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Old 11-28-2012, 03:35 AM   #1291
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That is terrible news for those folks that are going to be laid off

So, it is good that at least your husband is keeping his job even if it is moving to a different shift

This is your first winter LC? Are you wheat-free too? Between LC, wheat-free and CO I think you'll be surprised at how much healthier the winter will be. Hmmm. Might be good to have some cheapie LouAnn for hand sanitizer for yourself and maybe the other ladies.

I know when I quit wheat and went LC I quit getting sick like I used to.

Thanks Red, I hope LC makes me healthier. Worst part of Daycare is all the bugs they bring in.

It is sad for those losing their jobs. Some of the people there that is the only job they have ever had and have been there 30+ years.
I am sad for them.
My Dh has been there 16 yrs and will not get to stay on daytime so that tells ya how bad it has gotten.
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:42 AM   #1292
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Doing the fat fast for a 2nd day to try to kick myself into ketosis
Best way to speed yourself through induction is super high good LC fat. I'm glad you mentioned it because I had forgotten about it. Eades wrote a blog post about it with regards to induction.
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:43 AM   #1293
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Good morning y'all.. 126.2 this morning.. meh, not too happy about it given I was 127.6 yesterday and figured it was water due to the carb fest the night before.. Will hold off on recording a new official weight until 12/1.

Doing the fat fast for a 2nd day to try to kick myself into ketosis.

B: Coffee w/ 1T HWC
On the way to school: Diet rootbeer w/ 3T heavy whipping cream
L: 2 oz Brie
S: 2 oz Brie
D: 5 slices bacon
S: 1.5 c romaine w/ 1.5 T EVOO

I was that strange child that loved all the weird foods when I was a kid: brussels sprouts, peas, smelly cheeses, etc. Used to LOVE Brie.. but I remember it tasting more buttery than what I had last night. Now it tastes like a mild blue cheese.. not sure I like it. Will keep eating it regardless :-)
You will get there. But your weight is already low.
Probably is just water.
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:48 AM   #1294
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I've seen lots of posts about people getting sick less or not at all once they go LC.

Why?

Well, I think it is because LC is a very low to non-inflammatory way of eating and living. And inflammation is the root of most illness and disease.

That means that how long it takes for you to benefit from being LC is tied to how long it takes for you body to heal itself and reap the benefits of low inflammation.

Hmmm. That makes me wonder if the people that do not see as much of this benefit are primarily the ones stressing their bodies with very low cal eating plans.
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:49 AM   #1295
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Geez my legs are hurting. do I need salt?
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:49 AM   #1296
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I hope so. I have a very small frame (wrist is 4.75 inches!) so it looks like a lot of extra weight on me. Just gotta be patient :-)
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126.2 this morning.. meh, not too happy about it given I was 127.6 yesterday
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Geez my legs are hurting. do I need salt?
Probably. Salt, potassium and magnesium - super important supplements! Drink some pickle juice to relieve those cramps almost instantly.

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heh
I know, I know! Just rereading that makes me seem ridiculous.
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Probably. Salt, potassium and magnesium - super important supplements! Drink some pickle juice to relieve those cramps almost instantly.

Thanks
I will try some broth and see if I can take a supplement. Not sure I can handle it yet
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I hope so. I have a very small frame (wrist is 4.75 inches!) so it looks like a lot of extra weight on me. Just gotta be patient :-)
Wow! You are small framed! Or you are about 6 inches too tall heh.
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I hope so. I have a very small frame (wrist is 4.75 inches!) so it looks like a lot of extra weight on me. Just gotta be patient :-)
OMG that is tiny!
I am 5'1" and my wrist is 6 inches.
WOW!
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Morning all Cheryl sorry about the job with h..well h and me are leaving in hour. So talk to y'all later tonight.
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down a pound after my first true hf/mp day.

1809 cals, 148g fat, 68g protein

today's menu 1864 cals, 161 g fat, 67 g protein
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down a pound after my first true hf/mp day.

1809 cals, 148g fat, 68g protein

today's menu 1864 cals, 161 g fat, 67 g protein
Congrats!!!
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:33 AM   #1308
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Congrats on the loss dazygyrl!

Mizzcase- do you find that you are hungry while doing a fat fast?
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There was a question a couple of days ago on depression and LC WOE. Well, high carbs do "feed" the serotonin (a neurotransmitter that promotes feelings of happiness and satisfaction)in the brain, and LC may, initially reduce serotonin slightly in your brain temporarily. That said, research has not proved that clinically this to be soundly true...as close as they get is it may lower the "happy" slightly. Many health care providers still believe that the brain functions only on carbs....not true. It needs glucose technically; and if your body is conditioned to use sugar for that, then it must change course and find another resource (meaning--you make your own now with combination of protein & fat--our liver can make all the glucose we need). Fat is even-burning/readily sustained, which provides more even temperament/elevated mood and clear thinking--once you have adapted to using fat as your primary source of fuel. There may be a brief period before your fat-burning metabolism is working in high gear--especially in someone coming from high carb diet--what you could be experiencing is “low blood sugar symptoms” which can occur in the early stages of a ketogenic diet, but can be minimalized with temporary supplementation with L-glutamine & or the herb Gymnema. The evidence in literature (basic physiology) shows that the brain/body functions far more efficiently, ages slower; and suffer far less oxidative stress when depending on ketones (and a few free fatty acids) instead of sugar (glucose) for one’s primary source of fuel. In the first weeks, when we could be experiencing "LC flu", your body is detoxing from bad carbs, thus ending the many complex reactions to those...at the same time, the brain is "missing" the feel-good "hits" from those. The body is in conflict. If someone is on medications for depression, would be advisable to discuss dosages with their physicians prior to transitioning to LC or NK--that said, I know most are hestitant to bring this up because of the lack of understanding in the general medical community of LCHP and NK. Knowing what will happen to the body, expecting the side effects can be both positive and negative, but you would have answers to the "why am I feeling like this??" Our bodies are incredibly made "machines"--capable of adapting and changing with the environment and resources given...but we have to give some time to transition when we change the "rules".
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Yeah we always talk about how it's all a front for him!!! It just got to the point where it was an everyday thing for him to talk about shooting people and drugs and death. We have all had enough. We did discuss how it's usually the quiet ones that really act on it but a guy that works real close to him believes that it's a possibility he would act on it.

