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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Stats: 257/144.8/150
WOE: Nutritional Ketosis--Maintenance!
Start Date: August 6, 2001
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MerryKate. I'm so sorry about your dental problems and I'm glad that things are going to be back to normal.I have the free Precision meter that I never opened
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Kristn 50 yo LC since 2001 257/144.8/150 BF% Goal 26%/20%/20% February Nutritional Ketosis...Are you in the zone? Nutritional Ketosis Thread Information and Posts of Interest My Maintenance Journal Original weight 2001--257 Maintaining 165-175 from 2002-March 2012 March 2012 to August 2012--175/150 Made Goal 8/27/12! |
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Lewisville, TX USA
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Judy, I can't remember how tall you are but from your picture at that game, you look absolutely perfect at the weight you are.
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Big Yapper!!!!
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Chatty Cathy
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Toronto
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WOE: N.K.=vlc/hf/moderate protein & organic/pastured
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. The next day I felt really bad and then it took me at least 10 days to fully recover (i.e. back in ketosis). I was surprised it took so long but feel sure this is the case. Anyway, the point for me is that I must really get the meter and start testing because even though I think I have my macros in line at the moment, I know my body is like a moving target and I want to keep the losing trend going.... I am currently 2 lbs. from my stall weight - that is 7.5 lbs lost in about 2 months. And I worry with the challenges the next couple of wks bring with holiday gatherings and such......
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Cathy Original start - Feb. 2000 180/125 "The energy content of food (calories) matters, but it is less important than the metabolic effect of food on our body." Dr. P. Attia "dumping carbohydrates on your broken metabolism is tantamount to doing jumping jacks on two broken legs" -The Spark of Reason “Eat animals. Mostly fat. Enjoy! |
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Cathy, in your list, 3 things stand out, the LC nut bread, did you make it or do you know for sure it was LC, the red wine and the chocolates. Definitely could have thrown you out of ketosis, but, maybe not. That is where the meter is so helpful. I know some of you can handle some wine/alcohol but it doesn't work for all of us and that is maybe why you felt bad the next day, I used to drink a LOT of wine, love it, but since getting diabetes, whenever I drink, although it tastes good at the time, it isn't long before I get a bad headache and I don't feel well. I haven't had any since Sept. 3rd.
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I stopped testing Kristn, cuz the results always made me sad. That combined with not losing got me pretty bummed out and havent been eating much lately and haven't tracked (for 2 or 3 days now) :/
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Chatty Cathy
Join Date: Oct 2002
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I have had wine over the years that I have been low carbing and it doesn't cause me problems when I don't combine all the other 'ingredients'. Makes me realize that I am going to have to be pretty careful in the future - picking and choosing and being careful with amounts of these low carb foods. Any recommendatons of what and where for meter and sticks for a Canadian? |
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![]() Ever had a picture taken of yourself and you think, "Who is that? Can't be me. Oh. It is me." And I've seen horrible pictures of other people where I correctly tell them, "This is a split-second in time. This is not how you normally look. Please don't worry about that one picture. Look at all these other good pictures." That picture of me was a perfect split-second in time. I don't look that good. I was holding 4 things and standing next to big, body-painted boys who were rooting for their high school team to take state! And my avi is only 5 or 6 years old!
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Now you know how well I can rationalize! Cathy I have the Precision Xtra meter and got the strips from a Canadian pharmacy. I'm not allowed to post the actual link, but I started looking at the links on JM's site from his first report Days 1-whatever. I ended up using shopping google and I bought enough strips (40-50) so that the price would be about $2/strip. I think that's right. I just keep thinking the price will eventually go down as they produce more to meet the new demand. Can't wait for that. |
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Kristn and Buffy, was the Precision for glucose the one Dottie said was awful? I think the ketone strips were not the issue - it was the glucose strips. Help me remember? |
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Cathy--the wine always puts me over, but not necessarily because of the carbs in it
As far as I know there are only two meters that do ketone readings, the Precision Xtra and the Nova Max Plus. People are ordering ketone strips for the Precision from Canada because they're cheaper so you may be in luck actually getting them for less where you live. Judy--the Nova is supposedly terrible for glucose, from what I read the Precision is pretty good. Both seem to be good for ketones as far as anyone can tell, but the Nova tends to give lower readings and will give people "lo" readings rather than a number when their ketones are too low. I have the Nova and I've never gotten the "lo" reading myself. I have had a few errors which (for me) seem to be caused by 1. not enough blood (you have to get the drop on the first time, you can't add more if there's not enough), or 2. slightly bending or otherwise not being careful with the strip itself (I now carefully remove them from their wrapper I think if you're starting from scratch and you have access to inexpensive test strips then the Precision is probably the way to go. I started with the Nova and even though it has its issues, I've stuck with it because of the convenience of getting the strips in the US from American Diabetes Wholesale. I keep saying that I might get some strips from Canada for the Precision, but then never actually order them |
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First, Buffy - Congratulations!
