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Old 03-15-2013, 11:42 AM   #901
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:57 AM   #902
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Hmmmm.

I'd try cutting down on protein a little and upping fat a little instead of drastic changes in both at one time.

Since your weight stabilized have you allowed carbs to creep up a bit? That could be the cause of your lack of satiety.

But. You've upped your protein. Eating extra protein could do that too since it is insulinogenic. It pushes up your insulin then you crash and feel like eating something sort of thing.

So, maybe back to your old levels of protein and add more good LC fats to satiety keeping an eye on the scale till you get a feel for the right level for the new you.

Could it be a combination of carb creep and extra protein causing the satiety issues?
Carbs and protein could be. I know I've been putting abit of whole milk in my tea as I don't drink it black. I think it might also be the extra protein since I've been having canned tuna ALOT past couple of months, sometimes 2 cans in a day. And when I'm hungry even after eating I always go for eggs hence more protein. I think I will try going for fat instead of protein when I'm hungry,see if it helps.
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Carbs and protein could be. I know I've been putting abit of whole milk in my tea as I don't drink it black. I think it might also be the extra protein since I've been having canned tuna ALOT past couple of months, sometimes 2 cans in a day. And when I'm hungry even after eating I always go for eggs hence more protein. I think I will try going for fat instead of protein when I'm hungry,see if it helps.
Or choose a fatty protein instead of a super lean protein like the tuna.
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Friday weight: 199.1
Yesterday: 198.2
Ketones: 1.4

About an hour and a half after dinner my heart started pounding which is a sign of I've had too many carbs. It got worse and worse. Checked my blood sugar and it was103. High for me. Checked it a while later. 106. Kept going up. Not sure how high it got during sleep but this morning's fasting glucose was 112 which is pretty darn high for me.

....something went terribly wrong.
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Had... macaroni and cheese ....I really don't know the culprit. Last time my blood sugar went up but I blamed diet coke.
I may be wrong but I think the culprit for the too many carbs and heart pounding and long lasting elevated BG is right there waving at you....wheat and probably mega carbs ...
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I posted my menu for the day over on the main board, but I've added dark chocolate since then because shark week has started. I won't weigh myself until next week because I'm probably carrying some extra water weight right now.

Friday's numbers: 1600 calories, 134 g fat, 76 g protein, 40 carbs, 14 g fiber.
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Yummm I finally made some good salad dressing. Dips mix, sour cream Bacon grease mayo, whipping cream and some lime.
Turned out pretty good.
I am trying to get all the soybean oils out. I am hopeful getting them out will help shrink my goiter some more.
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:00 PM   #907
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I may be wrong but I think the culprit for the too many carbs and heart pounding and long lasting elevated BG is right there waving at you....wheat and probably mega carbs ...
I figured she had some GF LC form of mac and cheese
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I may be wrong but I think the culprit for the too many carbs and heart pounding and long lasting elevated BG is right there waving at you....wheat and probably mega carbs ...
Oh no. Lol It's the recipe from the fat fast cookbook and uses shirataki noodles. Nice and low carb. But yeah...if I was eating pasta that would definitely be the culprit.
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I figured she had some GF LC form of mac and cheese
Oh, I thought she had been at a restaurant for the fajitas...and had the mac n cheese there...oops.
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Oh, I thought she had been at a restaurant for the fajitas...and had the mac n cheese there...oops.
No biggie
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Carbs and protein could be. I know I've been putting abit of whole milk in my tea as I don't drink it black. I think it might also be the extra protein since I've been having canned tuna ALOT past couple of months, sometimes 2 cans in a day. And when I'm hungry even after eating I always go for eggs hence more protein. I think I will try going for fat instead of protein when I'm hungry,see if it helps.
Do you like whipping cream in your tea? It only takes a tad bit.
Something that is good that Casey told us about. HWC in chicken broth, sometimes I add butter too. I could have it for lunch or snacks. It really makes you feel full. Taste like cream of chicken soup kinda.
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but I've added dark chocolate since then because shark week has started.


