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Old 02-04-2014, 06:06 AM   #91
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Ok. Today was day 2 of feeling fatigued: my muscles feel worn down like I'm not getting enough calories/ I just feel totally drained. But, I know I'm getting enough calories/ macros.

So I doubled down on the old bay on my eggs this morning, and had my smoked rasher of bacon as always (yum!).
I salted the hell outta my lunch (sloppy joe mix which is just beef, onions and tomato sauce with seasonings, 6 carbs).

I was still feeling drained, so I bit the bullet. Dumped a bunch of table salt from the canteen into my mug and made my lemon and ginger tea. First sip I thought I'd throw up!
Second sip I made myself believe it was chicken soup. Downed the mug.

Maybe this will help some? I'll also salt the hell outta my dinner tonight. I'll look around into getting bullion cubes. I'm hoping this doesn't cause me to retain water, but I need to figure something out for this constantly drained feeling.
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Kwerp, are you adding regular table salt? I recommend using unrefined sea salt, like sel de guerande or celtic sea salt or himalaya salt.... This is not refined, bleached, etc but still contains all the minerals as well, not just sodium.

Also, in bouillon cubes there's lots of chemicals, like MSG and such, as well as fillers sometimes from wheat and soy. Be very careful which ones you get.
I highly recommend making your own broth.
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:51 AM   #93
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Yah, I figured that, but it was a desperate move.
Don't have time this week to make broth, so I'll just have to label check the bullion over here. I'm good at that.
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I did find a nice alternative! I have a jar of green olives in *brine* in the fridge!! Makes for a nice snack AND has quite a bit of sodium.

But I will get around to making some bone broth this weekend.
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Old 02-08-2014, 01:01 AM   #95
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I think I'll bump this thread because it has been a game changer for me!
I started eating green olives (in brine) Wednesday and Thursday, and I add sea salt liberally to all my food (even my bpc!).

I really doubted Volek & Phinney about the body needing sodium when in ketosis. I think I've been adapting a bit this week, and the salt has made ALL the difference. I haven't had any water retention - in fact, I am constantly peeing! It's also helped with other intestinal issues.

The scale and my measurements have been on the downward trend again. I know I'll plateau again soon, but it's been great!
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I still haven't added salt to my water. I keep forgetting.

I also like to know what I'm doing; knowing exactly how much I need and how much I am adding would make it easier. I'm evidently not motivated to track those details.

Drinking less water did not last too long. I'm too well-trained to drink plenty of water. I felt guilty not drinking much.
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:39 AM   #97
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I think I'm getting about 3500mg, which is only 1000mg more than the daily recommendation. I found something salty that I like (olives) and make sure to have that, and liberally add sea salt to my food, and the bacon has salt as well. I only add 4-5 small granules to my bpc. As with everything, YMMV.
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I love Himalayan Rock Salt. This is the only salt in our kitchen. I also drop a few crystals in a 32 oz mason jar of water and let it dissolve overnight. The next day I consume all the water in the mason jar first thing in the morning. I really like getting all the minerals.

I also get Edward & Sons Natural Bouillon Cubes from Whole Foods (no MSG, Gluten Free, Vegan, Organic) and use 1/2 a cube to get 930 mg of extra sodium on the the days I cycle 50+ miles.
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I love Himalayan Rock Salt. This is the only salt in our kitchen. I also drop a few crystals in a 32 oz mason jar of water and let it dissolve overnight. The next day I consume all the water in the mason jar first thing in the morning. I really like getting all the minerals.

I also get Edward & Sons Natural Bouillon Cubes from Whole Foods (no MSG, Gluten Free, Vegan, Organic) and use 1/2 a cube to get 930 mg of extra sodium on the the days I cycle 50+ miles.
The bouillon cubes sound good. Do they have sugar?
How do they taste?
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Never mind.
I looked them up online and it says they don't have sugar!
They also have curry cubes.
I have never heard of this but it does sound good to me……also no sugar.
Can't wait to make a trip to whole foods!
Thanks Fitforever!
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Kwerp, are you adding regular table salt? I recommend using unrefined sea salt, like sel de guerande or celtic sea salt or himalaya salt.... This is not refined, bleached, etc but still contains all the minerals as well, not just sodium.

Also, in bouillon cubes there's lots of chemicals, like MSG and such, as well as fillers sometimes from wheat and soy. Be very careful which ones you get.
I highly recommend making your own broth.
Also table salt has dextrose in it which is sugar.
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I didn't know that about dextrose in table salt.

I found some pink himalayan salt at the farm store in town way way cheaper that at my food coop. It was in the section for farm animals, but doesn't say "for human consumption only." It looks the same to me.
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I have been putting more salt on food than ever before. Not intentionally to up the sodium but just because I feel it NEEDS it more. Weird. Dunno what is going on with my taste buds. When I was a kid, I salted everything liberally but had gotten out of that practice.


Love the Old Bay (great on potatoes. Oh, well) but always put it in tuna salad and crab cakes.
when you lose your taste for salt it may mean your adrenal glands are under stress, I have adrenal issues and I can barely taste straight sea salt licked off my hand....
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I picked up Salt: A World History by Mark Kurlansky at a rummage sale today!

I laughed out loud when I saw it. My friend was filling a large bag with books ($1 for everything that fits) and told me to add it so I did. I haven't had a chance to check it out at all yet but it should be interesting.
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Hi, do we need to increase our salt intake on this diet or just on the induction phase? The reason I asked is, ever since I've increased my salt intake to around 3g to 4g per day, my blood pressure has gone up but my cholesterol level is normal.
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You probably need a higher intake of salt in the whole keto range.

I have a question, is any time of the day better than other to have the intake? I have more appetite for salt in the evenings than early.

Also do you guys gain weight from the extra salt? If you gain weight isn't that a sign you are getting too much?
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I consume just enough salt to keep cramping at bay. I routinely salt my coffee now but don't over salt my food. Salt never makes me retain water. I think that is a very individual thing. Six months or so ago I would take several 1 gram tablets per day. I no longer have to do this so for me my need for sodium seems to be decreasing over time as the weight falls away. I rarely get leg cramps any more, but I keep a jar of salted water by my bedside for that rare occasion.
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Salt doesn't make me retain water either: carbs do! If I end up eating something at a restaurant that has hidden carbs/ grains, I notice not only by my runny nose but also because my rings start pinching my fingers...
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Had my second broth cup today, 4 hours after the first one.

The first one felt so good and I've had craving for more since then.

Perhaps something I really needed? I have been having leg cramps lately.
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Woke up 2 pounds heavier than yesterday and I'm pretty sure it's because of the salt. I think the second cup might have been overdoing it (I make it strong, 1 broth cube per cup).
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Geiri, I have noticed that I do not retain water weight when consuming extra salt (I use sea salt & Himalayan Pink Salt). I do make a point to use more than I used to. But, eating foods that contain a high amount of sodium do tend to cause me to retain water weight. I am not sure why, maybe the source of the sodium...?

Also, it most likely also depends on how much we need individually. I know my sodium levels are on the low side of normal. That is what motivated me to use more salt. If my levels we in the middle or upper range I would most likely use a bit less salt.
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I sometimes get mild diarrhea from the broth cup.

What's the deal?

Maybe not good to have it on empty stomach?
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