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Old 06-14-2013, 02:18 PM   #1
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blood glucose and ketone levels

I have read many posts on this but it's still not clicking for me.

I am really new to blood testing. I have been glucose testing with a Bayer Contour on and off for a week or so and it has always fallen in the normal range before and after meals and when fasting from what I understand.

It seems to be 100-115 after meal, 90-92 fasting, and 85-90 before meal.

Today I received a free Nova Max Plus meter in the mail which measures ketone levels... My reading was 0.9.

I'm mostly confused about the ketone levels - is this sufficient for weight loss? Should it be higher? The box ranks on green (good), yellow (caution) and red (bad) levels and this falls in the yellow level.

I am a slow loser at 205 lbs. I am usually 15-20 net carbs, most coming from the Atkins induction list. It is the week before my period and I have had a few tbs of peanut butter this week which is a staller for me but I was having cravings like whoa so this helped.

So.. how do these numbers look and what should I do to improve them if the numbers are not good?
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:23 PM   #2
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first, ignore the good/caution/bad thing. that is for an entirely different purpose. when diabetics who are NOT on a low carb diet have ketones, it's a problem. totally different thing than you having them, when higher is better.

your level is lower than the people doing NK aim for, I think. I don't know much about how when you test affects that though.

you can lose weight fine like this, but some people feel the extra effort to get deeper into ketosis is worth it. I'm sure they will chime in here!

good luck.
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:38 PM   #3
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I think anything above 0.5 means you are in NK, but some people aim for much higher readings--whether higher readings are necessary or even desirable is a question. There are massive NK threads here on LC Friends where you may get a more detailed answer.

The time of day you test makes a difference--supposedly it's lowest in the morning, highest several hours after eating your last meal of the day.
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Old 06-14-2013, 05:18 PM   #4
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0.5 to 3 or so on the blood ketone meter is considered nutritional ketosis. You might check the NK forum, a few others there use blood ketone meters. I know time of day can affect the reading.
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I test first thing in the morning, when I first wake up. Your blood ketones are supposed to be at their lowest at this time. I usually get a reading of 2.5-4.7, and once it was even 5.1. For me, that's a good indicator to me that I'm firmly in Ketosis.
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0.9 is considered to be in nutritional ketosis. That is an excellent reading if it was done in the AM, still not bad if it wasn't.
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It was late afternoon, when is the best time to test? A couple hours after last meal?
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Most people test first thing in the morning.
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Yes, testing first thing the in AM will give you a good idea if you are staying in NK at all times.
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Okay I will test first thing in the am and post the results... Thanks!
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I test first thing in the morning, when I first wake up. Your blood ketones are supposed to be at their lowest at this time. I usually get a reading of 2.5-4.7, and once it was even 5.1. For me, that's a good indicator to me that I'm firmly in Ketosis.
Wow! Those sound like high numbers for first thing in the morning? Do you test every morning? I got my free novamax machine with the two free test strips but I haven't bought any bc they're so expensive. I'm thinking it might be really motivating to test regularly though, and I am in need of a little motivation.

Tinamanni, Are you shooting for NK? I'm so curious about your results...
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Old 06-15-2013, 11:08 PM   #12
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They are really expensive. I got both, but keep talking myself out of buying test strips because of the cost.
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:07 AM   #13
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I am aiming for whatever makes me lose weight faster I was really just curious and then wanted to know what my results meant.

I am going to buy the strips 1x since they sent a coupon. Still expensive but I am curious.

This morning I tested at 0.4 which according to you all is too low.

Again, I didn't do the best I could to stay on plan. I didn't really go off but had too much peanut butter. I am interested in seeing how things look if I cut out the peanut butter which is most definitely happening because it messes up my weight loss as it is.

What do people usually do to get these numbers higher?
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:49 AM   #14
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0.4 is still in ketosis, but 0.5 - 3.0 is considered optimal. I wouldn't freak out too much. I bet if you just skip the peanut butter, that'll do the trick.
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Wow! Those sound like high numbers for first thing in the morning? Do you test every morning? I got my free novamax machine with the two free test strips but I haven't bought any bc they're so expensive. I'm thinking it might be really motivating to test regularly though, and I am in need of a little motivation.
Yes, I test every morning when I first get up. Pee, test, weigh. LOL The strips are stinking expensive. I usually buy mine on Ebay. Still expensive, but a little cheaper than I've been able to find them anywhere else.
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I cannot get this stupid number higher. 0.1 this morning - the highest I have seen in the am is 0.5 and it's usually lower. help
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You should check out this info....

This might be good as a skicky... what do you think?
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:12 AM   #18
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.9 today!!!!
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.9 today!!!!
Awesome. I just ordered strips and measured "Lo."

I love gadgets though and find them very motivating.
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My meter reads ketones, but that's not the same as ketosis...at least that's the explanation I was given. When I was first diagnosed as diabetic and my BG's were above 400, it was not unusual for my meter to tell me my ketones were high. Now, I'm always in ketosis (can tell by my breath...a big giveaway), my BG levels are around 90-95 and my 'ketones' are low.
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My meter reads ketones, but that's not the same as ketosis...at least that's the explanation I was given. When I was first diagnosed as diabetic and my BG's were above 400, it was not unusual for my meter to tell me my ketones were high. Now, I'm always in ketosis (can tell by my breath...a big giveaway), my BG levels are around 90-95 and my 'ketones' are low.
0.5 - 3.0 mM beta-hydroxybutyrate (the ketone measured by blood ketone meters) along with normal blood sugar is considered "nutritional ketosis". Your body may be make ketones (i.e., be in ketosis) without the level being high enough for nutritional ketosis.

Diabetic ketoacidosis would involve very high blood glucose (insulin not present) and much higher levels of blood ketones, like 10 fold higher than seen in NK.
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