They had some funny commercials a year or two ago for shark week
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:10 PM   #913
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Do you like whipping cream in your tea? It only takes a tad bit.
Something that is good that Casey told us about. HWC in chicken broth, sometimes I add butter too. I could have it for lunch or snacks. It really makes you feel full. Taste like cream of chicken soup kinda.
Say, how much HWC do you use?
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Say, how much HWC do you use?
I put a tablespoon In my Chicken Broth, and sometimes a TB of Butter if I need my fat. But the HWC is enough
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Oh no. Lol It's the recipe from the fat fast cookbook and uses shirataki noodles. Nice and low carb. But yeah...if I was eating pasta that would definitely be the culprit.
I got some of those Miracle noodles and I was kinda skeered to try them. I finally opened the yesterday, mine smelled kinda fishy. My dog was all over me while I was trying to fix them. I musta botched it cause I couldn't eat them. Not sure if it was the smell or the chef.
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Darin, have you tried one of those little stick inhalers? Works good for me when I get that pressure headache. Also works when my eyes start watering during allergy season. I keep those inhalers around the house and in the car at all times.

Myles, I don't remember if you've measured yourself or not. The scale seems to be the least informative with this diet. The 20 or so inches I've lost in 7 months is what has kept me here. I lost 2 lbs initially, gained that and maybe 4 more back. But the inches lost were steady. Now I'm just beginning to see the scale move. Scale #1 died, #2 and #3 went back to store, as they would vascilate so much, you had no idea what was real. #4 is great, you step on it and it tells you your weight right away, what a concept!

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Old 03-15-2013, 04:10 PM   #917
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Darin, have you tried one of those little stick inhalers? Works good for me when I get that pressure headache. Also works when my eyes start watering during allergy season. I keep those inhalers around the house and in the car at all times.

Myles, I don't remember if you've measured yourself or not. The scale seems to be the least informative with this diet. The 20 or so inches I've lost in 7 months is what has kept me here. I lost 2 lbs initially, gained that and maybe 4 more back. But the inches lost were steady. Now I'm just beginning to see the scale move. Scale #1 died, #2 and #3 went back to store, as they would vascilate so much, you had no idea what was real. #4 is great, you step on it and it tells you your weight right away, what a concept!

Have trouble measuring yourself? Keep a piece of masking tape on the end of your tapemeasure.
What is a stick inhaler?

That is a good point about measuring and taking measurements
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Day 3 of FF today, down to 280.7!!

Back to normal tomorrow.
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Darin, its a 3" plastic tube with a wick inside full of some sort of menthol, just like we used to rub on our chests when congested. You inhale through one nostril while holding the other shut. Then change sides. Opens up your sinus caveties or unclogs a stuffed nose. Costs less than $2 generally at any drug store, grocery store, or health store. If you have it on hand, eucalyptus oil on a hanky works just as good. Looks like a chapstick tube.
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Day 3 of FF today, down to 280.7!!

Back to normal tomorrow.
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Darin, its a 3" plastic tube with a wick inside full of some sort of menthol, just like we used to rub on our chests when congested. You inhale through one nostril while holding the other shut. Then change sides. Opens up your sinus caveties or unclogs a stuffed nose. Costs less than $2 generally at any drug store, grocery store, or health store. If you have it on hand, eucalyptus oil on a hanky works just as good. Looks like a chapstick tube.
Oh! Got it. I know what you are talking about
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Day 3 of FF today, down to 280.7!!

Back to normal tomorrow.
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Calories 1805
Fat 120 67%
pro 99 25%
Carb 31 8%

Oppps
Should have planned my meals better. That dang 85% chocolate got me today. I had 3 squares
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Hi everyone!
Wanted to report in on my run today- first one after starting NK on Monday. So I was day 5 in, under 30 grams carbs for 5 days and I licked off my usual 6 k run better than ever! No difference in energy at all in spite of the fact that I ran it fasted (over 13 hours fasted) completed the whole 40 minutes effortlessly and then had to rush off to a bunch of appointments and did not eat until 2 pm. Normally I would have had an english muffin with peanut butter prior and been starving for lunch very shortly after. This WOE is amazing!! I had a big salad with turkey, avocado, tomato, some bacon and vinagrette for lunch and was not hungry until about 8 pm tonight. I can't believe how great i feel. And I was down another 0.5 today- to 147.5. So thats 6 pounds in 5 days! (crazy)
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Wanted to report in on my run today- first one after starting NK on Monday. So I was day 5 in, under 30 grams carbs for 5 days and I licked off my usual 6 k run better than ever! No difference in energy at all in spite of the fact that I ran it fasted (over 13 hours fasted) completed the whole 40 minutes effortlessly and then had to rush off to a bunch of appointments and did not eat until 2 pm. Normally I would have had an english muffin with peanut butter prior and been starving for lunch very shortly after. This WOE is amazing!! I had a big salad with turkey, avocado, tomato, some bacon and vinagrette for lunch and was not hungry until about 8 pm tonight. I can't believe how great i feel. And I was down another 0.5 today- to 147.5. So thats 6 pounds in 5 days! (crazy)
I can't wait to see what the next month brings Hope everyone has a fantastic weekend!
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That is amazing!!
Glad you are so happy and excited about this WOE.
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That's great! I hope you start an Endurance/Performance thread in this section. It would be easier to follow your progress and I know others are interested. These long threads get rolled over and specific topics are hard to find.
How many grams of protein are you eating?

