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Old 03-31-2013, 09:14 AM   #1651
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Okay today's weigh in 191.0 so dropped .8 from yesterday. I'll take it

Today is going to be kinda strange as we have an Easter lunch with my wife's grandmother and she's doing a turkey (for Easter??) so yeah, I'll post up tonight my macros, but they will be off because of lunch. I figure, I'll just stick to dark meat and some salad and call it a lunch, lol.

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Old 03-31-2013, 09:15 AM   #1652
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I really don't think its low at all.. looking in the mirror, I still look soft and alot curvier than I want to be.

I found this on a website: For women between age 20 and 40, 19% to 26% body fat is generally good to excellent. For women age 40+ to 60+, 23% to 30% is considered good to excellent.

Also, I don't get ammenorrheic until I go below 16%, so I still feel OK losing more.
What is your goal BF%? I was thinking that 25% was the lower end of the bracket for most women.

Ah. I'm sure I got that from another post here at LCF but I bet it came from wiki (screenshot).

You should throw rocks at the mirror anyway. It almost never tells the truth to the person in front of it.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:16 AM   #1653
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Okay today's weigh in 191.0 so dropped .8 from yesterday. I'll take it

Today is going to be kinda strange as we have an Easter lunch with my wife's grandmother and she's doing a turkey (for Easter??) so yeah, I'll post up tonight my macros, but they will be off because of lunch. I figure, I'll just stick to dark meat and some salad and call it a lunch, lol.

Congrats on all the losses today, and thanks for being such a welcoming and supportive group.
Congrats!!!

Sounds like a good plan for handling lunch. Maybe eat something LC before you go to shore up your LC willpower.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:20 AM   #1654
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What is your goal BF%? I was thinking that 25% was the lower end of the bracket for most women.

Ah. I'm sure I got that from another post here at LCF but I bet it came from wiki (screenshot).

You should throw rocks at the mirror anyway. It almost never tells the truth to the person in front of it.
I will be satisfied around 19-20% BF. Really, whatever weight/BF I get to where my love handles disappear, I will be happy.

Kind of annoyed right now as none of my size 4 pants are fitting due to my legs getting bigger from tons of kettlebell swings and lower body exercises, but oh well. I've been adding back in running 3-4x a week to lean out a bit.

I should add that my actual body weight at this point isn't bothering me in the slighest because I know it is muscle. When I weighed 130 a couple years ago, I was wearing 6-8 pants.

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Old 03-31-2013, 09:44 AM   #1655
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LISA, WHAT IS THIS PEANUT BUTTER TOAST YOU SPEAK OF? Do tell.
haha, it's just Sara Lee diet wheat bread with natural peanut butter. The bread has 7 carbs and 2.5 g fiber per slice. I guess it's kind of a cheat but I managed to fit it in without going over on carbs for the day.

I had to throw out the loaf though because I don't eat bread every day, and then only 1 slice. It went moldy! Next time I'll keep it in the freezer.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:57 AM   #1656
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Weigh in this morning: 188, same as last Sunday. booo-urns. I averaged 1480 calories per day over the last week, and 79 g of protein.

I'm going to make an effort to up my calories to 1600 this week and see how it goes. I also need to cut out stuff like LC wraps and get back to the basics with more vegetables and fat.
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:19 AM   #1657
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Try avoiding wheat based but LC friendly foods like that bread too Lisa
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:38 AM   #1658
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Try avoiding wheat based but LC friendly foods like that bread too Lisa
I don't think I have a problem with wheat or gluten, but agree that non-starchy vegetables or even a few berries are a better choice for carbs.

I'm checking out Linda Sue's side dish recipes for vegetable ideas. The caveman keto blog also has some great recipes.
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Grilled salmon and roasted brussel sprouts in onion and bacon grease with 1/4 cup of left over smoked beef brisket. Oh my goodness. If you like brussel sprouts this is a yummy recipe. You could also substitute bacon.

Clueless: I like to add almond extract to my ricotta with a touch of vanilla splenda, toast almonds and sprinkled on top.

If I am really good I just use ricotta with 4 drops of capella flavor--called cake batter or hot cocoa concentrate (no calories, carbs or sweetners). This helps me if I have having need for a "sweet dessert".

