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Old 07-28-2013, 05:25 AM   #331
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Today had 1 yolk +3 whites. Have been hungry all morning. and I am only 3 hours past breakfast.
Thanks for testing it out, Cici!

I had been just doing the yolks after trying to raise fat and lower protein, and it worked so I didn't mess it.

Another favorite lunch of mine is hard boiled yolks, mayo, mustard and a little pickle juice. Or just eating the filling of a deviled egg, Yum!
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It was a good test.

Today 1 yolk, 3 whites plus veggies and cheese. Much more satisfhing. Will probably be fine until lunch.

I do find veggies give me the bulk and crunch I need. Do you all include them?
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I don't, yet. I'm doing between 0 and 5 carbs for now. I will add veggies back, once I get a handle on my body, and fully repair my metabolism. I use supplements for the proper nutrients & vitamins.

I stick with yolks and butter for breakfast and bulletproof coffee, and until I'm either bored, or it's not working, that will be my go to breakfast. I do much better when I keep my options limited. Aside from the occasional lobster and fresh drawn butter, YUM!
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Back to being strict. I'm seeing creep in my numbers, both scale and fasting. I'm holding off on ketones for a few days at least.
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Has anyone else found that their resting heart rate went up during induction/ketosis? Mine is into "over-training" territory and so I'm going to take a rest day, but my BP is up a little too and I wonder if this happens to people during the period of adaptation...?

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Back to being strict. I'm seeing creep in my numbers, both scale and fasting. I'm holding off on ketones for a few days at least.
Annette, know the feeling. Not sure but pretty sure still not back in NK, 10 days to trip.. Just trying to minimize damage and still keep those carbs at bay. I think I am close.... but I had a few bites of froyo with hot fudge last night so still not going to try testing today. TOM is in town and always crave horrible chocolate!

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It was a good test.

Today 1 yolk, 3 whites plus veggies and cheese. Much more satisfhing. Will probably be fine until lunch.

I do find veggies give me the bulk and crunch I need. Do you all include them?
I usually do not eat many veggies, but when I do, I like to eat them early in the day. That minimizes the problems with the carbs in them. I really like veggies, but when I eat too many, they keep me from losing.
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Annette, know the feeling. Not sure but pretty sure still not back in NK, 10 days to trip.. Just trying to minimize damage and still keep those carbs at bay. I think I am close.... but I had a few bites of froyo with hot fudge last night so still not going to try testing today. TOM is in town and always crave horrible chocolate!

Kathy should be back today I think too! Missing our little chatty group!!
I is here! :-) Somehow I keep getting dropped and then realize I haven't seen anything in a couple days!
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Has anyone else found that their resting heart rate went up during induction/ketosis? Mine is into "over-training" territory and so I'm going to take a rest day, but my BP is up a little too and I wonder if this happens to people during the period of adaptation...?

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Martha, are you on any meds? I did have some issues with heart rate about 6 months in....not sure how long it had been going on? I believe my b.p. meds were inappropriate (over medicated) and weaned off all of them. I have had very good b.p and heart rate since then.
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I'm on BP meds and that's all. Dosage was cut in half months ago and numbers have been very good but a little higher lately. I am hoping/planning to go another five days with <20 net carbs and then start adding them back, but I feel pretty punk, to tell you the truth. Dopey and tired. And I tried tofu in a smoothie today and it was so awful I couldn't choke down the last bit. Hate to waste a meal on a failed experiment! I'll never do that again!

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I'm on BP meds and that's all. Dosage was cut in half months ago and numbers have been very good but a little higher lately. I am hoping/planning to go another five days with <20 net carbs and then start adding them back, but I feel pretty punk, to tell you the truth. Dopey and tired. And I tried tofu in a smoothie today and it was so awful I couldn't choke down the last bit. Hate to waste a meal on a failed experiment! I'll never do that again!

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Soy is bad for you. I would eliminate it from my diet if I were you. It is really poison to the body.
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Soy is bad for you. I would eliminate it from my diet if I were you. It is really poison to the body.
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You know, I have heard that, and I've tried to track down what the problem is supposed to be but haven't found a good explanation. It's a food that has been around for a long time and is a part of a lot of culinary traditions, so I tend to give it the benefit of the doubt. What have you read?
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You know, I have heard that, and I've tried to track down what the problem is supposed to be but haven't found a good explanation. It's a food that has been around for a long time and is a part of a lot of culinary traditions, so I tend to give it the benefit of the doubt. What have you read?

The Chinese mostly used it to replenish their soil. They only ate it if it was fermented and only in small amounts. If you feed it to animals in too large amount, they will get sick and die. In Illinois (I think that was the state) they took the meat out of the prisons and replaced it with soy to save money. There were a lot of prisoners who got very sick and many of them had to have parts of their intestines removed. That was just recently. Soy prevents the body from absorbing protein. It also adds estrogen to the body which is unhealthy. For men, it can make them lose their labedo. There are a lot of other negative things about soy. Just look it up on the internet.
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I think you can overstate the dangers of soy. I eat very little by choice, but I know lots and lots of people who eat soy everyday and are very healthy. I can't see that soy is killing Japanese people who eat lots of soy. Some but not all of it is fermented.
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Good morning everyone.

I was a bit disappointed this morning to see the scale up yet again. It is what is is. But I just now put my slacks on for work and they are so darn loose.

I must be in for a whoosh soon.

It might just show up tomorrow as today I am so lucky....I go for a root canal, and probably won't be eating much in the way of dinner. This is my first, but I also work in a dentist office and everyone else seems to survive this ordeal.
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Good luck with the dentistry.

I've got some deviled eggs ready for thfe day.. Waiting for the rain to stop to take a walk.

