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Old 07-06-2010, 07:04 AM   #1921
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Good UBWO last night... still upping my weights a bit just about every workout (inching up on certain sets) LBWO tomorrow. Then this week I'm going to pick new exercises to work the next six weeks.
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:02 AM   #1922
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so are you going to follow the no free meals for 14 days?

I have lower body today and some short intervals.. Likely waiting till the my oldest two kids pack up and leave. HIIT outside today, since i waiting (dumb) will be brutal!

YES! No cheats for 2 weeks. Im excited to see what it will do for me! I dont think I have ever gone 2 weeks with 100% DA LOL

YIKES! HIIT outside in GA July! Have fun with that At least you'll be doing short intervals.
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Hey everybody. Just checking in. I ate like crap over the weekend. Time to suck it up and eat clean.

Workouts are still great.

Has anybody on this thread read any of Lyle McDonald's books? I'm just curious. I'm always interested in new dietary reading. Ileen, I was thinking maybe you had mentioned Lyle before?

His books are a little pricey, so I will resist my urge to spend unless I hear some rave reviews.
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This weather is killing me. It hit 105 here today. Gym has little to no A/C. I lifted, did HIIT, and stretched. Now, I'm home, which also has little to no A/C. UGH!!!

Good luck on your two weeks Jaime!
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This weather is killing me. It hit 105 here today. Gym has little to no A/C. I lifted, did HIIT, and stretched. Now, I'm home, which also has little to no A/C. UGH!!!

Good luck on your two weeks Jaime!
OMG that sounds heinous! I'm so sorry for you. One of the reasons I got my gym membership the cardio room at my apt. complex has no noticeable AC. The heat just kills me! I'm such a wilting princess LOL.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:13 AM   #1926
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Hey everybody. Just checking in. I ate like crap over the weekend. Time to suck it up and eat clean.

Workouts are still great.

Has anybody on this thread read any of Lyle McDonald's books? I'm just curious. I'm always interested in new dietary reading. Ileen, I was thinking maybe you had mentioned Lyle before?

His books are a little pricey, so I will resist my urge to spend unless I hear some rave reviews.
yes, i have.. i have a few of them.. what are you looking for in particular.. They are worth every penny..
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:15 AM   #1927
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YES! No cheats for 2 weeks. Im excited to see what it will do for me! I dont think I have ever gone 2 weeks with 100% DA LOL

YIKES! HIIT outside in GA July! Have fun with that At least you'll be doing short intervals.
Im excited to see what happens for you too! The 100% DA is that just with since erik or prior to w/BFL as well?

im actually down in Destin/Florida this week at our beach condo... I ran hit yesterday outside.. was over cast so not bad.. I either do it early morning or late at night.
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yes, i have.. i have a few of them.. what are you looking for in particular.. They are worth every penny..
I was looking at the Ultimate Diet 2.0 - although I don't know if I fall into the 12% to 15% body fat range Lyle recommends before reading the book. My guess is I'm at least a little over 15% - if not more.

I was also thinking about the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook.

A Guide to Flexible Dieting looks kind of interesting, but if I had to buy just one book, it would be one of the two aforementioned, based on what I think I would gain the most knowledge from.
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those are all awesome choices.
my friend did ud2 a wee bit 'fatter' than recommended with great choices.. tough workouts/training and you have to be consistent with it.

Flexible dieting should be in everyone's library!
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Im excited to see what happens for you too! The 100% DA is that just with since erik or prior to w/BFL as well?

im actually down in Destin/Florida this week at our beach condo... I ran hit yesterday outside.. was over cast so not bad.. I either do it early morning or late at night.
LOL, Since my 4th week of BFL to now.. I just figured, heck, if I can still lose inches while having cheats than go for it! Bad mentally. Need to convert. Even though with all my cheats Erik doesn't say anything about it, so I just continued
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those are all awesome choices.
my friend did ud2 a wee bit 'fatter' than recommended with great choices.. tough workouts/training and you have to be consistent with it.

Flexible dieting should be in everyone's library!
Ileen, is RFL just a more strict version of UD2? I'm having a hard time comparing and contrasting them. It seems like both are geared towards sparing muscle and fairly fast fat loss, although my understanding is that RFL is more restrictive...

Is there one that you would suggest more than the other? Is one "easier" physically? Is one easier mathematically (with counting macros)?

Anyway, any help you can give is appreciated. I guess I can sign up for Lyle's forum and pick some brains. I looked around and didn't find the info I was looking for.

