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gizmik 08-20-2013 04:58 PM

bloating/ tummy fat :|
 
Hi, it's my 4th day on low carb and it was all going well but for almost 2 days i suddenly have a huge belly! It pops out of my shorts and it's really disgusting. 2 days ago, i almost had a flat belly, except for a small pooch but now i look like a 5 month pregnant lady! I did not get more than 30 grams of carb and i've been only getting around 1000 calories ( if i add my3 main meals it's only 750 calories and to make up for the 250 cals deficit my snacks are mostly made up of cheese) the worst part is when i get on the scale it showed one pound up ( i was not planning to get on it till saturday but i could not resist though it was soon after dinner) I used to have PCOS but my cycle is almost normal now, it's late for only a week and if it is no exception i should be having my period in ten days. What do you think? it's only bloating or i'm doing something wrong? :/

UghNowWhat 08-20-2013 05:29 PM

What exactly did you eat? Atkins products by any chance?

I can look like that depending on what I eat..usually fiber or salt do that.

gizmik 08-20-2013 05:55 PM

I don't remember what i ate yesterfay exactly but i can list today's.

1 egg and sausages
1/4 slice of wheat bread
Tomatos, cucumber
One handful of almonds and nuts
10 strawberries, 2 purple plums
One bowl of yoghurt soup
5 meatballs
1 bowl of zucchini meal

Blue Skies 08-20-2013 06:21 PM

Fasten your seat belt, lol. It's a long ride, and at 4 days in, you're only at the very beginning of your LC journey, if you choose to continue.

Many here may choose to comment on the menu you posted, but I won't because all in all it looks fine, and at 4 days in, there's just so much you will learn yet, and evolve to in this woe, again, if you persist. And I don't believe folks should freak this thing out day by day, and tweak by tweak, before you've hardly gotten started.

There are SO many things that can cause bloat, and a one pound weight gain. You're simply not going to have a handle on this till you've been doing it for awhile. My best advice is to keep going, and KEEP READING, here and other resources and books on Low Carb woes. There is a part of this forum dedicated to good reading resources "Recommended Reading" on the list of categories here. Check it out.

Olive 08-20-2013 08:14 PM

It happens. I'm hardcore LC and today had 2 hours of feeling really pouchy/bloated. Then it went away.

I felt completely bloated 24/7 pre-LC so gladly take this anyday!

pooticus 08-20-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Skies (Post 16567477)
Fasten your seat belt, lol. It's a long ride, and at 4 days in, you're only at the very beginning of your LC journey, if you choose to continue.

Many here may choose to comment on the menu you posted, but I won't because all in all it looks fine, and at 4 days in, there's just so much you will learn yet, and evolve to in this woe, again, if you persist. And I don't believe folks should freak this thing out day by day, and tweak by tweak, before you've hardly gotten started.

There are SO many things that can cause bloat, and a one pound weight gain. You're simply not going to have a handle on this till you've been doing it for awhile. My best advice is to keep going, and KEEP READING, here and other resources and books on Low Carb woes. There is a part of this forum dedicated to good reading resources "Recommended Reading" on the list of categories here. Check it out.

Wow! Great post!! :)

Prolly the cucumbers. Sometimes they make me bloat along with raw veg and fruits.

Aomiel 08-21-2013 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gizmik (Post 16567449)
I don't remember what i ate yesterfay exactly but i can list today's.

1 egg and sausages
1/4 slice of wheat bread
Tomatos, cucumber
One handful of almonds and nuts
10 strawberries, 2 purple plums
One bowl of yoghurt soup
5 meatballs
1 bowl of zucchini meal

Are you sure you're under 30 carbs? One small plum has 7.5 carbs so that's 15 right there. A handful of almonds/nuts is probably more than 1 ounce which is 6 grams just for an ounce. One strawberry is roughly 1 carb, so that's 10. We're up to 31 without counting the carbs in the tomatoes (high), zucchini meal, egg, wheat bread, yoghurt soup and meatballs.

If you're trying to go low carb, I'd cut out the bread, tomatoes, probably yoghurt soup and nuts (for the time being) and add in more protein and fats. The fats are noticeably missing. :)

skinni 08-21-2013 06:25 AM

The theory behind low carb is, basically: insulin from carbs, plus fat, lead to weight gain; just fat leads to weight loss. You might think you're doing yourself a favor by keeping in that one tiny slice of bread, and fruit, but you're really shooting yourself in the foot.

If you really want to do the "balanced" diet thing, maybe look into South Beach. It's more of a "healthier eating compared to SAD" plan than something actually "low carb," IMO, though.

You should really, seriously, read a book and follow its plan - this stuff has lots of science behind it, and can't just be made up on the spot.

