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Painted Peggies 03-14-2014 07:44 AM

Intermittent fasting and excess energy?
 
I have started IF again, and have noticed that I have a LOT of excess energy this time. I feel agitated.

It has happened in the past, but this go around, I am having trouble sleeping or wake in the middle of the night and can't go back, for hours, to sleep.

I have coffee during the day.

BringOnTheLard 03-14-2014 08:22 AM

I've been on very strict LC/HF since last August. I've had spells of insomnia my whole life. However, I've just come out of a long stall, lasted almost a month where I was hovering around the same 3 lbs. Finally a few days ago the stall broke and I've lost 3 lbs since last week, hitting a new low.

A couple of weeks ago, while stalled, I noticed that I was sleeping well. Falling asleep quickly and sleeping through the night. Then, when the weight started coming off again I'm having some sleep issues again. Energy is about the same though.

But I do think something is going on and I'll be keeping track from now on. It does seem that when my body is in lose mode I can't sleep well. When it's in "rest mode"? ......then I sleep. I expect that when I get closer to goal rest mode will happen more often than lose mode.

First time in my life I look forward to insomnia though. LOL

Are you currently losing a lot?

jijane21 03-14-2014 02:04 PM

I've been IF for about a week now and I'm waking up at least an hour before my alarm, and I feel like I've had a ton of caffeine throughout the day. I usually have a diet coke in the AM, but water the rest of the day. The energy feeling is a very agitating feeling, and usually leads me to a high level of anxiety. I've been sick with the flu since this past weekend, but whenever illness lets up I'm going to have to take some long walks to combat the feeling!

leeloo 03-14-2014 05:00 PM

I don't fast, but i've been pretty strictly in induction an i have the same issue of waking early and not being able to go back to sleep. Annoying :annoyed:

I am losing, though, so i guess i'll take it.

GME 03-14-2014 05:26 PM

I have been IFing for a couple of weeks and it has affected my sleep too. I can't complain though, it is taking me 12 minutes to fall asleep instead of 4. That's three times as long though. :laugh:

Samantha42 03-15-2014 10:45 AM

Honestly, I think it's ketosis. Whether via low carb, more exercise, or fasting, whenever I am ketotic, I can feel it. Aside from the taste/breath, I cannot sleep. It's like, I'm tired, I need to sleep, but my body is too active and my mind tends to race.

It's an unfortunate side effect for me. :sad: Because of this reason, I tend to eat higher amounts of carbs and only dip into ketosis during my "more intense" weight loss phases, or when I happen to eat less one day or have lower carbs.

I lost most of the last 40 pounds by intermittently being more strict, losing a few pounds, and then maintaining for a month via a lower calorie plan where I essentially ate healthy but ate anything I wanted without any definite restrictions. I came to accept that whenever I wanted to lose more weight, I would do so at the sacrifice of sleep.

When I go on vacation and go "off plan", eating a lot of carbs, I sleep so well. So unfortunate! I think other people have the opposite issue, and seem to sleep better with ketosis and require less total hours of sleep time. :dunno:

clackley 03-15-2014 10:53 AM

I have read that intermittent fasting in some women can cause too much stress on the adrenals. Your description sounds like an issue with your adrenals.

I would back off the I.F. for a few weeks and see if things return to normal. It may be an easy solution. You could alternately get a test run and see what your levels are.

tammeli 03-16-2014 11:29 AM

What do you ladies do to IF? I heard a little bit about this, but would like to hear from some of you who have had success with this.

Samantha42 03-16-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tammeli (Post 16838848)
What do you ladies do to IF? I heard a little bit about this, but would like to hear from some of you who have had success with this.


My definition of IF - I only eat for 6-7 hours a day (from 12pm - 6/7pm), fasting for the remaining 16-17 hours of the day. I eat only 2 meals in that eating window, with no snacking. During the fasting period, I drink water, tea and sometimes zero calorie beverages like Zevia soda or Vitamin Water Zero.

Also, if I'm not hungry, I may push back that 12pm start time to ~3pm, making me go nearly 20 hours without eating (I rarely do this, but become very ketotic when I do).

Overall, I feel great and don't find myself overeating when I do eat.

jijane21 03-16-2014 11:47 AM

I was researching into IF a little more for women and some add a fat only supplement to their morning to combat the anxiety. For most that is Bullet proof coffee or tea. I'm not a coffee drinker so I'm going to try adding some HWC in the morning to see if it helps.

tammeli 03-16-2014 12:43 PM

Thanks. I think I might give IF a try.

Flutter 03-18-2014 12:44 PM

I have lost all of my weight (this time around) with Juddd, which is basically eating less calories every other day and more the next day. It has been miraculous for me and I've been maintaining (well under my goal weight) since last July. We have a Juddd section over here on LCF that's very active and full of information, if you want to check it out. We're a pretty happy bunch. :heart:

Flutter 03-18-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tammeli (Post 16838848)
What do you ladies do to IF? I heard a little bit about this, but would like to hear from some of you who have had success with this.

