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Hello. I've been thoroughly enjoying and have been inspired by these threads of late on NK, 80/15/5.
I see the mayo subject come up now and then and because of the recommendation of staying away from Soy based mayo, I made some of my own over the weekend. Sadly, I only had Olive Oil (and not the extra light). Umm... yuck. Heavy olive oil flavored mayo is not good. I will say, though, that it made up ridiculously easy with my stick blender. I had one problem at first... I was following a egg yolk only recipe... I stick blended until my blender was hot and it did nothing. Decided to add in one of the egg whites and within mere seconds I had mayo, bad tasting mayo, but mayo nonetheless. So I'm a bit confused on the pufas mufas, O6, O3, O9 fats, etc. In my desire to make a more bland mayo, I ordered Rice Bran oil online and now wonder if that was a mistake. Seems it has the dreaded pufas, too. Perhaps it's okay in lesser amounts. Anyone knowledgeable on the Rice Bran Oil... I imagine it's a better choice than soybean oil, but perhaps not the best choice? |
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So....dropping again. I used to do Atkins induction/Protein Power and had tons of protein (and lots of weight gain!) Time to re-do my menus! Thank you. |
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Blabbermouth!!!
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From what I've read, I think the thing to shoot for is an oil that contains as small a percentage of PUFAs as possible. When I did a side by side comparison of Soy Oil and Safflower (I think) the percentages were almost completely reverse for sat fat and poly fat. Another post I read recently, from a guy that makes his own all the time, that guy said that you have to have some PUFAs (because of their long chain nature) for emulsifying the mixture. So as long as the rice bran oil is, say, 30% or less PUFAs then it is probably as good as it gets for approaching store bought texture (I'm guessing). By the way, I just watched a youtube of G. Ramsey doing a spot for an stick blender and he was making mayo with it. He noted that using the whole egg gives the mayo a better texture and appearance and lightness. Hope that helps |
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Thanks for the info Southerngirl61. My gut tells me that LC/HF is still the way to go even for a bypass patient but I sure don't want to do anything wrong after all he has been through. I did throw away the prescription for statins they gave him - he is on lopressor and Coumadin and that is enough!
Hey Buffy I have diabetes and very high cholesterol too but I declined the statins my Dr wanted. Feel there is no benefit there and suspect I have large fluffy cholesterol although my Dr did not want to order that more refined test. I do take 2 fish oil giant pills daily. Wow this thread moves fast. I am going to hang around if you all don't mind. I am in maintenance weight wise at 115 lbs but watch diet carefully for my diabetes, health, and weight maintenance. I use 50gms of protein, 30 gms of CHO, and lots of fats!
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First...the "fluffy" test you are all looking for is called a VAP test. It tells you the size of the particles in cholesterol.
Buffy...your test looks great to me! I'm usually 250-325 in total cholesterol, but my HDL is about 100. My risk ratio is low. I last had a VAP test about 15 years ago when I was doing the "usual" high carb/low to nonfat eating and lots of fruits and rice and whole grains. My VAP scores was the worst they could be....so I'm really anxious to do the test at my next physical if not before. I might just order my own test, but I would prefer to wait 6 months, and I didn't start the NK eating until the first of September. Major Darin...love your new title! And Yes, the stick blender "whole egg" mayo is so easy to make. I tried Kristn's recipe with the coconut oil and olive oil and it was like a solid "rock" in the refrig, so I'm going to make the easy one with whole eggs and extra light virgin olive oil next time...I do believe it's the Gordon Ramsey one that is on youtube. Easy and yummy! And I'm mean really yummy off a spoon yummy! I was hooked on Best Foods/Hellmans and once I made this homemade one, I will never go back. |
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Ok, Hellman's is my brand of mayo too, love that stuff. You really think the homemade one with extra light VOO is that good? It is easy to make, thought I had used that oil last time but maybe not. What brand of Xtra lite VOO did you use? I am out of eggs ![]() so must go to the store today and can't try any mayo until I restock on eggs. Wish that Olive Oil store was closer and I would run over there and ask their recommendation on best tasting oil for mayo. ![]()
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And, I did take my ketone meter with me which did reassure me each AM that I was doing good. I do enjoy my diet cokes and that as well is kind of a reward I use, so I always worry when you order from a place that fixes fountain drinks if you are truly getting diet and I just can't be sure I can tell the difference anymore. Once I heard about some sticks that you could carry along to test, has anyone heard or know what those are? I usually stress to the waiter that I have diabetes so please do not mess up my order but you never know. I had a waitress once that I questioned, she said oh yes, that is diet, then I said, well I have to ask b/c of my diabetes. She then took it back and said she would go pour me a new one, just in case ![]() |
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Reading the thread over on the main board about carob, has anyone used that? What is the benefit over cocoa powder?
