Nutritional Ketosis (LC/HF/MP) Challenge Anyone?

[Buffy45]

Just finished up my 10th day on plan.

Today's totals are:

Calories 1649
Pro 61 - 14.8%
Carb 13 - 3.2%
Fat 151 - 82%

Just got my meter today and tested after lunch, .7. Since it was a new "toy" I just had to test again tonight, and it was 1.7. Woot woot, I am doing something right!!!

Went out to dinner with some friends tonight. Drank diet coke instead of wine and had a cheeseburger/no bun and a few grilled veggies, swimming in some kind of fat, I kind of picked the veggies out and ate about 1/2 cup. When I got home I rewarded myself for sticking to my WOE and had a diet root beer float and one fat bomb.

Made up my 2nd batch of fat bombs today and added the almond butter, they are delish. And, I bought the wilton mold that Rebecca used to freeze them in, makes them exactly the same size and they look so pretty. Better than most chocolates you would buy made with tons of sugar.

[portcop01]

Today is day 5 down from 4.5 lbs unreal just cutting back on protein and adding hwc to my coffee I'm loving it!!

[Flavia]

Morning all

Congrats to all the losers!!!!!!!!!!
Everybody else keep at it. U will succeed !!!!!

[theLossgirl]

I just want to say, I'm loving this. I did great at first with just drastically lowering carbs, but now I'm trying to lose a few more vanity pounds and got stuck at the same weight for a couple of weeks. Of course I got the, "those last few pounds can take a long time".

I've only been doing this for a few days but I saw a difference from day one. I have lost 1.5 pounds more so far in only a few days! Hooray!

[mom2zeke]

Good morning everyone!!

Yesterday my (maintenance) intake was:
Protein: 81.6 (18%)
Carbs: 22.9 (4%)
Fat: 186.1 (77%)
Alcohol: 0 (0%)
Calories: 2056
This morning:
Weight: 151.2 (up .4)
Ketones: 1.4
Blood Glucose: 97

I had kettlebell class last night and ate within the 1 hour window after class. I'm not sure how I feel about eating after class rather than before. I'm still getting used to it. I think I end up eating more that way. I had my dinner and then 3 fat bombs! I do not want to get in that habit. Ketones are good, BG is high which I think is due to severe stress.

How is everyone else doing?

[mom2zeke]

to all the new people on the thread!

And congratulations on all of the losses!! They're happening so fast it's hard to keep up!

[Flavia]

Question to the woman on this thread pls:
Do you still lose during TOM or do you gain the regular water weight or is it less??????

[JMCM1]

Buffy I agree with you - the fat bombs make me laugh every time I eat one. I am laughing because of all the years I denied myself, white-knuckled through losing weight and occasionally had "cheat days".

After I eat a fat bomb I sarcastically ask myself how long I can live like this! This torture! This delicious delicious indulgent torture! AAAAAAHH!!

[Buffy45]

Morning!

Exactly Judy!!! My mouth is certainly happy when I eat a fat bomb.

Tested first thing this morning and my ketone reading was 0.4 so a little below where it should be. Starting day 11 so hopefully I will get in the zone and stay there soon.

Does anyone know what those strips are called, and where to get them, that test your drink for sugar? I am always worried when I am out that I will get a regular coke instead of a diet coke and since fountain drinks do taste different from place to place, I am never quite sure?

Got to go plan my menu for today...

[portcop01]

I think the same thing how can you eat the fat bombs and lose weight.they always say if it taste good it's bad for you..ummm guess someone was wrong.i love them and my hwc.
I really am having a hard time eating now but I no I have to eat 1400 cals.and high fat or I want lose so much..unreal I never ate that much on a diet

[mom2zeke]

Originally Posted by g3rmanchik

Question to the woman on this thread pls:
Do you still lose during TOM or do you gain the regular water weight or is it less??????

I always gain water weight during TOM. Usually I stay off the scale, this month I am tracking everything and I've been up and down 2 pounds.

