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WendyWanders 04-23-2010 10:33 AM

Kefir
 
Does anyone indulge in kefir? Before I went low carb, I would buy kefir with fruit and sugar. Yesterday I spent a loooooong time in the grocery store, reading labels on EVERYTHING.

I was super excited when I found that plain kefir had a net carb count of 9 per cup! If it's true that cultured dairy products have an even lower carb content than listed because the good bacteria eat up the carbs, then this is a great find :kicking:

I bought Lifeway Organic Lowfat Kefir Cultured Milk Probiotic with 10 active cultures. I feel soooooo much better when I regularly eat yogurt, buttermilk and kefir.

ravenrose 04-23-2010 09:29 PM

That's terrific! I do think that theory about the milk sugar being eaten up was discredited though. It turned out the guy was only testing for lactose, and the bacteria was converting the sugar to a slightly different form, but still the same carbs. Too bad.

rightnow 04-23-2010 11:00 PM

Have you guys ever tried making yogurt entirely with heavy cream? Is there any reason not to?

tamari 04-24-2010 03:53 PM

Love kefir. I just started making my own back in February.

Faia 04-25-2010 09:28 AM

We make our own kefir, no ingredient *list*, just cultured milk. I've never had commercial kefir products.

oyvey 04-25-2010 01:25 PM

I like water kefir a bunch (make it now), but never figured out how to get homemade milk kefir beyond the super sour kinda yeasty flavor (only tolerable in a smoothie), so I gave up on it. The commercial ones can be really good, I think.

debkeversole 04-25-2010 01:33 PM

i love kefir!!!! i just add a little davincis to the plain never had water kefir though

Faia 04-25-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by oyvey (Post 13410685)
I like water kefir a bunch (make it now), but never figured out how to get homemade milk kefir beyond the super sour kinda yeasty flavor (only tolerable in a smoothie), so I gave up on it. The commercial ones can be really good, I think.

How long are you letting it go for? It is generally supposed to go for 24 hours, if it is getting too strong before that, then it either needs more milk, or reduce the amount of the kefir grains by a small bit. (It is the ratio of grains to milk that determines how fast it cultures and the faster it goes the narrower the "good" window is.)

DelhiBelli 04-25-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Have you guys ever tried making yogurt entirely with heavy cream? Is there any reason not to?
I would like to but heavy cream without all the additives isn't available here. I've luckily found half and half and that makes a sinful yogurt/kefir.

nutzoaboutfood 05-10-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rightnow (Post 13406379)
Have you guys ever tried making yogurt entirely with heavy cream? Is there any reason not to?

I haven't tried, however, I have attempted to add some cream to my whole milk when making it, and it results in this nasty, chaulky film/layer across the top of the yogurt, that I have to scrape off. I am assuming that it is the cream that somehow seperated. Also, I tried making my yogurt with non-homogenized whole milk, and it did the same thing, only to a lesser degree. And I even tried putting the non-homogenized milk in the vitamix first to blend up all the cream (which did work), however, the cream still rose to the top of the yogurt somehow. I'm thinking that the homogenation process somehow suspends the cream into the milk and locks it there to make a more creamy, smooth, and even yogurt.

Dottie 06-07-2011 11:16 AM

Bumping an old thread, but I was thinking about buying some kefir grains. How do you store them if you're not using them? Any recipes? I'm very interested in the pro-biotic action!

iamfaithful 06-22-2011 03:47 PM

kefir storage
 
Kefir grsins (not really grains like a Scoby is not a mushroom) are stored in the fridge in the same medium they are cultured. IE: milk kefir in milk & water kefir in sugar water. Hope this helps!

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Dottie 06-22-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iamfaithful (Post 14761421)
Kefir grsins (not really grains like a Scoby is not a mushroom) are stored in the fridge in the same medium they are cultured. IE: milk kefir in milk & water kefir in sugar water. Hope this helps!

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ty and lol I know what you mean. My phone may not be smart, but it gets the job done! :)

iamfaithful 06-22-2011 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DelhiBelli (Post 13412214)
I would like to but heavy cream without all the additives isn't available here. I've luckily found half and half and that makes a sinful yogurt/kefir.

