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Old 06-12-2013, 09:29 AM   #121
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Good morning everybody!





Sorry to hear about your fur baby I love my dogs so much.


I have happy, very happy news!! I lost 1.6 pounds and I'm down to 162.8

Here's my food for yesterday:

B:nothing
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D:Shrimp egg foo young/cream cheese/Thai chili pepper sauce
S: 1tbsp EVCO/cream cheese with Torani raspberry syrup/1 cube shrimp bouillon
90grF/36grP/21gC - 1072 calories (that's all the food I could stomach)
475 calories burned through exercise
Thank you for your kind words.

I was wondering if you would share your egg foo young recipe (assuming you are making it yourself)!!
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:31 AM   #122
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Okay I had 0.6 for 5 days in a row, and then it went to 0.2 and then Lo on my meter. I always log my food, and keep track of everything I eat... I always test my blood ketones first thing in the morning, empty stomach, no food or coffee ... my carbs (not net) have been about 63, 35, 30, 42, then 22 for the last 5 days, not counting today. i dropped out of ketones the last 2 days... so the 42, then 22... but did not have tomatoes yesterday, just lettuce and avocado and ceasar creamy dressing for lunch... not sure if thats why my carbs were lower...
I would suggest keeping your carbs around the 20g mark and continue with the fat and protein amounts that you have established for yourself. Test again next week and see where you are. In the meantime, come here and discuss it. I find having a venue for the things that I want to talk about really helps.

Btw, what meter are you using?
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Cathy, Congrats on the loss! WTG!!!


And Cathy (catjrow3)I completely agree with Cathy about lowering your carbs. I've not gone over 12g carbs in the 70 days that I've been doing this, and to be honest after I did 12 I had cravings. I know it's a short period of time, but for me personally, I wouldn't be in ketosis if I had over 15 g's carbs, which I guess is why I'm here and not over in Atkins Induction, etc.

Just experiment with it until you find your sweet spot, something that's working, something that you can live with.

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I would suggest keeping your carbs around the 20g mark and continue with the fat and protein amounts that you have established for yourself. Test again next week and see where you are. In the meantime, come here and discuss it. I find having a venue for the things that I want to talk about really helps.

Btw, what meter are you using?
Thanks Cathy. I am using the Nova Max Plus...

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Cathy, Congrats on the loss! WTG!!!


And Cathy (catjrow3)I completely agree with Cathy about lowering your carbs. I've not gone over 12g carbs in the 70 days that I've been doing this, and to be honest after I did 12 I had cravings. I know it's a short period of time, but for me personally, I wouldn't be in ketosis if I had over 15 g's carbs, which I guess is why I'm here and not over in Atkins Induction, etc.

Just experiment with it until you find your sweet spot, something that's working, something that you can live with.
Thanks April. I am working on it. I have been lowering them over time, but I used to be a carb junkie, i.e. like 150+ a day (Standard american diet type) but I find I cannot get the veges in with so little carbs...
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Thank you for your kind words.

I was wondering if you would share your egg foo young recipe (assuming you are making it yourself)!!
Oh I wish I could do that egg foo young myself! Nope. I'm lucky because the neighborhood Chinese joint is awesome. Family-owned, it's like paleo heaven. They only use super fresh veggies and stuff. I could eat it every day if I could afford takeout every day

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Thanks Cathy. I am using the Nova Max .
I'm using the Nova too.

I guess workout might not happen today. My hubby is down with a cold and I'm tending to him. Poor thing, he never gets sick, but when he does get sick it's not pretty.
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Egg Foo Young!

