High Fat 80/15/5 - October Version

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by Kerry

I'm still stalking you guys! I'm going to try to start on Monday, i'm going to try to foods log also

Welcome to the party Kerry!

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by Kerry

I'm still stalking you guys! I'm going to try to start on Monday, i'm going to try to foods log also

so glad to have you here to hang out with us! Let us know if we can help you get started in any way.

[reddarin]

Night ya'll. I am a tired old guy. See ya tomorree.

[Buffy45]

Wow Red, and we live just how many miles apart? Can you tell me what perfume I am wearing today? This is a test? What about yesterday? A hint, it was a different one?
Geez, now I am almost afraid to open an bottle of vinegar, don't want to make our Major Darin , although if he were in sick bay, we could push our homework aside and party down

[reddarin]

P.S. I faxed Mr. Buffy and told him to go park behind you while you were messing around at LCF.

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by reddarin

P.S. I faxed Mr. Buffy and told him to go park behind you while you were messing around at LCF.

[SouthernGirl61]

Originally Posted by reddarin

Sprout's carries it for sure. Whole Foods does I'm sure. Health food stores. Amazon for sure. Netrition probably does.

Thanks, I don't have a Sprouts, wish I did...but got Whole Foods!

Congrats on the inches, that's what counts most IMHO!!

Correction to an earlier post...I typed HF for my last ten years, good grief, I was high protein, which I have learned was the reason for the stall, then bouncing after the lovely 50 birthday. Now, I am HF. Tried to edit and realized there must be a time limit on that!!

[SouthernGirl61]

Originally Posted by amlyjo

I did them at the beginning and today would be a great day to update them. I have no doubt about losing inches as I have gone down 2 jean sizes! But it would be great to have that inches lost number in my head too.

Thank you Red and Buffy for the kind words talking away from the edge of the cliff. You are right, if I change too much I won't know what's working. I am going to attempt to keep the carbs extra low, and not go over on the protein, and see what happens.
A little?

Amy, you are doing great looking at the big picture. My first major loss was nearly 50 lbs, way too fast; hit the stall wall for over a year. Moved up 10lbs during that time, then evened out, for five more years. Had two babies during this trial! I found LC and spent 10 years there, losing down to within sniffing my goal. Then just stalled again for 14 months. Then arrived here to lurk between sites and try to understand this all. Never would I imagine eating FAT, would lose weight. My mother taught me well, low to no fat...yuck. I had a great first week, then bounced around a couple weeks, my own fault for not tracking. Then the steriods, and I am drastically up 10 lbs in a week...eating this way, no cheats, but too low protein a few days. So I am choosing CALM. I weight once a week now, to break an addiction to the scalewatching. I feel lighter, maybe I am going down. Nearly threw in the towel and blamed this!! But listening to all the great advice, I too, will remain calm. But inside I am screaming!

[SouthernGirl61]

Originally Posted by reddarin

Really good numbers Buffy

I believe I'll be having tilapia tomorrow for lunch or dinner. Is it good fried in bacon grease or is that a silly question?

Buffy, I fried fish in the remaining bacon grease after cooking bacon and oh my yum...did the same with chicken thighs, even better.

[Kerry]

Does anyone use mct oil?

[zay]

Kerry, MCT is Medium Chain Triglycerides. Coconut oil is a MCT.
There is a lot of evidence that these oils are beneficial. Are you asking specifically about the MCT that links to Netrition on your post? It is made by NOW.

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by SouthernGirl61

Buffy, I fried fish in the remaining bacon grease after cooking bacon and oh my yum...did the same with chicken thighs, even better.

Oh, didn't see this post earlier. I'll bet it is good in bacon grease. The way I fix tilapia is this. For 1 filet, I meltb1 T of butter in a nonstick skillet, sprinkle te butter w paprika, salt and pepper, then lay filet in the butter over lowish to medium hast. Let brown nicely, and repeat seasonings on the top. Turn gently and brown the other side. When done, slide out of pan onto your plate and then scrape all the remaining butter and crispy bits onto your fish. My kids and I love it this way. Mr. Buffy does not like fish so he gets a different meat.

