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Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 07:38 AM

I read a simple body frame test is to circle your wrist with your other hand, and if your middle finger and thumb don't touch, you are large frame, if they do, you are medium and if they overlap you are small frame. I barely fit into medium and if I lose to my normal weight, I am sure that is where I fall. Right now people think or refer to me as large frame but they are being kind me thinks

dianajlane · 10-12-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reddarin
Be leary of lowering protein to achieve a particular fat macro %. Protein protects your lean body mass. Especially if you are not doing light resistance exercises.

Phinney defines the NK range for fat% as 65-85. So experiment with <75% fat before sacrificing protein.

Also, if protein is getting in the way you might be able to keep protein up and get fat up by avoiding lean protein sources in favor of fatty protein. This works pretty good if your calorie range isn't too low.

Or chose very lean protein, like shrimp, and then eat good non-PUFA fats to %. This works really well if your calorie range is moderate to low. You can google for 'lean protein sources' and get some good hits on low cal protein.

Hi Darrin,

Thanks for the input.

When I mentioned lowering protein, I meant limiting myself to the lower end of the range for my height. I don't want to lose muscle mass, and I know I need to add some exercise so my body will know that it shouldn't start getting into my muscles. Congrats on your losses. Way to go!

Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 07:47 AM

Ok, my gang, I have a tale of woe this morning! And it is not Way Of Eating!!

My BK test this moring read 0.2!!! It has not been that low since I very first got my meter at about 1 1/2 weeks into LC. I was shocked and sad! And, I can't for the life of me figure out what happened.

Yesterday I had tilapia, fried in ghee, no breading of course. 2 T of Kefir cheese, 1 Carb in that. 4 oz of boiled chicken, 1 cup of the broth off of said chicken. 1 1/2 slice of Barbo's onion rye bread that I made myself so know every ingredient that went into it, the total carbs on that was 3. Also, some butter and HWC and 2 diet root beers. I had one diet root beer at DD's house and looked to make sure it was diet, I have texted her to double check that, but I did look. What on earth pulled me out of my usual over 1 reading? My BG was 96 this morning which is 10-15 points higher than usual too.

I was around my DGS whom I love dearly

, would I have ingested enough sweetness from him to raise that?

Just joking of course.

I don't know, I am confused. The 2 new things I ate were the kefir cheese and the bread which I made, so I will try those 2 things again, separately and see if I react to either of them again, but I am stumped.

Weight remains at a steady, very stubborn 198. Oh, my calories were lower than I had posted last night, I looked at my log to report what I had eaten to you guys and realized I had entered a couple of things twice. So it was in the 1300-1400 range.

reddarin · 10-12-2012, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffy45

Ok, my gang, I have a tale of woe this morning! And it is not Way Of Eating!!

My BK test this moring read 0.2!!! It has not been that low since I very first got my meter at about 1 1/2 weeks into LC. I was shocked and sad! And, I can't for the life of me figure out what happened.

Yesterday I had tilapia, fried in ghee, no breading of course. 2 T of Kefir cheese, 1 Carb in that. 4 oz of boiled chicken, 1 cup of the broth off of said chicken. 1 1/2 slice of Barbo's onion rye bread that I made myself so know every ingredient that went into it, the total carbs on that was 3. Also, some butter and HWC and 2 diet root beers. I had one diet root beer at DD's house and looked to make sure it was diet, I have texted her to double check that, but I did look. What on earth pulled me out of my usual over 1 reading? My BG was 96 this morning which is 10-15 points higher than usual too.

I was around my DGS whom I love dearly

, would I have ingested enough sweetness from him to raise that?

Just joking of course.

I don't know, I am confused. The 2 new things I ate were the kefir cheese and the bread which I made, so I will try those 2 things again, separately and see if I react to either of them again, but I am stumped.

Weight remains at a steady, very stubborn 198. Oh, my calories were lower than I had posted last night, I looked at my log to report what I had eaten to you guys and realized I had entered a couple of things twice. So it was in the 1300-1400 range.