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I'm happy to report things are getting back to normal, but my calorie levels are down pretty significantly (well, for me). Two weeks ago I was eating 1800-2100 calories consistently; now I'm around 1400 cals/day. Since I've gotten used to this I'm probably going to stick with it (and hoping it doesn't suppress my metabolism). I rediscovered an old lesson: soup is filling and has its own appetite suppressing properties. I made a great butternut squash soup this week which kept me going for hours. ![]()
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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What a great idea! I was finally able to pick up several cans of chicken broth yesterday so I'll have to try the cream cheese. Do you mean melt it in the broth and stir it up? I love cream cheese on or in just about anything! And thanks, you're very sweet! ![]() |
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I'm definitely striving to take the advice I've seen in this thread so far! I did much better for the past two days: no Greek yogurt or dark chocolate at all. I also took an (unscheduled) rest day from working out yesterday... it's messed up my schedule quite a bit, but I'm forgiving myself because everything is still a work in progress and nothing is set in stone.
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I probably didn't catch everybody's posts to reply to each one individually (sorry!!), but here's a general update while I've got another free minute!
My weight hasn't went back down from the minor spike after the workout earlier this week that made me so sore. I'm not sore anymore, but the scale is sitting defiantly at 145 this morning (even after yesterday's spontaneous rest day). However, my food log confirms that I've made it 2 whole days without any Greek yogurt or dark chocolate - plus, yesterday morning, I resolved to start putting only one Sweet & Low packet in each cup of coffee. AND, I ordered a bottle of the EZ Sweets and 2 flavors of the DaVinci SF syrups from the link on this website. So once those get here, I may be able to say "so long" to Sweet & Low. ![]() About broth/headaches: I started the daily chicken broth on Thursday afternoon and have noticed a difference in my headaches. Interestingly enough, the day in which I desperately strained the broth from a can of regular chicken soup because we had no broth in the house (Friday), I felt worse...mildly headache-y. It didn't taste as good to me, it was thicker (I'm sure because of other ingredients in there), and it produced less than a coffee cup of "broth." Never again! Here's the really interesting thing...I'm hoping someone can chime in and be brutally honest, so I don't celebrate a false victory. On Friday, I had one of my highest amounts of protein in weeks (99g!!). And that night, I started to feel like I might be catching a cold. The next morning (Saturday), my ketones were up a bit to 0.8. I thought - hooray, maybe it's because my carbs were lower on Friday (about 10g total), and that's the key. All day, I experienced mild cold symptoms but did not feel bad. Decided to test ketones at about 2:30 in the afternoon and about fell out of my chair when I saw 2.1. Although it wasn't intentional, I had a much lower protein intake that day - actually, a lower intake of everything. So, I picked up some generic Zi-Cam, Vitamin C, and all that chicken broth. And this morning (Sunday), my ketones were 1.6!! My question is...should I attribute the higher ketones to my "cold," if that's what it is? I still don't feel bad, and the sinus/throat symptoms are very mild. I thought I read somewhere that sickness can elevate ketones. Of course, I'd rather believe it's my diet, and I've finally started a new trend of higher daily ketones that will result in scale movement soon. But if it is due to a cold, does anyone understand why that would even elevate ketones? I'd love to understand the mechanism behind that.Happy Sunday to everybody!! |
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Chatty Cathy
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Lewisville, TX USA
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Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08
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I get both meters ready to go, then prick my finger and get a bead of blood, I first carefully just touch the tip of the Nova strip to the side of the bead, it sucks in the blood, then quickly touch the AccuChek to the bead. I get both tests done with one little bead of blood, but then I have had 4 1/2 years of practice with my diabetes. I see people talk about it talking so much blood, it really does get easier with practice. |
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Big Yapper!!!!
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Glad you ordered the EZsweetz, toss those packets for now. And, your ketone readings make me jealous! ![]() |
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Big Yapper!!!!
Join Date: Mar 2001
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After the holiday madness is over, I will try to get a precision meter so I can compare. I am happy with my Nova b/c it shows me I am in ketosis or not, very rarely not and I am losing, but I like messing with the meters.
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I never thought I would say this, but I love messing with the meters too! I like being my own little science experiment. |
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Good morning everyone!!
Ketones this morning: .7 Days of morning ketone readings over .5: 8 Weight: 145.4 (down 1 lb I love how I feel at 145. I never thought I'd be able to make it to this weight or wear a size 8. I hope I can make it through the next few weeks maintaining this low. But even if I can't I know that I have the tools to get back here once the holidays and my birthday are over . |
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Congratulations!!Figuring out how our own bodies work is a lifelong project, right? I have actually been trying on size 10s. I am aware there is vanity sizing, but I am just positive the size 10s I try on are the smallest 10s. I've only bought a couple of skirts in a 10, but no pants. Later, in about 7 pounds. ![]() |
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