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Old 08-16-2013, 02:55 AM   #151
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I second that motion. I know there's a push to be as thin as you possibly can be, but your body may have other ideas. At a certain point, if you're doing everything right and still not losing, you may need to accept that you're at your body's ideal weight, even if it doesn't match the number in your head.

More than anything else, measure your success by your health. If you can go out and dance, or garden, or play golf, or whatever you love to do that makes you feel alive, you're in good shape. Your weight is just numbers on a scale.
Although I agree with that 100%, it still does not please me!
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:16 AM   #152
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Sounds to me like you're in a good place to maintain. Phinney & Volek's recommendation is to increase carbs to a level that does not cause weight gain, then add fat to make up the rest of calories needed for maintenance. It will probably take a bit of experimenting to find your numbers.
Thats just the problem, it takes about 2 carbs and the scale goes up!!
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:20 AM   #153
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I was going to post that I'm still showing ketones, my weight has dropped a tad and I really have nothing exciting to talk about. It's always nice to see a drop, it's the prize we crave.

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Thats just the problem, it takes about 2 carbs and the scale goes up!!
Kathy, I just wrote about this here, so you might want to take a peek.
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Having myself a single cup of BPC, my miniBPC. Problem is, I'm not hungry, but when I did it the other day before dancing I was flying. Then the next time I went dancing and didn't have it, I was a slug all night. I don't like being a dancing slug...it's not a pretty picture.

Been doing some junking out today and I'm tired of walking up and down the stairs, but it's good exercise.

Looking forward to the weekend, work on house painting, hauling off this junk, and just taking a break.
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Although I agree with that 100%, it still does not please me!
Merrykate, what I REALLY love to do is EAT! Kathy
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Oh, me too! That's how I got my svelte figure....and why I fell off the wagon two months ago after two years of low-carbing. I had a huge stir fry for dinner tonight, and I was stuffed – if I ate anything more, my stomach might have burst – but my brain wanted dessert. I wish the psychological aspect of weight loss was as easy to figure out as the physical.
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Oh, me too! That's how I got my svelte figure....and why I fell off the wagon two months ago after two years of low-carbing. I had a huge stir fry for dinner tonight, and I was stuffed – if I ate anything more, my stomach might have burst – but my brain wanted dessert. I wish the psychological aspect of weight loss was as easy to figure out as the physical.
Well we all fall off the wagon, its the getting back on that is important and you did! Kathy
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We had a quiet weekend in here, let's chat it up a bit for the week.

Happy Monday everyone. I'm still working on my AM coffee...though it is decaf (with cream.)

Nothing special this week, today is my short work day and I will work on the house painting when I get home. Tomorrow I get the results of my foot MRI (kind of nervous about that.)

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How did the MRI go Annette?

Quiet in here, all of a sudden....is anyone using this thread anymore?
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How did the MRI go Annette?

Quiet in here, all of a sudden....is anyone using this thread anymore?
Had my appointment yesterday. Well the good news is that the MRI shows I do not have that strange/rare/obscure bone issue the ultrasound suggested. But it also showed NOTHING wrong. Even the podiatrist was surprised and shocked as he can push and squeeze and make zingers and such. So he said I probably have neuromas that are just very small (might even have been missed on the "slices of the MRI") and I have bone structure that's causing pain. At this point since the cortisone is working, to just come back when it's wearing off and we'll deal with it then.

Like I said, good news....but seriously?

I was violently ill last night. I was reading a thread about the Shangri La Diet and picked up the book yesterday at the library. Then in the afternoon I had 2 T of MCT oil. Let's just say that right towards bedtime it kicked in.

I am 2 lbs lighter today though....but the toilet and I know the real reason.

So I'm putting the book in the return pile. I have enough appetite suppression on ketosis that I don't need to worry about it. Why do I do these things?