The bread would be my guess. Grains R Bad.

Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 07:52 AM

No grains Red. It contained unblanched almond flour, salt, caraway seeds, onion powder, water, oil, eggs and 1 T dark molasses, baking soda and vinegar, made 10 servings. I have avoided grains as far as I know.

reddarin · 10-12-2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffy45

No grains Red. It contained unblanched almond flour, salt, caraway seeds, onion powder, water, oil, eggs and 1 T dark molasses, baking soda and vinegar, made 10 servings. I have avoided grains as far as I know.

Hmmmm.

Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 08:00 AM

Even pondered whether I had taken any different meds, nope, don't recall anything different. I had blood drawn yesterday at my lab appt., maybe they sucked all of my ketosis out?

reddarin · 10-12-2012, 08:01 AM

Stress maybe?

Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 08:03 AM

Nope, no stress yesterday, actually a good day. I am stumped, we will see what today and testing tomorrow morning brings.....

zay · 10-12-2012, 08:07 AM

Woohoo Red! Down another pound!!

BG - I measured this morning with a new pricker thing...can't remember the name and clean hands. First reading on my middle finger 108, second reading immediately after 94.

I'm glad that thing was free cause I don't find much value in it.

by the way...I believe I read someone was looking for this info
for fasting BG
normal BG - under 99
prediabetic - 100-125
diabetic - 126 or above

This is not the only determination of Diabetes diagnosis. There are other measures taken into consideration

google.... National Diabetes Information
Clearinghouse (NDIC) ...you'll find thorough, yet brief info there

Patlaf · 10-12-2012, 08:45 AM

Buffy, I have absolutely no wisdom to impart re BG but I have lots of

for you. Hope this was just a temporary glitch and that tomorrow everything will be back to normal.

Pat

Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patlaf

Buffy, I have absolutely no wisdom to impart re BG but I have lots of

for you. Hope this was just a temporary glitch and that tomorrow everything will be back to normal.

Pat

Ahhh, you are a sweetheart. Funny thing, I am not too concerned. If it keeps up, then I will worry of course, now mostly just

Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 08:59 AM

Call off the emergency people!! Just retested my BK and it reads 1.1. About ready to toss the Nova meter and look into the precision one. Have ruined several strips with error reading, etc.

Back down squad, back down.

reddarin · 10-12-2012, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffy45

Call off the emergency people!! Just retested my BK and it reads 1.1. About ready to toss the Nova meter and look into the precision one. Have ruined several strips with error reading, etc.

Back down squad, back down.

Whew! That's great

portcop01 · 10-12-2012, 09:25 AM

I'm not hungry today at all!!do you think I have to eat I did have 2 eggs yukkkk.coffee with hwc and co .i feel if I eat I will be sick....

reddarin · 10-12-2012, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by portcop01

I'm not hungry today at all!!do you think I have to eat I did have 2 eggs yukkkk.coffee with hwc and co .i feel if I eat I will be sick....

Don't eat

So far my experience has been that down days like that are normal when you are NK. I've had several 800ish calorie days.

reddarin · 10-12-2012, 09:33 AM

In retrospect, if you feel the day is going in that direction then concentrate on getting your protein in and don't worry about fat%.

Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 10:01 AM

Need quick help. How do I link to our thread here? I have done it but have forgotten, I have another victim, errr, I mean have someone who needs help figuring their rations and know Red can help her.

Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by portcop01

I'm not hungry today at all!!do you think I have to eat I did have 2 eggs yukkkk.coffee with hwc and co .i feel if I eat I will be sick....

I would not force it PC. One down day will not hurt and helps make up for an up day. No different than being sick, or having a really sore throat, etc.

Or, just read Jimmy Moore's latest update, he sometimes fasts for up to 24 hours it seems.

shelley · 10-12-2012, 10:08 AM

Good morning all!!!