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So, really, *all* of the ways to calculate it are right. Which way resulting in which number that works for you? *That* is the mystery and that is why there is no one formula like a simple algebra equation. And, very importantly, I think the best way to proceed is to calculate your requirement and start high then work your way down but not below the floor of the lowest formula. |
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I have to tell you that when I am out with friends, or meeting my 3 sisters for a gathering (like Buffy did), it seems to really cement the ideas of my eating very firmly. I have found that on those occasions, I usually eat better, eat less, and end us losing weight to just "prove to them" (or myself?) that I am determined to do this way of eating. They all think I'm a quack..but they are all overweight and think eating less fat and walking 1/2 mile is a big deal. I really have to bite my tongue with friends about this too.
Darin...Ooops...Major Darin.....the reason I am happy that you calculated the protein grams the way you did is because I used to be so high...and then for the month of September I was so much lower than normal (around 60) and yet didn't see the huge drops in weight that others did, and also have not seen the ketone numbers be in the range most are in (and Phinney/Volek say is desirable). So, to me, your calculations might be the ticket!! And to think that I was "low" yesterday and somewhat concerned about meeting my minimum. I don't want to lose lean body mass!!! But I was still higher than the low end, so I'm sort of excited for this month to see what happens. Re: carob. I used to use that for cooking years and years ago (the chips) as it was the "healthy alternative" to chocolate. But the reality is that unless you are super sensitive to cocoa/chocolate, you don't want carob. It doesn't taste like chocolate and is also lower in fat and higher in carbs/sugars than cocoa. So, sweet Buffy, stick with your chocolate!!!! No "benefit" unless you can't tolerate caffeine. |
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When I started looking around at protein recommendations, I was stunned at how low the USRDA recommended amounts are. Something like 35g for women and 45 for men! Wow!
I assume that they arrive at those very low levels based on their 'skinny as a stick pole' weight tables. The formula that they use in the NK thread makes a lot of sense but I wonder at it because it results in fairly high protein requirements. I wonder if one of the reasons for that is that it has an exercise/active person bias? As in, you are exercising regularly and need extra protein because of it. So far, though, I haven't seen an LC doc endorse that idea (more protein for more workout) but I am only about 1/3 of the way through the Art & Science book and I haven't read, nor own, the Performance book. Really, very interesting stuff. |
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#108 |
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So Reddarin was kind enough to run my numbers for my ratios over the weekend. i'm posting here so everybody can see where I'm starting.