[Flavia]

TY for answering my question

[Buffy45]

Was hungrier than usual this morning.

Coffee:
3 cups with total 1 T CO and stevia
3 eggs friend in bacon grease

[shelley]

Originally Posted by mom2zeke

Good morning everyone!!

Yesterday my (maintenance) intake was:
Protein: 81.6 (18%)
Carbs: 22.9 (4%)
Fat: 186.1 (77%)
Alcohol: 0 (0%)
Calories: 2056
This morning:
Weight: 151.2 (up .4)
Ketones: 1.4
Blood Glucose: 97

I had kettlebell class last night and ate within the 1 hour window after class. I'm not sure how I feel about eating after class rather than before. I'm still getting used to it. I think I end up eating more that way. I had my dinner and then 3 fat bombs! I do not want to get in that habit. Ketones are good, BG is high which I think is due to severe stress.

How is everyone else doing?

Kristn, I was doing weight lifting (similar to the body's result with kettleballs) and was told how important it was to "refuel" the muscles within 20 minutes after a workout! So, your hour after is good, but you may want to take something with you to pop in your mouth after your class before you drive home??? I was told carbs to fuel, but WE KNOW that it's fat for our fuel. Why don't you do a test and take a fat bomb or two with you in a little cooler (so it won't melt) and pop those in your mouth as a reward for the routine and also to fuel the muscles......is anyone out there that has a better grasp on this? I'm only going by what I've read in a few weight lifting books.

I love that your calories are high and you are doing so well...gives me inspiration to keep on going with higher calories than I think I should have! :-)

[shelley]

OK...here are my results...especially for G3rmanchik/Christina.....

Yesterday I had more calories than usual....1704 (1600 goal)
154.9 fat/83%
61.9 protein (15%)
10.1 total carb (2%) this was a zucchini in 1/2 olive oil and 1/2 in my new fun stuff, macadamia oil!!! YUM!!!!!

Readings this morning....Ketones are up again!!! 1.3 and Glucose went back up from 97 (with no veggie carbs) to 106 with the zucchini for dinner.

I am testing first thing in the morning.....I understand glucose "might" be higher then, and Ketones will be "lower"....but it's the most accurate reading from what I know.

I "feel" differently in my body. Scale is up .2#, but I feel 3# lighter in my "insides". Don't know how to explain it, but it feels like I'm shrinking from the inside out, so it's not showing yet...maybe the fat around my organs? Don't measure again until Sunday, so we'll see if it gets to the "outside" by then! ha ha Clothes fit the same, but I'm wearing oversized shirts and jeans with stretch (hard to tell that way).

Have a super day everyone. I'm off for my walk!

[maybelle]

Hi all (and thanks to Buffy for pointing me to this thread).

I've pretty much been stuck around the same weight since January and in the last couple months my weight began fluctuating around 5lbs up/down, unfortunately mostly up. After some research, reading some other threads and listening to advice from you lovely people, I thought maybe I should give the HF/MP/LC a try. Why not.

I think it will take me a while to get used to. While LCing has already gotten rid of some of my fat-phobia, I think it will still take me a little bit to be fully comfortable with +/- 80% fat.

In addition, creating a meal plan will probably be a tough one for me. I figures as much as breakfast being coffee with HWC/CO, but am a little stumped for lunch. For dinner, I'll probably leave the bulk of protein/carbs. Suggestions welcome

I'm rambling...so let me end with what I started- hello

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[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by maybelle

Hi all (and thanks to Buffy for pointing me to this thread).

You are so welcome, the more of us that become active on this thread, the more we can learn from and help each other.

[Flavia]

Originally Posted by shelley

OK...here are my results...especially for G3rmanchik/Christina.....

Yesterday I had more calories than usual....1704 (1600 goal)
154.9 fat/83%
61.9 protein (15%)
10.1 total carb (2%) this was a zucchini in 1/2 olive oil and 1/2 in my new fun stuff, macadamia oil!!! YUM!!!!!