Major Red...you are melting away before our eyes!! Amazing and oh so inspirational! Congratulations. FYI....Mr. Shelley is 6'2" tall, large boned and he is 215#. He does not look fat. H'es very fit. When we lived in India and had no grocery stores, he got down to 185 and he looked emaciated....very unhealthy looking. I'm sure at 6' you look fabulous in the 180's! If you find a cure for the belly fat, let us know...I'd like it too!

Dianaj: Great job on the macros you posted. You definitely "have it" and will do great.

PC....thanks for telling me to not trust the meters...I have 3 (one free that just arrived, and the 2 I bought...All of them are NovaMax Plus!)

SouthernGirl....very interesting to read what you wrote about reimbursement for medical and all that we "hear" and is "disputed" by various "pundits" trying to get votes this way or that (NOT going into politics here!!!!). It's a sad state of affairs, but I had hand surgery in Jan. and the doc requested that I bring in my insurance after it was all said and done as he had no idea what got paid or how much he got paid. He said that he'd never asked that of a patient before, but we really got along well....he has a sick sense of humor and Red and he would get along beautifully!!!!!....anyway, he called in his office manager when I came in with the paperwork. I was in his privately built medical facility for surgeries that he shares with other docs and it's gorgeous. The surgery was about an hour and several assistants were used. He billed about $12,500 I believe and he got paid $850 for the facility, his services, the anesthesiologist and the nurses too. Pretty sad. So, I believe all that you wrote, but it's good to see it in print from a different "aspect". Sad.

Buffy....thanks so much for your comments about B/G and Ha1C and everything you wrote. I'm looking back at my fasting glucose blood tests from annual physicals from 1985 to present (that's my birthday present to myself every year since 1985). I was in the 70's from 1985 to 1996...then I went into the 80's until 2003 when I went into the 90's. I loved my fruit and cottage cheese and was SKINNY (98-110# at nearly 5' 6"). I was not a meat eater, so very low protein other than the cottage cheese and eggs.

IN 2006 I hit 101 and was shocked..doc said it was fine. Then back to 98, 99 and 95 for the next few years. (until 2010)

Then I got a 105 and a 107....went to about 5 docs during that time for hormonal issues and they all thought my glucose was fine. This year the doc said that she thought 107 was fine (Ha1C was 5.8, range of 4-6) and that she wasn't going to even address it until it got to 120. I thought that was horrible and I won't go back to her. Why wait? Nobody ever asked about my eating and that's when I got really strict with LC by doing research. Then I found Kristn's thread on NK in August and started reading and buying books, etc. If the meter is faulty (all of them!!!), then that's fine, but the Ha1C is over a 3 month average and it's NOT fine (as Buffy said). But where I live there are no docs that I can go to. They are all idiots (sorry). I've been self diagnosing for about 3 years and am finally healthy with my endocrine system with the help of a wonderful patient advocate.....but I'm not happy with the glucose and haven't been for over a year. It scares me. No diabetes anywhere in my family. I'm the ONLY one that is low carb...everyone else parties, drinks, eats pastries, sugars, wheat, etc and they have glucose in the 80's. I feel like Nancy Kerrigan with the "WHY ME"!?!?!

On the weight...today I'm up yet again.... Yesterday went up .8 and today up .2 for a total 1# gain in just a couple days. Changes? Only lowering my calories below 1400-1600 to 1200-1300. Go figure.

I'm not giving up or giving in. I'm just reporting my results. I'm not even depressed...just "frustrated" and not understanding. And I'm not going to test for anything for another week......measurements will be done on Sunday morning as usual so we'll see. I'm wearing my 10 Lee jeans today and they are VERY comfy. When I started this, I couldn't even get them zipped!!! :-) So, I"m not dissatisfied with the results, just sort of "scared" with the glucose readings. I would never have known this was an issue without the NK readings and using the "glucose strips" that came with the meter! Then ordering 150 more on ebay! ha ha

OK...sorry this is so darned long. Everyone is doing great! I want to do great too!!!!

reddarin · 10-12-2012, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffy45

Need quick help. How do I link to our thread here? I have done it but have forgotten, I have another victim, errr, I mean have someone who needs help figuring their rations and know Red can help her.

