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Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by portcop01

Good morning all!!Sounds like all is doing good,missed talking to you guys yesterday,was very busy with guest from Canada but had a great time,,,gained 2 lbs yuk.....if for some reason I eat out I do not lose I gain weight,,,,
I had coffee with hwc and co for breakfast
Lunch chicken leg and thigh with cabbage
Dinner steak,,shrimp,green beans.
They all had a big ice cream cone and I watched

and still gained

unfair.....
But that's ok

I feel good this am...if I had the ice cream...I would feel sick

Well back on track this morning company leaves this morning and I go to work at 3-11 today.
Y'all have a great day!

I have to agree, you watched the ice cream eating and didn't give in and still was up, grossly unfair. Here you go

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by reddarin

Weigh-in this morning ... 193.3!

Hooray! New low! Former low was 193.5 so only .2 difference but heh I'll take it especially after two bumps

Would have swooned and hit my head on the sink counter if I'd have gotten that other .4 to get to the 192s. So, for safety, 193.3 was a good reading and my body wasn't being contrary just looking out for my forehead.

Aside from that, Larry was right about the awful thought of being found dead naked.

Ahhh, but now, I nice thin naked,

Much better than being found dead, naked and fat

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:20 AM

Ok, to add a further note to Red's thought, and I should not even post this, just jump on by if you wish.

One night I was sick, had really really bad bathroom issues, you KWIM. Ran to the loo, passed out, hit my head on the tub, came to on the floor in a real "mess" again, you KWIM. DH jumped out of bed, had heard me hit my head and asked me if he should call 911. I said,
"Oh H*)) no, please God, just let me die here before you ever let anyone see me like this! "

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reddarin

Weigh-in this morning ... 193.3!

Hooray! New low! Former low was 193.5 so only .2 difference but heh I'll take it especially after two bumps

Would have swooned and hit my head on the sink counter if I'd have gotten that other .4 to get to the 192s. So, for safety, 193.3 was a good reading and my body wasn't being contrary just looking out for my forehead.

Aside from that, Larry was right about the awful thought of being found dead naked.

Ok Major!! First of all you were kind of making me mad with your magic scale but now you are just pissing me off

.

Wow, your losses are just fabulous, I am sooo jealous, but so proud of you at the same time. You are doing a great job and keep doing what you are doing, it is working great. Kudos!

reddarin · 10-04-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffy45

Ok, to add a further note to Red's thought, and I should not even post this, just jump on by if you wish.

One night I was sick, had really really bad bathroom issues, you KWIM. Ran to the loo, passed out, hit my head on the tub, came to on the floor in a real "mess" again, you KWIM. DH jumped out of bed, had heard me hit my head and asked me if he should call 911. I said,
"Oh H*)) no, please God, just let me die here before you ever let anyone see me like this! "

reddarin · 10-04-2012, 07:27 AM

Somehow I doubt the EMTs first exclamation would be 'OMG! He is so skinny!'

reddarin · 10-04-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffy45

Ok Major!!

It was the T of CO! I *knew* that would work! Tonight I am saran wrapping the bed and then slathering myself down in it! I'm going for broke to drop the remaining 8.3 pounds to hit goal in the morning!!!

Who's with me????

[Mr. Buffy] Buffy, what the heck are you doing with that CO?!? Wait! Stop! OMG!!!

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:31 AM

Ok, after my new low on Tuesday, I have been up slightly the past 2 days. Then I remembered that the Dr. had changed one of my BP drugs, he had lowered the dose and that is the one that has the diuretic in it. So, that explains that and I was glad to know what it was. Since Red won't give me his "magic" scale, I will have to make do. My BF does seem to be very very slightly inching downward on my tanita scale though and I am not exercising so that is good news, or, that might be due to the fact that I am on less of a diuretic? All a science, all a science.

Oh, cut up my brisket last night and froze several sections of it, put one in the oven overnight on a very low temp and it is filling the house with lovely, fatty meat smells. In a minute I will go and carefully peel off the top layer of crispy fat so that the fat below it gets nice and crispy. I save all that and then chop it into the brisket so I have nice fatty meat when I am done.

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by reddarin

It was the T of CO! I *knew* that would work! Tonight I am saran wrapping the bed and then slathering myself down in it! I'm going for broke to drop the remaining 8.3 pounds to hit goal in the morning!!!

Who's with me????

[Mr. Buffy] Buffy, what the heck are you doing with that CO?!? Wait! Stop! OMG!!!

Well, my first thought is this: Just don't die in your sleep tonight, can you imagine someone finding you, dead in bed, lying soaked in coconut oil on a saran wrapped bed? Somehow, I don't think their first thought would be "oh, yes, he's dieting". Whatcha think?