Readings this morning....Ketones are up again!!! 1.3 and Glucose went back up from 97 (with no veggie carbs) to 106 with the zucchini for dinner.

I am testing first thing in the morning.....I understand glucose "might" be higher then, and Ketones will be "lower"....but it's the most accurate reading from what I know.

I "feel" differently in my body. Scale is up .2#, but I feel 3# lighter in my "insides". Don't know how to explain it, but it feels like I'm shrinking from the inside out, so it's not showing yet...maybe the fat around my organs? Don't measure again until Sunday, so we'll see if it gets to the "outside" by then! ha ha Clothes fit the same, but I'm wearing oversized shirts and jeans with stretch (hard to tell that way).

Have a super day everyone. I'm off for my walk!

ty for posting ur stuff....how often do you exercise and what do you do...I just joined a gym and will start next week (after TOM) I plan on doing a stretch class and a pilates and hard core class....as little as cardio as possible cause I gain weight doing cardio....my adrenals are shoot and any extra stress good or bad makes me gain weight.....
I will start to really be diligent on putting my food into ******....grrrrrr I had to do that for years when I was sick and I really really really dislike it...ugh...
but I need to do it to see where I am at. Right??? Right!!!!!

[3Kids4me]

Originally Posted by shelley

I "feel" differently in my body. Scale is up .2#, but I feel 3# lighter in my "insides". Don't know how to explain it, but it feels like I'm shrinking from the inside out, so it's not showing yet...maybe the fat around my organs? Don't measure again until Sunday, so we'll see if it gets to the "outside" by then! ha ha Clothes fit the same, but I'm wearing oversized shirts and jeans with stretch (hard to tell that way).

Have a super day everyone. I'm off for my walk!

Makes total sense. I could *tell* I was smaller somehow one days the scale said otherwise or even the tape measure. It'll show eventually! Keep up the good work.

--Jamie

[JMCM1]

Originally Posted by JMCM1

Hi Mom_2_4!

It would obviously be a lot of work, but if you want to know some of your answers right now, start at the beginning of this thread. Also Kristn has in her signature line, a link to so many helpful posts that will answer some of your questions.

Here is that link: http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lo...l#post15924875 on that page it is (today) post #1025.

Today it is post #974.

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by shelley

OK...here are my results...especially for G3rmanchik/Christina.....

Yesterday I had more calories than usual....1704 (1600 goal)
154.9 fat/83%
61.9 protein (15%)
10.1 total carb (2%) this was a zucchini in 1/2 olive oil and 1/2 in my new fun stuff, macadamia oil!!! YUM!!!!!

Readings this morning....Ketones are up again!!! 1.3 and Glucose went back up from 97 (with no veggie carbs) to 106 with the zucchini for dinner.

I am testing first thing in the morning.....I understand glucose "might" be higher then, and Ketones will be "lower"....but it's the most accurate reading from what I know.

I "feel" differently in my body. Scale is up .2#, but I feel 3# lighter in my "insides". Don't know how to explain it, but it feels like I'm shrinking from the inside out, so it's not showing yet...maybe the fat around my organs? Don't measure again until Sunday, so we'll see if it gets to the "outside" by then! ha ha Clothes fit the same, but I'm wearing oversized shirts and jeans with stretch (hard to tell that way).

Have a super day everyone. I'm off for my walk!

Shelley, you day looks perfect and a lot like mine yesterday as far as our numbers. How long have you been doing HF/MP/LC?

I know exactly how you feel differently in your body. My stomach is flat, at least flat for someone my size and I feel so much more comfortable and thin inside, so much so that when I got dressed to go out last night I was surprised my clothes weren't looser than they were, . I am only on day 11 though so know that the weight loss and actual decrease of size will take a while to show up but I love feeling thinner.

