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Old 09-26-2012, 11:15 PM   #691
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Hey - Question for anyone... what do I do with coconut cream? I found it in the international foods isle. 3g carbs for 1/2 c serving, and it's 20g fat, so I think it will fit in nicely with the plan, but I don't exactly know what to do with it. I don't really like coconut flavored coffee. Other thoughts? Should I just go the recipe area?
I love using coconut cream along with 1 or 2 tsp of red curry paste to make a sauce for chicken, shrimp or ground beef.
I drink tea as opposed to coffee and enjoy a couple of Tbsp of it in that.
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Do any of you go a wheel and not lose any thing or gain?
I often go a week or more without losing. But it's not unusual for me to see a change in inches even when the scale isn't moving.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:33 AM   #693
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I got labwork back from my endo about my thyroid and found I am in range T3 and T4, but I am low in B12! never been low in that before. I need to take 1000mcg now as a supplement. So weird. I will do it though! My energy has been off and I figured it was thyroid.
Can I suggest the sublingual methylcobalamin form? Not everyone is easily able to convert the other forms. I take 2.5 mg per day (or 2500 mcg) and it keeps my levels high normal after I was diagnosed.

Though to be honest it crashed my energy when I first began taking it...but I think my body had to rest while it was making new (and not deformed) red blood cells. I had a bit of iron deficiency AND b12 deficiency, which tends to mask each other (one gives small blood cells, one gives large blood cells).
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Hey - Question for anyone... what do I do with coconut cream? I found it in the international foods isle. 3g carbs for 1/2 c serving, and it's 20g fat, so I think it will fit in nicely with the plan, but I don't exactly know what to do with it. I don't really like coconut flavored coffee. Other thoughts? Should I just go the recipe area?
I eat a measured portion straight from the jar. Love it.
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I love using coconut cream along with 1 or 2 tsp of red curry paste to make a sauce for chicken, shrimp or ground beef.
I drink tea as opposed to coffee and enjoy a couple of Tbsp of it in that.
I LOVE this stuff! I put in my coffee, tea, sauces, cream cheese clouds, on cheese based sauces for spagetti squash, and I eat teaspoons of it to make me smile!
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:56 AM   #696
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I often go a week or more without losing. But it's not unusual for me to see a change in inches even when the scale isn't moving.
I have gone 15 months without losing, and now am bouncing around with 2 lbs up and down....but my smallest pants fit loose, and my tummy feels flatter! I was "married" to the scale since I was a teenager....."divorced" it about a month ago. I'll check in with weight once a week now, and let my body tell me how it's doing.
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I love using coconut cream along with 1 or 2 tsp of red curry paste to make a sauce for chicken, shrimp or ground beef.
I drink tea as opposed to coffee and enjoy a couple of Tbsp of it in that.
Hmmm.

Is the cream and paste sweet or savory? Do you just simmer to thicken or heat through?

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Good morning everyone!

Yesterday my maintenance intake was:
Protein: 85.2 (19%)
Fat: 157.5 (77%)
Carbs (total): 25.6 (4%)
Calories: 1832
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Weight: 149 (up 1.6)
Ketones: .9
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Ugh! Even though I'm below my goal weight I've gained 3 pounds in the last 2 days. I looked at my chart and it looks like my highs every week are recorded on Thursdays, the morning after my second kettlebell class of the week. My hamstrings are sore this morning which probably indicates some water retention. I also eat later on kettlebell class days which may be part of what's going on?

Today marks 30 days of maintenance. My goal was to track closely for 30 days and then reevaluate. I only have one ketone strip left, but 40 more should be arriving soon. I'm definitely going to continue tracking my intake and weight fluctuations, but I'm not sure how often to do the ketones. I seem to be consistently in ketosis, but not in the 2-3 range I was in when I was really trying to lose.

I leave for vacation a week from tomorrow and I'm not going to have access to my scale while I'm gone. I am thinking of bringing my food scale and maybe my meter? I'm sure DH will tell me to leave the meter at home and will probably be upset if I bring the food scale. It may be an experiment in eyeballing portions!

