VINTAGE MAINTAINERS TGIF CLELEBRATION

[zip2play]

Good morning everybody,

Hmm, depression...where does it come from? For me usually from short days and rarely needs a trigger. THIS time it was from my incompetent doctor blowing my Lp(a) test thus negating 3 weeks of heavy drinking, now I don;t know what to do, and my life is on the line here...PLUS the root-canal-post and crown decision (to ignore or save). Every tooth is a step towards death.
SO this gloom was actually brought about by CONDITIONS (abetted by the depression of booze.) It passed quickly and am pretty level-mooded yesterday...jolly even. Quite unlike the 3 weeks of SAD in the middle of winter.
Oh, I'm researching Dental Teaching Universities (NYU and Rutger's)

Linda,
Welcome back...I was getting worried because you had expected to leave Monday. I'm glad you had a nice time. Please send me a list of the NYC GP's from the Best Doctors...a half dozen should do the trick. Wild horses,eh?

Shawnee and everyone.
FYI on any future drug buys:

http://www.drugstore.com/pharmacy/pr...201&trx=1Z5006
I ALWAYS go there first (by just putting the drug name in SEARCH)...it's the best retail drug site in the U.S.A.
From the tests you are getting none really seems geared towards that allergy problem.
The way my insurance (HMO) works is that Oxford negotiates prices with ALL pharmacies and amazingly it's almost EXACTLY the drugstore.com price...then I pay HALF. So on that $68 Actonel (what a ripoff) I'd pay $34 no matter where I buy it. The site also takes any doubt away and you can arm yourself with prices BEFORE a doctor's visit.
Thanks for the allergy link...good info.

Ginny,
I haven't slept til 11 AM for 30 years...even a sleeping pill won't kep me in bed past 8 (and THAT'S rare.)

Loretta,
The plants look ready for the garden. Are they HEIRLOOMS? What kind?

Nuts,
Bob working ALL the month of May...nuts. But the way NY Unemployment works your amount is based on your BEST quarter in the last 5...So working like a madman the second quarter this year will get him a good rate on the claim that begins in July '06 (the July '05 claim was qualified for last Spring.)

I toyed with a car yesterday...but the owner wanted too much for a FAB car but with too many miles (160,000)...it was a 1991 Caddie Brougham in showroom shape. But Blue Book is $2,500 and we'd have paid that...he wanted $6,000 . Just as well because in days of $3 gas who needs a 5.7 Liter engine. He's going to won that car a MIGHTY long time.
Don't laugh:

Gee, THE GODFATHER could get three bodies in that trunk!

A nice weekend all.

Everybody,
Enjoy the weekend...some iffy weather here.

[BarbCO]

Morning folks....

Zee, I don't know Zip. Three bodies yes, but the windows need to be tinted and the paint job - black!!

All of things you mentioned would cause ANYONE to be depressed. As long as you see a light at the end of the tunnel, you are are ok.

Glad you had a good time Linda. I was getting worried that you had decided to become a beach bum and give up the good life in the frosty NE.

Meds are probably THE number one problem with anyone over 50! I used to rely on a pharmacist to tell me everything I needed to know and now sites like the one you posted Zip, give us a lot of information. Actually, just put your meds into a search and you find out more than you wanted to know.

Loretta, I did get the picture of your plants - look very good and healthy. Planting this weekend?

Hi to everyone to follow...... need to get outside for a walk before it rains!

Barb

[LoveMontana]

Good morning everyone and thanks for the welcome back posts yesterday.


Roger, Glad to hear the depression is better today. Geezzzz! It must be awful to go through that.
Can you have your Cardiologist order the blood work? After all, it's his field of specialization and it would seem that your insurance company would be fine with it. Give him a call and see.
I'll dig my book out and either e mail you a list or call. It might be easier to call but then again, an e mail would be printable.

LOVE the car but you and Bob would both have to work full time to keep that gas tank full.

Barb, the idea of becoming a beach bum crossed my mind many times. I'm still thinking about it. LOL
Hope you get that walk in before the rain hits.

I'm off to stock up on groceries and just wander around.
Back later.

[shawneesioux]

Hi Y'all

Montana, welcome back into the Fold
Hehee...just can't see you as a beach bum...you'd get bored, and resort to scrubbing and bleaching the sand and driftwood

Barb, hope ya beat the rain I was dx'd with acute depression in early 70's...Dr put me on Valium...crap, I turned into a zombie, and the kindest thing my then- husband ever did for me was flush those pills. After I divorced him, amazingly, the depression was gone!

Loretta...don't know what's up with your Tom cuties pic...at first, it presented as a red X...later, the pic came in perfectly! Be proud, Momma Hen...good job!

Zip, sure glad you have made a turn around with the mood. Those ol' Caddies ride like floating on a cloud.
Will you be doing a lot of gym time in Bob's absence?

