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Old 02-24-2013, 12:20 PM   #871
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More from the Jimmy Moore podcast with Dr. Julia Ross just now ('Dr. Julia Ross jimmy moore atlcx 19')

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Dr. Ross: "...and what are the things that suppress thyroid function and interfere with it? Well, low calorie dieting. In 8 hours a real low calorie diet will turn down the thyroid. And then the question is will it ever turn up again naturally. For some people it will but then on the 5th diet it turns down and it won't turn up again.

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Dr. Ross: [JM asked about subbing LC/GF foods for high carb counterparts] "...and then the second way is the under eating way 'Okay! I'll just get rid of it all and I'll just, just do the protein and the vegetables and maybe some fats' - That's where I find you know that starvation mentality trips us up so badly."

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Dr. Ross: [eating enough] "...Some people just won't do it. They are just so low calorie diet programmed that they can't make themselves eat enough food. And it is so critical to eat enough. Because otherwise blood sugar crashes and we get these terrible cravings. So it is really important that we have enough protein enough fat as our fundamentals and then we move in on the healthy carbs."
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Are they like Steak-Umms? I like to mix up 2 or 3 of those with some roasted red peppers and provolone.. pretty high fat.

And being from right outside the Philadelphia area, one of my most missed foods is real Philly cheesesteaks. THE BEST.
Google 'Pioneer Woman steak bites' Casey. She is a carby person, sadly, but she has some great recipes on her site. She is sort of the modern day Lisa Douglas but she can cook
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Ok, I KNOW this question is probably in this thread somewhere...or one of them...so please forgive the question. I have done lc in one form or another for YEARS! None have really worked real well for me unless i was working out like a crazy psycho person (think Ozzy in the not so good years!) Well, i just don't want to be that neurotic anymore. Work out yes, make it my sole life...not so much! Right now and for the past few weeks, I have been following JUDDD rotations (my up days are fabulous....down days bore the daylights out of me!) keeping my food choices as paleo/lc as I can. I am 43, 5'9" and 283 with a large frame....the juddd calculators have my calories at 2448/484. In doing NK do you follow a caloric plan (or just percentages) and do you base that caloric need on what you WANT to weigh or what you currently weigh?

I also suffer from NEVER being hungry...mainly because I eat out of boredom....I work from home, so that is going to have to be a mental battle for me to get over....working on it...but still not there!

I hope this makes sense! Thank you for your help on this journey
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Google 'Pioneer Woman steak bites' Casey. She is a carby person, sadly, but she has some great recipes on her site. She is sort of the modern day Lisa Douglas but she can cook

Oh, I've heard of her before. Its a wonder the woman doesn't weigh 500 pounds.

I have no idea who Lisa Douglas is.

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You are not lying! I bought some macadamia nuts the other day and they were $10 for what will probably only last me less than a week. Although, I find that I like them SO much I cannot stop at 1 oz....when I eat them I end up eating at least 2 - 2 1/2 oz .

Red - *so* close!

I did really good yesterday - kept my carbs low hit my protein right on and fat high, and I"m down another 1lb to 192.8. I know this is probably that induction weightloss effect, but I'm just so happy to see the scale moving again.

Have you guys ever tried the pw steak bites? That is what we had for dinner last night. SO good, and the whole family loves them. We also had broiled asparagus in garlic butter. For lunch, I did something I'd seen on another site and pulled about 3 oz of chicken off the bone, and mixed it with 1 tablespoon of mayo and 1/2 a small avocado. SO yummy and filling!
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haha! yes i am laughing at myself! I have read sooooo much in here today....i have answered my own question! lol forgive my stupid moment! I'm gonna blame it on not enough coffee this morning! lol
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Ok, I KNOW this question is probably in this thread somewhere...or one of them...so please forgive the question. I have done lc in one form or another for YEARS! None have really worked real well for me unless i was working out like a crazy psycho person (think Ozzy in the not so good years!) Well, i just don't want to be that neurotic anymore. Work out yes, make it my sole life...not so much! Right now and for the past few weeks, I have been following JUDDD rotations (my up days are fabulous....down days bore the daylights out of me!) keeping my food choices as paleo/lc as I can. I am 43, 5'9" and 283 with a large frame....the juddd calculators have my calories at 2448/484. In doing NK do you follow a caloric plan (or just percentages) and do you base that caloric need on what you WANT to weigh or what you currently weigh?

I also suffer from NEVER being hungry...mainly because I eat out of boredom....I work from home, so that is going to have to be a mental battle for me to get over....working on it...but still not there!