Blood ketones are at 1.7 this morning. Of course, I am wondering how I can keep that 2 lbs off.
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I was violently ill last night. I was reading a thread about the Shangri La Diet and picked up the book yesterday at the library. Then in the afternoon I had 2 T of MCT oil. Let's just say that right towards bedtime it kicked in.
If you have never had MCT oil before, you can't start out having that much at once, because you saw what happened. I am surprised that the book did not tell you that you have to start small and build up or your body will not be able to take it.

The general recommendation is to start out with 1 teaspoon, do that for several days, then increase by 1 teaspoon every several days while your body adjusts. When you hit your own "saturation point", your body will let you know. You work up to as much as it takes to cause diarrhea, then back off a little bit, and that's your tolerance level.

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I've been using MCT oil regularly now, so I thought it would be okay....NOT...at least not on an empty stomach.

I'm going to try again this afternoon (silly silly me) but with the light olive oil, and only 2 teaspoons.

My favorite way to use MCT oil has been to mix it half/half with olive oil and use that as my oil base for salad dressing. I probably only get a teaspoon or 2 at the most then. The stuff is pretty expensive, but I'm thinking using it regularly like that (in salad dressing,) using CO occasionally for cooking, using butter and olive oil for most cooking, and the fats in meats and such, well, that seems to have me covered nicely all around, without no overly high concentration on one particular oil.

This whole oil and brain health thing is starting to freak me out, and if all it takes to keep my noggin intact is to eat the right oils, I definitely plan on doing just that.
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Hi everyone!!
I am finally back from the European vacation and am trying to get things settled out!!

My weight went up right before I went and I did not eat NK at all while gone, would have been very difficult for me I think... so weight went back up a bit more.

I am trying to figure out whats the best course of action for me to get back into things. I like the high fat/NK way, but I am not sure if I am eating too many calories overall with it and its so limiting in my food and lack of veges, so I thought I would come read the new August thread and look for inspiration!!

I just back into exercise this morning (lord could I tell I have not done it over 2 weeks)... and did Chalene Extreme Weights and then Turbo Fire 30... have been eating pretty healthy today, but higher in protein and had salad for lunch and a peach! (shhhhh)...

How is everyone doing since I have been out of the loop?? Kathy, Kathy? Annette?? girls?
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I am finally back from the European vacation and am trying to get things settled out!!

My weight went up right before I went and I did not eat NK at all while gone, would have been very difficult for me I think... so weight went back up a bit more.

I am trying to figure out whats the best course of action for me to get back into things. I like the high fat/NK way, but I am not sure if I am eating too many calories overall with it and its so limiting in my food and lack of veges, so I thought I would come read the new August thread and look for inspiration!!

I just back into exercise this morning (lord could I tell I have not done it over 2 weeks)... and did Chalene Extreme Weights and then Turbo Fire 30... have been eating pretty healthy today, but higher in protein and had salad for lunch and a peach! (shhhhh)...

How is everyone doing since I have been out of the loop?? Kathy, Kathy? Annette?? girls?
Hope your vacation was wonderful. My daughter just started Chalene Extreme and is excited about it, she just finished Insanity. I'm still not getting enough exercise.

Just get back on low carb, you know it will take a few days to get the junk out of your system, that's the hard part, keep working on it. Then start working on the other little things.

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Hope your vacation was wonderful. My daughter just started Chalene Extreme and is excited about it, she just finished Insanity. I'm still not getting enough exercise.

Just get back on low carb, you know it will take a few days to get the junk out of your system, that's the hard part, keep working on it. Then start working on the other little things.

Glad to see you back.
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My 2 lbs of "illness" stayed off today, no clue how that happened, but I"ll take it. And now to be careful again today to keep it gone.

Today's my day off from work. For some reason it's easier for me to put off eating when I'm home. I don't have to use my brain as much, so I don't feel the need to fuel. I'll put off food until I actually need it. I have an appointment at 1PM, so I'm hoping to put off breakfast till 11. Doing my coffee/cream right now.

I did have my 1 T oil yesterday afternoon, Shangri-La style, and will try it again today, maybe add 1 t to that.