I second the recipe request! Please
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I found this recipe on line. I would just omit the oyster sauce. Otherwise, looks pretty low carb friendly. I am going to run it through my food tracker and see the #s look like!
Egg Foo Young Recipe

Makes 3 omelet | Prep Time: 10 Minutes | Cook Time: 10 Minutes

Ingredients:

3 large eggs, at room temperature
2 oz bean sprouts
2 oz ground pork
4 medium-sized shrimp, peeled and cut into small pieces
1 scallion, cut into small rings
1/2 teaspoon sesame oil
1 teaspoon Shaoxing wine, optional
1 teaspoon oyster sauce
2 teaspoons soy sauce
Pinch of sugar
3 dashes white pepper
3 tablespoons oil

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Crack the eggs into a bowl, beat with a fork. Add the rest of the ingredients into the egg mixture, stir to combine well. Make sure the oyster sauce is fully dissolved in the egg mixture.

Heat up a wok or a pan on high heat. Add the oil. When the oil is fully heated, ladle the egg mixture into the pan. Make sure that you keep the diameter of the omelet to about 4-5 inches wide. Use a pair of chopsticks to transfer the beansprouts and other ingredients to the middle of the omelet. The omelet should be thicker in the center. Let the omelet set, for about 3 minutes before flipping it over. Fry the omelet until both sides are golden brown and nicely puffed up. Repeat the same and use the remaining egg mixture to make a total of 3 omelets.

Per serving.. 274 Cal 4g carb 1 g fiber 22g fat 12g protein
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Thanks Cathy! So this is what I came up with.

Fat (76%) Carbs (6%) Protein (18%)

I am having trouble losing unless I am fat fasting. In NK even with 80% of my calories from fat I am maintaining or even creeping up. I am not sure at this point what a maintenance level of Fat/portein/carbs will be.
To achieve 80% fat with 55-60 protein, it is very hard to stay in the
1200-1400 calories and even there I maintain or gain!
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Thanks Cathy! So this is what I came up with.

Fat (76%) Carbs (6%) Protein (18%)

I am having trouble losing unless I am fat fasting. In NK even with 80% of my calories from fat I am maintaining or even creeping up. I am not sure at this point what a maintenance level of Fat/portein/carbs will be.
To achieve 80% fat with 55-60 protein, it is very hard to stay in the
1200-1400 calories and even there I maintain or gain!
Kathy, I think I am the same way too... if I start adding in much protein, bam, I am not losing... its hard to exist on just cream cheese and HwC as well!! how long have you stayed in fat fasting in the past? I heard you should not do it for that long... but hey... rules are tested all the time...
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Thanks Cathy! So this is what I came up with.

Fat (76%) Carbs (6%) Protein (18%)

