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Old 02-03-2010, 12:49 PM   #181
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Hi Laura,

Here I thought you had a threadjack boycott going due to all the CKD/Carb-Cycling/Calorie-Cycling discussion.

You have to do what works for you, and you seem to know what that is. Sometimes you have to put blinders on to the information overload and trust your own knowledge and instincts.

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Nah, Stack. I just haven't been online much the last few days. Personally, I think the carb & calorie cycling makes a lot of sense, and may just try that if "Plan B" doesn't get me where I want. It worked before, so I'm praying it'll work again. It just seems crazy to me to keep doing what's not working, you know?
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It just seems crazy to me to keep doing what's not working, you know?
I sure do. As a very smart guy named Einstein once said, "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:06 PM   #183
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Great quote from Einstein. I see a who gym full of insanee's lol..

New rules is an awesome book. ExRx (Exercise Prescription) on the Net is a great reference to TONS of exercise selections.

I used to train at 5 am.. the only think i can say is if you want to make it a habit, you will have to force yourself up and out of bed. It became normal for me and I feel better and stronger early. Im traing most often around late afternoon and im tired.

ultimately it's whatever you know you will do at that particular time.
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I workout @ home about 5am 6 days a week. This is the only time I have and I still have days I need to force myself out of bed and the odd day where I just don't get up .

Definitely you have to fake it till you make it (a habit).

Speaking of missing workouts didn't catch up yesterday mornings missed UB weights workout last night. But I was up for a steady state cardio workout with yoga/streching this morning (wasn't feelin' it for HIIT).
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30 minutes rebounding today - a nice fast-paced jog.

Hope everyone had a great Wednesday!
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:44 PM   #186
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Decided to add in the 20-minute Winsor Pilates w/o.

Just LOVE the energy this WOE gives me!! My 12-yr old neice told me the other day that I have energy like a kid now. Made my day!!
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However, my experience has been that whatever non-training factors (work, kids, etc., as opposed to being sore and not recovered from your previous workout) cause you to miss the planned session often bleed over into more than one day. Psychologically, the training session becomes an "event" as opposed to something you are supposed to do that day and approach in a workmanlike manner, and you keep putting it off until your rest, nutrition, or whatever create the optimal or perfect set of conditions for the workout. For me, this mindset often resulted in a 2-week hiatus and regression.
This!!
I have a list of things to accomplish this year, goals if you will. While it makes sense to have tangible goals, make 2 extra loan payments, be able to do 10 proper push ups etc. Working out can't be a goal it has to be something that gets done, like showering.

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Hey everyone, I'm trying to do a refeed day today - ala Lyle McDonald - and I'm struggling with it a bit. Oh the guilt! Well, I'll be okay. I'm trying to keep my extra carbs to good things like old-fashioned oatmeal, a little pineapple and some sweet potato. However, he says make them starchy carbs so I may (trying to talk myself into) have a regular burger with the bun.

Okay, did my workout because I'm about to go give blood and can't do it later.
Pilates & push-ups (girly-style) for warm-up
20 Squats @ 62 lbs
40 Bird Dogs
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Bench press - 8 @ 62 lbs / 15 @ 30 lbs. Gave me trouble today!
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got my UB weights workout done this morning (not re-posting details as it's the same workout still). Tossing up if I want to sneak a weigh-in tomorrow morning or wait until Monday. It's 50/50 that the Sat morning weigh-in will motivate me for the weekend or give me permission to relax ! Although I have a fairly busy weekend (thankfully not as manic as last weekend), which should make staying on-plan easier with little downtime for relaxing/eating.

I really need to make some time to do my full body measurements. I haven't done them in over 3 months, just been measuring my waist (which hasn't changed much ). I guess I should do relaxed & flexed muscles too so I can measure growth. Not going to have time 1st thing in the am, but that shouldn't matter for anything other than waist right?
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always do your measurements first thing.. food water extra can change your measurement.