My son asked for spaghetti for dinner, now I have to figure out how I plan on eating it. Obviously not with pasta, maybe zucchini. I don't even want to use those miracle noodles, too much like real spaghetti noodles.
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Hi, I'm new here, been wandering around the site checking out various versions of LCD. I started this 8/13 and after 8 days I'm down 5 pounds.

I've done a lot of the suggested reading, and I have my online tracker set for 20% protein, 75% fat, 5% carbs. This feels right to me, so I'm thinking NK may be where I belong in all this.

I love that my skin is less dry, and my arthritis has lessened. To me the improved way I feel alone would keep me eating this way, and weight loss is a lovely side effect!

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Hi everyone. I thought i would post my hello here too.

I have been doing a lot of reading on here and hope this works for me. I have to do something to kick my body into losing instead of gaining. I know i have realized that, as much as i have tried and wanted to, i just cant do many carbs. Even lots of good carbs from veggies and fruit.
I am already feeling better eating higher fat.
One thing i did forget to mention in my post is that i just recently had my gall bladder removed. It was about 6 weeks ago. So we will see how i do with all the fat. The last couple of days i have had bathroom issues like being in there a lot!! I'm goign to still keep it up and hope that my body adjusts to the extra fat. I have been depriving it of fat for so long now that it is a hit to my system especially not having a gall bladder!!

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Hi everyone. I thought i would post my hello here too.

I have been doing a lot of reading on here and hope this works for me. I have to do something to kick my body into losing instead of gaining. I know i have realized that, as much as i have tried and wanted to, i just cant do many carbs. Even lots of good carbs from veggies and fruit.
I am already feeling better eating higher fat.
One thing i did forget to mention in my post is that i just recently had my gall bladder removed. It was about 6 weeks ago. So we will see how i do with all the fat. The last couple of days i have had bathroom issues like being in there a lot!! I'm goign to still keep it up and hope that my body adjusts to the extra fat. I have been depriving it of fat for so long now that it is a hit to my system especially not having a gall bladder!!

Im looking to getting to know everyone!!
Welcome! There are a few on this board who also have had their gallbladder removed. I am sure that they will help you with all that you need. The extra fat in the diet definitely makes me feel so much better. Vegetables are what put me in the bathroom a lot.
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I had my gallbladder removed a couple of months ago. The Dr. told me that I need to eat a very low fat diet for at least the next few months, and possibly forever. I just continued with my regular low carb, high fat diet, and had no problems at all. I'm sure everybody is different, but for me there were no issues at all.
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Thank you mthergoos!! I was also told the same thing.
I have basically been eating that way for the last year or so anyway and i have done nothing but gain weight instead of losing. Eating lots of veggies and fruits, very little fat and very little meat. Eating edamame, hummus things like that. Way too many carbs for me im finding out.
I'm really enjoying the last week of being able to eat a hamburger with bacon on it and ranch dressing on my salad and eating cheese again!!! i have been depriving myself of cheese, full fat anything, to keep the calories down.
Thank goodness for me reading "why we get fat". Calories in Calories out does not always work. I can eat way more calories when im eating lowcarb and still lose weight.
So far the only issue with the fat is that i have been in the bathroom more but im hoping that will level off after my body gets used to it.
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My co-worker can eat some fats with her gall bladder out better than others. I think there will also be some self-testing involved. She eats lots of cheese. Are natural, animal based fats easier to digest than seed oils perhaps?
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I've been cooking this afternoon. My son wants spaghetti for dinner so I made that up. I took out a small portion of the cooked ground beef and onions, and drained the fat (me me to eat....OMG!) The sauce is the lowest carb one I could find.

I'll cook my meat/fat up with some veggies and a tiny bit of the sauce too. It should be more than fatty enough.

I made up my first batch of chia seed pudding with Breeze Almond Milk. Dang, that stuff tastes good, and it was the unsweetened version. I found the lemon flavored Sweetleaf Stevia drops in the store finally, and also a Vanilla Creme flavor which I used in the chia seed pudding. I'm excited to try it. We'll see if it's fully set by tonight, or I'll have it tomorrow.

And.....