I have lost all of my weight doing IF, specifically, Juddd. It has been a life saver for me and the first plan I've ever managed to get to maintenance on and STAY THERE. Lots of happy maintainers with the plan, which is a big reason why I tried it. There's a Juddd section over here on LCF that's very active. Come join us, lots of great folks & great info over there. :heart: It's basically an every other day plan. ;) I eat a lot less one day, and a lot more the next. LOVE it and hey, it certainly has worked for me.

OP, I recall having some issues with insomnia when starting Juddd but it's gotten better. It does still plague me from time to time, but not too badly. There's a thread over there right now on sleep issues, maybe check it out?

Salad Spinner 03-20-2014 06:30 AM

Tammeli ~ I started IF'G about a year ago. I'm 52 and perim and attributed an increase in hunger to hormones? I've lc'd and maintained since 99', always eating my three meals and sometimes a night snack (all good, I do no eat off plan.) I decided to give IF a try and I absolutely love it! I eat once a day about 5/6 pm or so. I'm a purist so for me its water only until dinnertime. I learned quickly that a hungry feeling did not kill me, lol. It teaches you true hunger for sure. I get the 'hungry' feeling about every 3 or so hours and when I do I drink plain water and it goes away. I eat mindfully so if I get the full feeling signal from my brain to my belly and I'm not done with my plate I set it aside and will finish it later. I eat it in a 1 to 2 hour window. It may have been easier for me to transition to it tho since I already ate lc and healthy for so many years. Good luck!

painted_klown 03-20-2014 09:48 AM

I have considered doing IF, but I am not 100% sure hoow it works. Also, if I wake up and go into the afternoon without eating I get kinf of a "shaky" and "ill" feeling if that makes sense. Kind of like mild nausea combined with a "trembling feeling" on the inside...I hope that makes sense. Additionally, I feel like am STARVING when I do this.

The good thing is that when I finally do eat, it feels so good to eat such a large meal and not even come close to going over on my cals.

Fitforever 03-20-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by painted_klown (Post 16843851)
I have considered doing IF, but I am not 100% sure hoow it works. Also, if I wake up and go into the afternoon without eating I get kinf of a "shaky" and "ill" feeling if that makes sense. Kind of like mild nausea combined with a "trembling feeling" on the inside...I hope that makes sense. Additionally, I feel like am STARVING when I do this.

The good thing is that when I finally do eat, it feels so good to eat such a large meal and not even come close to going over on my cals.

If you have weight to lose try eating one meal a day at approximately the same time. Make sure when you eat the meal is low carb and high fat (LCHF). You will be doing 24 hour fasts eating one meal a day. There are many benefits of fasting 24 hours besides losing a ton of weight. When not cycling I do 2-3 24 fasts a week to stay healthy and in ketosis. Your hunger cravings will eventually go away after a few of these fasts. The other benefit is the time and money you save eating one meal a day.

painted_klown 03-20-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitforever (Post 16843882)
If you have weight to lose try eating one meal a day at approximately the same time. Make sure when you eat the meal is low carb and high fat (LCHF). You will be doing 24 hour fasts eating one meal a day. There are many benefits of fasting 24 hours besides losing a ton of weight. When not cycling I do 2-3 24 fasts a week to stay healthy and in ketosis. Your hunger cravings will eventually go away after a few of these fasts. The other benefit is the time and money you save eating one meal a day.

Thanks for the info. DO you recommend making this an early morning meal, or late evening meal.

Thanks for the tip!

clackley 03-22-2014 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by painted_klown (Post 16844442)
Thanks for the info. DO you recommend making this an early morning meal, or late evening meal.

Thanks for the tip!

This is personal preference but I think most people like to begin their fast after their afternoon or evening meal.

painted_klown 03-22-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by clackley (Post 16846293)
This is personal preference but I think most people like to begin their fast after their afternoon or evening meal.

Thanks for the info. I am seriously considering doing this on weekends. I can't imagine going all day at work with no food, but just around the house/running errands, this may be doable for me. If I find that it isn't, I can simply continue to count calories like I am now.

aryn12205 03-22-2014 01:35 PM

I've been doing IF for about 3 weeks now and have noticed a very similar effect. I'm not having trouble sleeping (in fact, I find that I'm exhausted earlier than usual), but am having crazy high energy spurts, especially in the morning! I have been blaming it on the ACV I take daily. :-)

Peace 03-22-2014 10:24 PM

I never eat breakfast, and usually go until 12,1 sometimes even 3 before I eat. Then, I eat again at 8 or 9 because that works for my schedule right now.

I think IF is amazing. I cant imagine going back to eating 3 meals a day, or eating every few hours. But, that is just me:) I do have more energy on IF, but in a good way.


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