I am having trouble losing unless I am fat fasting. In NK even with 80% of my calories from fat I am maintaining or even creeping up. I am not sure at this point what a maintenance level of Fat/portein/carbs will be.
To achieve 80% fat with 55-60 protein, it is very hard to stay in the
1200-1400 calories and even there I maintain or gain!
I think it better to go by actual grams rather than a ratio. I like to keep a tight reign on carbs and protein by tracking the grams and then adding in the fat. My ratios take care of themselves that way.
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Cathy can you tell me what that looks like for you please.
I would like to get a good handle on this.
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As of today I have been on NK for one full month! It has been fairly easy the last couple weeks after getting into the swing of things. I initially dropped 4-5 pounds the first week or two, but in the last 10 days or so nothing has budged. I am not getting upset though since I know the scale can be a big liar! I hope to see a woosh very soon, but if not I will go to plan B.
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As of today I have been on NK for one full month! It has been fairly easy the last couple weeks after getting into the swing of things. I initially dropped 4-5 pounds the first week or two, but in the last 10 days or so nothing has budged. I am not getting upset though since I know the scale can be a big liar! I hope to see a woosh very soon, but if not I will go to plan B.
Whats plan B??
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Kathy, I think I am the same way too... if I start adding in much protein, bam, I am not losing... its hard to exist on just cream cheese and HwC as well!! how long have you stayed in fat fasting in the past? I heard you should not do it for that long... but hey... rules are tested all the time...
Oops sorry I missed this! This is my second 5 day fast in a month, but what I've eaten in between is not that different
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Whats plan B??
Plan B would be to restrict my calories further. Right now my daily range is about 1500-1600 but I don't want to go too low right off the bat. I like cycling calories through the week having high and low days, so I might need to keep those lows "lower" and the highs less frequent. Unfortunately I'm one of these people that cannot lose without watching calories even on low carb.
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Plan B would be to restrict my calories further. Right now my daily range is about 1500-1600 but I don't want to go too low right off the bat. I like cycling calories through the week having high and low days, so I might need to keep those lows "lower" and the highs less frequent. Unfortunately I'm one of these people that cannot lose without watching calories even on low carb.
Oh me too! I am shooting for lower and still having a time of it... doing 78-80% fat, and low protein and low carbs and calories around 1200-1300 and still barely moving the scale!! Mind I would be gaining if not doing this... boo!! LOL
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My goals are 14g of carbohydrate, 55g of protein and 92g of fat. Obviously I don't hit that smack on very often but am in the range most days.
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My goals are 14g of carbohydrate, 55g of protein and 92g of fat. Obviously I don't hit that smack on very often but am in the range most days.
Cathy thank you, this helps a lot! I know we are all individuals and your mileage may vary, but if you find yourself bored would you consider helping further by telling me what you eat in a day to achieve this? I feel like I need an advanced degree in body chemistry!
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Cathy thank you, this helps a lot! I know we are all individuals and your mileage may vary, but if you find yourself bored would you consider helping further by telling me what you eat in a day to achieve this? I feel like I need an advanced degree in body chemistry!
As it happens, I have been posting in the main lobby on the daily 'what are you eating' thread.

It's THURSDAY! What are you eating?
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It's THURSDAY! What are you eating?
Oh YAY!!! I'll head over there!!! Thanks for your patience!!
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Ohhh that sounds good.... I like the gravy idea!!
I thought so! I need to get around and make it myself to see how it comes out.

Dr. P says in the book that resistance training increases ketosis, so that's another thing that you guys can take into consideration. As much as I like it, I cut down my cardio in favor of more resistance stuff - mostly body weight, some light/mid/heavy weights, even kettlebells splashed here and there.

Yesterday was the bacon day Also, I had one of those chopped salads from Subway and it was good too. Do we have a food porn thread for NK? that would be nice, what do you guys think?

Weight stable today. TOM isn't that far away, so I'm not hoping to lose lots for the remainder of this week and the next.

My food for yesterday:

B: nothing
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1227 cals - 91gF/74gP/21gC/7gF - 67% fat/24%protein
565 calories burned through exercise

Back when I did fat fasts cream cheese stalled me, but now it's pretty much a staple for me. Funny how things change, no?
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Dr. P says in the book that resistance training increases ketosis, so that's another thing that you guys can take into consideration. As much as I like it, I cut down my cardio in favor of more resistance stuff - mostly body weight, some light/mid/heavy weights, even kettlebells splashed here and there.
I was going to ask folks about exercise.... I am terribly guilty of not moving enough. I have a desk job so I know it's really important too. Last year I got into weight training but found that moderate to high exercise increased my hunger level and it was a constant battle to keep it contained. Granted I was not eating low carb then, but do you think that's less of an issue because of the way we eat?
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Good morning girls, talk about stalled scales!! UGH!!

Its ovulation week for me, which usually means weight gain/stall, so I am trying to take it in stride and ride the wave and hope that i have a nice drop when its done.

as for the exercise talk, I am a major lover of exercise. I love love cardio, but have also cut it way back, for several reasons. I keep reading that more than 30 minutes is just stressful to your body and increases your cortisol level, which makes losing even harder, and also because I have plantar fascitis now, and my heel kills me. But I love kickboxing, Turbo Fire, Running, etc...

