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Old 01-22-2010, 10:35 AM   #61
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Have you read the articles about chocolate milk being the perfect after workout recovery drink? Very interesting-I like Alan Aragon's articles no bs.

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Old 01-22-2010, 10:41 AM   #62
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I have heard about that. I had a trainer that told me to eat a banana and 8oz of chocolate milk after a work out. It was also a good recovery for races that I ran. Now, its a little too high on the carb ladder for me since I'm still in weight loss mode.
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The chocolate milk issue raises an important point for me. In the interest of full disclosure, I want to say that while I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about supplements and their use and like to share that knowledge, I have pretty much abandoned their use, other than creatine (I take multivitamins/minerals and fish oil, but I consider those "nutritional insurance" and not "supplements" in the sense we have been using the word). I usually train caffeinated on an empty stomach and eat real food post-workout.

I was a supplement junkie at one time and have wasted thousands of dollars on them throughout my lifting/training career. Most supplements are crap. Except for competitive natural bodybuilders and other athletes close to their genetic potential looking for that 1% extra edge, there is, in my opinion, little that supplements provide that can't be obtained by simply eating good food and drinking a couple of cups of strong coffee before a tough workout.

Just to be clear, protein powder does not fall into the "crap" category. I choose to just eat real food post-workout because I got sick of drinking shakes, can't stand the way my digestive system deals with them, and don't see any real difference in performance or physique enhancement. YMMV, and there are lots of quality proteins out there that are useful and beneficial.

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Wow. I'm feeling shakey! Upped my weights and I can REALLY feel it!

Venuto's workout B
Warm-up - arm circles, trunk twists, push-ups & lunges
8 deadlifts @ 62 lbs (up 10 lbs)
6 shoulder presses @ 50 lbs (up 10 lbs - VERY hard!)
30 hip extentions
6 pullovers @ 50 lbs. (had FAILURE on the last one!)
30 rev crunch
30 cross knee crunch
6 curls (each side) 25 lbs (up 5 lbs)
12 tricep extentions (10 lbs each hand)
15 planks @ 10 counts each

Menu today
Breakfast
2 large coffee w/ liquid splenda and half & half
2 eggs boiled, mashed and mixed with 1 T mayo
1 sausage patty
1 LC Joseph's flax wrap w/ 1 T butter

lunch
Protein shake (b4 w/o) - turned out REALLY yummy!
1 scoop whey isolate
2 tsp safflower oil
1/3 cup each egg beaters, half & half, & cold water
nutmeg for eggnog flavor

snack
1 oz mozzarella cheese

dinner
LC meatloaf
salad
2 large 1/2 caf. coffees w/ liquid splenda and half & half

I *may* do some rebounding later. Happy Friday all!
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Celeste. Thanks! I have been LCing for about 4 months now. I didn't have an significant weight loss for a while. I just noticed it right when I started implementing the NO shotgun. I did buy some biotin today though! How much do you take??
Please forgive me if this is a super dumb question but what does NO shotgun mean??
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The chocolate milk issue raises an important point for me. In the interest of full disclosure, I want to say that while I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about supplements and their use and like to share that knowledge, I have pretty much abandoned their use, other than creatine (I take multivitamins/minerals and fish oil, but I consider those "nutritional insurance" and not "supplements" in the sense we have been using the word). I usually train caffeinated on an empty stomach and eat real food post-workout.

I was a supplement junkie at one time and have wasted thousands of dollars on them throughout my lifting/training career. Most supplements are crap. Except for competitive natural bodybuilders and other athletes close to their genetic potential looking for that 1% extra edge, there is, in my opinion, little that supplements provide that can't be obtained by simply eating good food and drinking a couple of cups of strong coffee before a tough workout.

Just to be clear, protein powder does not fall into the "crap" category. I choose to just eat real food post-workout because I got sick of drinking shakes, can't stand the way my digestive system deals with them, and don't see any real difference in performance or physique enhancement. YMMV, and there are lots of quality proteins out there that are useful and beneficial.