I really don't want to screw up my strength gains, but I'm willing to pause my strength increases to lean out a little to maybe lose 7 to 10 lbs more fat before the summer is over.
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flexible diet is the most versitile. it shows y ou a few ways to moderate a diet.

RFL is basically JUST Low/nf protein, veggies and fish oils with a free meal and refeed built into it.. full explanation of wts and amts to eat.. This plan is very strict..
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Rick, I e-mailed Lyle about the Rapid Fat Loss book. He didn't advise it for me since I'm so close to my goal. He suggested I get the Flexible Diet book instead. I still haven't purchased either one of them, but maybe you should e-mail him and ask for his opinion.

Jamie, I am interested to see what your results are when you let Erik do his job. *teasing*
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Rick, I e-mailed Lyle about the Rapid Fat Loss book. He didn't advise it for me since I'm so close to my goal. He suggested I get the Flexible Diet book instead. I still haven't purchased either one of them, but maybe you should e-mail him and ask for his opinion.

Jamie, I am interested to see what your results are when you let Erik do his job. *teasing*
HA!!! I know right! Things work well for me if I let them. I go through cycles of resistance, and cycles of submission. I dont know WHAT the heck I call this one!
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Dang it! I am yet to get in a good workout this week! I get to the gym and feel ok, until I start to lift. Then I get dizzy, my legs go numb and I break out into sweats. Yesterday I had palpitations all day and I felt out of breath.
I am having some stress lately. My health worries me and other factors have decided to sneak in there as well. TOO much on my plate. I am someone who can deal with one stress at a time.. anymore than that I freak out.

As my Good Friend ELMER FUDD says.. I just need some "West and Wewaxation"
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Hi all!! I stumbled upon this thread while trying to determine whether or not to do the BFL program. I am not a thin person, so I'm not really sure where to start. I have done the LC WOE before and have been successful, and now I want to get to the next level of being physically fit and lose more weight/inches. I saw some of Jami's pics, and WOW!! what arms!! I just need input...I'm one who typically can set my mind to something and accomplish what I put my mind to, but only if I see results....if not, I lose hope !! Anyway, just thought it would benefit me to stop by and drop a few lines and get advise from those who have obviously had astounding results!! Any advise is greatly appreciated!!
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HI Lowar, thank you!
Body for life is a great program! I would definitely start with that, and stay with it. So many people have had such great luck with it. I'd get the book and go for it. The best part about it is that it gives you the guidelines to get you going, and with most people, including me, need that
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Hi all!! I stumbled upon this thread while trying to determine whether or not to do the BFL program. I am not a thin person, so I'm not really sure where to start. I have done the LC WOE before and have been successful, and now I want to get to the next level of being physically fit and lose more weight/inches. I saw some of Jami's pics, and WOW!! what arms!! I just need input...I'm one who typically can set my mind to something and accomplish what I put my mind to, but only if I see results....if not, I lose hope !! Anyway, just thought it would benefit me to stop by and drop a few lines and get advise from those who have obviously had astounding results!! Any advise is greatly appreciated!!
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flexible diet is the most versitile. it shows y ou a few ways to moderate a diet.

RFL is basically JUST Low/nf protein, veggies and fish oils with a free meal and refeed built into it.. full explanation of wts and amts to eat.. This plan is very strict..

I really like flexible too-good read. I am following advice from it and it is working for me-meet my daily calorie and protein goals and let the rest of the macros fall where they may. Be prepared if you go to his Monkey Island Forum-it is definitely not a touchy feely place.
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I really like flexible too-good read. I am following advice from it and it is working for me-meet my daily calorie and protein goals and let the rest of the macros fall where they may. Be prepared if you go to his Monkey Island Forum-it is definitely not a touchy feely place.
Is Monkey Island different from Bodyrecomp?
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Hey, can I join? I'm not on any particular exercise program other than my own routine, but am on day 2 of re-inducting for GOOD.

My workout is -

Stationary bike - just started this, so levels are not very high, but 10 minutes gets my legs feeling like lead! Whooo!

Weights are all 3 sets of 15 reps.

Upper body - butterfly machine, 35 lbs.
Free wt. 12# lawnmowers
Tricep pulldowns 40#
Lat pulldowns 40#
Now I don't know the formal name for this machine. You set a padded bar up high, hook your leg over it and push back, then you use it for inside and outside thighs. Anyway, I'm at 50# there. Again, 3 sets of 15 reps. Makes for a really nice tush.
Just started doing a machine for hamstrings at a very low weight.
Some sort of ab crunch machine - 50# for 100 reps.

