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Old 01-15-2014, 12:24 PM   #301
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LOL nope it wasn't you....sorry clackley
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:26 PM   #302
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I find it had to call it a particular plan because I tend to restrict calories as well as trying to keep the fat highest, mod protein and 0 carbs. So I am not sure what it would be called
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:28 PM   #303
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My issue has never been eating too many calories. It has been what I am eating and then only eating once a day. My metabolism is really messed up
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:47 PM   #304
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I think most of us have a messed up metabolism.

The first question you ask about omega 6s is that they should be in the same amounts as omega 3s and the thought is that if they are in excess, they are inflammatory.

It seems sort of like a n.k. woe but with the smallish amount of fat, not really. The protein might be okay but you do know that turkey bacon has carbs, right? Not to suggest that you are eating too many carbs but just being specific.

Eating once a day is a plan that many people do and it is part of intermittent fasting. It works in a number of ways and for many people can be helpful.

If you need further info or just want to discuss things, the n.k. forum might be a better place as more people are likely to read your thread. Just start a new one!
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Old 01-15-2014, 01:15 PM   #305
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The jennie-o turkey bacon package says 0 carbs? Oh my have I been eating carbs and not knowing it? That would be awful?
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Old 01-15-2014, 03:02 PM   #306
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I see that is does not have any listed carbs or ingredients that might suggest carbs. Sorry about that. I was under the impression that that product did have fillers that would be carbs.
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That's ok....
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Hi Charitysmom!


My menu today:

B and L: BPC
D: rotisserie chicken, avocado, purslane, homemade cultured mayo

Have a good day everyone!
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Good morning-

Saw 5lbs of bloat come off and I am thrilled!

B- 40 0z Tea with Heavy Cream, 2C homemade chicken bone broth
L- deli ham, cream cheese, 2 HB eggs, mayo, cabbage
S- 2 cheddar string cheese
D- ?

I am still working this all out, but learned that 1650 calories are too many for me

So changing my target to between 1400 and 1200 and 124 grams of fat. Need to figure out protein and carb grams still though.

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Old 01-16-2014, 07:26 AM   #310
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Labmini, I feel compelled to warn against calorie counting. It can take you down roads that are counter productive and make life more complicated than it needs to be.

Work out your protein needs, your carbs that allow you to lose and the rest should be fat. If after time, you are not losing, then you need to scale back the fat. All of this can be 'framed' in a calorie model but really, we know that what the effects of the macro nutrients are on the body are what tells us more.

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Old 01-16-2014, 10:40 AM   #311
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Thanks so much for the input. My question would be then how do I figure out how many grams of fat I need? When reading the Keto book I have and some online research all are based on number of calories to figure out the percentages for each macro, then grams for each

Here is what I have figured for myself
1400 calories
124 g fat
18 g carbs
53 g protein

I am 5'3 started this at 180lbs and have a desk job

do these macro gram counts look to be on target, or is there another way I can figure them without using calories as a starting point?

All of you help is greatly appreciated and has been invaluable!

Thanks so so much
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Labmini, I agree with Cathy.

Keeping the carbs low is simple, if not always easy.
Eating high quality protein, and experimenting until one finds one's favorite portion sizes and foods seems a common thing with many of us.

To me, eating enough fat to feel happy and cheerful in the beginning makes low-carbing easy and fun! After eating this way for a while, the experimenting comes naturally and the fat amounts each one needs/wishes seems more obvious.

I take 2 tablespoons of CLO per day, and usually eat approx. 2 tablespoons of butter. The other fat I get is in the egg yolks, meat and broths, and a bit in the hh I use.

Dr. Atkins recommended eating protein and fat as desired when one starts a low carb diet, and tapering those to one's own needs, after one has adjusted to eating low carb. This makes good sense to me, too.

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Old 01-16-2014, 02:05 PM   #313
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Thanks so much Auntie Em- I am struggling with eating too much protein according to the macros I thought I should follow and not eating breakfast is a little tough for me right now. I am going to keep on trucking to se if I can find what works and just keep experimenting.

thanks again all
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Morning all!

Labmini, maybe having a bulletproof coffee for breakfast will help you with your macros? I find it excellent in keeping hunger at bay as well!


