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Old 05-17-2014, 10:28 PM   #91
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Don't be too dismayed with the low ketone readings in the morning. Most people used to testing blood sugar in the morning for fasting levels make the mistake of expecting ketones to be high.

As part of a normal diurnal waking response, the body secretes a small amount of insulin into the blood stream in the morning to drop blood sugar and cause the body to wake and be hungry. Since insulin is also the negative feedback for blood ketones, those levels would be expected to drop as well.
I actually take it as a sign that there is some accuracy to the meter, as it is my understanding that ketones are at their lowest in the morning.
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Yes, I measure my blood ketones in the morning, as that's when they're lowest. If I'm in "the zone" first thing in the morning, I know I'll be just fine the rest of the day.
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Old 05-17-2014, 11:00 PM   #93
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I'm getting closer to ordering the Ketonix Sport. If/when I do, I'll order another stack of blood ketone strips, so I can test them together.

I haven't quite talked myself into it yet, but I'm getting there.
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:59 PM   #94
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I realized the sport model does something mine does not. It flashes the results, so you have a better gauge of where you fall on the scale. Eg 2 flashes in green mean lower ketones than 10 flashes in green.

Now I'm thinking of doing their trade in program.
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:23 PM   #95
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Oh, really?!

That might have tipped the scales...
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:18 AM   #96
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Question Jan? After reading through this, just wondering, could this thing be plugged into a USB port and regular wall outlet? I don't have a computer to plug it into. But I was wondering if a phone charger type adapter would work?

I wondered if the sport was worth the extra money. Sounds like it could be. Thanks!
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:43 AM   #97
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Snow angel, you do not need to plug it in to a computer. I use a wall outlet USB adapter at home. And I even heard someone uses a little portable battery pack USB charger, too.
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Oh awesome! Thanks Jan! I think I just might order one!
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I'm anxious to hear all about your results. I actively use both the urine strips and the blood ketone meter. This morning my blood meter showed 1.7 but my urine strips showed small to moderate levels of ketones.
I heard Terry Wahl say in a podcast that the pee strips are fairly reliable at first but as your body is in ketosis over time, you are more efficient at using the ketones so less spills into the urine to register on the pee strips. I've heard her promoting her new book (Wahls Protocol) on several podcasts, I think the one with Dave Asprey (Bulletproof Executive) is the most informative.

I repurchased the Precision Xtra ketone strips today from Diabetes Depot (live in Cda) and the pharmacist was saying they're having difficulty even getting the meters. He didn't say if that was from increased demand, manufacturer discontinuing or what. Prices of the strips are definitely up from a year ago.
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Hi Sharvo - Universal, also up in Canada has the strips for 19.99 for 10 - I just ordered them about a week ago.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:27 AM   #101
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You'd think the makers of the precision meters would get a clue and start increasing availability.

Meanwhile, the inventor of Ketonix created it because he was using a keto diet to control seizures. It's an easy and inexpensive way to check for ketosis.
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I've been using my Ketonix for about a week now and finally got a red light. I almost always get yellow. I'm excited because yesterday I decided to cut my protein down to see if I could speed up some weight loss before a family event next week. Kinda felt like a job well done sign.
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I've been using my Ketonix for about a week now and finally got a red light. I almost always get yellow. I'm excited because yesterday I decided to cut my protein down to see if I could speed up some weight loss before a family event next week. Kinda felt like a job well done sign.
That is so awesome! congrats!
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Old 05-26-2014, 01:32 PM   #104
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I've been using my Ketonix for about a week now and finally got a red light. I almost always get yellow. I'm excited because yesterday I decided to cut my protein down to see if I could speed up some weight loss before a family event next week. Kinda felt like a job well done sign.
Yellow is great, it means you're there. Red is like the cherry on top.

I've been laying on the fat, and getting red earlier and earlier in the day. I'm also assuming that if it turns red very fast the ketones are probably pretty high--sometimes it only turns red at that very last bit of breath I can muster, sometimes it turns red after only about 10 seconds or so of blowing.