I have NO idea if I'm still a weakling, or pretty strong. Any comments?

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I really like flexible too-good read. I am following advice from it and it is working for me-meet my daily calorie and protein goals and let the rest of the macros fall where they may. Be prepared if you go to his Monkey Island Forum-it is definitely not a touchy feely place.
Thanks Rachel, Ileen, and others, for the help regarding Lyle's books.

Does anybody know if the Flex. dieting book covers muscle sparing/ exercising while dieting?
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I believe this is Lyle's no holds barred forum - his "mean forum".
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Hey, can I join? I'm not on any particular exercise program other than my own routine, but am on day 2 of re-inducting for GOOD.

My workout is -

Stationary bike - just started this, so levels are not very high, but 10 minutes gets my legs feeling like lead! Whooo!

Weights are all 3 sets of 15 reps.

Upper body - butterfly machine, 35 lbs.
Free wt. 12# lawnmowers
Tricep pulldowns 40#
Lat pulldowns 40#
Now I don't know the formal name for this machine. You set a padded bar up high, hook your leg over it and push back, then you use it for inside and outside thighs. Anyway, I'm at 50# there. Again, 3 sets of 15 reps. Makes for a really nice tush.
Just started doing a machine for hamstrings at a very low weight.
Some sort of ab crunch machine - 50# for 100 reps.

I have NO idea if I'm still a weakling, or pretty strong. Any comments?
Welcome. I'm not sure what that "nice tush" machine is...

How long have you been working out? What are your goals?
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I started at the end of March, and was doing really well until mid-May when lots of life's little issues got in the way - working late, yadda yadda. I'm back at it now, although my numbers aren't quite what they were back in May.

Here's a picture of the machine I'm talking about, this one is more "modern" than the one I use, but same idea:



Goals are to tighten up - between low carbing and lifting, I'd like to get some kind of definition. More stamina. My left knee has been busted twice, so more strength/less pain there. Not looking to get into bodybuilding competitively, but just want to look good, and to me that includes definition.
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I started at the end of March, and was doing really well until mid-May when lots of life's little issues got in the way - working late, yadda yadda. I'm back at it now, although my numbers aren't quite what they were back in May.

Here's a picture of the machine I'm talking about, this one is more "modern" than the one I use, but same idea:



Goals are to tighten up - between low carbing and lifting, I'd like to get some kind of definition. More stamina. My left knee has been busted twice, so more strength/less pain there. Not looking to get into bodybuilding competitively, but just want to look good, and to me that includes definition.

I don't use that machine but I think its popularly called the donkey kick LOL.

I'm no expert on weight lifting but I think I'd be looking for a program where I hit failure at some point in my reps. If you're doing all three sets x15 at the same weight I assume you achieve them all succesfully? To me that would be time to up the weight on at least the last set.
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It's kinda my goal to up the lbs once a week. I'm getting a pretty good workout as it is, without feeling like I'm going to be hurting (much)! Saturday is my increase day.
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Hey everyone - I am back from vacation.

Yes running does help lean my legs out and I have been doing more of that and walking on a high incline. My diet was half clean and half bad in Memphis this past week. I have a sweet tooth and had pecan pie and sweet potato pie. But I went back to the gym right away when I got home yesterday. I ate clean yesterday and of course will continue.

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Kisha - While I've looked around at other gyms, it would cost around double the price we're paying now if we change gyms. The gym we go to now is VERY basic (no locker rooms, no showers, etc). But it has everything we need at an affordable price.

Matt - You sound like me with not wanting to sacrifice strength gains.

Jaime - Hope you're okay. Is it the stress or something more?

Ayana - Welcome back! How was vacation?

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I'm off to try to cool off a bit before dance tonight.
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Kisha - While I've looked around at other gyms, it would cost around double the price we're paying now if we change gyms. The gym we go to now is VERY basic (no locker rooms, no showers, etc). But it has everything we need at an affordable price.

Matt - You sound like me with not wanting to sacrifice strength gains.

Jaime - Hope you're okay. Is it the stress or something more?

Ayana - Welcome back! How was vacation?

Welcome new people!!!
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Another hot one here today. Still lifted. PR'ed on the bench. It's pathetic so I won't mention it. It's annoying knowing I could be lifting so much more if it wasn't for this ganglion cyst.

I'm off to try to cool off a bit before dance tonight.
well hang in there then girl!
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