About the tests...well, let's go back a bit: I was basically treated successfully for HypoT for over 10 years, but over the last year, most of the symptoms have recurred as my immune system has changed.
Here's mine, in Boldface...I feel I can't get the hives under control until the underlying thyroid imbalance is corrected.

(GAWD, I sound like a hypochondriac with the list below, but none the less, it is what it is)




Fatigue, exhaustion, depression, moodiness, sadness, difficulty concentrating, difficulty remembering, sensitivity to cold, cold hands and feet, inappropriate weight changes (up and down), dry, tangled or coarse hair, and hair loss, especially from the outer part of the eyebrow, brittle fingernails, muscle and joint pains, aches and weakness, tendinitis of arms and legs, carpal tunnel syndrome, plantars fascitis - sole of the foot pain, swelling or puffiness of eyes, face, arms or legs, heart palpitations, low sex drive, infertility, recurrent miscarriages, irregular menstrual periods, ultra low cholesterol, or high cholesterol levels, especially when it’s unresponsive to diet and medication, worsening allergies, itching, prickly hot skin, rashes, hives (urticaria), panic attacks, anxiety attacks, chronic infections, including yeast infections, oral fungus, thrush, and sinus infections, shortness of breath, difficulty drawing a full breath, constipation, neck feels full or sensitive, raspy, hoarse voice

......................

July 19, 2004
Hives Linked to Autoimmune Thyroid Disease
Research reported on in the journal Dermatology found that the frequency of thyroid autoantibodies is significantly higher in patients with chronic urticaria (hives) than in healthy controls. In the study, all the patients with thyroid autoantibodies had so-called "normal" test results. Researchers concluded that there is a significant association between chronic urticaria and thyroid autoimmunity, but only the thyroid antibody tests are relevant in patients with chronic urticaria, versus thyroid function tests.

.........My Doc was just doing the basic function tests; hells bells, I need the antibody ones.

Hey to everyone, have a super and content Firday.

Shawnee

[Loretta V]

Linda's back. I was beginning to worry Linda. Glad you had a wonderful time with your family and being on vacation. LOL I love that: I'm off to stock up on groceries and just wander around. That just wander around sounds like a grand idea.

Zip that caddy sure looks to be in exellent shape for that 1991. I like the house it is sitting in front of even better. Maybe he is in the Mafia. They are slowly getting them rounded up there in Chicago. Glad to hear that you are getting JOLLY again and your depression has waned.

Yes Barb I sure hope to get those kids in the ground this week end. The forecast is for warm days and sunshine for the next 5 days or so. Today might be the day.

Going to get Leah from day care today. My DS and DIL are moving her mother from a extended care facility in Nashville to Princeton, KY. She will be a lot closer now and at the home town she is from. What a nice Mother's day present for her. I'm glad too that Brittany will get more visits in with her real grandmother.

Hi Chris, good to see you posting over here. Isn't time for you to be a maintainer? You sure have lots of weights listed on your sig. progressively getting lower.

Shawnee that is quite a list. I think you are the one that should claim that depression. Zip's list is not nearly as long as yours. Sure hope they can come up with some concrete answers and do the right tests too.
When do you see the doc again?

Later folks,
Loretta

[SuSUN]

Good Friday!

Just wanted to check in, been staying at DD's while her DH was in Boston for a few days. He returns today.

Waving to y'all!

SuSUN

[Jewels]

My Gawd Shawnee, I can't believe you are still upright and walking around. Poor sweetie!! So when are you going to the Dr. for those tests so we can get you better. Those hives are positively giving me the Itch's just thinking about them. Hope you get some answers real soon.
Don't Valium and zombie go together???????? I took it too back in the 70's. Wonderful drug if you don't care whats going on around you!!

So glad to see you back Linda. We missed you...
I can just see you scrubbing and bleaching the sand and driftwood like Shawnee said. I think I could be a beach bum!!

Barb, thanks for prodding me back in here. Hope you got the walk in but hey, nothing like walking in the rain. I don't mind a bit but it has to start AFTER I start walking or I'd never get out there if it had already started!

Loretta, enjoy Leah today. What a nice Mother's Day present for your DIL mom! Tomato plants look very healthy. What kind are they? Here in the northwest we usually do best with Early Girl or Sweet 100's for cherry tomatoes.

My day to clean....did I say that? Jeez...I hate days like this. It's gloomy to boot! My 2 sons and 2 DGKids will be here tomorrow for an early dinner. Sunday we are going to Ann's, our DD for an early BBQ and maybe miniature golf if it doesn't rain. Best get dressed and get busy. Didn't get up til 9:00 and then had to drag myself out...sheets changed and in the wash...how about that for an early start?