So after all the "drama" the owner just had a talk with him and that's it!!! It's a pretty big company so I'm not too pleased with how they handled the situation. We'll see if it does any good in the next couple weeks.
I always advise folks to write down these things and keep the notebook at home. If it ever comes to a court action, your notebook with dated notes stands high in the court's opinion. Employment laws have changed in all states, and this is a huge issue now.
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My weight was 158.5 this am. BUT.....
I had another little bug last night and was sick.
ONe of my kiddies moms informed me at pickup yeterday that she had had diarreah the night before. My syptoms were the same as hers.
LUckily it was a fast bug. I just hope the rest of my crew didn't get it.
So I guess I can now. heheehe

I still have sinus issues from the other bug, I hope it's not gonna be one of those winters that I stay sick all the time.
My hubby also came home with news that his workplace will be laying off 55 people. I thought the economy was supposed to be getting better.

So we are in for some big changes around here.
He really wants to go back to school so say a lil prayer he he gets to. Otherwise he will be sent to 2nd or 3rd shift

Lets hope today is a little calmer.
Don't you love it when that happens?? We have many folks sicker than usual this fall so far...odd after the light season last year, very little flu reported after all the hype. We have a few cases reported now, but mostly allergies and tummy bugs are hitting. Bad news on the layoffs, seems to be hitting everywhere. Our lower county (near the Gulf) is experiencing 15% unemployment now, very very sad.
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I've seen lots of posts about people getting sick less or not at all once they go LC.

Why?

Well, I think it is because LC is a very low to non-inflammatory way of eating and living. And inflammation is the root of most illness and disease.

That means that how long it takes for you to benefit from being LC is tied to how long it takes for you body to heal itself and reap the benefits of low inflammation.

Hmmm. That makes me wonder if the people that do not see as much of this benefit are primarily the ones stressing their bodies with very low cal eating plans.
great post Darin! I haven't had a tummy virus (real one) since 1986; flu once in 1993; a cold maybe three years ago. Remember that increasing Vitamin C is very positive during this season...1000mg at each meal...I am currently on 5000mg a day...will reduce to 3000mg in the spring. And Vitamin D3 is essential to immunity, bone, and heart health.
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I always advise folks to write down these things and keep the notebook at home. If it ever comes to a court action, your notebook with dated notes stands high in the court's opinion. Employment laws have changed in all states, and this is a huge issue now.
Boy howdy that is right! Keep a journal with dates and times. It trumps almost anything the other side can say or show.
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I know, I know! Just rereading that makes me seem ridiculous.
I understand...when I first came here I thought I sounded like whining! I started at 127, trying to get to 120....still trying. My wrist are currently 5 and 1/2, but have been as low as 5. I have a friend who is 5"1 and has wrist at 7! So figure. Everyone is very supporting here, even with all the different goals and situations.
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down a pound after my first true hf/mp day.

1809 cals, 148g fat, 68g protein

today's menu 1864 cals, 161 g fat, 67 g protein
That's great!
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Second question, how do you guys up the fat for high protein, lower fat meats like boneless skinless chicken breast or skirt steak?
For skirt steak, I buy it premarinated (usually sun-dried tomato, oil, vinegar and spices) and then saute it in a good amount of coconut oil. The flavours from the marinade mix with the oil and make a yummy sauce.
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That's exciting, dazygyrl!

My scales went up after my first couple days, probably recording a couple different things. Excess calories, CO bloat.

Today they went down one of the two pounds gained. Hope tomorrow shows at least a return to start weight. I'm startng to feel pretty good and yesterday was not compelled to eat more than planned. Hope that means the start of ketoses.
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Congrats on the loss dazygyrl!

Mizzcase- do you find that you are hungry while doing a fat fast?
No, I am not at all hungry. I've read when people do fat fasts they're not at all hungry but they do obsess about food since they are restricting (in a sense). I don't find that I do that either. I just played basketball for an hour, so at 10 AM I ate my 200 calorie serving of brie. Was still hungry so I ate the other 200 calorie serving that I was saving for 1 PM as well. Won't eat again until 6:30 tonight, and I probably won't give food a thought until then either.

My macros yesterday were 100g fat, 6g total carbs (3 net), and 11g protein.. that was more than enough to keep me satiated all day even though it was just over 1000 calories. I also drank some bouillon broth last night as well.

Obviously, fat fasts aren't sustainable long term because of the lack of protein, but I should be able to do this fat fast until Friday night with no problem.

ETA: By the time 6pm rolled around, I wasn't hungry, but my brain was SO FOGGY--was having so much trouble thinking clearly and putting names to things I was thinking in my head. Particularly, I spent around 5 minutes trying to think of the correct term for fried cheese.. finally had to google it to figure out it was "mozzarella sticks".. something I'd have no trouble recalling normally. I wonder if this fog was due to the lack of protein yesterday?

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Thanks Southern girl for all that great info.
My Gf was interested in LC but has Clinical depression and I was a lil worried about seratonin and dopamin. Her dr is not to helpful but her psychatrist will probaly be helpful.

Saft travels Becky

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