Mayberry you dont have to eat bread for starchies.. there's rice, potato (white and swt) and all kinds of goodies that dont have to include wheat (many are sensitive)

I believe you are supposed to keep the fructose (fruit) on the low end.
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Thanks Ileen, I have always done that in the past just thinking of my schedule this weekend and not sure I'll have the extra 15min to do that in the morning . Maybe Sunday I'll set the alarm for 5:30 instead of 5:45 (which is a sleep in from during the week = 4:45am).
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Gave up my rest day today since a snow storm is coming and I most likely won't get to the gym again until Sunday or Monday. I kinda cheated on waiting a month to measure....looking for a new little black dress for a event and needed to measure to get an idea of if the dress I am interested in will fit....even though I haven't dropped weight, my waist and hip measurements were smaller...very encouraging!
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:52 PM   #193
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congrats Terra, gotta love lossing inches even if the scale being a !@($&!
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Just ordered the New Rules.

M and tomorrow- circuit training with trainer.

M and Today- spin class

Today- Bodyworks and Abs class (A weighted workout set to the rhythm of the music. This class improves overall strength and endurance through the use of dumbbells) I used 7.5 weights. It has high number of reps like 45. SUPER WORKOUT!
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Just ordered the New Rules.

M and tomorrow- circuit training with trainer.

M and Today- spin class

Today- Bodyworks and Abs class (A weighted workout set to the rhythm of the music. This class improves overall strength and endurance through the use of dumbbells) I used 7.5 weights. It has high number of reps like 45. SUPER WORKOUT!
Siggie, you spin? Don't you love it? Spinning has really helped me strengthen my low back/core and my legs are getting some awesome definition! What club do you take the classes at? I love the description of your Bodyworks/Abs class...I have to check Lifetime Fitness out to see if they have anything like it!
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I love spin class. Yes, it strengthens and defines. I spin at 24 Hour Fitness.

I also have taken the 24 lift class (highly efficient, full-body 24 Hour Fitness signature weight training workout that uses barbells and hand weights to strengthen and sculpt all muscle groups.) This class is also set to music.


I took the Bodyworks and Abs class at LA fitness.

Both classes use high reps low weight. (definitions of the classes came from the gyms not me)

When I lift on my own. I lift heavier weights low reps.
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Did weights yesterday so today was just rebounding for 30 minutes.

Btw - while giving blood yesterday I saw a lady I used to work with 3-4 years ago and she didn't even recognize me.
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did LB weights + HIIT + steady-state cardio, yoga & stretching (~2hr) this morning. As recommended in this thread I did the weights first, usually I do HIIT first. Managed 5 HIIT intervals at 60/30, then 10 @ 30/30. So I got the full 15 in even if they weren't all the longer ones .

Rest day tomorrow with dance instructor training in the afternoon. Enjoy your weekends everyone should 'see' you all Monday my time.
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Can I officially join this group? My trainer has me doing carb cycling these days, so I am thinking I fit into the "lifting and low carbing" category now.

I am currently at 25 percent body fat and my first goal is 20 percent, which I should meet sometime in March. I started at 34 percent in November, so I've seen many changes in my body so far. I am so ready to burn off the last 8-9 pounds of fat.

My trainer changes my plan weekly. This week, I'm doing a three day full body workout, with thirty minutes of low intensity walking on the treadmill after the full body workout. I'm getting stronger, which is really cool. Last night, I did chest presses with 20 pound dumbbells, and I couldn't lift those in the beginning.

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Weight training equals= Stronger and leaner

example.
8 months ago, I could not even do one push up. I did them either against the wall or on the floor with my stomach on the floor and me just pushing up my chest up- I could not do too many of these. Now I can do a 100 push ups (girlie style) or 50 inclined push ups.

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Yay for progress!!!