Up at the top of the thread there is a Link Back menu option. Click it then click the LinkBack URL item and it will popup a URL you can copy. Then paste that to the other thread. This will link to the first page of the thread.

zay · 10-12-2012, 10:10 AM

Buffy, copy and paste the address up in the browser

like this...
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ot...l#post16010189

Buffy45 · 10-12-2012, 10:21 AM

Thanks Zay, one of the many things I now forget on a daily basis!

portcop01 · 10-12-2012, 10:23 AM

You no when I lower my cals to low I don't do good,
Red do you eat pork rines a lot?

reddarin · 10-12-2012, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by portcop01

You no when I lower my cals to low I don't do good,
Red do you eat pork rines a lot?

Well it boils down to the question of do you force yourself to eat or not.

It is a fuzzy area though. I've eaten dinner a few times when I wasn't really hungry but I wanted the protein and my macros to be right. *And* I was concerned that if my last meal of the day was around noon then I'd binge late in the evening.

So, it is a little bit of a balancing act.

Now, lurkers and everyone, hear this loud and clear! Proactive eating - eating because you *might* be hungry later or you *think* you will be hungry later is a terrible awful thing. Don't do it!

What we are talking about in this case, and what I am describing, is a very calorie controlled approach and a strict view on minimum protein grams intake. Eating in advance under any other circumstance is almost always a disaster. So, tread carefully.

Yes, I do eat pork rinds

They are super high protein and very high fat so managing them can be a chore but there have been many days where 2 to 4 oz of rinds made up the majority of my fat and protein for the day.

=)

dianajlane · 10-12-2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelley

Dianaj: Great job on the macros you posted. You definitely "have it" and will do great.

Thanks Shelley

It's wonderful to have the support of other like-minded folk.

Even my DH is trying to tell me that it shouldn't be a problem for us to take a break and be less strict occasionally.
But it IS a problem FOR ME (and for him as well).
I have been stuck at an unhealthy weight for many years because of it.
I don't have to like it, but that's my reality.

I hope to see Onederland before the end of the year!

SouthernGirl61 · 10-12-2012, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffy45

No grains Red. It contained unblanched almond flour, salt, caraway seeds, onion powder, water, oil, eggs and 1 T dark molasses, baking soda and vinegar, made 10 servings. I have avoided grains as far as I know.

I love a mystery...I know for ME, molasses and honey will hit me hard. it processes similar to sugar.

portcop01 · 10-12-2012, 10:57 AM

Thanks red I think to day most of my protein will come from pork rinds!

Patlaf · 10-12-2012, 10:58 AM

Shelley, where did you live in India? DH and I were married in Kashmir, lived there for two stints of six months and two years in Delhi. Had no weight problems at all there. Weight went way up in Switzerland with crusty french bread, lots of butter, cheese, chocolate and wine none of which, as you know, were available in India.

Pat

drjlocarb · 10-12-2012, 11:07 AM

this little problem is what caused me to be hanging off the wagon since Jan. I tested for a week and every morning my bg levels were 120-130. During the day it would slowly drop to 90 even after meals. I bought an A1c meter and it was 5.6. I re-tested 4 months later and it was down to 4.9. During that 4 months(hanging off the wagon) my bg levels were 78-99 every day. This scared me enough to think I was causing damage even with a daily carb level of 10-15/day.

I read those blogs and I was not satisfied that I wasn't doing damage with levels in the 120's.

This is a post from June^^^^.

What I mean by "hanging off the wagon" is that I was NOT eating a ketogenic diet during that time. My carb levels were maybe 100g instead of 10-15g, with some days being 50g, or 100g, and a few times 15g -25g.

I am try to say I am not diabetic. If I don't eat LC, my b/g levels are normal...BUT, I did gain weight during that time. I had to go back to vlc to halt the weight gain.