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Old 03-31-2013, 10:50 AM   #1660
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Here is a very interesting podcast I just listened to: Google "fat burning man Dr. Lauren Noel: Food as Medicine, Why Doctors Smoke, and How to Have a Rockstar Poop".

Right at 15 minutes Abel asks Dr. Noel about having a rockstar poop. She talks about probiotics, prebiotics, eating environment, et. al. She also mentions drinking too much while eating because it dilutes your stomach acid. That is very interesting all by itself but it is also really interesting because limiting fluids is part of the Leptin Reset that Deb34 posted a few days ago.

Right at 25 minutes Dr. Noel talks about thyroid. She says that gut flora can be a big player in thyroid health. And she says that gut flora can take a long time to recover from antibiotics. She also describes TSH, T4 and T3 and making sure the doc is actually testing for T3 instead of diagnosis by inferring from the other two numbers.

Lots of other good stuff on the podcast too.

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Old 03-31-2013, 10:52 AM   #1661
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I was worried that I had kicked myself out of NK from a dinner we had Friday night. I tested this morning and I was at 0.5 so happy about that. Ordered a new digital scale and I can't wait to get it! The one I have now is not digital and is a pain to use.

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Oh! Dr. Noel also mentioned that fillings can wreck your thyroid too. Wow.
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I don't think I have a problem with wheat or gluten, but agree that non-starchy vegetables or even a few berries are a better choice for carbs.
Oh, I wasn't thinking in terms of wheat or gluten intolerance. I was thinking about the insulin response to wheat. You'll have that even if you could otherwise live on a wheat diet.
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How to Have a Rockstar Poop".

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Oh! Dr. Noel also mentioned that fillings can wreck your thyroid too. Wow.
I have wondered about that and heard that many times.
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lol right?!? That rockstar poop thing is what made me look at the episode. The thyroid information was icing on the wheat-free LC cake not even mentioned in the show notes.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:35 AM   #1667
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I have wondered about that and heard that many times.
It is the mercury in the amalgam fillings. I can't recall hearing it before but before our thread, lo these many months, I never looked into thyroid stuff.
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I was worried that I had kicked myself out of NK from a dinner we had Friday night. I tested this morning and I was at 0.5 so happy about that. Ordered a new digital scale and I can't wait to get it! The one I have now is not digital and is a pain to use.
You are gonna love your new digital scale coming from a non-digital one.
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It is the mercury in the amalgam fillings. I can't recall hearing it before but before our thread, lo these many months, I never looked into thyroid stuff.
I have studied a lot about thyroid disease thru the years. This comes up a lot. I have not had my fillings removed though. I have not been in the position to do that. I am more prone to an overactive thyroid so I am generally able to manage without medications once I educated myself.
Doctors in my part are not very open to working with the patient. I had 2 pretty awful Drs.
One had me taking 6 PTU pills a day for a year. He only rechecked in 6 month apts. When he checked my numbers they were in the lowest range of normal and he demanded I continue taking 6 PTU a day. I was so lethargic at that point I was in tears daily. And hardly able to function. So he prescribed antidepressants.
I came home Threw all the pills in the trash.
It took me along time to get my body figured out but I am a lot better now.
Thyroid disease is not very well understood by most Drs.
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Sup pals. Haven't been on in a while. It was
Passover and family was in town. I ate mostly well but did gain some water weight. Haven't really been on the site till now. Down to 321.9 this morning which is my lowest lately. However - I'm currently at my sisters in Toronto and the start of another sales trip. :/ oh boy.
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Sup pals. Haven't been on in a while. It was
Passover and family was in town. I ate mostly well but did gain some water weight. Haven't really been on the site till now. Down to 321.9 this morning which is my lowest lately. However - I'm currently at my sisters in Toronto and the start of another sales trip. :/ oh boy.
Congrats!!!

I thought you'd took off for the China trip Myles. I hope ya'll had a good time together
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Sup pals. Haven't been on in a while. It was
Passover and family was in town. I ate mostly well but did gain some water weight. Haven't really been on the site till now. Down to 321.9 this morning which is my lowest lately. However - I'm currently at my sisters in Toronto and the start of another sales trip. :/ oh boy.

Way to go!
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Congrats!!!