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by SouthernGirl61

Amy, you are doing great looking at the big picture. My first major loss was nearly 50 lbs, way too fast; hit the stall wall for over a year. Moved up 10lbs during that time, then evened out, for five more years. Had two babies during this trial! I found LC and spent 10 years there, losing down to within sniffing my goal. Then just stalled again for 14 months. Then arrived here to lurk between sites and try to understand this all. Never would I imagine eating FAT, would lose weight. My mother taught me well, low to no fat...yuck. I had a great first week, then bounced around a couple weeks, my own fault for not tracking. Then the steriods, and I am drastically up 10 lbs in a week...eating this way, no cheats, but too low protein a few days. So I am choosing CALM. I weight once a week now, to break an addiction to the scalewatching. I feel lighter, maybe I am going down. Nearly threw in the towel and blamed this!! But listening to all the great advice, I too, will remain calm. But inside I am screaming!

Steroids really mess with your weight, get well and then let's see how it goes, and yes, calm is good!

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by Kerry

Does anyone use mct oil?

I don't Kerry so can't chime in here.

[Patlaf]

Originally Posted by Buffy45

This is what I had today, I think I am done, but if needed, might add a little fatty snack later. This is a pretty typical day for me


Snack
Pecans, 5 grams
Cocoa, dry powder, unsweetened, 2 tbsp
Butter, salted, 0.33
2 tbsp Cream Cheese,
Sour Cream, 2 tbsp
Heavy Whipping Cream, 2 tbsp
A&W Root Beer, Diet, 1 serving

My totals today Calories 1,368, Fat 124, carbs 18, protein 61, fiber 10
My day's Values Proteins, 17%, Carbohydrates, 5.1%, Fats, 77.9%

Another delurker delurking. Buffy, did you include your snack in your total calories, etc, and do you not use any sweetener. ? You and the Major are my kind of people. I really like someone who can have 48 ounces of coffee. Ya'll are helping me get rid of my coffeeholic guilt complex.

Pat

[solarpluvia]

I've used MCT oil. One thing to know is that is is fairly notorious for causing gastric distress, especially at the beginning. One tablespoon in a smoothie is enough to cripple me for a whole day. However, I can eat coconut oil without any trouble. MCT oil is more expensive too. Unless you're epileptic and need to have super ketone levels in a major hurry, I don't recommend it over coconut oil.

On the other hand, it does make a lovely and shelf stable massage oil!

End delurk.

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by solarpluvia

I've used MCT oil. One thing to know is that is is fairly notorious for causing gastric distress, especially at the beginning. One tablespoon in a smoothie is enough to cripple me for a whole day. However, I can eat coconut oil without any trouble. MCT oil is more expensive too. Unless you're epileptic and need to have super ketone levels in a major hurry, I don't recommend it over coconut oil.

On the other hand, it does make a lovely and shelf stable massage oil!

End delurk.

Its caught my appeal because I love frozen smoothies and that does not clump...
I was thinking of making my own bullet proof coffee with butter and mct oil for my first meal next week.

[portcop01]

Good morning all!!Sounds like all is doing good,missed talking to you guys yesterday,was very busy with guest from Canada but had a great time,,,gained 2 lbs yuk.....if for some reason I eat out I do not lose I gain weight,,,,
I had coffee with hwc and co for breakfast
Lunch chicken leg and thigh with cabbage
Dinner steak,,shrimp,green beans.
They all had a big ice cream cone and I watched and still gained unfair.....
But that's ok I feel good this am...if I had the ice cream...I would feel sick
Well back on track this morning company leaves this morning and I go to work at 3-11 today.
Y'all have a great day!

[zay]

Hey PC, sounds like you made very good choices! Good for you! Your weight gain is probably just sodium. It will be gone in no time! Have a good day today!

[reddarin]

Weigh-in this morning ... 193.3!

Hooray! New low! Former low was 193.5 so only .2 difference but heh I'll take it especially after two bumps

Would have swooned and hit my head on the sink counter if I'd have gotten that other .4 to get to the 192s. So, for safety, 193.3 was a good reading and my body wasn't being contrary just looking out for my forehead.