Regarding the soy and all the other food we are supposed to fear, IMHO, moderation is the key. No one food is supposdd to be eaten at every meal. Overeating anything is toxic.
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Good morning everyone.

I was a bit disappointed this morning to see the scale up yet again. It is what is is. But I just now put my slacks on for work and they are so darn loose.

I must be in for a whoosh soon.

It might just show up tomorrow as today I am so lucky....I go for a root canal, and probably won't be eating much in the way of dinner. This is my first, but I also work in a dentist office and everyone else seems to survive this ordeal.
Good luck with the root canal and crossing fingers for your swoosh tomorrow!
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I think you can overstate the dangers of soy. I eat very little by choice, but I know lots and lots of people who eat soy everyday and are very healthy. I can't see that soy is killing Japanese people who eat lots of soy. Some but not all of it is fermented.
Ok. You can of course eat what you want. Don't say that you weren't warned.
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Good morning everyone.

I was a bit disappointed this morning to see the scale up yet again. It is what is is. But I just now put my slacks on for work and they are so darn loose.

I must be in for a whoosh soon.

It might just show up tomorrow as today I am so lucky....I go for a root canal, and probably won't be eating much in the way of dinner. This is my first, but I also work in a dentist office and everyone else seems to survive this ordeal.
Annette, stay encouraged. The whoosh fairy is on her way. Your loose slacks are definitely a good sign.

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I'm on BP meds and that's all. Dosage was cut in half months ago and numbers have been very good but a little higher lately. I am hoping/planning to go another five days with <20 net carbs and then start adding them back, but I feel pretty punk, to tell you the truth. Dopey and tired. And I tried tofu in a smoothie today and it was so awful I couldn't choke down the last bit. Hate to waste a meal on a failed experiment! I'll never do that again!

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Martha, did your doctor gradually reduce the dosage of BP meds over time? I am curious b/c my DH is on a BP med, but since we've been doing LC, his numbers are very close to 'normal' for him. I wondered how the doctor would go about reducing his med.

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Martha, did your doctor gradually reduce the dosage of BP meds over time? I am curious b/c my DH is on a BP med, but since we've been doing LC, his numbers are very close to 'normal' for him. I wondered how the doctor would go about reducing his med.

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My doctor cut the dosage in half once, when my BP started going too low and I got dizzy. (I called him on the phone -- I've had this hypertension thing for a lot of years and have a monitor at home.) Now my numbers are right at normal most of the time.

If your DH's numbers are getting close to normal, I would think that that would mean BP is better controlled now and meds would stay the same, but hey, I am not a doctor. Good luck with this.

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Hi all. Been doing NK for about 2 months now, and have lost about 6 lbs. Hardest thing for me is keeping the protein down to 75-80g. I use an online calorie counter to keep track of my numbers. It calculates the protein in sour cream, mayo and heavy cream, and bacon, making it really hard for me to do fat bombs and adding fat without bringing up my protein totals. Do you include those amounts when calculating your macros?
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Hi all. Been doing NK for about 2 months now, and have lost about 6 lbs. Hardest thing for me is keeping the protein down to 75-80g. I use an online calorie counter to keep track of my numbers. It calculates the protein in sour cream, mayo and heavy cream, and bacon, making it really hard for me to do fat bombs and adding fat without bringing up my protein totals. Do you include those amounts when calculating your macros?
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How many fat bombs do you eat a day? Butter and coconut oil do not have any protein. I use that for my fat bombs. But I do not eat a lot of those. You really get most of your fat in your meat, fish, cheese, and eggs. I don't eat a lot of sour cream or mayo, so they do not add up to much. I eat less than 60 grams of protein a day. Do you just have a few pounds to lose? If not and you only lost 6 pounds in two months, you may be eating too much food.
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Love to knit--thanks for the reply. Too much food in calories? I try to keep that within 15-1800. The hardest for me is the protein, and it can vary between 60-90g. Love mayo, so use that alot--salad dressing, a dip for my chicken. Don't have fat bombs often, but do use cream in my coffee and eggs. Just getting frustrated here! Calories matter/they don't matter. Carbs are always low-15g or less. Am in ketosis--a whopping .7 (in am)! I've lost with atkins 75lbs and I'm an incredibly slow loser--took 3 years to do--and have honestly stayed clean 99% of that time. Started to go off induction and wasn't happy with the increased hunger when starting up the carb rung and found NK.
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Love to knit--thanks for the reply. Too much food in calories? I try to keep that within 15-1800. The hardest for me is the protein, and it can vary between 60-90g. Love mayo, so use that alot--salad dressing, a dip for my chicken. Don't have fat bombs often, but do use cream in my coffee and eggs. Just getting frustrated here! Calories matter/they don't matter. Carbs are always low-15g or less. Am in ketosis--a whopping .7 (in am)! I've lost with atkins 75lbs and I'm an incredibly slow loser--took 3 years to do--and have honestly stayed clean 99% of that time. Started to go off induction and wasn't happy with the increased hunger when starting up the carb rung and found NK.
So you have already lost 75 pounds. That explains the slow loss. Our bodies start to fight back when we lose a lot of weight. Just hang in there. You will lose the weight. It will just take time. As far as calories counting, they do and they don't. Some things make me gain that are very low calorie. Foods like fat does not affect my weight. In fact it actually helps my weight loss. If I eat even a small amount of fruit, I gain. To many sweeteners and I don't lose and I may even gain. Even too much spinach, and I gain. I do make sure that I get at least 1200 calories a day, because I do not want to quit losing all together because my body is not getting enough energy. Most days I eat more than that, mostly in fat. Some days I am just not that hungry, so I keep it about that level. If I am a little low for the day, I will add some coconut oil in my peppermint tea. I am sure you are doing everything right. Just don't give up. My husband and I always say, "The body just does not want to give it up."
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