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Hi everyone!
Wanted to report in on my run today- first one after starting NK on Monday. So I was day 5 in, under 30 grams carbs for 5 days and I licked off my usual 6 k run better than ever! No difference in energy at all in spite of the fact that I ran it fasted (over 13 hours fasted) completed the whole 40 minutes effortlessly and then had to rush off to a bunch of appointments and did not eat until 2 pm. Normally I would have had an english muffin with peanut butter prior and been starving for lunch very shortly after. This WOE is amazing!! I had a big salad with turkey, avocado, tomato, some bacon and vinagrette for lunch and was not hungry until about 8 pm tonight. I can't believe how great i feel. And I was down another 0.5 today- to 147.5. So thats 6 pounds in 5 days! (crazy)
I can't wait to see what the next month brings Hope everyone has a fantastic weekend!
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I got some of those Miracle noodles and I was kinda skeered to try them. I finally opened the yesterday, mine smelled kinda fishy. My dog was all over me while I was trying to fix them. I musta botched it cause I couldn't eat them. Not sure if it was the smell or the chef.
Did you rinse them really well, microwave for 1 minute, rinse again and then cook them? If not, give them another try...and I recommend the tofu shiritake noodles instead. They're 1-2 carbs, but the texture difference is worth it. Allowing them to soak for a while in whatever sauce you're using helps, too.

OTOH, my japanese brother-in-law grew up eating them, and now won't touch them. He looks at me disbelievingly when I make mac n' cheese with them. They're not for everyone, I guess.
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Queue the purely anecdotal story of misery: When I did NDR back in the mid-90s, I followed his guidelines to the letter - including giving up coffee/caffeine. By the end of the second day I thought my head was going to explode lol. I made a strong pot of coffee and drank it all and drank a few cokes too. That was the end of my dalliance with giving up caffeine

I kept everything else about NDR though and lost about 20 pounds in that month that I followed it. I quit because I couldn't drink alcohol on NDR and, at the time, I drank a lot of alcohol.
I was fine yesterday, no issues, today however i woke up with a somewhat pounding headache. But maybe i just slept funny and my cpap was too tight.. but just incase I Tried salt, water, no luck, so i just took 2 ibuprofen. :/ I never drank A LOT of coffee, but i did have at least one right when i woke up and another later in the morning for the last 6 months or so

I decided to add back dairy, but have not had any yet

And the China trip may be off, not sure yet, but we are still going to indonesia for a few days for sure.

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JM was testing his blood ketones regularly. I think you need to do that too if you are going to try to adopt his eating pattern. Did he ever post his menus? I think he is waiting to do that till the one year mark. And he follows the Performance book's formula as far as I know so that is something else to look at implementing.

When you followed LC for months and got no results what calorie level and total carb level were you eating?
I tested this morning just for the hell of it - .2 - And like was said Jimmy only posted a breakfast, not his regular menus. I was also thinking of just eating...more at a meal, and then not eating again till i was "hungry" instead of routinely. However i will say since i wasn't able to track on Wed/Thu properly because of the trade show, i did not track yesterday as well. I am tired of tracking :P -

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Did you rinse them really well, microwave for 1 minute, rinse again and then cook them? If not, give them another try...and I recommend the tofu shiritake noodles instead. They're 1-2 carbs, but the texture difference is worth it. Allowing them to soak for a while in whatever sauce you're using helps, too.

OTOH, my japanese brother-in-law grew up eating them, and now won't touch them. He looks at me disbelievingly when I make mac n' cheese with them. They're not for everyone, I guess.
Thanks MarryKate
No I just blanched them. I had to order those so if I find a deal I may give them another try.
I should have asked for tip from you guys before I tried them
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