Last night I ate canned refried beans (along with a fried egg, some cheese and avocado). I'm really surprised at my body's response, as I've been avoiding legumes pretty much the past 3 years (except during fava bean season I let myself have some). I checked my blood sugar about an hour after dinner and it was 75, still 75 an hour later. I felt fine, not hypo. And I blew red fairly fast on the Ketonix. I think there's a lot of resistant starch in the beans, and my body did just fine with it. Interesting! One more thing I can add back in without disturbing ketosis. Very surprising to me.

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Hi everyone - I ordered the Ketonix sport and should have it by next week. My question is; how do you know a higher reading isn't just from eating a high fat meal, which would indicate the body is burning dietary fat, and not body fat?
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If you measure in the morning, this should be the lowest level and won't reflect the contents of your latest meal. The consensus seems to be that if you're in ketosis at your lowest point, you'll be good for the rest of the day, when there are fluctuations like the scenario you mentioned.
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What makes me skeptical about the measuring in the morning is tha fact that people on a "regular" diet can wake up in ketosis from night-fasting. Wouldn't it make more sense to check if you stay in ketosis after your meals?
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I don' think that carb eaters wuill get a reading on a meter in a fasting state because although they likely brun some body fat, they are still mostly using glycogen store.

Esquala, you can't tell what the source ok ketones are from a meter. The point of the meters are to establish a level of ketosis but not if the fuel is coming from dietary sources or stored,or a combination of both (which is most likely) but if no food is 'in play' (I.e. in a fasted state), it seems likely that ketones are coming from body fat at that point in time.
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What makes me skeptical about the measuring in the morning is tha fact that people on a "regular" diet can wake up in ketosis from night-fasting. Wouldn't it make more sense to check if you stay in ketosis after your meals?
Only if you're eating questionable meals.

It's recommended that you test first thing in the morning, precisely because that's the point at which someone who's following a ketogenic plan will measure lowest. If someone is not eating ketogenic, that will be their HIGHEST reading. We're not addressing them.

For us, as we move and eat and drink throughout the day, our level of ketosis will increase.
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So will our lowest be higher than their highest?
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It depends. There's no hard and fast rule as to how deep someone's ketosis is while they're fasting (sleeping). It depends on a lot of factors, including their last meal.

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Then the morning readings don't really tell me if I'm doing things right, since they could just be the highest readings from a non-ketogenic person.
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Really? That's your takeaway?
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I highly doubt a non-ketogenic eater's morning ketones are very high in the morning, if even measurable. Those not on a LC diet may have tiny levels of ketones waking up in the morning, but those will go away during the day - this is a non-issue.

The online authors and books recommend we check our ketones in the morning - makes sense. Those on a ketogenic diet will be at their low point in the morning and will increase during the day. If we're striving to be 0.5-3.0 all the time, > 0.5 in the morning (and clean eating all day) suggests that this is the lowest level and we're "in the zone".

Non-LC ketones will go down/disappear during the day. LC ketone levels will go up during the day. I don't think we're in a race to find our highest ketone levels, but to know that our lowest levels are within the range of nutritional ketosis.

I would rather know that at my lowest, I'm within range (0.5-3.0). Mid-day was interesting when I first bought my sticks (and I spent a few dollars experimenting), but I want to know my morning lowest levels to identify whether I need to change something in my diet.

If my morning readings were consistently 0.1, I would want to do something about it.
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Hello! I am new to this forum and excited to start reading! Now I have a question about the Ketonix tester...I recently purchased the Standard one, and when I first used it the light turned red. Is the light supposed to flash red like I saw in the video at the ketonix website? That one was showing the Sports edition, so maybe that is why that one flashed red?

Also, how do I get it to reset itself to test again? Or in my case tonight, let my husband test after I do?

And lastly, I thought I read on a blog that the mouthpiece can be taken off & washed? Anyone know how to do that?

Thanks in advance my friends!
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:41 AM   #116
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The sport model flashes but not the standard model.

To reset, unplug it and plug it back in.

I thought it would come apart for cleaning, too but can't figure that out either.
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Thank you!!!! I was about to go nuts trying to figure out the difference, lol!
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Ordered mine last week, hopefully it ships soon. I do have around 6 Blood tests left, we'll see where the ketonix stands.
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