Protein range: 59-72 Daily Goals ---------- Protein: 72 Fat: 179 Carbs: 36 79/14/7 Total calories: 2041 I'm also doing a leptin reset(requires 50 gm protein at breakfast only)...I have no problem having my protein like this in am, it kills hunger for me right until dinner time and then I can have something very small for dinner and of course no snacking or calories between meals and after 6:30 pm. 4 hours required without eating before bed and sleep in super darkness as early as possible. 10-10:30 Will I have issues with the success of the 80/15/5 way if I break up my macros like this? Reddarin heard an interview with this info: Dr. Phinney said that a macro of 35% protein would probably stall most people.So when you are tinkering with your menu try to avoid x/34+/x. An off day on macro percentages won't matter but consistently getting in the 30%s on protein probably will matter. And, of course, carbs as low as possible. If my protein macro for breakfast is 50 gm for breakfast with this screw me up? Also, how often does one need to recaculate the macros as the fat melts away? Every couple of weeks? a few months? Last edited by Deb34; 10-02-2012 at 12:45 PM.. Reason: new question |
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Also, some do well on IF and only having one meal a day. I can't do that, but it doesn't mean it won't work for you. Keep good notes, log everything you put in your mouth (I use ******), and you will have your answers. |
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Very interesting about the low numbers for the USDA on protein grams! But you are so right...back then (i'm older so I can say that), we ate very little. I was rail thin and never hungry. Makes me feel better about dropping the protein grams. I'll stick with the Tanita scale to monitor my lean/fat pounds and that will help me to know how I'm doing too.
I forgot to congratulate you, Major, on your new weight! Congratulations!!!! I'm glad you tried on more companies of jeans than just Wrangler....they change styles, and cuts all the time, so you do need to check them out on your body. So, you're lucky to be able to wear Levis! They are very nicely made (but don't fit my body...I'm a LEE jeans woman!) Also, what women notice, is that you can try on one pair, and then get another in the exact same color, cut, company, size, label, and they won't fit the same! I usually find I take in 3 pairs of the same in order to choose the ones that I like best. But now I"m just trying to get back into my "old" stuff so no shopping for me! |
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Essentially, never. Your protein requirements don't really change because they are based on lean body mass which is a factor of height not age, weight or activity level (with a nod towards a strenuous exercise regimen which may benefit from increased protein). ... and Yes: Yes, because you have a range of protein and if you start at the upper end and work your way down to the level where you lose weight your macros are fairly fluid. You can continue downward, level off, or increase protein, all of which affect fat intake ratios to maintain Phinney's ideal of 65-85% fat macro for nutritional ketosis. Inversely, starting at the bare minimum to lose weight and then adding protein to maintain or gain affects your fat ratio similarly. Confused? And, remember, caloric demands change with weight. So, when I was 265 my BMR was higher than my current weight. So, losing weight will affect your macros over time. Even forcing you to drop lower in your fat ratio although you should never have to go below 65% because there is a wide variety of fatty protein to allow you to keep both numbers in the right range. |
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Further reading on Rice Bran Oil, comparing it to others, it appears its actually a very healthy oil. Found a video by Dr. Oz promoting it as a weight loss oil, too Again, thanks, and way to go everyone with your successes. ![]() |
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I have macadamia nut oil, I wonder if that will work. Off to Wikipedia to check the ratios...
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thanks Red, i'm relieved that my brekky won't throw me off. I found an article I had saved about Egg nutrition that is very interesting. I'll quote part of it here: it could help if people are going overboard with egg protein. Just boil your eggs and you can discard the extra whites, I do that because eggs raise my blood insulin if I over do the whites.
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Well you guys been busy today!work was good,,
Red got something to check out for me..I might have a enlarged heart ..had a X-ray today,not sure but half of the chest was white and other side was dark.my daughter said it could be a enlarge heart?what you think? |
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![]() When do you get to talk to the doc about it PC? |
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Log and numbers for tonight!
Calories: 2,003 Fat: 179 Pro: 76 Car: 27 79/16/5 Breakfast: CO & coffee and HWC today. Which really screwed up my day for calories. Lunch: HWC float, chicken bouillon. Snack: Pickles. Dinner: Chicken, bacon, broccoli, jalapenos. Dinner!! Whew!! Man alive that was good eatin'! I cooked the bacon, took it out and threw the jalapenos in to cook in the bacon grease, then put the chicken, bacon and broccoli in and sauteed it for a little while. Dang that was good. Dang I was high calories lol. That is why I say the HWC messed me up as bad as I wanted to have it in my coffee this morning. I had to have the bacon and chicken to get my protein up so. Just chicken would have kept the calories down a bit but then my fat macro would have been blown. I don't expect to see downward movement on the scale tomorrow but dinner sure was good anyway |
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