infusions!!!) and doing a second ferment with fruits or fruit juices...

Have fun Cici!!!

metqa 08-07-2013 05:46 AM

White vinegar is only for starting from scratch when you don't have any actual liquid kombucha to provide the acid environment to protect the sweet tea from undesirable pathogens while the scoby is establishing residence. If you have finished kombucha, you can use that.

Mimosa23 08-07-2013 07:02 AM

Ah, thanks for the info! I got my scoby in starter liquid, so of course I never knew, I just started the way I'm continuing, LOL!

metqa 08-07-2013 10:58 AM

That's the best way to start, since the vinegar only adds acid but no flavor, the first batch started with vinegar buffer is not as tasty as subsequent batches.

cici52 08-09-2013 05:20 AM

I'm off to get supplies today. My first kombucha was flavored. Will that be okay to start to grow a scoby or do I need k with no added flavors?

terez 08-09-2013 08:39 AM

Cici, here's more info:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/or...one-using.html

metqa 08-10-2013 06:24 PM

I personally think starting with unflavored is more assured of success, but I've heard of several people starting from flavored. Since the store bought one is safely bottled, there is probably little chance of bad contamination. But any flavoring you do on your own should be on tea removed from the mother container to not contaminate it.

cici52 08-10-2013 07:47 PM

Thanks. I started my first today. I see on the internet that some say starting from store bought is no longer considered reliable. We shall see. I used plain raw organic k. plus black tea and turbino sugar.

Jakelilydad 09-08-2014 04:10 PM

Cici52, did the store bought grow you a scoby? I'm very curious about all this.

cici52 09-08-2014 04:33 PM

no :(

Jakelilydad 09-08-2014 05:04 PM

I heard that they changed it so that it would no longer grow a new one. Bummer. I have found some for sale online, but they are typically dried and it takes a month or so to re-hydrate them. Wonder if Craigslist would have any nearby?

cici52 09-08-2014 05:14 PM

Good luck. Please let me know if you find a source. I got disenchanted in the process of looking and gave up but know I would like to do this.

Jakelilydad 09-11-2014 07:14 PM

A guy I know says he is going to start making Kombucha to sell at the Farmers' Market. I wonder whether that stuff would let me grow my own SCOBY?

terez 09-12-2014 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakelilydad (Post 17033911)
A guy I know says he is going to start making Kombucha to sell at the Farmers' Market. I wonder whether that stuff would let me grow my own SCOBY?

It should, if it's not the "enlightened" kind, meaning changed in 2010.

Janknitz 09-13-2014 08:36 AM

I grew a SCOBY just fine from a bottle of GT kombucha. I went through the shelf to look for a bottle with a well-formed SCOBY in it. That same SCOBY has been used for 1 1/2 years in my continuous brew system.

I think the rumor that you can't grow a SCOBY from commercial KT came from someone who sells some high priced scobys.

cici52 09-13-2014 08:58 AM

Cool success, Jan. I tried a couple times with no luck. However, someone has agreed to send me one for postage so I am hopeful.

cfine 09-13-2014 05:17 PM

I make kombucha for my DD but I'm always afraid to drink it because of carbs. If I knew how many were in it I might be more inclined to drink 2-4oz per day. Bummer!

terez 09-13-2014 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfine (Post 17035475)
I make kombucha for my DD but I'm always afraid to drink it because of carbs. If I knew how many were in it I might be more inclined to drink 2-4oz per day. Bummer!

It doesn't slow me down; if you do a second ferment and add a cup of sugar to the gallon of booch before bottling it, you can wait a week to drink it and the booch will eat the sugar. You can tell because it's fermented and has bubbles.

The trick is to make sure the sugar (I use organic white) is thoroughly mixed, or you will have some bottles fizzy and others flat. Also, when you fill up the bottles for the 2nd ferment, fill them almost all the way to the top of the bottle, including the neck. Otherwise, they'll be flat and form a new scoby. I had to learn this the hard way. Over and over.

I usually use cherry juice or pomegranate, but in a real pinch, I'll use V-8 Splash.

Jakelilydad 09-15-2014 10:31 PM

Has anyone checked their blood sugar after drinking Kombucha? I, too, worry about the sugar in it, though just bought some mixed with chia seed so only 3 net carbs per cup, or that is what the label says.

metqa 09-16-2014 07:35 AM

The rumor came from the fact that they changed the biological family of the bacteria in the scoby in recent formulas.

It's not that you can't grow one from commercial, it's that the commercial ones are different now than they used to be. Some people prefer the old scoby matrix to the new one designed to limiti alcohol production ( not that there is much in there to begin with) , but it does limit how much it can ferment and I like my ferments to be strong and vinegary. I'd not like it to stay mild and sweet.

You can't grown KeFIR from commercial sources since it does not include kefir grains. But that's a different beverage.

cfine 09-17-2014 04:54 PM

I usually do a 14 day ferment so it probably doesn't have any sugar left. I do a second ferment for my DD. I put a handful of berries in and then let it set for two more days but I have never added more sugar to it. I might try a couple of ounces and see what happens.


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