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Old 09-11-2013, 01:50 AM   #1
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Did you have to completely change your thinking?

I was wondering if anyone had to completely change their thinking when they had to start eating to stay in NK. For example, I used to load up my plate with veggies at dinner thinking by doing so it would help me to feel full and stop me from overeating later. ? Now I realize I was probably shooting myself in the foot with that strategy. Because veggies have no fat in them, it was probably just doing the opposite, especially since the fibre slows down digestion and prevents the nutrients from hitting the bloodstream.....and unless you are using a lot of high fat sauces on your veggies, there are very few nutrients (calories) in veggies anyways. So you are starving yourself by say eating a salad with a low fat dressing on it (one of my past favourites)

Anyone else come to type of realization......that what you were doing before might been all wrong and you have to really shift your thinking, just curious.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:00 AM   #2
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Not really. I was already eating what I needed to in order to be in NK, and 2002 DANDR pretty much laid out the format I needed. The only thing I needed to change was to make sure I was getting enough protein every day once I was clear about my body composition. I used to have days where I wasn't eating enough overall, so when my jot so hungry days came, I focused on eating protein first, rather than just keeping my carbs low enough, and eating whatever. Does that make sense?

I didn't approach Atkins/NK with the idea that vegetables should or could be a free food, though.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:30 AM   #3
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Ketosis has become my # 1 objective where as weight loss is now #2.

Whatever weight I have lost and continue to lose needs to be sustainable - 100%. There is no point in trying to eat in a way that I am not fully on board with for all the right reasons. I believe I have found that with N.K..
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:16 PM   #4
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Even before I started NK in July 2012, I was already eating very low carb. When I started NK, I ate even less carbs. Like someone else said above, I never saw veggies as a free food, even when I started Atkins in March 2009. I had to stay really low carb then, too.

I have never seen success with carbs any higher than 25 grams or so.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:46 PM   #5
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Yes, I had to have a big huge paradigm shift in every way in which I thought of food. I had to completely retrain my whole thinking process, because I was a sweet-aholic and ate nothing but processed sweet sugary and carby food all the time. Once I became an adult I never ate veggies and everything bad for you I ate. I changed my whole thinking process and how I viewed food and now I prefer veggies and real food to anything else and don't even want sweets anymore. My body is not used to it anymore. But yeah I had to retrain my whole thought process and I think that's the important part, changing the inside in order to change the outside. I had to retrain myself on portion size and everything.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:49 AM   #6
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Before, I was already familiar with Atkins and LC, but after reading more and more about LCHF, I shifted my dietary focus from mainly protein to more fat and less protein. It has certainly taught me about hunger, knowing when enough is enough and it has taught me how great fat is.

Because I knew about LC as such, I didn't have to change my thinking really. Just the fat bit!
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Before, I was already familiar with Atkins and LC, but after reading more and more about LCHF, I shifted my dietary focus from mainly protein to more fat and less protein. It has certainly taught me about hunger, knowing when enough is enough and it has taught me how great fat is.

Because I knew about LC as such, I didn't have to change my thinking really. Just the fat bit!
EXACTLY my thoughts as well!
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:54 AM   #8
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I was wondering if anyone had to completely change their thinking when they had to start eating to stay in NK. For example, I used to load up my plate with veggies at dinner thinking by doing so it would help me to feel full and stop me from overeating later. ? Now I realize I was probably shooting myself in the foot with that strategy. Because veggies have no fat in them, it was probably just doing the opposite, especially since the fibre slows down digestion and prevents the nutrients from hitting the bloodstream.....and unless you are using a lot of high fat sauces on your veggies, there are very few nutrients (calories) in veggies anyways. So you are starving yourself by say eating a salad with a low fat dressing on it (one of my past favourites)

Anyone else come to type of realization......that what you were doing before might been all wrong and you have to really shift your thinking, just curious.

Definitely. I also thought that eating a lot of vegetable was good for me, not realizing that they might actually be raising my blood sugar levels and making me more hungry. They definitely do not fill a person up. I could eat them all day and feel hungry all day. Also I did not realize that adding fat to the diet would make me feel so good. I never cut my fat like a lot of people do when trying to lose weight, but adding more is so good. Also how good I feel by not eating grains is a good thing. My brain fog is gone, and my body does not hurt like it used to. I also gave up nightshade vegetables, and I feel so much better. Of course that means no salsa or hot sauce, but it is worth it.
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:57 AM   #9
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Moving from LC to NK , I really learned importance of protein! I dont think I was eating adequate protein all of the time while losing weight though certainly I ate fat. I had to change my thinking from "weight loss" to "health." They are not the same concept. There are many ways to lose weight. Weight loss CAN be a side effect of healthy eating and so can weight gain! The concept that the purpose of healthy eating is for weight loss was the hardest to overcome.

By eating enough protein, then fat and then good veggies, my body has changed. I look and feel stronger..my muscles are harder and my face more "full"

Unfortunately, I am not able to stay in a keto-adapted state while trying out a new medication, though I'm staying low carb. I just need to make sure I am not ketogenic as I need to have my blood monitored for PH levels to see how it affects me.

After adapting to this medication for a few months, I will be going back to NK while having my blood monitored by a physician.
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:02 AM   #10
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Moving from LC to NK , I really learned importance of protein! I dont think I was eating adequate protein all of the time while losing weight though certainly I ate fat. I had to change my thinking from "weight loss" to "health." They are not the same concept. There are many ways to lose weight. Weight loss CAN be a side effect of healthy eating and so can weight gain! The concept that the purpose of healthy eating is for weight loss was the hardest to overcome.

By eating enough protein, then fat and then good veggies, my body has changed. I look and feel stronger..my muscles are harder and my face more "full"

Unfortunately, I am not able to stay in a keto-adapted state while trying out a new medication, though I'm staying low carb. I just need to make sure I am not ketogenic as I need to have my blood monitored for PH levels to see how it affects me.

After adapting to this medication for a few months, I will be going back to NK while having my blood monitored by a physician.
Wow, you brought up some interesting points here. It is more about healthy eating, not about weight loss. I didn't really make that connection either until I started trying to maintain my weight. To avoid overeating you have to be eating healthy, and in that process my health is also improving. My immune system is slowly being restored for example and I am very happy about that.
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:03 AM   #11
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And I should mention I am not doing it through eating more whole grains and veggies! LOL
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