High Fat Again! 80/15/5

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by Buffy45

Red, are you the one who captured your menu using a screen shot? If there an easy way to explain that to me. I tried to use help in MS Explorer and couldn't figure it out. If it is complicated, don't worry, be happy

I am but I use a flavor of Linux not Windows. It is very, very easy with this operating system.

I'm pretty sure it is super easy with Windows too but let me check and I'll PM you tomorrow.

[Flavia]

My numbers for today:
calories 1511
carbs 18
Fat 133
Protein 56
Fiber 8

Remaining
cals 120
carbs 2
fat 12
protein 6

[lonestarstamper]

so 1oz of protein is how many grams??? Or my questions is, how many oz of protein is 54g ? How do use the grams to eat your right amount of protein,fat and carbs ? Sorry....I am a little confused. I probably need to use some sort of tracker.

[Flavia]

I use fit day...I put in my numbers under goal and then the food I ate...and it spits out ur results...

[lonestarstamper]

Originally Posted by reddarin

Numbers for today!

Calories 2051

Fat grams 187
Pro grams 071
Car grams 021

I will keep attaching my logs from now on so people can see what I am eating and how the portions and everything shakes out.

If there is an item with a zero amount then that was just me tweaking my menu but if it is zero I didn't eat it.

OMG!! Big Red Zero and HWC! Awesome! Buffy and Deborah for the float thingie!

=)

what tracker do you use?

[littleone]

Would love to join in on this thread if that's ok.
I have been "lurking" for a while.
Red could you help another Texas girl out with numbers, please?
5'6"
149 lbs.
light activity
46 years young

[littleone]

Originally Posted by reddarin

Morning all. Weigh-in this morning 200.1 !!

Is it possible that I'll be in onederland tomorrow? It makes my heart go pitter patter.

Fingers & toes crossed for you!

[portcop01]

This so unreal to me 6 days ago I was 182.6 today I'm 177.4... That's 5.2 lbs in 6 days..I love it I never did third good just following Atkins ,and I thought I did good then..
I just upped my cal..from 1000 to 1400 ......lower protein a lot and upped my fat carbs stayed same under 20 always. I wanted to be 177 by the end of month,,made my goal early,so should I set another one or just be surprised at the end of month?

[reddarin]

Weigh-in this morning ... drum roll please .... 201.3!!

lol dang it

Although I never did change my profile stats *and* I wore my lucky shirt to bed last night *and* I gently bathed and cuddled the scale I was betrayed.

On the other hand, I did measure my waist (belly button level) on the 10th and it was 44 and yesterday when I got my all time low it was 42.5 and this morning, dispite the bump on the scale it was 42.2.

I'm curious to see what tomorrow brings.

Onward!

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by littleone

Would love to join in on this thread if that's ok.
I have been "lurking" for a while.
Red could you help another Texas girl out with numbers, please?
5'6"
149 lbs.
light activity
46 years young

Yes I sure will. Give me a few minutes =)

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by portcop01

This so unreal to me 6 days ago I was 182.6 today I'm 177.4... That's 5.2 lbs in 6 days..I love it I never did third good just following Atkins ,and I thought I did good then..
I just upped my cal..from 1000 to 1400 ......lower protein a lot and upped my fat carbs stayed same under 20 always. I wanted to be 177 by the end of month,,made my goal early,so should I set another one or just be surprised at the end of month?

Congrats you are kicking butt!

Yes, absolutely set a new goal. My short term goal is to break the 200 mark. My next goal is 190. My goal after that is 185. When I get to 190ish I'll reevaluate the after 185 goal.

[Bernsy]

Originally Posted by portcop01

This so unreal to me 6 days ago I was 182.6 today I'm 177.4... That's 5.2 lbs in 6 days..I love it I never did third good just following Atkins ,and I thought I did good then..
I just upped my cal..from 1000 to 1400 ......lower protein a lot and upped my fat carbs stayed same under 20 always. I wanted to be 177 by the end of month,,made my goal early,so should I set another one or just be surprised at the end of month?

Port, how did you do that? How do I do that?

[portcop01]

I got my # right! You can ask red to do them for you,then sign up for fit day and track everything just like red said.after the first several days you will have to make your self eat. I upped my fat by putting hwc in coffee and eating fat bombs ( yum ) I also add coconut oil in my diet I eat 2 eggs ever morning with 1 tbs coconut oil makes your eggs taste great!i was only eating 1000 cals when I got then up to 1400 I lost,they are right your body goes in to starvation mode and you stop losing. Any thing I can help with let me no!!

Don't forget to ask Red to do your #.. Follow to a T and you will lose

[theLossgirl]

Originally Posted by reddarin

Weigh-in this morning ... drum roll please .... 201.3!!

lol dang it

Although I never did change my profile stats *and* I wore my lucky shirt to bed last night *and* I gently bathed and cuddled the scale I was betrayed.