I hope this makes sense! Thank you for your help on this journey

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I share the working at home thing with you and I know that can be a struggle.
I am always fixing snacks and meals full of things that I can't eat for the Daycare kids. I also used to do a lot of stress eating. Getting all the carbage outta my system helps me an awful lot with that because I have a ton less cravings. I still find myself at the fridge when I get stressed but I usually just clean it out a tad and whip down the counter now.
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Hi Theresa

It helps to think of food as a tool rather than a response to hunger or a pleasure action. I could eat 1500 cals a day and be satiated but that level of calories is too low for my body.

Want an eye opener? Your calorie deficit is grand canyon wide on your DD. At your current weight you are probably expending around 4000 calories a day. So your DD is about a 3500 calorie deficit. Your UD calories are better but still a huge gap of about 1500.
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Oh, I've heard of her before. Its a wonder the woman doesn't weigh 500 pounds.
lol She doesn't eat like that. She fixes man food for her cowboy husband and his brother and the ranch hands. I'm sure she eats with them but she has her own recipes that are a little less Clint Eastwoodesque.

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Ozzy's years have gone from bad to worse
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Because I know nobody's day is complete without seeing it:

B: 2 cups coffee, 3T HWC, 5 slices bacon
L: lettuce, olives, roasted red peppers, feta, 1T olive oil
S: .5 oz walnuts, .5 oz pecans
D: slice chicken enchilada bake
before bed: bouillon w/ 1.5 oz HWC

1420 cals/122g fat/22.2g carbs (16.2 net)/65.1g protein


About to dive headfirst into Income Tax.. have a good night all.
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I didn't know who Lisa Douglas was either. But yes, she makes all kinds of carby stuff...I just happened upon that recipe that another friend pinned and tried it out. Definitely a keeper!

My hubby and I had a serious heart to heart today. When we started low carb together September 2011 he was almost 300lbs at 6' 2". One year later he was at 235 and getting very close to his goal weight. Then he got comfortable and carb creep started and he is back up to 250. I think we had both been suffering from the same thing with not eating enough calories, fat and too much protein. He is just as frustrated as I was so we looked him up on a keto calculator and got everything loaded into a tracker (which he is not great about using, but hopefully he will).

I find when he does well, I do well, so I'm hoping he can get over this hump. We have very different personalities in that I'm a take action gal and I want to tackle a problem, when he is faced with adversity he tends to give up. I'm hoping my pep talk and lots of support will keep him motivated.

We took a leisurely walk to the park just to move around some today. Nice 2 miles and while it was pretty chilly with the wind the kids and dog liked being outside. Cabin fever setting in pretty hard up here in the pacific northwest!
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LOL, disregard that last posting. As is usual with me, I cannot say no to the wine the Sailor bought. Nix the bouillon w/ HWC and replace it with 2 glasses of riesling.. 30.9 g carbs, 24 net. 1496 calories.
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Hi Theresa

It helps to think of food as a tool rather than a response to hunger or a pleasure action. I could eat 1500 cals a day and be satiated but that level of calories is too low for my body.

Want an eye opener? Your calorie deficit is grand canyon wide on your DD. At your current weight you are probably expending around 4000 calories a day. So your DD is about a 3500 calorie deficit. Your UD calories are better but still a huge gap of about 1500.
I had never thought about the gap quite like that! I do lead a pretty sedentary like now days, so it makes sense that I don't kneed all the calories BUT my dd of 500 was just BORING! lol, Now, when I say I am sedentary...it has REALLY gotten bad over the past 2 months that I now work from home....I literally live on my bed. I know this isn't ideal and as soon as I buy some furniture that will change....maybe...lol i love my room! lol

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I didn't know who Lisa Douglas was either. But yes, she makes all kinds of carby stuff...I just happened upon that recipe that another friend pinned and tried it out. Definitely a keeper!

My hubby and I had a serious heart to heart today. When we started low carb together September 2011.....
I KNOW that those conversations can be difficult, but major KUDOS to the strength of ya'lls relationship that you can and do have those chats! And how powerful that you are doing it together.
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Oh, I meant to ask...i know i weigh more...but it seems like the menus i've been reading through on here....doesn't appear to be a lot of actual food...there are times (like today that I feel i have eaten enough food for an army! bleh! Now, don't get me wrong, I will have hot tea w/ a splash of cream later and maybe nibble on some coconut manna/oil mix that i froze for munchies.