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:36 AM

Well, Mr. Buffy has always had oily skin as opposed to my dry, dry skin. Maybe that is why he has always been so thin, except the last several years when his belly got big on him, his oil glands must have dried up in that area.

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BABYSTEPS

thanks alot I'm getting it now.This is kinda fun.

to our group Babysteps. It is kinda of fun getting this all figured out. Glad to have you here and hope we can help you out and anxious to hear more from you about your WOE and your journey!

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reddarin

It was the T of CO! I *knew* that would work! Tonight I am saran wrapping the bed and then slathering myself down in it! I'm going for broke to drop the remaining 8.3 pounds to hit goal in the morning!!!

Who's with me????

[Mr. Buffy] Buffy, what the heck are you doing with that CO?!? Wait! Stop! OMG!!!

Ok, I am going to add a T of CO tonight and I will be one mad ole hen if the scale does not show a loss in the AM.

reddarin · 10-04-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffy45

Well, my first thought is this: Just don't die in your sleep tonight, can you imagine someone finding you, dead in bed, lying soaked in coconut oil on a saran wrapped bed? Somehow, I don't think their first thought would be "oh, yes, he's dieting". Whatcha think?

lol

If it was an LCF EMT they'd be like 'OMG!!! He listened to that idiot reddarin!!!'

reddarin · 10-04-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffy45

Ok, after my new low on Tuesday, I have been up slightly the past 2 days.

We'll keep our fingers crossed. I hit that low, bumped up a little the next day then bumped up a little more the next day then dropped to a slightly lower new low today.

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by reddarin

lol

If it was an LCF EMT they'd be like 'OMG!!! He listened to that idiot reddarin!!!'

har har har, but, if you do decide to do that, get a woman, any woman, pay a neighbor woman to be in that bed with you, it will be much easier to explain, not that you would have to explain, I mean, being dead and all.

Ok, we are probably getting wayyyyy to silly this morning!!!

reddarin · 10-04-2012, 07:50 AM

Hmmm.

I'm not real sure how I'd approach that conversation with a random female neighbor. 'Listen, if you see the ambulance here tonight, throw on your robe and run over here...'

[voice from living room] Honey who is at the door and what is he doing with that tub of coconut oil?

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 07:53 AM

The only thing that would make that worthwhile is if you were guaranteed that drop to 185, hmmmmm

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 09:04 AM

Oh dear, just entered my late breakfast/lunch and consumed 796 calories, yikes!!! I bought the Wright's bacon ends and pieces yesterday, saw a serving was 2 oz which is more than a serving of regular bacon and the protein was a couple of grams lower, so wow, I thought, this is great. Cooked it up and it was great, had some nice chunks of ham in it, very good, and my usual 2 fried eggs with a teaspoon of grass fed butter on each. Yummo. But when I saw the calorie count for my breakfast, I looked and the bacon ends and pieces were 300 calories. I am very full, so will probably be fine but doensn't give me much wiggle room for the day. I can have 3 1/2 oz of my brisket for dinner and then my chocolate concoction and root beer float for my snack, that is it for the day to stay right under 1500 calories.

But, on that bacon, it was 300 calories for the 2 oz and 280 of them were from fat

zay · 10-04-2012, 09:22 AM

You two are a riot! Thanks for the entertainment.

shelley · 10-04-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerry

Its caught my appeal because I love frozen smoothies and that does not clump...
I was thinking of making my own bullet proof coffee with butter and mct oil for my first meal next week.

I have the MCT oil and use it in coffee in the AM....1 TBSP and 2 TBSP of 40% HWC. Got the "recipe" from the bullet proof coffee and started it (but with cream and not butter...different recipe I guess). YUM is all I can say. No problems with gastric issues at all for me and I've got a pretty sensitive system.

When I bought the bottle, the nutrition man said "oh, are you doing the HCG diet?" I looked at him funny and said there was no way I would ever eat under 1200 calories a day intentionally. He said the HCG people buy it all the time.

shelley · 10-04-2012, 09:43 AM

Congratulations Major for the new low!! Woo hoo

I gained again. I've been creeping back up up up, and doing "everything right", so it's still frustrating. I sure wish my ketone meter numbers would be higher than .9! The only rising numbers have been glucose and I'm usually 3-4% carbs (veggie/eggs) and that's it.

MCT oil stays liquid. Coconut oil has "MCT" oil in it, but other oils that allow it to solidify...MCT doesn't solidify so I like it.