I baked some low carb cashew-peanut butter cookies from Buttoni's blog and they are very very yummy. I've already eaten three. See, already too addictive...ugh. I think the sweetener needs to be dropped in half and I will definitely make them again. She has a lot of nice recipes on her site.
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Sounds awesome!

I love chia seed pudding! I also make it with almond milk and use unsweetened cocoa powder and a packet of stevia. It usually takes all night to really set well.

the spaghetti sounds good. I have a spiral slicer and i will make zucchini or cucumber noodles and have the sauce over that. YUMMY!!!

yesterday and today i had bullet proof iced coffee for breakfast and it is so good!!
I make the coffee and while its hot i add 1T of pure indian foods ghee/coconut blend and then 1/2 T extra coconut oil. then blend with hand blender. then add that to my blendtec and add some ice, 1T gelatin, 1/2T chia seeds, 1 scoop myofusion protein and some almond milk. It was very yummy!!!
I'm still getting used to eating more fatty foods. For lunch i had chicken breast with roasted broccoli and home cole slaw so i added 1/4 avocado and 1T light olive oil to up the fat some.
I had an afternoon snack of 1 applegate farms grass fed beef hot dog and 1 string cheese.
What do you guys think?

Dinner will be a couple big handfuls of romaine, some leftover steak, its about 4 oz, sunflower seeds on the salad and probably ranch dressing and some cheddar cheese.

that will put me at about 1538 calories
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I made up my first batch of chia seed pudding with Breeze Almond Milk. Dang, that stuff tastes good, and it was the unsweetened version. I found the lemon flavored Sweetleaf Stevia drops in the store finally, and also a Vanilla Creme flavor which I used in the chia seed pudding. I'm excited to try it. We'll see if it's fully set by tonight, or I'll have it tomorrow.

And.....

I baked some low carb cashew-peanut butter cookies from Buttoni's blog and they are very very yummy. I've already eaten three. See, already too addictive...ugh. I think the sweetener needs to be dropped in half and I will definitely make them again. She has a lot of nice recipes on her site.
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Well I am not new to Ketosis dieting and low carb eating. I have done a bit of reading and I keep up on here. However, I believe this is my first post on this website; and it is a question. So this is a question that came to me today as I was about to eat 2 oreo cookies. Yes I know a date with the enemy But here is the question. I had not eaten any carbs throughout the day and I have been well into ketosis for about a week. The decision to eat the cookies was not an impulse decision and I did my research to see how many carbs per cookie. The math adds up to 8.33 carbs per cookie, and I was pretty sure it was all suggar . SO I figured with just 2 I could get a treat and stay under the radar and stay on ketosis. But then alarms went off in the back of my head which is what lead me make this post. Ok so my question is if I can normaly eat 30 grams of carbs per day and still stay in ketosis and all I have eaten today is about 20 grams of carbs, does it make a diference if those 20 grams came from a high glycemic index food in a short amount of time? I do not have keto stiks so I cant test my self tomorrow, and I'm pretty sure I will know the answer tomorrow by how hungry I feel throughout the day, but I though I would ask some of my low carb buddies to see if they had the answer to my question
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But then alarms went off in the back of my head which is what lead me make this post. Ok so my question is if I can normaly eat 30 grams of carbs per day and still stay in ketosis and all I have eaten today is about 20 grams of carbs, does it make a diference if those 20 grams came from a high glycemic index food in a short amount of time?
I'm sure others will answer this as well, but my understanding from the Atkins book I read (the newest one) is that yes, it will probably make a difference, and not a happy one. My personal experience is also that I am more likely to feel the impact of eating something sweet, even if my net carbs for the day are below my target.

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WOE: 20 hours no food, 4 hour meat + veggies.
Start Date: 04/2012
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Originally Posted by martha View Post
I'm sure others will answer this as well, but my understanding from the Atkins book I read (the newest one) is that yes, it will probably make a difference, and not a happy one. My personal experience is also that I am more likely to feel the impact of eating something sweet, even if my net carbs for the day are below my target.
Thanks for the reply, I was affraid of this. Well Ill just push the hunger tomorrow
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