When I want to splurge on the fat content :rofl: I will try that! Maybe I will have to drive to town & get some to kefir it tonight! :confused:

Got a gallon of FF yogurt going right now-yummm.

nowpresence 06-30-2011 02:26 PM

switching from water to milk kefir
 
I have water kefir... I think I left it too long and it got vinegary and yeasty tasting. I put it in the frig for a couple of weeks hoping that might help.
Does anyone know how to "refresh" your kefir if it has gotten vinegary and yeasty?
Also, can I switch the grains to almond milk? Would that be okay?
Thank you!
Joli

iamfaithful 06-30-2011 05:59 PM

To refresk WK grains try draining themcompletely & put them in some sugar water with a pinch of pure sea salt, baking soda maybe a piece of an egg shell (membrane removed) let sit in refer a week then repeat - then try making a quart with just sugar water a pinch of baking soda & a pinch of salt. Hope this helps!

iamfaithful 06-30-2011 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nowpresence (Post 14785309)
I have water kefir... I think I left it too long and it got vinegary and yeasty tasting. I put it in the frig for a couple of weeks hoping that might help.
Does anyone know how to "refresh" your kefir if it has gotten vinegary and yeasty?
Also, can I switch the grains to almond milk? Would that be okay?
Thank you!
Joli

forgot to answer this part...
WK & MK are totally different... They can not be switched... However I have been told you can make MK from WK by adding 1/4 cup +: (not grains) to milk and let set 24 hours + or -. Have tried this 1 time & it was OK... Try some with your other milk when you get your WK grains going again.

ps did you get your WK to fizz? Mine aren't old enough yet I am told... :)

nowpresence 06-30-2011 06:21 PM

Kefir
 
My kefir didn't fizz. I had it about four months... but I would use ginger and sometimes some of the ginger would end up in the kefir... not just ginger juice...and I thought you could keep it 48 hours...however, I ended up not using it for about 72 hours. Anyway, I'll give your advice a try. I didn't realize that the fizz works for more mature grains... I never knew why it didn't work! Thank you :-D

iamfaithful 06-30-2011 06:27 PM

@ nowpresence- that is what CFH told me. PS never put fruit or flavorings in with your grains it makes them sick. Let me know how they come out. Have been told they ar tough little fellers ...

nowpresence 06-30-2011 06:38 PM

Not even drips of ginger juice? Awww. ok. Do you put in 2 tbps of raw sugar?

iamfaithful 06-30-2011 07:36 PM

1/4 cup sugar per quart with at least 2TB of WK grains. Cover & let ist up to 36 hours.. Longer less sweet... Then you can do a 2nd ferment with juice or flavors for a day or 2 but first you take out grains & put in sugar water in fridge or make another batch. Hope this answers your ???? :)

nowpresence 06-30-2011 08:04 PM

Thank you!
 
Awesome :-D :clap:
Joli

Heheher 06-11-2014 04:52 PM

Can I make kefir with just heavy cream
And my grains?

sherlocklabs 07-04-2014 06:09 AM

I have been making my own kefir for a few weeks now....first in raw milk (prior to restarting my LC woe AGAIN)....than I used organic coconut milk....and this week, I have used heavy cream. The heavy cream kefir is thick...so I will use it in place of sour cream or yogurt in my smoothies and recipes. A great way to get those probiotics into you! :)

Janknitz 07-05-2014 11:17 AM

I make MK for my husband, (I don't tolerate dairy well), kombucha for me and will soon be trying WK. I also do pickles and sauerkraut. Just trying to keep up with my husband who makes his living in fermenting grapes (he's a wine maker).

I take advantage of his lab and after my kombucha has gone through a lengthy secondary fermentation, all but 0.05% of the sugar is GONE. he tests for glucose and fructose.

DlaneyLynn 07-08-2014 12:35 PM

My naturopath has me making kefir out of coconut milk/cream and it is delicious. After it cultures, I put it in the fridge and it thickens up just like yogurt. HFLC and dairy free. Yum.


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