Shelly, the only way to know if you are diabetic is to go high carb and see what your numbers will look like. The numbers posted by the Diabetic Assoc. do not apply to me on a ketogenic LC diet. It may be the same for you.

10-12-2012, 07:47 AM	#963
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,548 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Ok, my gang, I have a tale of woe this morning! And it is not Way Of Eating!! My BK test this moring read 0.2!!! It has not been that low since I very first got my meter at about 1 1/2 weeks into LC. I was shocked and sad! And, I can't for the life of me figure out what happened. Yesterday I had tilapia, fried in ghee, no breading of course. 2 T of Kefir cheese, 1 Carb in that. 4 oz of boiled chicken, 1 cup of the broth off of said chicken. 1 1/2 slice of Barbo's onion rye bread that I made myself so know every ingredient that went into it, the total carbs on that was 3. Also, some butter and HWC and 2 diet root beers. I had one diet root beer at DD's house and looked to make sure it was diet, I have texted her to double check that, but I did look. What on earth pulled me out of my usual over 1 reading? My BG was 96 this morning which is 10-15 points higher than usual too. I was around my DGS whom I love dearly , would I have ingested enough sweetness from him to raise that? Just joking of course. I don't know, I am confused. The 2 new things I ate were the kefir cheese and the bread which I made, so I will try those 2 things again, separately and see if I react to either of them again, but I am stumped. Weight remains at a steady, very stubborn 198. Oh, my calories were lower than I had posted last night, I looked at my log to report what I had eaten to you guys and realized I had entered a couple of things twice. So it was in the 1300-1400 range. __________________ Buffy

10-12-2012, 10:08 AM	#980
shelley Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 851 Gallery: shelley	Good morning all!!! Major Red...you are melting away before our eyes!! Amazing and oh so inspirational! Congratulations. FYI....Mr. Shelley is 6'2" tall, large boned and he is 215#. He does not look fat. H'es very fit. When we lived in India and had no grocery stores, he got down to 185 and he looked emaciated....very unhealthy looking. I'm sure at 6' you look fabulous in the 180's! If you find a cure for the belly fat, let us know...I'd like it too! Dianaj: Great job on the macros you posted. You definitely "have it" and will do great. PC....thanks for telling me to not trust the meters...I have 3 (one free that just arrived, and the 2 I bought...All of them are NovaMax Plus!) SouthernGirl....very interesting to read what you wrote about reimbursement for medical and all that we "hear" and is "disputed" by various "pundits" trying to get votes this way or that (NOT going into politics here!!!!). It's a sad state of affairs, but I had hand surgery in Jan. and the doc requested that I bring in my insurance after it was all said and done as he had no idea what got paid or how much he got paid. He said that he'd never asked that of a patient before, but we really got along well....he has a sick sense of humor and Red and he would get along beautifully!!!!!....anyway, he called in his office manager when I came in with the paperwork. I was in his privately built medical facility for surgeries that he shares with other docs and it's gorgeous. The surgery was about an hour and several assistants were used. He billed about $12,500 I believe and he got paid $850 for the facility, his services, the anesthesiologist and the nurses too. Pretty sad. So, I believe all that you wrote, but it's good to see it in print from a different "aspect". Sad. Buffy....thanks so much for your comments about B/G and Ha1C and everything you wrote. I'm looking back at my fasting glucose blood tests from annual physicals from 1985 to present (that's my birthday present to myself every year since 1985). I was in the 70's from 1985 to 1996...then I went into the 80's until 2003 when I went into the 90's. I loved my fruit and cottage cheese and was SKINNY (98-110# at nearly 5' 6"). I was not a meat eater, so very low protein other than the cottage cheese and eggs. IN 2006 I hit 101 and was shocked..doc said it was fine. Then back to 98, 99 and 95 for the next few years. (until 2010) Then I got a 105 and a 107....went to about 5 docs during that time for hormonal issues and they all thought my glucose was fine. This year the doc said that she thought 107 was fine (Ha1C was 5.8, range of 4-6) and that she wasn't going to even address it until it got to 120. I thought that was horrible and I won't go back to her. Why wait? Nobody ever asked about my eating and that's when I got really strict with LC by doing research. Then I found Kristn's thread on NK in August and started reading and buying books, etc. If the meter is faulty (all of them!!!), then that's fine, but the Ha1C is over a 3 month average and it's NOT fine (as Buffy said). But where I live there are no docs that I can go to. They are all idiots (sorry). I've been self diagnosing for about 3 years and am finally healthy with my endocrine system with the help of a wonderful patient advocate.....but I'm not happy with the glucose and haven't been for over a year. It scares me. No diabetes anywhere in my family. I'm the ONLY one that is low carb...everyone else parties, drinks, eats pastries, sugars, wheat, etc and they have glucose in the 80's. I feel like Nancy Kerrigan with the "WHY ME"!?!?! On the weight...today I'm up yet again.... Yesterday went up .8 and today up .2 for a total 1# gain in just a couple days. Changes? Only lowering my calories below 1400-1600 to 1200-1300. Go figure. I'm not giving up or giving in. I'm just reporting my results. I'm not even depressed...just "frustrated" and not understanding. And I'm not going to test for anything for another week......measurements will be done on Sunday morning as usual so we'll see. I'm wearing my 10 Lee jeans today and they are VERY comfy. When I started this, I couldn't even get them zipped!!! :-) So, I"m not dissatisfied with the results, just sort of "scared" with the glucose readings. I would never have known this was an issue without the NK readings and using the "glucose strips" that came with the meter! Then ordering 150 more on ebay! ha ha OK...sorry this is so darned long. Everyone is doing great! I want to do great too!!!! __________________ Shelley