[zip2play]

Psst,

That was a SAMPLE 1991 Brougham...Barb and Loretta, the one for sale IS black with tinted windows without a mark...Maybe I should: http://www.moviesounds.com/godfathr/offer.wav In truth, 160K miles is just TOOO much and the repairs on a boat like that don't come cheap.

Whew,
Shawnee,
Diagnosis from those symptoms is going to be tough sledding indeed. I'd start with ANA (anti-Nuclear antibidues). Then IF it's high you go with all the autoimmune antibody tests like Anti-dsDNA, anti-ssDNA, anti SSA, SSB, anticardiolipin, antihistones...about 10 of these bizarros (I did many of them to rule out lupus.) But the whole passle of them tells a lot about about rheumatoid arthritis, CREST syndrome, Sjogren's, Scleroderma, Subcutaneous SLE, MCTD (mixed connective tissue disease)...and many more JUST as fun.

A negative (low) ANA will eliminate a lot of possible suspects, and make the extensive testing much less needy but something higher than 1:160 will be be suspect 9I GOT A 1:320 AND WENT WHITE! (and pattern of cells is important too.) Unfortunately an infection alone could raise the ANA temporarily so it's not diagnosttic by itself.
(Have you had one done in recent memory? It's common if one compains of joint pain.)

LOTS of gym for me this month

Susun, Linda, Ginny, keep on truckin'.

[zip2play]

Julie,

HI, I guess we were typing at close to the same time and I didn't see you come in. I think Valium is the best drug ever created for dispelling anxiety...and anxiety is probably the single thing the world would be best without! Valium helps me "accentualte the positive and eliminate the negative."
The only thing that keeps me from taking it every day of my life is the fear that overuse will make it useless...so I do about 60 X 10 mg. over a year. Retail on that is about $15.

The only reason they came out with "better" anxiety meds is because the patent on the Valium ran out and to the drug industry BETTER means $$COSTLIER$$...they ignore the fact that the NEW drugs cause suicide and mania...but they DO cost a couple bucks a pill$$$$$$$, so what's a few thousand deaths.

[shawneesioux]

back again, am I addicted to this BB ?

Hey Loretta, have a lot of fun with Leah What are her words now? SO cute, bet she is a Daddy's Girl.
Moving Brittany's other GM closer will sure be nice for all the family.
LOL, NO..I don't want the "depression title"...its a side effect from the frustrations of the other hypoT symptoms, like being cold, tired, and fuzzy-brained.
I have never found an anti depressant that I could tolerate, even a half-dose of Effexor gives me a constipated brain. Best for me to get outside, think of something other than myself, or use self-hypnosis.

In the last month, since I could "feel" myself getting out of whack, I have increased my water intake, cut my diet back to more pure and simple foods
(Sadly waved Bye to baking goodies )...even lower fat
When the thyroid isn't maximally controlled, the metabolism can drop 20%, and the whole body slows down accordingly...Whoopie for me, being GOOD and I've gained 7 lbs, along with being too damned tired to exercise.

Hey Julie, GOOD to see ya back in the mix here
Hope your dinner with family brings lots of closeness and giggles.
LOL, I don't have ALL the symptoms ALL the time...they come and go..I just don't know "when" they are gonna come...hard to explain, but there's nothing consistant with the thyroid.
The List of symptoms above, and having most of them, is what origionally drove me to seek help years back...the meds mostly worked for long periods, either reducing or eliminating symptoms. Last year, I got out of whack, couldn't think straight, took a month off the BB cause I was goofy...had my meds increased, then kinda stablized.. til recently. Waiting on Test results, maybe Monday...

LOL, Zip...remember, I'm the one with diminished brain capacity Yes, I've had an ANA test, bout 3 years back when I was having a buncha arthritis, etc.

However, ALL the symptoms above are on a HypoT Symptoms List, and are directly attributable to untreated or undertreated conditions.
NonstickPam, the resident thyroid advocate here, went to tons of Docs and Endos before she got ALL her symptoms controlled...I believe she also has Celiac and Sjogren's...She found out, like most thyroid patients, that family docs don't know squat about the subject, and many Endos are not up to date either...gotta get one that specializes in it.

OK, like you got sick of the teeth, I'm burned out on my ailment..
....more when I know something valid to report.

Hey to all the MIAs

Happy weekend, Y'all

Shawnee

[Jewels]

CRAP, what a way to get out of dusting...........
Spent the last 6 hours in the ER. Had heart pounding, light headiness, nausea, uncontrolable shaking and sweating and my usual pressure from the GERD...jeez it's hell to get old. DX.. I'm going to live. Tests all were ok so am going to the Dr. on Tuesday and see about one of those heart halters to carry around. Still think some of it was GERD but not the shaking and fainting feeling. I haven't a clue whats going on but it was much worse than my other spells. I'm ok now but 6 hours of sitting around an ER would make anybody have a stroke.

So now you know......