I am still walking every night, for 45 minutes to an hour... I have not done weights in a week or two, but plan to add it back in! Need to! I know. the more muscle, the more you burn even at rest. I have read all my brain can handle on the exercise/diet crap... always in an attempt to find the right thing for me and losing weight!! High intensity, short interval cardio is best (HIIT) sprints, etc... I exercise mostly because it makes me feel good. endorphins help my mood and good sweatiness makes me feel like I did something!!

So... as for the ketones... I remeasured again today 1.2! So I guess after my salad diabolicals I am back in blood ketosis too! Now if the scale would recognize this and drop I would be in heaven!!

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AS: 1 TBSP HWC in diet root beer
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ES: pork rinds/sour cream onion dip (and I tested a small slice of bread I made from Marie Emmerichs' Amazing bread)
Calories: 1131, Carb: 33 (17 net) (11%) Protein: 27 (10%) Fat: 99 (79%) Fiber: 16
Exercise burned: 910 calories
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Good morning girls, talk about stalled scales!! UGH!!
as for the exercise talk, I am a major lover of exercise. I love love cardio, but have also cut it way back, for several reasons. I keep reading that more than 30 minutes is just stressful to your body and increases your cortisol level, which makes losing even harder, and also because I have plantar fascitis now, and my heel kills me. But I love kickboxing, Turbo Fire, Running, etc...

I am still walking every night, for 45 minutes to an hour... I have not done weights in a week or two, but plan to add it back in! Need to! I know. the more muscle, the more you burn even at rest. I have read all my brain can handle on the exercise/diet crap... always in an attempt to find the right thing for me and losing weight!! High intensity, short interval cardio is best (HIIT) sprints, etc... I exercise mostly because it makes me feel good. endorphins help my mood and good sweatiness makes me feel like I did something!!
I've heard that too about cortisol and stress. I'm motivated to go on a nice, long walk tomorrow morning to clear my head and enjoy the morning sunshine! With all the food and exercise stress about doing things "right", it does get overwhelming. I think when we are in fat loss mode we want the most "bang for our buck" each day. In the past I got so worked up about being perfect I ended up sabotaging and throwing the towel in. I'm trying to keep things as simple as I possibly can because I want this to be a lifestyle, not a diet.

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I've heard that too about cortisol and stress. I'm motivated to go on a nice, long walk tomorrow morning to clear my head and enjoy the morning sunshine! With all the food and exercise stress about doing things "right", it does get overwhelming. I think when we are in fat loss mode we want the most "bang for our buck" each day. In the past I got so worked up about being perfect I ended up sabotaging and throwing the towel in. I'm trying to keep things as simple as I possibly can because I want this to be a lifestyle, not a diet.
And luckily for me, even when I blow the diet, which I have gone up and down 40 lbs in the last couple of years... I never give up the exercise, because I so love that part. So that I was able to make a lifestyle change. Before I started dieting the first time in 2009, I never exercised, never walked, definitely no lifting and no running and no cardio... So I am glad that one "change" "Stuck!!" LOL

Now get a grip on the food and I will be in business! Enjoy your walk!
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I was going to ask folks about exercise.... I am terribly guilty of not moving enough. I have a desk job so I know it's really important too. Last year I got into weight training but found that moderate to high exercise increased my hunger level and it was a constant battle to keep it contained. Granted I was not eating low carb then, but do you think that's less of an issue because of the way we eat?
My work is pretty sedentary too, that's why I make a point and get my sweat on most days. I'm guessing that your workouts weren't as moderate considering your current level of fitness. Or in other words, what's a nice and moderate workout for an ultra marathoner could pretty much kill me Too strenuous long cardio or super heavy b@lls to the wall lifting get me ravenous too, so I have to adjust my love for blood and tears to something that I enjoy and allows me to lose the chubs.