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I love using coconut cream along with 1 or 2 tsp of red curry paste to make a sauce for chicken, shrimp or ground beef.
I drink tea as opposed to coffee and enjoy a couple of Tbsp of it in that.
We make Thai curries with the curry pastes and coconut cream all the time! They're actually super easy. I'll try to post instructions in the recipe thread when I get a chance. If you have an Asian market there are usually a wide selection of small cans of curry pastes. Some have a little bit of sugar so I usually choose the ones without.
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It may be an experiment in eyeballing portions!
Try to measure things if you can't weigh them. Like, weigh out 5 ounces of chicken and get familiar with how long, wide and thick it is. If you form an L with your thumb and finger, how far to the end of your finger does it stretch and how many ounces does that equate to? Cut off an inch and weigh again and compare lengths to weights.

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to the forum sheri! On this thread we are mostly following the Phinney/Volek Art and Science books to get into nutritional ketosis to lose. You can read more on the first page of this thread here. I'm not sure if this group will be helpful for you, but you are more than welcome to join in! You might want to check out the Main Lobby. There's always lots going on there and you may find people who are following a similar plan.
Thank you for the info. I'll check out the other forums. Best of luck ladies.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:28 AM   #702
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Yes it is. I wonder if it is not helping him with weight loss seeing as he is not diabetic. It is for blood sugar control.
I also wondered why he was taking it.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:34 AM   #703
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I hadn't really noticed until I was reading thru the posts this AM. My constant thirst of many years is I guess what you would call normal now! Is it the potassium or the magnesium or the combo of both? The good thing is being rid of it, the bad thing is that it made it easy to get all my water in, I could not get enough.

Nice to be normal in at least one aspect of my life
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:39 AM   #704
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Try to measure things if you can't weigh them. Like, weigh out 5 ounces of chicken and get familiar with how long, wide and thick it is. If you form an L with your thumb and finger, how far to the end of your finger does it stretch and how many ounces does that equate to? Cut off an inch and weigh again and compare lengths to weights.

Thanks for the idea red! I will practice measuring with my fingers this week. I hope to be eating a lot of fish on my trip, but we only eat it 2x/week at home and not the same variety. I will do my best and it will have to do.
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I hadn't really noticed until I was reading thru the posts this AM. My constant thirst of many years is I guess what you would call normal now! Is it the potassium or the magnesium or the combo of both? The good thing is being rid of it, the bad thing is that it made it easy to get all my water in, I could not get enough.

Nice to be normal in at least one aspect of my life
Buffy, I am this way too. I used to be so thirsty and drink a ton of water when I was first starting LC. Now I drink to thirst and no more. It actually frees up a lot of bathroom time.
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Can I suggest the sublingual methylcobalamin form? Not everyone is easily able to convert the other forms. I take 2.5 mg per day (or 2500 mcg) and it keeps my levels high normal after I was diagnosed.

Though to be honest it crashed my energy when I first began taking it...but I think my body had to rest while it was making new (and not deformed) red blood cells. I had a bit of iron deficiency AND b12 deficiency, which tends to mask each other (one gives small blood cells, one gives large blood cells).
Thank you so much for the advice!! I'll pick some up. Funny you mentioned deformed red blood cells- mine are oval and not round! Thanks again,
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[QUOTE=mom2zeke;15974137]Good morning everyone!
I'm definitely going to continue tracking my intake and weight fluctuations, but I'm not sure how often to do the ketones. I seem to be consistently in ketosis, but not in the 2-3 range I was in when I was really trying to lose.

Happy 30 days of maintenance!! I wonder what is the difference between then and now? I'd like to be in 2-3 more myself and seem to be bouncing around in the 1-2 range.

[QUOTE=mom2zeke;15974137]Good morning everyone!

Today marks 30 days of maintenance. My goal was to track closely for 30 days and then reevaluate. I only have one ketone strip left, but 40 more should be arriving soon. I'm definitely going to continue tracking my intake and weight fluctuations, but I'm not sure how often to do the ketones. I seem to be consistently in ketosis, but not in the 2-3 range I was in when I was really trying to lose.