All that said, a pound up is probably just water weight. Or hormonal change. It happens.

gizmik 08-21-2013 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Aomiel (Post 16567848)
Are you sure you're under 30 carbs? One small plum has 7.5 carbs so that's 15 right there. A handful of almonds/nuts is probably more than 1 ounce which is 6 grams just for an ounce. One strawberry is roughly 1 carb, so that's 10. We're up to 31 without counting the carbs in the tomatoes (high), zucchini meal, egg, wheat bread, yoghurt soup and meatballs.

If you're trying to go low carb, I'd cut out the bread, tomatoes, probably yoghurt soup and nuts (for the time being) and add in more protein and fats. The fats are noticeably missing. :)

wow, really? :/ the tool i use for determining the carbs said one plum has only 3 carbs,a half cup of strawberries has about 5. i was planning to eat more of them :/ What is the most reliable source?
Btw, thank you all

gizmik 08-21-2013 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinni (Post 16567964)
The theory behind low carb is, basically: insulin from carbs, plus fat, lead to weight gain; just fat leads to weight loss. You might think you're doing yourself a favor by keeping in that one tiny slice of bread, and fruit, but you're really shooting yourself in the foot.

If you really want to do the "balanced" diet thing, maybe look into South Beach. It's more of a "healthier eating compared to SAD" plan than something actually "low carb," IMO, though.

You should really, seriously, read a book and follow its plan - this stuff has lots of science behind it, and can't just be made up on the spot.

All that said, a pound up is probably just water weight. Or hormonal change. It happens.

Thank you but, do you mean if i'm on a high fat diet, i should be having just ZERO carb? I thought as long it is within a limitation, i should be fine with only a quarter of bread, and a few fruits since the bread i ate only has 2 carbs. :/

skinni 08-21-2013 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gizmik (Post 16568012)
Thank you but, do you mean if i'm on a high fat diet, i should be having just ZERO carb? I thought as long it is within a limitation, i should be fine with only a quarter of bread, and a few fruits since the bread i ate only has 2 carbs. :/

No - 30 grams is great, but the type of carbs you eat matters. You can eat about 6 heads of lettuce for 30g net carbs, which will have practically no effect on your insulin, or you can have one Snickers bar, which will send insulin reeling. Whole grain bread is slower to hit you than a candy bar, but it's still a form of sugar.

There's an article in First magazine this week explaining how the whole "good carb" thing has been a fallacy. I posted it on my fridge because it has a disturbing picture I've never seen before, of blood cells under the influence of sugar - it's worth picking up just for that.

Aomiel 08-21-2013 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by skinni (Post 16568035)
No - 30 grams is great, but the type of carbs you eat matters. You can eat about 6 heads of lettuce for 30g net carbs, which will have practically no effect on your insulin, or you can have one Snickers bar, which will send insulin reeling. Whole grain bread is slower to hit you than a candy bar, but it's still a form of sugar.

There's an article in First magazine this week explaining how the whole "good carb" thing has been a fallacy. I posted it on my fridge because it has a disturbing picture I've never seen before, of blood cells under the influence of sugar - it's worth picking up just for that.

:goodpost:

Being diabetic, that's exactly what I've found. The number of carbs matter, yes, but so do the 'type' of carbs because of how slowly or quickly they hit your system and also how many carbs you eat at one time. Which is why Dr. Bernstein (Diabetes Solution) says to spread them out across your meals.

If you want maximum effect from low carb, obviously my .02, keep your carbs under 25, get them only from non-starchy vegies and watch your protein. A good place to start with protein is 1-1.5gm per kilo of ideal weight. Some people do better with more...some with less...but it's a good place to start. Don't try to go low fat. That's probably the biggest mistake I see people make.

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Blue Skies 08-21-2013 07:33 AM

gizmik---I did not do induction, do an average of 30 carbs a day, and I eat tomatoes, nuts, small amts of sprouted LC wheat bread and wraps, berries and everything else on your menu except for the plums.

I have lost 29 pounds since February doing this. The less strict you are w/your carbs, the slower you probably lose, but I'm quite satisfied with my rate of loss, and LC this way works for me because I can sustain it. I will also note that I've been in ketosis since early March eating this way.

Of course it's as different for everyone as our bodies are different and unique. But one of the questions to ask yourself, imo, is---how fast do I need to lose this weight?

There's good info from everyone here, lots of different POVs and experiences. So my point remains---two things. You learn what works for you over time and w/some experimentation. And, that time is shorter the more you read and learn about the science behind how this works, and then begin to tailor it to yourself.

Olive 08-21-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Skies (Post 16568097)
gizmik---I did not do induction, do an average of 30 carbs a day, and I eat tomatoes, nuts, small amts of sprouted LC wheat bread and wraps, berries and everything else on your menu except for the plums.