My #s for today are
82/12/6
Protein is lower than i want, so i will work on that for tomorrow
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Pibble, I can only speak for myself, but once I firmly enter ketosis, 1300 calories is more than enough food. I fight to get above 1200 calories. Now, today is different as it is my first day back coming off of a cold (and lots of high carb Nyquil) so my appetite hasn't died down yet. I'll eat about 1700 calories, but still end up lighter on the scales by tomorrow morning

Also, if you continue doing JUDDD, have you ever tried doing hardboiled eggs on down days? Three hardboiled eggs in the morning keeps me stuffed until mid-afternoon.
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I think green chicken enchilada casserole is my crowning glory when it comes to homemade meals I make. Its the sailor's favorite meal and I cannot stop at 1 slice.. its like the LCHF version of pringles for me. Or crack. Just had 2 pieces, so no wine, and protein is a little high, but it was worth every bite.
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LOL, disregard that last posting. As is usual with me, I cannot say no to the wine the Sailor bought. Nix the bouillon w/ HWC and replace it with 2 glasses of riesling.. 30.9 g carbs, 24 net. 1496 calories.
MC how do you find your carbs on the wine you drink?
I only find that red wine has like 3 carbs for 3 ozs. That sounds awful low to me?

Of course there is no info on the wine. The makers site does say 3grams of carbs but It doesn't seem right.
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The tracker I use lists amounts of carbs for certain types of wines.. Riesling, sauvignon blanc, etc.

It usually checks out with generic google searches for carb counts with the type of wine.

What kind of wine do you have? Cab sauv is about 3g a glass I think (5 oz).. I prefer whites and from what I've found, sauvignon blanc has a similar carb count.

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Remarks like that are what precipitated the formation of the clubhouse on The Little Rascals.

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The tracker I use lists amounts of carbs for certain types of wines.. Riesling, sauvignon blanc, etc.

It usually checks out with generic google searches for carb counts with the type of wine.

What kind of wine do you have? Cab sauv is about 3g a glass I think (5 oz).. I prefer whites and from what I've found, sauvignon blanc has a similar carb count.
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Ha! That was his own assessment though, not mine, if that makes it any better! It really is all about how he was raised though. He has two very passive parents and they kinda let life happen to them, if you know what I mean. That is his natural tendency, because it is what he grew up with. We are good balance for each other.

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Good luck, how long have you been stalled? I still maintain that my 10 pound loss in 10 days back in December had a lot to do with drinking 3 glasses of white every night

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Good luck, how long have you been stalled? I still maintain that my 10 pound loss in 10 days back in December had a lot to do with drinking 3 glasses of white every night

Love the new pic by the way.
I have been around 159 to 162 since before Christmas, but am losing inches so it isn't technically a stall but ya know us women
But I love a glass now and then

Ahhh thanks
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Oh, I meant to ask...i know i weigh more...but it seems like the menus i've been reading through on here....doesn't appear to be a lot of actual food...there are times (like today that I feel i have eaten enough food for an army! bleh! Now, don't get me wrong, I will have hot tea w/ a splash of cream later and maybe nibble on some coconut manna/oil mix that i froze for munchies.

My #s for today are
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Protein is lower than i want, so i will work on that for tomorrow
It is because the menus are typically proportionately moderate protein and low carb. You figure that 90g of protein is only 10oz of meat the entire day. A couple of oz for breakfast, a few oz for lunch and the four or five for dinner. It ain't a whole lot of food. 30g of cabbage is only about 10 or 12 oz I think. My morning coffee/CO/HWC is about 700 cals.

But, really, if someone is eating 1400 or 1500 calories it isn't very much food.

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I am gonna have to try this one. Your talk about how good it is has me curious.
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Amanda, is your husband a reader? Get him Why We Get Fat by Taubes and Wheat Belly by Dr. Davis.

It is much, much easier to follow LC/NK eating if you have a good working knowledge of the basis for it and WWGF does an excellent job of explaining it in layman terms. Taubes is a journalist, with a science background, and his book reads like a novel. Wheat is evil so Wheat Belly is just good to read. I always thought the gluten-free wheat-free stuff was black helicopter claptrap until I got to about page 50 of that book.
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Its a Linda Sue recipe.. make sure you skimp on protein all day to give you enough room for 2 pieces! I forgot I was making it tonight so 2 pieces clocked me in at 100g protein for the day. Its 38g protein a serving, but so worth it though. Also, I shred the chicken after I cook it instead of cubing it. I like the consistency much better.
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