On the other hand, I did measure my waist (belly button level) on the 10th and it was 44 and yesterday when I got my all time low it was 42.5 and this morning, dispite the bump on the scale it was 42.2.

I'm curious to see what tomorrow brings.

Onward!

Can't trust that dastardly scale. But you can definitely trust your tape measure! I call your new measurement a big win!

[Flavia]

Good Morning all

Welcome to the newbies, and congrats to all the losers!!!!! I would trust the measuring tape over the scale any day!!!! Congrats!!!!!

[Flavia]

That being said I am down 1.5lbs. Very happy this morning

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by littleone

Would love to join in on this thread if that's ok.
I have been "lurking" for a while.
Red could you help another Texas girl out with numbers, please?
5'6"
149 lbs.
light activity
46 years young

Alrighty. Sorry that took so long. It is really pretty quick to do it with a calculator but I wanted to make a spreadsheet to automate it so I wouldn't have to be paranoid about flubbing a number while doing the calculations.

Here ya go:

The formula that I use, created by Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, is:

((Height in cm)-100) +/-10% = Protein Grams [ I use the -10% number]
Fat grams = P*2.5
Carb grams = P*.5

...which results in this:

Protein:61
Fat:152
Carbs: 30

Total calories: 1735

Please let me know if you have any questions

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by theLossgirl

Can't trust that dastardly scale. But you can definitely trust your tape measure! I call your new measurement a big win!

heh

I considered getting a concealed carry license to menace the scale with but that thing is pretty stoic from my experience with verbal threats.

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by g3rmanchik

That being said I am down 1.5lbs. Very happy this morning

Hooray Christina!!!

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by reddarin

Weigh-in this morning ... drum roll please .... 201.3!!

lol dang it

Although I never did change my profile stats *and* I wore my lucky shirt to bed last night *and* I gently bathed and cuddled the scale I was betrayed.

On the other hand, I did measure my waist (belly button level) on the 10th and it was 44 and yesterday when I got my all time low it was 42.5 and this morning, dispite the bump on the scale it was 42.2.

I'm curious to see what tomorrow brings.

Onward!

glad to see your sense of humor shine through!!!

Ok, did you do the 2 out of three weighs?, where you get on the scale 3 times and toss out the 2 highest? Doesn't work on my tanita b/c that darn thing reads exactly the same each time.

Did you try to use the toilet just one more time?

Did it before using any eye drops or deodorant? You know how much those weigh!!!

I predict you will have a whoosh soon.

I lost over 6 lbs last week and so far this, my 2nd week, I have not lost any, but this morning I am back to my low of last week so I have my fingers crossed that by Monday when I post my weight I can show a loss to you all.

[Buffy45]

Red, do the calculations you use take activity level into account? I am lazy, or I mean sedentary :-) and so I am keeping my calories below what I see most of your calculations come out at. I would really love to eat more calories now, so that as I get smaller if I have to cut back I will have the wiggle room to do so. I guess the only way I will find out is to do the tweaking I know I will have to do along the way. I guess I am just so scared of the higher calories b/c back when I started LC in the early 2000's people were all, eat all you want, just very few carbs and I was packing in 2500 or more calories a day and guess what? I didn't lose but then when I tried to cut back to say 1400 or so, man, I thought I was starving. These days I don't have as big of an appetite so it is easier to stay at around 1400 but I don't want to shortchange myself. Does any of that make sense???

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by g3rmanchik

That being said I am down 1.5lbs. Very happy this morning

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by lonestarstamper

what tracker do you use?

Sorry almost missed your question.

I use ****** for my food log. I tell you what, it has some serious deficiencies for having been around as long as it has been.

Just yesterday, I tried to add a cup of unsweetened Almond Milk to my log and it isn't on the built in food list. Lots of 'almond' related stuff but no actual plain old almond milk.

There are others that are popular but I do not know what their drawbacks may be. If you are just starting logging then try out a few of them before you settle on one. Or, better yet, use two or three at the same time. That will give you a great chance to evaluate them against each other.

****** has a premium thing but I just use the free part of the site. And they are not pro-LC so just ignore any of the warning flags that might pop up trying to scare you into staying overweight by eating 'normally'.

For ******, here are a couple of tips to get around some of the deficiencies with it.

#1 - If you can't find something on the list, google '****** itemName list' to see if you can discover the name it is listed under if it is on the list.

#2 - If you have to add a food, the easiest way to do it is pick something similar and use the 'customize' button to create your item.

#2a - Be sure that the item you are customizing has the type of measurement you want to use. Like, grams or ounces or cups. Some items won't have ounces for example.

#2b - Be descriptive with the new item name and include your serving size. Like if you are doing an ounce of the item then put '1oz' in the title so you will always know what a 'serving' is because the new custom food will say 'serving' not oz or cup or whatever you selected when you created it.

[Bikerchick]

Christina!! Woot woot.. you go girl..oh and congrats..lol

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by Buffy45

glad to see your sense of humor shine through!!!