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10-12-2012, 07:38 AM	#961
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,548 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	I read a simple body frame test is to circle your wrist with your other hand, and if your middle finger and thumb don't touch, you are large frame, if they do, you are medium and if they overlap you are small frame. I barely fit into medium and if I lose to my normal weight, I am sure that is where I fall. Right now people think or refer to me as large frame but they are being kind me thinks

10-12-2012, 07:52 AM	#965
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,548 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	No grains Red. It contained unblanched almond flour, salt, caraway seeds, onion powder, water, oil, eggs and 1 T dark molasses, baking soda and vinegar, made 10 servings. I have avoided grains as far as I know.

10-12-2012, 08:00 AM	#967
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,548 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Even pondered whether I had taken any different meds, nope, don't recall anything different. I had blood drawn yesterday at my lab appt., maybe they sucked all of my ketosis out?

10-12-2012, 08:01 AM	#968
reddarin Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 5,466 Gallery: reddarin Stats: 6' 47y/o 265/193/170 WOE: NK Start Date: Aug 13, 2011	Stress maybe?

10-12-2012, 08:03 AM	#969
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,548 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Nope, no stress yesterday, actually a good day. I am stumped, we will see what today and testing tomorrow morning brings.....

10-12-2012, 08:07 AM	#970
zay Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: DET Posts: 3,731 Gallery: zay Stats: 331/289.5/146 WOE: Caloric deficit/adequate protein/moderate carbs	Woohoo Red! Down another pound!! BG - I measured this morning with a new pricker thing...can't remember the name and clean hands. First reading on my middle finger 108, second reading immediately after 94. I'm glad that thing was free cause I don't find much value in it. by the way...I believe I read someone was looking for this info for fasting BG normal BG - under 99 prediabetic - 100-125 diabetic - 126 or above This is not the only determination of Diabetes diagnosis. There are other measures taken into consideration google.... National Diabetes Information Clearinghouse (NDIC) ...you'll find thorough, yet brief info there

10-12-2012, 08:45 AM	#971
Patlaf Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a small town on the sunny coast of Spain. Posts: 3,054 Gallery: Patlaf Stats: start 226/178/145 WOE: Atkins	Buffy, I have absolutely no wisdom to impart re BG but I have lots of for you. Hope this was just a temporary glitch and that tomorrow everything will be back to normal. Pat

10-12-2012, 08:59 AM	#973
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,548 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Call off the emergency people!! Just retested my BK and it reads 1.1. About ready to toss the Nova meter and look into the precision one. Have ruined several strips with error reading, etc. Back down squad, back down.