I am enjoying the visual of Major Darin lathered in coconut oil, but the prize is the saran wrap! OMG that's too funny!

reddarin · 10-04-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shelley

but the prize is the saran wrap! OMG that's too funny!

There are some logistics to work out. For example, how exactly do you prevent shooting off the other side of the wrapped bed upon entry while coated with oil? Will sitting on the potty during the night be fraught with sliding off danger? Is it worth installing non-skid doorknobs in an effort to address the inherent problem of opening a door with greasy hands?

reddarin · 10-04-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by shelley

Congratulations Major for the new low!! Woo hoo

I gained again. I've been creeping back up up up, and doing "everything right", so it's still frustrating. I sure wish my ketone meter numbers would be higher than .9! The only rising numbers have been glucose and I'm usually 3-4% carbs (veggie/eggs) and that's it.

MCT oil stays liquid. Coconut oil has "MCT" oil in it, but other oils that allow it to solidify...MCT doesn't solidify so I like it.

I am enjoying the visual of Major Darin lathered in coconut oil, but the prize is the saran wrap! OMG that's too funny!

Thank you

Do you want me to PM you to tinker with what your situation is with this approach?

reddarin · 10-04-2012, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffy45

Oh dear, just entered my late breakfast/lunch and consumed 796 calories, yikes!!! I bought the Wright's bacon ends and pieces yesterday, saw a serving was 2 oz which is more than a serving of regular bacon and the protein was a couple of grams lower, so wow, I thought, this is great. Cooked it up and it was great, had some nice chunks of ham in it, very good, and my usual 2 fried eggs with a teaspoon of grass fed butter on each. Yummo. But when I saw the calorie count for my breakfast, I looked and the bacon ends and pieces were 300 calories. I am very full, so will probably be fine but doensn't give me much wiggle room for the day. I can have 3 1/2 oz of my brisket for dinner and then my chocolate concoction and root beer float for my snack, that is it for the day to stay right under 1500 calories.

But, on that bacon, it was 300 calories for the 2 oz and 280 of them were from fat

When I do the bacon and eggs breakfast, after or with the 4T CO coffee, that is around 1,000 calories for the day right there.

Choose some almost zero stuff to fill out the rest of your menu. Lettuce is a really good choice. Broccoli too. I love me some broccoli but the fact is it is a great filler for the menu.

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 10:22 AM

Must read. Find this latest article by Jimmy Moore. In it he explains why testing your blood glucose is important to NK. I had noticed that a lot of people were doing that and wondered why the non-diabetics were doing so, this explains it.
My 5 Low-Carb Mistakes And How Nutritional Ketosis Rescued Me From Them

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zay

You two are a riot! Thanks for the entertainment.

Well, as they say, somebody has to do it

Deb34 · 10-04-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerry

Does anyone use mct oil?

I have, it's powerful stuff! I had to use a tsp at a time for quite a while or I had bathroom issues. It's great to give a shot of energy in the morning though. I learned the hard way not to take it in the late afternoon/evening. Was awake the entire night...and could feel the energy zinging through every cell in my body...

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by reddarin

There are some logistics to work out. For example, how exactly do you prevent shooting off the other side of the wrapped bed upon entry while coated with oil? Will sitting on the potty during the night be fraught with sliding off danger? Is it worth installing non-skid doorknobs in an effort to address the inherent problem of opening a door with greasy hands?

ABSOLUTELY, when I hit my head on the tub is from passing out while I was on the potty! Be careful, be very very careful........

Buffy45 · 10-04-2012, 10:26 AM

I do have some lettuce Red, but unlike you, I like dressing on it. But, I will add a few veggies to round it out. I really don't think I am going to get too hungry after that big breakfast.

adillenal · 10-04-2012, 10:36 AM

Well, I have learned something this morning reading this forum. The fractionated coconut oil I have that I use in my goat milk lotion is what is being sold as MCT oil since the lauric acid has been removed. it stays liquid. Not sure though if there is a cosmetic grade and a food grade. Will have to check that out before I start ingesting my FCO.
I need the energy if it works.