Ok, did you do the 2 out of three weighs?, where you get on the scale 3 times and toss out the 2 highest? Doesn't work on my tanita b/c that darn thing reads exactly the same each time.

Did you try to use the toilet just one more time?

Did it before using any eye drops or deodorant? You know how much those weigh!!!

I predict you will have a whoosh soon.

I lost over 6 lbs last week and so far this, my 2nd week, I have not lost any, but this morning I am back to my low of last week so I have my fingers crossed that by Monday when I post my weight I can show a loss to you all.

lol

3 identical times. heh

I massaged my belly, as per directions I found on the internet, to no avail for the hoped for drop in total body mass with the morning constitutional.

I had lathered up my whole body with shaving cream thinking that excess body hair is really just vanity but having a smooth body and shaved head seemed extreme along with contemplating the trade off of razor burn in various areas.

=)

[Buffy45]

[QUOTE=reddarin;15943796]Sorry almost missed your question.

I use ****** for my food log. I tell you what, it has some serious deficiencies for having been around as long as it has been. END of quote

I found a free one by googling that I am really beginning to like now that I have used it for a week and 1/2. They all take a while to get used to. I'm not allowed to post the link to it though. The only thing I dislike about it is that it has a lot of ads all over the page that take up space so you have to constantly move up and down on the page, but that is the only thing I don't like. You can plug in your nutritional goals and it uses those for your daily goals and reports. It will show you their recommended ones but doesn't slap you on the wrist for your LC ones. What I do like is that if what you are looking for isn't in their database, since it is a public one, they also show lists of entrys by others who usually have already entered what you are looking for. Just check the nutrition on their entry to make sure it matches what you are looking for, then you can save it as one of your favorites.

[Flavia]

Originally Posted by reddarin

lol

3 identical times. heh

I massaged my belly, as per directions I found on the internet, to no avail for the hoped for drop in total body mass with the morning constitutional.

I had lathered up my whole body with shaving cream thinking that excess body hair is really just vanity but having a smooth body and shaved head seemed extreme along with contemplating the trade off of razor burn in various areas.

=)

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by Buffy45

Red, do the calculations you use take activity level into account? I am lazy, or I mean sedentary :-) and so I am keeping my calories below what I see most of your calculations come out at. I would really love to eat more calories now, so that as I get smaller if I have to cut back I will have the wiggle room to do so. I guess the only way I will find out is to do the tweaking I know I will have to do along the way. I guess I am just so scared of the higher calories b/c back when I started LC in the early 2000's people were all, eat all you want, just very few carbs and I was packing in 2500 or more calories a day and guess what? I didn't lose but then when I tried to cut back to say 1400 or so, man, I thought I was starving. These days I don't have as big of an appetite so it is easier to stay at around 1400 but I don't want to shortchange myself. Does any of that make sense???

Not directly, no.

But although I use the low numbers for the formula, they are actually a range.

Protein is +/-10% of the median.

Fat is P*2.5 to 3.5

So, if you were really active you can adjust protein and fat upwards a lot.

What the doc is doing is determining your lean body mass based on your height and protecting it by the resulting daily minimum requirement of protein grams.

That means that if you do eat less than the formula you need to try hard to get the protein grams in for the day even if it stalls you because if you eat a lot less than the required protein you are only losing muscle/bone/not-fat mass.

In my non-doctor opinion, a day every now and then won't derail you if it isn't carbs that you binge on.

I mean, a super high protein and low fat day but still low carb will knock you out of ketosis but it isn't the same sort of knock out that carbs do to you.

I think the occasional protein glucogenisis is much less impactful (which doesn't seem to be a word) for regaining a more continuous state of ketosis than a carb binge would be.

people were all, eat all you want

People still say and think that. The real LC way is 'eat all you want not all you can'.

I was surprised, last year, after I started logging my food, that I was way over eating. That is when I realized that I was eating from habit not hunger.

After that I played around with it and would see how long I could go between calorie consumption. Some days I was 1500ish calories below the BMR for maintenance

Of course, that triggers starvation mode so I didn't keep doing it after it stalled me a few times lol.

[reddarin]

Originally Posted by Buffy45

What I do like is that if what you are looking for isn't in their database, since it is a public one, they also show lists of entrys by others who usually have already entered what you are looking for.

GAH!!! ****** has something similar BUT!!!! you cannot add someone else's custom food to your log!!!

You can only stare at it longingly while dreading the hassle of creating your own.

I tell you what, I wish I'd have done what I heartily recommend now, which is to use 2 or 3 at the same time when you first start out so you can compare daily ease of use before settling on one. [edit: I did use two or three others. I didn't use them all at the same time for a week or two.]

It is too late for me. My year long history is at ******.

I'm too harsh about them though lol. I do like a lot about the food log =)

[theLossgirl]

Originally Posted by g3rmanchik

That being said I am down 1.5lbs. Very happy this morning

Woo hoo! I was down .5. Isn't it great!