10-12-2012, 09:25 AM	#975
portcop01 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,255 Gallery: portcop01 Stats: 197-148-130 WOE: Lc Start Date: July 15	I'm not hungry today at all!!do you think I have to eat I did have 2 eggs yukkkk.coffee with hwc and co .i feel if I eat I will be sick....

10-12-2012, 09:33 AM	#977
reddarin Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 5,466 Gallery: reddarin Stats: 6' 47y/o 265/193/170 WOE: NK Start Date: Aug 13, 2011	In retrospect, if you feel the day is going in that direction then concentrate on getting your protein in and don't worry about fat%.

10-12-2012, 10:01 AM	#978
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,548 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Need quick help. How do I link to our thread here? I have done it but have forgotten, I have another victim, errr, I mean have someone who needs help figuring their rations and know Red can help her.

10-12-2012, 10:10 AM	#982
zay Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: DET Posts: 3,731 Gallery: zay Stats: 331/289.5/146 WOE: Caloric deficit/adequate protein/moderate carbs	Buffy, copy and paste the address up in the browser like this... http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ot...l#post16010189

10-12-2012, 10:21 AM	#983
Buffy45 Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Posts: 8,548 Gallery: Buffy45 Stats: Type 2 Diabetic as of 6/1/08 WOE: LC/MP/HF Start Date: Restart 9/3/2012	Thanks Zay, one of the many things I now forget on a daily basis!

10-12-2012, 10:23 AM	#984
portcop01 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,255 Gallery: portcop01 Stats: 197-148-130 WOE: Lc Start Date: July 15	You no when I lower my cals to low I don't do good, Red do you eat pork rines a lot?

10-12-2012, 10:57 AM	#988
portcop01 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,255 Gallery: portcop01 Stats: 197-148-130 WOE: Lc Start Date: July 15	Thanks red I think to day most of my protein will come from pork rinds!

10-12-2012, 10:58 AM	#989
Patlaf Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a small town on the sunny coast of Spain. Posts: 3,054 Gallery: Patlaf Stats: start 226/178/145 WOE: Atkins	Shelley, where did you live in India? DH and I were married in Kashmir, lived there for two stints of six months and two years in Delhi. Had no weight problems at all there. Weight went way up in Switzerland with crusty french bread, lots of butter, cheese, chocolate and wine none of which, as you know, were available in India. Pat

10-12-2012, 11:07 AM	#990
drjlocarb Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,212 Gallery: drjlocarb Stats: 274 /224/190 WOE: vlc/NK Start Date: LC-1999,jan2010 274 NK 1-1-13 at 244	this little problem is what caused me to be hanging off the wagon since Jan. I tested for a week and every morning my bg levels were 120-130. During the day it would slowly drop to 90 even after meals. I bought an A1c meter and it was 5.6. I re-tested 4 months later and it was down to 4.9. During that 4 months(hanging off the wagon) my bg levels were 78-99 every day. This scared me enough to think I was causing damage even with a daily carb level of 10-15/day. I read those blogs and I was not satisfied that I wasn't doing damage with levels in the 120's. This is a post from June^^^^. What I mean by "hanging off the wagon" is that I was NOT eating a ketogenic diet during that time. My carb levels were maybe 100g instead of 10-15g, with some days being 50g, or 100g, and a few times 15g -25g. I am try to say I am not diabetic. If I don't eat LC, my b/g levels are normal...BUT, I did gain weight during that time. I had to go back to vlc to halt the weight gain. Shelly, the only way to know if you are diabetic is to go high carb and see what your numbers will look like. The numbers posted by the Diabetic Assoc. do not apply to me on a ketogenic LC diet. It may be the same for you.