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Old 01-22-2010, 01:27 PM   #67
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Thanks Lisabinil. Right back at'cha.
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Please forgive me if this is a super dumb question but what does NO shotgun mean??
Thats not dumb, LOL NO stands for Nitric Oxide, I think. Shotgun is just the name the manufacture liked. It was a pre workout drink, that gives you A LOT of energy, it has creatine, whey and cassein protein in it.
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Found out tonight that it REALLY pays to look and learn before you leap. I was out running errands yesterday and was ALL ready to buy some BCAA supplements, but didn't find what I was looking for. The stuff I saw online was fairly pricey, too.

Anyway, after Stack told me it was probably in the whey that I use, I looked. And guess what?? It is! I have kind of been looking at protein shakes as something of a treat and to be used for convenience. Not any more. Will definitely be working them into my daily routine.

Yeah!!! I love a GOOD discovery!
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Circuit training training today with the trainer and 1 hour of cardio. Feeling pumped!
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I managed to get in a good 30 minute jog on the rebounder after dinner.

And, I'm the girl who used to HATE exercise. Go figure!
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Found out tonight that it REALLY pays to look and learn before you leap. I was out running errands yesterday and was ALL ready to buy some BCAA supplements, but didn't find what I was looking for. The stuff I saw online was fairly pricey, too.

Anyway, after Stack told me it was probably in the whey that I use, I looked. And guess what?? It is! I have kind of been looking at protein shakes as something of a treat and to be used for convenience. Not any more. Will definitely be working them into my daily routine.

Yeah!!! I love a GOOD discovery!
Same here! LOL Darn. Oh well, Im sure i'll still use it though and so will DH. I cant hurt right. LOL
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Stats for Friday
No exercise
1494 calories
13/11 carbs

3 days split, 4 days on 3 days off (while Im working)

Have a great day everyone!
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Friday, January 22nd

Brunch - scrambled eggs with ham, cheese, onions & peppers
Dinner - cube steak (no breading, but fried) with broccoli & cauliflower
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Wasn't really hungry yesterday, so I only managed to get in two meals. Meh, I'm not worried about it, as clearly I'm not going to waste away because of it! I've been doing NMTZ for 3 weeks now, and I still can't believe how Jillian can get my heart rate up so high on this one with just 3# DBs! It's because she keeps things rolling, and doesn't give you a break, but still...
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Good Morning Muscle heads!

Today is my last day at work until MY "weekend" YES! LOL Im going to the DR tomorrow to get some blood work done. Dispit my continuous efforts of weight loss, nothing happens. I have a 600 deficit, but healthy calorie level, and I work out, no losses to speak of, Just a 1 pound gain this morning. This is how my 4 months has looked so far. Lose 2 pounds, gain 2 pounds, stall. Lose 2 pounds, gain 2 pounds, stall, and repeat. Sigh, I hope that she orders all the appropriate lab work. If there is nothing wrong than I dont know what to do. I dont want to settle. I KNOW that I can reach my goal weight, just not by 1000 calories a day.

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Hi everyone! I hope you all had a great day!
Here are my stats for Sunday

Calories 1755
carbs 22/17

no exercise, tomorrow its ON!!! I just love Monday's!!
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I so don't get time on-line over the weekends!! Life is just very busy and about to get busier!!!

Saturday I did LB weight workout with 11kg dumbbells again. I've spent the whole weekend sore, both upper & lower body from increasing my weights last week . Upper body is fine today, legs still a little sore.

Sunday no formal exercise just dance instructor training in the afternoon, maybe 1hr all together. Nothing yet today as I was catching up on sleep this morning (and it's TOM too so extra tired, etc. ). Hoping to get a workout in this afternoon but haven't decided if it'll be lifting or HIIT.
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Good MOrning! I just got back home from the gym
Just an ok work out. I was tired and really had to push myself
each work out I did 3 sets 12,10,8
bicep curls
bent over rows
cable crossovers
dumbbell incline bench
military press,
lateral raises
skull crushers

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Got in a good w/o yesterday, just didn't have time to post!!