[mom2zeke]

Originally Posted by shelley

Kristn, I was doing weight lifting (similar to the body's result with kettleballs) and was told how important it was to "refuel" the muscles within 20 minutes after a workout! So, your hour after is good, but you may want to take something with you to pop in your mouth after your class before you drive home??? I was told carbs to fuel, but WE KNOW that it's fat for our fuel. Why don't you do a test and take a fat bomb or two with you in a little cooler (so it won't melt) and pop those in your mouth as a reward for the routine and also to fuel the muscles......is anyone out there that has a better grasp on this? I'm only going by what I've read in a few weight lifting books.

I got Volek's book The TNT Diet and I've been trying to do the nutrient timing based on that. But I don't do the lots of carbs & protein thing, just my regular meal within an hour of working out.

I am rereading LC Performance and there is a little bit about nutrient timing in there. But they also say you can knock yourself out of ketosis by eating a lot of carbs after working out and they don't recommend it. It's all one big experiment and I'm glad I have my meter!

I love that your calories are high and you are doing so well...gives me inspiration to keep on going with higher calories than I think I should have! :-)

My calories are high because I am not trying to lose! When I was actively trying to lose I was about 1300-1400/day. Dr. Phinney was very specific that NK alone isn't going to make you lose weight. You have to be in an energy deficit otherwise your body will use your dietary fat for ketones instead of your body fat. Once you're in ketosis the less fat you eat (within the 65-85% range) the more you will access body fat.

[mom2zeke]

Originally Posted by Dottie

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[reddarin]

Originally Posted by maybelle

In addition, creating a meal plan will probably be a tough one for me. I figures as much as breakfast being coffee with HWC/CO, but am a little stumped for lunch. For dinner, I'll probably leave the bulk of protein/carbs. Suggestions welcome

My meals the last few days have been to have a couple boiled eggs and 1 oz of pork rinds for lunch. Maybe have something fat on hand for a snack mid-afternoon. Dinner has been 3 oz of chicken with some carbs and extra fat (CO to saute it).

[Flavia]

I have a fat bomb or CC muffins for lunch w/ coffee with some fat...thats pretty much it...with all the fat I am not really hungry

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by mom2zeke

My calories are high because I am not trying to lose! When I was actively trying to lose I was about 1300-1400/day. Dr. Phinney was very specific that NK alone isn't going to make you lose weight. You have to be in an energy deficit otherwise your body will use your dietary fat for ketones instead of your body fat. Once you're in ketosis the less fat you eat (within the 65-85% range) the more you will access body fat.

Ok, I just printed this out. I need to watch my calories a little closer I believe, I have been letting them slip up to around 1600 and while would love to believe I could lose on that or more, I needed to see this statement you posted to remind me that was the reason I didn't lose on LC in the past, too many calories. If I begin to lose enormous amounts of weight each week , won't happen, then I will up the calories, not before! Thanks Kristn, for me this post was very timely!

[theLossgirl]

Originally Posted by portcop01

I really am having a hard time eating now but I no I have to eat 1400 cals.and high fat or I want lose so much..unreal I never ate that much on a diet

I know! I was used to measuring my "success" by how badly I was starving when I went to bed, lol. I've never before been truly satisfied while losing weight, let alone actually full.

But last night I caught myself complaining to my husband that, though I really could have easily skipped it, I HAD to force myself to eat my dessert so my calories (just slightly under 1400) and fat (80%) would end up in the right place. Dessert was a mini cheesecake muffin with whipped cream and a diet root beer HWC float, Poor poor me!

[Flavia]

I am confused!!! (no surprise there) How does one calculate the calories on which they should be losing???? How did you do it Kristn??? I suppose you figured your total calories and then adjusted downward???? But downward to what??? Sorry too many questions

[Buffy45]

Originally Posted by theLossgirl

I know! I was used to measuring my "success" by how badly I was starving when I went to bed, lol. I've never before been truly satisfied while losing weight, let alone actually full.

But last night I caught myself complaining to my husband that, though I really could have easily skipped it, I HAD to force myself to eat my dessert so my calories (just slightly under 1400) and fat (80%) would end up in the right place. Dessert was a mini cheesecake muffin with whipped cream and a diet root beer HWC float, Poor poor me!

Poor baby