10-04-2012, 07:20 AM	#213
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,518 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Ok, to add a further note to Red's thought, and I should not even post this, just jump on by if you wish. One night I was sick, had really really bad bathroom issues, you KWIM. Ran to the loo, passed out, hit my head on the tub, came to on the floor in a real "mess" again, you KWIM. DH jumped out of bed, had heard me hit my head and asked me if he should call 911. I said, "Oh H*)) no, please God, just let me die here before you ever let anyone see me like this! " __________________ Buffy

10-04-2012, 07:31 AM	#218
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,518 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Ok, after my new low on Tuesday, I have been up slightly the past 2 days. Then I remembered that the Dr. had changed one of my BP drugs, he had lowered the dose and that is the one that has the diuretic in it. So, that explains that and I was glad to know what it was. Since Red won't give me his "magic" scale, I will have to make do. My BF does seem to be very very slightly inching downward on my tanita scale though and I am not exercising so that is good news, or, that might be due to the fact that I am on less of a diuretic? All a science, all a science. Oh, cut up my brisket last night and froze several sections of it, put one in the oven overnight on a very low temp and it is filling the house with lovely, fatty meat smells. In a minute I will go and carefully peel off the top layer of crispy fat so that the fat below it gets nice and crispy. I save all that and then chop it into the brisket so I have nice fatty meat when I am done. Last edited by Buffy45; 10-04-2012 at 07:40 AM..

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10-04-2012, 07:27 AM	#216
reddarin Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 5,475 Gallery: reddarin Stats: 6' 47y/o 265/193/170 WOE: NK Start Date: Aug 13, 2011	Somehow I doubt the EMTs first exclamation would be 'OMG! He is so skinny!'

10-04-2012, 07:36 AM	#220
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,518 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Well, Mr. Buffy has always had oily skin as opposed to my dry, dry skin. Maybe that is why he has always been so thin, except the last several years when his belly got big on him, his oil glands must have dried up in that area.

10-04-2012, 07:50 AM	#226
reddarin Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 5,475 Gallery: reddarin Stats: 6' 47y/o 265/193/170 WOE: NK Start Date: Aug 13, 2011	Hmmm. I'm not real sure how I'd approach that conversation with a random female neighbor. 'Listen, if you see the ambulance here tonight, throw on your robe and run over here...' [voice from living room] Honey who is at the door and what is he doing with that tub of coconut oil?

10-04-2012, 07:53 AM	#227
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,518 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	The only thing that would make that worthwhile is if you were guaranteed that drop to 185, hmmmmm

10-04-2012, 09:04 AM	#228
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,518 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Oh dear, just entered my late breakfast/lunch and consumed 796 calories, yikes!!! I bought the Wright's bacon ends and pieces yesterday, saw a serving was 2 oz which is more than a serving of regular bacon and the protein was a couple of grams lower, so wow, I thought, this is great. Cooked it up and it was great, had some nice chunks of ham in it, very good, and my usual 2 fried eggs with a teaspoon of grass fed butter on each. Yummo. But when I saw the calorie count for my breakfast, I looked and the bacon ends and pieces were 300 calories. I am very full, so will probably be fine but doensn't give me much wiggle room for the day. I can have 3 1/2 oz of my brisket for dinner and then my chocolate concoction and root beer float for my snack, that is it for the day to stay right under 1500 calories. But, on that bacon, it was 300 calories for the 2 oz and 280 of them were from fat

10-04-2012, 09:22 AM	#229
zay Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: DET Posts: 3,727 Gallery: zay Stats: 331/289.5/146 WOE: Caloric deficit/adequate protein/moderate carbs	You two are a riot! Thanks for the entertainment.

10-04-2012, 09:43 AM	#231
shelley Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 842 Gallery: shelley	Congratulations Major for the new low!! Woo hoo I gained again. I've been creeping back up up up, and doing "everything right", so it's still frustrating. I sure wish my ketone meter numbers would be higher than .9! The only rising numbers have been glucose and I'm usually 3-4% carbs (veggie/eggs) and that's it. MCT oil stays liquid. Coconut oil has "MCT" oil in it, but other oils that allow it to solidify...MCT doesn't solidify so I like it. I am enjoying the visual of Major Darin lathered in coconut oil, but the prize is the saran wrap! OMG that's too funny!

10-04-2012, 10:22 AM	#235
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,518 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Must read. Find this latest article by Jimmy Moore. In it he explains why testing your blood glucose is important to NK. I had noticed that a lot of people were doing that and wondered why the non-diabetics were doing so, this explains it. My 5 Low-Carb Mistakes And How Nutritional Ketosis Rescued Me From Them

10-04-2012, 10:26 AM	#239
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,518 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	I do have some lettuce Red, but unlike you, I like dressing on it. But, I will add a few veggies to round it out. I really don't think I am going to get too hungry after that big breakfast.

10-04-2012, 10:36 AM	#240
adillenal Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 7,080 Gallery: adillenal	Well, I have learned something this morning reading this forum. The fractionated coconut oil I have that I use in my goat milk lotion is what is being sold as MCT oil since the lauric acid has been removed. it stays liquid. Not sure though if there is a cosmetic grade and a food grade. Will have to check that out before I start ingesting my FCO. I need the energy if it works.