I thought you'd took off for the China trip Myles. I hope ya'll had a good time together
Naw dude. Sales trip till Friday. Then home for a week. Then sat the 13th It's off to Indonesia and china ;/
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You know now, every time I sit on the toilet, I'm going to want to be a rockstar hehe
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You know now, every time I sit on the toilet, I'm going to want to be a rockstar hehe
Don't poop standing up. Or was that don't eat standing up
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Big Pile up On I77 At the State line, 75 cars.
Hope Becky isn't any where near that.
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Today:

B:black coffee, slice chicken enchilada bake w/ salsa
L: 1 oz macadamia nuts, cup bouillon w/ 3T HWC
D: 2 pickles, 2 HB eggs, 4 slices of bacon

1059 calories/86g fat/14g carbs (10 net)/61g protein

Stomach feels weird, think its the D3 I'm taking. I feel really full.


ETA: I just had a huge breakthrough. Was dying for some frozen yogurt and almost went to get it. Instead, I had a couple tablespoons of almond butter straight off the spoon and felt completely gluttonous. It was awesome and my froyo craving is gone.

New macros:
1331 calories/111g fat/23g carbs (17 net)/68g protein

Those numbers look better all around.

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They do have a tiny bit of added sugar, so if you're avoiding sugar 100% they unfortunately wouldn't be an option for you (I have no idea why everything has added sugar either! ) but I find that the 2 carbs it adds is worth it for me, and I'm VLC on most days... only between 10-20 total. It's never kicked me out of ketosis either, so it's safe there too if you're not completely sugar free

But yes, bouillon and broth are basically the same things once you add water to the bouillon... it's just basically a concentrated broth that you can add to flavor things or use to make broth
I've not been diagnosed Type II, but I do have BG issues so I avoid sugar and artificial sweeteners like the plague. It sounds so good I'm going to try it with the chicken broth I use.
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Calories 1435

Fat: 121 76%
Pro: 71 19%
Carb: 17 5%


Breakfast: Salsa Sausage Quiche
Lunch: Salad, mascarpone cheese/ strawberry
Dinner: Taco salad
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Marcia, you have been doing low cal for many years, right?

I hesitate to endorse higher calories for you because of your thyroid and thyroid meds. On the Long Term Stalls podcast Phinney remarked that getting thyroid meds right is both an art and a science and it will make a big difference in weight loss results and stalls.

I never have tested my blood ketones but your levels look very good to me. Remember, though, Phinney said that good blood ketone readings does not mean you'll lose weight. It means that your body is more efficient at using fat for fuel. People that test regularly have said that some things can make your ketone count spike temporarily. Coconut oil, MCT oil, and exercise can do that.

The protein is the easy part, particularly since you are testing blood ketones because too much protein will push your blood ketones down. So, start at 1.5g/kg reference weight, 98g, and keep an eye on your blood ketones according to the people around here that test. I think Jimmy Moore said it too.

A range of 400 calories is a huge swing in calories. Do you know what your average has been for that time period? I use a spreadsheet to keep a running average of my calories, macro grams and macro ratios.

Try 1800 for a week and see how you do. Remember to track total carbs not net carbs.
No, I really haven't been on low calorie for any length of time since my last serious WW endeavor back in '06. Since then I've given half hearted attemps at dieting with LC and WW. I've been doing LC since Oct. with a major slide the month of Jan. You're right... 400 calories is a big swing... until I went back and looked I hadn't realized what I'd been doing. I think I'm going to strive for 1650, be strickter, weigh myself everyday, and see what happens. Not sure how to get 99g of protein without really increasing my fat. What should I eat?

As far as my thyroid... I'll be due for another blood test in May. I'm going to order my own blood tests at an independent lab. I'll be getting the TSH, Free T3, Free T4, and a Reverse T3... I've always had just the TSH and am now learning how useless that test is... such a shame the medical community is so out of the loop! Scary!

Ketones this morning 2.4, but tomorrow AM will be interesting. Went to my son's inlaws and there was sooooooo much dessert, candy, cookies, but ya know what... it really didn't bother me that much! Not that tempting at all! I did just fine... I did have ham (cut off the edge), a few veggies and dip, the salad and dressing I brought (so I know that was OK)... my only concern was a cucumber salad... learned later that the dressing did have a bit of sugar, but it was very thin so we'll see.

Hope everyone had a nice Easter and safe travels today.

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