Ketosis / glucose level in insulin dependent

[patricesue]

Hi to all the insulin dependents out there
offer your tips from your own experience, please

I have been on the diet for 4 days.
I have been perfectly compliant - (no cheating, right amount water, etc.)
I'm only "trace" ketosis on the stick

I'm having a bit of trouble getting my glucose level down
I was told to cut my insulin intake because
Hey - I'm eating about 1/6 of what I used to (big smile)

I test my blood 6 times a day (ugh lol)
it is high (180's to 200)

So my question:
when you started this diet - did your glucose level go up?
As I understood it - ketosis happens when glucose level is lower
which might explain my only trace level.

And I thought that running HIGH glucose would cause the dreaded ketoacidosis (different than the desired ketosis) because of the acid/ph situation with that.

I read "when insulin levels are high, the body stores fat quite easily and may convert carbohydrates or proteins into adipose (stored fat). Also, lipolysis (dissolving fat) is nearly blocked in the presence of insulin."

So if I take more insulin - won't that inhibit the ketosis process?

OR do I just have it backward:
1) is the ketosis from lowering glucose (so taking more insulin is necessary)
OR
2) is the ketosis from less insulin in the body? (therefore, should diabetics be running high)


Any tips, gang?

PS-I LOVE the clinic I go to, but was told to "experiment" on my own with my insulin intake.
I gather this new clinic hasn't had much experience with diabetics.

I'll be calling my doctor tomorrow - but appreciate the first hand experiences.

[McBoo]

Originally Posted by patricesue

Hi to all the insulin dependents out there
offer your tips from your own experience, please

I have been on the diet for 4 days.
I have been perfectly compliant - (no cheating, right amount water, etc.)
I'm only "trace" ketosis on the stick

I'm having a bit of trouble getting my glucose level down
I was told to cut my insulin intake because
Hey - I'm eating about 1/6 of what I used to (big smile)

I test my blood 6 times a day (ugh lol)
it is high (180's to 200)

So my question:
when you started this diet - did your glucose level go up?
As I understood it - ketosis happens when glucose level is lower
which might explain my only trace level.

And I thought that running HIGH glucose would cause the dreaded ketoacidosis (different than the desired ketosis) because of the acid/ph situation with that.

I read "when insulin levels are high, the body stores fat quite easily and may convert carbohydrates or proteins into adipose (stored fat). Also, lipolysis (dissolving fat) is nearly blocked in the presence of insulin."

So if I take more insulin - won't that inhibit the ketosis process?

OR do I just have it backward:
1) is the ketosis from lowering glucose (so taking more insulin is necessary)
OR
2) is the ketosis from less insulin in the body? (therefore, should diabetics be running high)


Any tips, gang?

PS-I LOVE the clinic I go to, but was told to "experiment" on my own with my insulin intake.
I gather this new clinic hasn't had much experience with diabetics.

I'll be calling my doctor tomorrow - but appreciate the first hand experiences.

Patricesue,

I would definatly contact your doctor as soon as you can and see what they say. The plan may not be right for you or may need to be adjusted for your situation.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

McBoo

[patricesue]

I am, mcboo, but I was looking for personal experiences of people who might be insulin dependent on the plan.

[Jeffery's girl]

Hey Pat, When I started medi my blood sugar was checking 150 to 180 and in Dec checked as high as 299. Now it is 100 to 105 when I get up in the morning! I do not take insulin or pills but I know I would have been if not for Medi. This WOE will not cause your blood sugar to rise. I rarely go under 4.0 ketosis and feel very good!

[patricesue]

Hi Jeffrey'sgirl,
Thanks for the info

I'm hoping to get some insulin dependent info

hugs