I wonder what is the difference between then and now?
I'd like to be in 2-3 more myself and seem to be bouncing around in the 1-2 range. When I hit 3 yesterday, I was so shocked- no idea why I hit it! today I am back to 1.8
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What test do they do to find if you are deficient in B12? I took the shots one time as I was recovering from pneumonia to help restore energy. But, I don't think they tested for it, just thought it would help.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:54 AM   #709
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I had my highest ketone reading this morning, it was 2.4. Not sure if it makes any difference as to how you lose, etc. but fun to see it that high.
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What test do they do to find if you are deficient in B12? I took the shots one time as I was recovering from pneumonia to help restore energy. But, I don't think they tested for it, just thought it would help.
There is a b-12 blood test. Also a folate blood test is usually done at the same time.
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Happy 30 days of maintenance!! I wonder what is the difference between then and now? I'd like to be in 2-3 more myself and seem to be bouncing around in the 1-2 range. When I hit 3 yesterday, I was so shocked- no idea why I hit it! today I am back to 1.8
Thanks clairie! I'm really starting to think it may have to do with how much you eat the day before. I was eating in a much lower calorie range when I was seeing those numbers. I was also eating less protein, but I've had lower protein days in maintenance and have not had my readings get that high.

Buffy--didn't you not eat for 24 hours yesterday? That could be why you had such a high reading.

On the Phinney/Volek graph there is and "ideal" range and then higher than that is labeled "starvation." Perhaps starvation is the code word for eating way below your basal metabolic rate?
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I did go for almost 24 hours, unintentionally, without eating, but I made up all my numbers in about 3 hours once I did start eating. That might have been it, not sure but just got that little thrill from seeing it that high. Easily entertained here in TX.
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My first week the weight went down every day. After that it was a roller coaster. Here's my daily weight fluctuations. I record it each morning and move on with my day (except when it's a new low, then I am a little joyous). I prefer it this way. If I only weighed myself on Mondays, I might be pretty disheartened by now. On the other hand, if I only weighed once a month, I'd be pretty happy. :-)

156.0; Aug 27, 2012; Mon
154.8; Aug 29, 2012
153.6; Aug 30, 2012
153.6; Aug 31, 2012
152.6; Sep 01, 2012
152.8; Sep 02, 2012
152.0; Sep 03, 2012
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152.6; Sep 09, 2012
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151.0; Sep 13, 2012
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151.6; Sep 15, 2012
152.8; Sep 16, 2012
153.2; Sep 17, 2012
152.0; Sep 18, 2012 Mon
150.6; Sep 19, 2012
149.8; Sep 20, 2012
149.8; Sep 21, 2012
149.4; Sep 22, 2012 LOWEST!!
150.0; Sep 23, 2012
151.2; Sep 24, 2012
151.4; Sep 25, 2012 Mon
151.0; Sep 26, 2012
149.8; Sep 27, 2012
Trend should be a new low tomorrow...we'll see...
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Yeah! ROute66 looks great! Thanks for posting! I like seeing the ups and downs- it really helps my motivation as well to stick with it!
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My weight is bouncing around, too, but I am taking the low weight for the week as my "real" weight and the difference as "water," so long as I stay strictly on plan in terms of calories, carbs, and protein grams. And the low keeps dropping a little lower, over time. That seems to be the least stressful mindset for me to adopt.
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I weigh and record at home every day as well, just update it in my signature line once a week.

Route 66, that looks great,you are doing well.
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There have been quite a few comments about fluctuations in water weight lately. This made me wonder if anyone has any good experiences with those scales that measure body fat percentage. I've seen people say they aren't too accurate, but if they were at least consistent, it should be possible to see if body fat is declining over time.

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PS - My waist was down to 37.25" this AM. Sure a lot better than the 43" girth I had before switching from vegan LF to Paleo/LCHF two and a half years ago. I'm trying to get into the "Excellent" range for men (under 37") per the chart in "How to Lose Weight, Part 4 of 17" on the Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt's DietDoctor site.
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Terry, I have the Tanita scale that also measures BF. I have no idea how accurate it is b/c I have never had it tested any other way. But, as you said, I am looking at it as a way to see if it goes down, it is consitently about the same number each day, the highest being in the AM. So far, 3 1/2 weeks into this WOE, I have seen little to no change, I hope to see it start to slowly go down, not sure how long that takes, I am not exercising.
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