Venuto's workout B
warm-up
dead-lifts - 10 @ 62 lbs.
shoulder press - 10 @ 40 lbs
hip ext - 30
rev crunch - 30
cross-knee crunch 20 ea. side
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tri-extentions - 15 @20 lbs.
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Oh lawrd!

I thought I'd made a lot of progress with all the lifting I've been doing.

Maybe not.

I did 40 minutes of Windsor Pilates tonight - some of it I couldn't do - and it KICKED my butt!

Not going to stop lifting, but I think I need to keep doing Pilates.
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Cleleste. LOL I did Windsor Pilates a while back and I thought I was going to throw up! It kicked my but too! I thought the same thing "Man, I thought I was in better shape than this!"
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Not sure about my nutrition yesterday. I cheated, a lot. LOL that will be my high cycle day LOL

Still holding at 140.0 this morning... weird since I went off plan yesterday.. Oh well. I wont tell the scale if you wont.
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Oh lawrd!

I thought I'd made a lot of progress with all the lifting I've been doing.

Maybe not.

I did 40 minutes of Windsor Pilates tonight - some of it I couldn't do - and it KICKED my butt!

Not going to stop lifting, but I think I need to keep doing Pilates.
Celeste,

You may be interested in this excerpt from one of my BCC posts:

I did my single-set Push-Up test late Saturday afternoon. Whether it was going to be to complete failure or not was going to be determined by whether I hit a certain number I had in mind - 70. I did hit 70 clean and called it a success with a few reps left in the tank.

I was pleased with this, but not ecstatic. It's taking me longer than I thought to bring up my muscular enduance. There's a general consensus in strength training theory that while training for muscular endurance does little for absolute strength, training for absolute strength does have some carryover to increasing muscular endurance. I've learned that this has its limitations. Developing a particular aspect of strength requires specificity of training. Training for a 1RM Bench for years will pretty much guarantee you can do a respectable number of Push-Ups, but that only goes so far. Getting to the Century mark requires a lot of time and effort moving up and down in the front leaning rest position.


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Just got back from the gym.
40 minutes 3.8 miles of jogging, sprinting and recovering.

Goblet Plia... Plea. p lay lol. 3 sets 25/15, 25/15, 25/15

Stiff legged dead lift........3 sets 50/15, 60/12, 70/10

leg extension.......3 sets 85/10, 100/10, 115/6

leg curls..........3 sets 100/15. 100/15. 115/6

standing calf raises..........3 sets 30/15

leg raises............ 3 sets 13

crunches.........3 sets 15

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Good job Stack! I'm glad that you met the number that you were expecting! You seem like someone who is very determined to be the best at what you are capable of. Even though I am only 32, I have noticed that somethings take me longer to achieve than they used to. Last spring I was running 5-8 miles with sprint intervals thrown in there every 5 minutes. I could cool down from my sprint with a slow jog, and then increase to my normal jog. Now... its taking me longer. LOL I can only do 3- 4 miles, and I have to speed walk after my sprint interval to get back into my jog again. Oh, well. I just started back to the gym 3 weeks ago, I'll give it some time and be more patient.
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Oh lawrd!

I thought I'd made a lot of progress with all the lifting I've been doing.

Maybe not.

I did 40 minutes of Windsor Pilates tonight - some of it I couldn't do - and it KICKED my butt!

Not going to stop lifting, but I think I need to keep doing Pilates.
Don't even think about comparing the two, Mayberry, as they're totally different. IMO bodyweight exercises can be more difficult than those you do with dumbbells. I can squat with heavy weights till the cows come home, but make me do them on my toes with just my bodyweight, and I'm toast after just a few!

Sunday was my rest day and Monday was Shred #1 & Shred #2 with 3 & 5# DBs.
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