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And luckily for me, even when I blow the diet, which I have gone up and down 40 lbs in the last couple of years... I never give up the exercise, because I so love that part. So that I was able to make a lifestyle change. Before I started dieting the first time in 2009, I never exercised, never walked, definitely no lifting and no running and no cardio... So I am glad that one "change" "Stuck!!" LOL

Now get a grip on the food and I will be in business! Enjoy your walk!
Way to go!! Awesome that the exercise part stuck. Exercise has so many benefits. Not every type of exercise as great when it comes to lose weight, but it sure is good for aging strong and healthy. I cringe when I see those old ladies that can barely walk... and they're in their 70s!! My grandma is pushing 100 years old, and she still walks every day no walker, no cane, she just walks straight and strong

I love Turbo Fire. Those DVDs are like a chocolate brownie to me. The push-ups and the planks ... well, that's another story
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My work is pretty sedentary too, that's why I make a point and get my sweat on most days. I'm guessing that your workouts weren't as moderate considering your current level of fitness. Or in other words, what's a nice and moderate workout for an ultra marathoner could pretty much kill me Too strenuous long cardio or super heavy b@lls to the wall lifting get me ravenous too, so I have to adjust my love for blood and tears to something that I enjoy and allows me to lose the chubs.



Way to go!! Awesome that the exercise part stuck. Exercise has so many benefits. Not every type of exercise as great when it comes to lose weight, but it sure is good for aging strong and healthy. I cringe when I see those old ladies that can barely walk... and they're in their 70s!! My grandma is pushing 100 years old, and she still walks every day no walker, no cane, she just walks straight and strong

I love Turbo Fire. Those DVDs are like a chocolate brownie to me. The push-ups and the planks ... well, that's another story
Haha me too! Hate pushups and planks!!!!
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Haha me too! Hate pushups and planks!!!!
I loathe them girlfriend!! However though, deep inside I know those are my only hope to get rid of that heinous bra fat, so I suck it up and rock them as much as I can

Happy dance!! I'm down to 162 pounds!! .4# down from yesterday

I had a lot of sour cream yesterday, so I guess it's my best friend now. SC was one of my "sure stallers" while doing Atkins or M&E fasts, go figure

My food yesterday:

B:thick cut bacon, one fried egg, pesto, sour cream
L: nothing
D:crumbled bacon, one fried egg, pesto, sour cream
S: half of a small hass avocado/sour cream with lemon Crystal Light and splenda
1065 calories - 89gF/45gP/14gC - 75% fat, 17% protein
730 calories burned through exercise

That meal with bacon and eggs is going to be a staple for me. It's one fried egg, fried in bacon fat, two slices of thick cut bacon, 2 tbsp of pesto and 2 tbsp of sour cream - 365 calories - 32gF/15gP/3gC Very filling and tasty. The pesto is from Costco, the organic Cibo brand. Tastes very fresh and has plenty of Parmesan cheese
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Old 06-15-2013, 01:27 PM   #149
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I loathe them girlfriend!! However though, deep inside I know those are my only hope to get rid of that heinous bra fat, so I suck it up and rock them as much as I can

Happy dance!! I'm down to 162 pounds!! .4# down from yesterday

I had a lot of sour cream yesterday, so I guess it's my best friend now. SC was one of my "sure stallers" while doing Atkins or M&E fasts, go figure

My food yesterday:

B:thick cut bacon, one fried egg, pesto, sour cream
L: nothing
D:crumbled bacon, one fried egg, pesto, sour cream
S: half of a small hass avocado/sour cream with lemon Crystal Light and splenda
1065 calories - 89gF/45gP/14gC - 75% fat, 17% protein
730 calories burned through exercise

That meal with bacon and eggs is going to be a staple for me. It's one fried egg, fried in bacon fat, two slices of thick cut bacon, 2 tbsp of pesto and 2 tbsp of sour cream - 365 calories - 32gF/15gP/3gC Very filling and tasty. The pesto is from Costco, the organic Cibo brand. Tastes very fresh and has plenty of Parmesan cheese

Not many calories here? Kathy
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:32 PM   #150
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Rib Eye Steak? Does anyone have the "vital statistics" for one. My online program does not and if I google it I get tons of different answers. Thanks, Kathy
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