I've seen a great deal of progress since I started lifting weights, but I'm frustrated with not making as much progress in my upper body. I know women tend to have more lower body strength since mother nature knows we need it for birthin' babies. But, I want my upper body to catch up.

I ordered one of Lyle McDonald's books as Ileen suggested and it's interesting reading. I think I've been way under-eating protein and that may be part of my problem. So, the search continues for the right balance of nutrition and exercise!

The really good thing is: I'm more determined now than ever. In the past, I'd just give up. Now, I know I can reach my goals if I just keep working.
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Yay for progress!!!

I've seen a great deal of progress since I started lifting weights, but I'm frustrated with not making as much progress in my upper body. I know women tend to have more lower body strength since mother nature knows we need it for birthin' babies. But, I want my upper body to catch up.

I ordered one of Lyle McDonald's books as Ileen suggested and it's interesting reading. I think I've been way under-eating protein and that may be part of my problem. So, the search continues for the right balance of nutrition and exercise!

The really good thing is: I'm more determined now than ever. In the past, I'd just give up. Now, I know I can reach my goals if I just keep working.
Just a few things to keep in mind regarding your concerns -- and I'm not implying that you don't already know this. Just mentioning it for a reminder:

Nutrition: You want to build your body up, not tear it down, so that means consuming enuf cals to have enuf energy to train hard to build muscle -- and then burn fat. Specifically your post-workout nutrition is very critical. After your workouts is when you most want to get a blend of protein and carbs in because it saves the muscles from getting broken down for energy since you're STILL burning cals after you've finished working out. If you limit your body's ability to recover by skimping on post-workout nutrition, that will negatively impact your workouts.

I would suggest 1 gr protein per pound of body weight for starters, particularly insuring that you get a decent amount of lean protein (a rapid-absorbing protein shake post-workout is ideal) both before and after your workouts.



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This is very important. It changed my workouts when my trainer taught me this last November!
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Thanks for the tips! I do try to lift and lower at the same basic controlled rate. For a while I was doing the 10 counts up, 10 counts down thing but it got to be tedious.

I've been trying to let my appetite be my guide in how much to eat, but I definitely think I need to up my protein a bit, and cut back a little on fat. Today, prior to rebounding for 30 minutes, I had a large protein shake with 2 scoops of whey isolate (normally use only 1), 1/4 cup half and half, 1/3 cup egg beaters, cold water and nutmeg. Was delish! Tasted like egg nog. I let that settle for about 45 minutes to an hour and then did my rebounding. I just don't want to eat usually after working out, unless I do so on an empty stomach - which is not good, I know. I never lift weights on an empty stomach, but will rebound sometimes that way.

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I see many women at my gym who are lifting and lowering weights as fast as they possible can, and I used to use momentum quite a bit myself. I do 2-4-2 or sometimes 3-5-2, depending on how my consultant sets my workout that week.

My nutrition changes on a regular basis. My low carb days are set with a starting place of 1 gram of protein per body weight.

I only have three workouts this week (usually have four.)
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rebounding is not true hiit which you are hitting VO2max (meaning to exhaustion) .. its more intervalish and that doesnt really have to be fed immediately prior. It can even be done on an empty stomach if you really wanted.

Not to say you dont need eat a certain amt of food/protein..

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Great tips.

I usually take Bcaa before working out and L-Glutamine afterwards. I also Drink a protein drink afterwards (usually pure protein- 4 carbs/35 protein).
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rebounding is not true hiit which you are hitting VO2max (meaning to exhaustion) .. its more intervalish and that doesnt really have to be fed immediately prior. It can even be done on an empty stomach if you really wanted.

Not to say you dont need eat a certain amt of food/protein..
Sometimes when I rebound I will do intervals where I warm-up for 5 minutes, then jump as hard as I can for 1 minute, jog for 1 minute and then alternate for 20 minutes and then a slower jog to cool down for 5 minutes.

Today, I just did a basic jog with no full-out jumping. So, I know that wasn't a HITT workout.
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