My menu today:

B and L: BPC and water and 2 cups of green tea
D: 4 medium eggs, 2 oz crispy bacon rashers, 3 oz total mixed cheese (grated parmesan, grated mature gouda, finely chopped feta), 1/2 small avocado, 1 TB Kerrygold butter, 1/2 cup cultured saurkraut, cup of homemade bone broth. (I have the bone broth with 1/2 TB of Kerrygold about 1 hour before my actual main meal)

Today is a lower protein day. I had plenty with the rotisserie chicken yesterday! (at the maximum of my protein grams)

Labmini, just for you my numbers for today are:

12 grams Carbs
124 grams Fat
55 grams Protein
1401 Calories

I like eating a lot,volume-wise, but by going by my hunger (which is hard, because I usually don't really know what my body is telling me, it's an uphill struggle!) I try to only eat when I need it. It works out to be once or twice a day. Yesterday I had quite a bit to eat, and I woke up not feeling hungry at all. I try to stick within my maximum macros, which means I eat anywhere from around 1400 minimum to around 2300 maximum calories. I don't really look at calories as such, I try to keep my macros correct. The calories are what they are. Since doing it this way, I feel much better and I've figured out which macros work for me. The last two weeks have been very interesting, and I've realised that I can actually make this work for me!
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I am adding shirataki noodles to the mix: Will boil 2 eggs to have on the side and with the other 2 and the grated parmesan and the bacon I'll make a type of carbonara pasta....
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Old 01-17-2014, 06:11 AM   #316
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Thanks so much Mimosa! I really appreciate everyone's help!

I think for now I am going to focus on getting in my 124 grams of fat and see where I land protein and cab wise (knowing I am trying to keep protein moderate and carbs very low) I have been doing more research and I think I have a meal template that might work.

I am having tea with heavy cream and this weekend buying a little foamer thing so I can have BPT at work! - I do think it will help. I have been waking up hungry in the morning so I think that is lack of fat at dinner.

I am going to try the below template next week and see how I feel. I also feel like my meals have been snack plates and its time for real meals.

B- BPT (egg salad if needed) 1/4 c sauerkraut
L- either leftover protein and fat or lunchmeat with cream cheese
D- protein, green veggie and compound butter or sauce to get the fat up.

And since this is a whatcha eating today thread here we go:

B- Tea with heavy cream (eggs with mayo if needed)
L- pepperoni and roast with cream cheese, cabbage, avocado if needed
D- not sure, probably more roast with some cheese

thanks again all for all of your help you have saved me from throwing in the towel and given me the courage to keep on trucking and tweaking.
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Old 01-17-2014, 07:29 PM   #317
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I fasted on black coffee until 5pm.
Then had a nice dinner with red wine, cheese plate, porterhouse veal steak with rosemary butter, roasted Brussel sprouts, wilted Swiss chard.
Dessert is a little Brie, piece of 90% Lindt, and a handful of walnuts.
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:02 PM   #318
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Hi there- checking in

Today was tea with Splenda and cream
Lunch - chicken things, chicken leg, some chorizo, asparagus and a little salad
More tea
Not sure if I will need dinner

Have a great day all
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Hiked for 11 miles today.
Had BPC, Mac nuts, 90% Lindt, cheddar cheese

Late lunch of Cuban pork.
Dinner was bacon, Swiss chard, some avocado, and homemade ice cream sweetened with Stevia
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Hi all-

Menu for today is

B- we went out and I was a little disappointed with my meal
2 poached eggs, hollandaise, warm tomato slices (GROSS!) and some bland chicken sausage patties that were probably very high in protein
L- BPTea with my new frother! Made with 1/4c HWC and 1TB butter, 2 splenda
D- L/O Chicken, sausage and asparagus.

Ratios probably won't be great today, but I will keep trucking. Back to work tomorrow and it helps me stay on track.
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BPC, coffee with 2 T hwc
Ounce of mammoth cheddar
romaine salad with ginger, lemon, caper, evoo dressing and smoked salmon.
Maybe Mac nuts and 90% Lindt if feeling it.
Braised oxtail with the BF for dinner
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:01 AM   #322
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Good morning-

Trying out my new outline and so far so good

I woke up hungry, but last night made BP ice cubes and made my BPT and it worked perfectly! Filled me up until just now so
B- BPT on train, tea with HWC when I got to work
S- 2 Finn Crisps with butter and supplements
L- 1 chorizo sausage, 1/4 avocado, 2oz deli turkey
S- on train (I tend to get nauseous on the way home so need a salty snack) 10 olives
D- L/O Chicken thighs and legs with salad

Need to make some kind of salad dressing tonight as well.

Hoping to go to yoga, but with all of the snow we are getting I have a feeling it is going to be canceled. I will have to do a tape tonight instead.

Keep on trucking
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I ended up making a egg and duck meat fried "rice" (grated cauliflower) for dinner last night instead of oxtail.


Today,
-BPC (only half because I spilled going in to the office)
-smoked salmon on romaine w/ dressing (evoo, capers, ginger/lime concentrate, stevia, ACV, sriracha, S&P)
-mac nuts, 1 sq of 90% lindt, one Quest PB cup
-dinner tonight will be braised oxtail
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Your menu sounds delicious Green!
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Your menu sounds delicious Green!
thanks labmini!

the oxtail is what i'm super pumped about...
My BF is a fantastic cook. He's teaching me so much.
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Hi All!

My menu today:

B and L: BPC
D: leftovers from yesterday: cauliflower ground beef casserole
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