I have lost 29 pounds since February doing this. The less strict you are w/your carbs, the slower you probably lose, but I'm quite satisfied with my rate of loss, and LC this way works for me because I can sustain it. I will also note that I've been in ketosis since early March eating this way.

Of course it's as different for everyone as our bodies are different and unique. But one of the questions to ask yourself, imo, is---how fast do I need to lose this weight?

There's good info from everyone here, lots of different POVs and experiences. So my point remains---two things. You learn what works for you over time and w/some experimentation. And, that time is shorter the more you read and learn about the science behind how this works, and then begin to tailor it to yourself.

So lucky! I doubt I'll get to berries for another three months :sad:

I'm a little alarmed by tomatoes being mentioned as a no-no food here? I've been averaging 1/2 day. I just got some that are perfect, ruby-red.

Blue Skies 08-21-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Olive (Post 16568112)
So lucky! I doubt I'll get to berries for another three months :sad:

I'm a little alarmed by tomatoes being mentioned as a no-no food here? I've been averaging 1/2 day. I just got some that are perfect, ruby-red.

Well, tomatoes will never be a no no food for me, particularly when they are straight from the garden. An average sized tomato is about 5 grams of carb, so w/your half a day you're getting about 2.5 carbs. If you add that into your carb allowance, I think it will be fine.

True that some are VERY carb resistant and have to cut out a lot of things I haven't had to---even though I have metabolic syndrome, which is what landed me here to begin with. Again, if you continue to lose eating a modest amt of tomatoes---then that tells you they fit on your woe.

I guess for me, I'm very reluctant to tweak out anything I know I can't keep up with over the long haul. No good losing the weight by depriving oneself, only to regain it again when that can't be sustained.

anglgrl 08-21-2013 09:45 AM

There's a reason they call it a "bread baby". :laugh:

cleochatra 08-21-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gizmik (Post 16567449)
I don't remember what i ate yesterfay exactly but i can list today's.

1 egg and sausages
1/4 slice of wheat bread
Tomatos, cucumber
One handful of almonds and nuts
10 strawberries, 2 purple plums
One bowl of yoghurt soup
5 meatballs
1 bowl of zucchini meal

Wheat and nuts could absolutely be it, since they're huge on the food allergy train.

Those can cause distention/inflammation, especially if you might have a food intolerance. I'd cut both out for 2 weeks, and then add one back in at a time to catch the culprit.

UghNowWhat 08-21-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gizmik (Post 16568012)
Thank you but, do you mean if i'm on a high fat diet, i should be having just ZERO carb? I thought as long it is within a limitation, i should be fine with only a quarter of bread, and a few fruits since the bread i ate only has 2 carbs. :/

Some do "0 carb" but not everyone. I'm on a high fat diet and eat 50'ish carbs a day but it's mostly from vegetables and eggs. It's the types of carbs that matter.

I don't know how much you have to lose but it might be a food combining issue more than carbs. Nuts take a few hours to digest and fruit digests fast..so it can somehow mesh together and cause bloat. If you want to eat fruit I'd try it first thing in the morning then eat something else a few hours later. But usually low carbers don't eat fruit when trying to lose weight.

gizmik 08-23-2013 12:59 PM

So far so good. I've considerably lessened the amount of cheese,chick peas and especially fruits which seem to give me bloating and my tummy seems smaller. But yesterday i ate 2 tbsp of kidney bean and this time it gave me both the bloating and constipitation :( Despite all, i managed to get 20-25 carbs yesterday and 15-20 carbs today. I may have to take a laxative tomorrow and then weigh in.

gizmik 08-23-2013 01:08 PM

Another question,
how much carbonhydrate is burned during cardio? I've read somewhere that during the first 10-15 minutes of cardio body burns carbs rather than fat but i have no clue regarding to the amount and do you think it should be taken into account as well?

skinni 08-23-2013 06:12 PM

Legumes are not low carb. Look, this is not a deprivation diet. You shouldn't be having 1/4 of anything or 2 tbsp of a food. You can eat until you're full and lose 20 lbs in a month, if you read a low carb book and follow the plan. You don't have to calculate how many carbs you've burned, like calories. It doesn't work like that.

gizmik 08-24-2013 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by skinni (Post 16572210)
Legumes are not low carb. Look, this is not a deprivation diet. You shouldn't be having 1/4 of anything or 2 tbsp of a food. You can eat until you're full and lose 20 lbs in a month, if you read a low carb book and follow the plan. You don't have to calculate how many carbs you've burned, like calories. It doesn't work like that.

I'm well aware of that, okey. I did not eat much carb all day, so i took the 2 tbsp of legumes as a cheat meal.

SugarFreeSheila 08-25-2013 06:29 AM

Hi, Gizmik! Have you considered following a particular program - just to have a solid plan of action?


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