Aside from that, Larry was right about the awful thought of being found dead naked.

[reddarin]

Hmmm. Internet connection is a bit flakey this morning for me. I just rebooted the router so maybe that will clear it up.

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by portcop01

Good morning all!!Sounds like all is doing good,missed talking to you guys yesterday,was very busy with guest from Canada but had a great time,,,gained 2 lbs yuk.....if for some reason I eat out I do not lose I gain weight,,,,
I had coffee with hwc and co for breakfast
Lunch chicken leg and thigh with cabbage
Dinner steak,,shrimp,green beans.
They all had a big ice cream cone and I watched and still gained unfair.....
But that's ok I feel good this am...if I had the ice cream...I would feel sick
Well back on track this morning company leaves this morning and I go to work at 3-11 today.
Y'all have a great day!

Good morning PC

Hey, Braums has a very tasty LC ice cream. If I was out in that situation I'd certainly have a 2 scooper of that at Braums.

I wouldn't worry about the 2 pound bump. I just had almost that sort of bump over two days after my old low and I'm back down today.

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by SouthernGirl61

Tried to edit and realized there must be a time limit on that!!

There is a 60 minute time limit on edits.

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by Kerry

Does anyone use mct oil?

I don't. I use refined and organic CO though. But! That is very interesting that MCT stays liquid like normal oils. I wasn't aware of that

[BABYSTEPS]

How do you figure out the percentages? I am eating approx 1500 calories a day
Yesterday ,I had protein-81g
carb 17 g
fat 106g
calories 1360

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by Patlaf

You and the Major are my kind of people

heh

Coffee is very healthy as is caffeine. I'd still drink it even if it were unhealthy though so full disclosure there

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by Kerry

Its caught my appeal because I love frozen smoothies and that does not clump...
I was thinking of making my own bullet proof coffee with butter and mct oil for my first meal next week.

I haven't tried the BPC yet so I'm interested in hearing how you like it Kerry. I'd have to make the CO version of it since I don't have any MCT oil.

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by BABYSTEPS

How do you figure out the percentages? I am eating approx 1500 calories a day
Yesterday ,I had protein-81g
carb 17 g
fat 106g
calories 1360

Fat = 9 cals per gram.
Carb & Pro = 4 cals per gram.

((F grams * 9)/Total Cals)*100 = F%
((P grams * 4)/Total Cals)*100 = P%
((C grams * 4)/Total Cals)*100 = C%

((106*9)/1360)*100 = 70%
((81*4)/1360)*100 = 24%
((17*4)/1360)*100 = 5%

Which does not add up to 100% but that is due to rounding errors on the calorie counter or grams counter not the math for %s. Your grams total is 1346 calories. Don't worry about these sorts of tiny errors. At a really fine granularity it is very much guess work.

[BABYSTEPS]

thanks alot I'm getting it now.This is kinda fun.

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by Patlaf

Another delurker delurking. Buffy, did you include your snack in your total calories, etc, and do you not use any sweetener. ? You and the Major are my kind of people. I really like someone who can have 48 ounces of coffee. Ya'll are helping me get rid of my coffeeholic guilt complex.

Pat

Hi Pat, first of all, quit delurking and stay in here where we can see you, we just don't know what kind of mischief you might be getting in to while out lurking around! Behave

Yes, the snack was included in my daily total. And, I do use sweetfreez but don't add it as it is 0-0-0. That snack was actually a dessert I had made. The nuts and butter were in the bottom of the bowl with some sweetener. Then I took the 2 oz of cc, the 2 T of sour cream, the heaping T of cocoa, added a t of vanilla and some sweetfrez and mixed it all up until it was thick and creamy, soften your CC first. Put it over the nut crust, then added a nice dollop of whipped cream. It is all added together in the tracking program I use, but when I add it to my meal/snack, it breaks it back down.

Gotta have my coffee, that is my first thought when I wake up, yayyy, I get to go have coffee!