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mdog73 07-21-2013 10:52 PM

Looking for info on which carbs matter
 
In this pic there are 11g of carbs total, 2 are fiber, 6 sugar and 2 sugar alcohol. I'm trying to figure out how many carbs there are in this that I need to worry about. Supposedly there are 3 net carbs in this but i want to understand the math.

Thanks.


http://i.imgur.com/b7pXWz3.jpg?1

Ntombi 07-21-2013 11:34 PM

Okay, it really depends on how you count your carbs.

11g of total carbohydrates, 2g fiber, 2g sugar alcohols.

If you're counting total carbs (like I and some others do): count 11g

If you count net carbs, only subtracting fiber: count 9g

If you count net carbs subtracting both fiber and SAs: count 7g

But regardless of whether one subtracts fiber and SAs, I have absolutely no idea how it could be 3, when the sugar carbs alone are 6! There's a misprint somewhere.

emel 07-22-2013 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdog73 (Post 16525557)
In this pic there are 11g of carbs total, 2 are fiber, 6 sugar and 2 sugar alcohol. I'm trying to figure out how many carbs there are in this that I need to worry about. Supposedly there are 3 net carbs in this but i want to understand the math.

Thanks.


http://i.imgur.com/b7pXWz3.jpg?1

Agree with Ntombi.

It's 11 for those who count total carbs.
It's 9 net carbs for those who subtract only fiber.
It's 7 net carbs for those who subtract fiber AND sugar alcohols.

I think the 'supposedly there are 3 net carbs' may have come from erroneously subtracting the 6 sugar carbs instead of the sugar alcohols, which no one would do for figuring out net--sugar carbs are never deducted, no matter if they come from table sugar or from fruit or from veggies.

I think some sugar alcohols are okay and some aren't. For me, I steer clear of malitol, but I'm okay with erythritol and xylitol. I count total carbs, but some folks do well when counting net carbs. You'll have to see whether a certain product works for you, and you'll have to be willing to give it up if it doesn't.

clackley 07-22-2013 06:15 AM

They often don't add up. I think it is a case of rounding down. The other issue is that we are reliant on producers to be accurate. Personally, the less I use of pre-prepared foods, the better.

Aomiel 07-22-2013 06:22 AM

Gross carbs matter for some of us. Others only count net carbs (deducting the fiber carbs) which leaves 9.

My .02...avoid this altogether. Even if you count 7, allowing the sugar alcohols, that's still a lot of carbs wasted that are better spent on vegies.

llisarray 07-22-2013 07:47 AM

I personally would count it as 7 carbs..and I wouldn't eat it. The ONLY way I will eat 7 carbs in one item is in veggie carbs...lol Carbs are not my friends :)

Mistizoom 07-22-2013 07:50 AM

It depends on which sugar alcohol it is for me...If erythritol I would likely subtract the sugar alcohol and fiber to get net carbs, if any other sugar alcohol I probably wouldn't subtract the sugar alcohol. For myself, I always look at total carbs and fiber each day, and try to avoid sugar alcohols for the most part, so I don't worry about net carbs too much. The 6 g of sugar would scare me, though, and I would be unlikely to eat this item at all.

emel 07-22-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mistizoom (Post 16525947)
It depends on which sugar alcohol it is for me...If erythritol I would likely subtract the sugar alcohol and fiber to get net carbs, if any other sugar alcohol I probably wouldn't subtract the sugar alcohol. For myself, I always look at total carbs and fiber each day, and try to avoid sugar alcohols for the most part, so I don't worry about net carbs too much. The 6 g of sugar would scare me, though, and I would be unlikely to eat this item at all.

YEah, something like this.
If I feel like I'm deducting sugar alcohols as a way of getting more carbish foods into my plan on a daily basis, I don't subtract them--it's my way of staying away from them I guess. lol

If I"m looking for a good substitute food to make as part of a celebration (like what to have instead of a piece of cake at a birthday party I'm hosting,) I'll subtract the erythritol and xylitol sugar alcohol calories in my recipe and enjoy the food for that one occasion while still having carb room for veggies.

Natalia 07-22-2013 08:31 AM

I count 8. What I do, is first subtract fiber, which leaves you 9, and then half the sugar alcohols , for 8. For erythritol I may subtract all of the SA's but for maltitol etc no way, it hits me harder than the 2-3 net carbs the box suggests.

It's been shown apparently that SA's partially absorb, depending on the person, so I halve them :)

Natalia 07-22-2013 08:35 AM

PS I agree with Ntombi. 3 net is impossible bc there are 6g straight up sugar!

mdog73 07-22-2013 07:31 PM

I pretty much thought the same as most of you are saying after I read the box. I trusted the cover which said 3 carbs, but it's probably actually 8 or 9 carbs, and I think these are what stalled me. I'll figure it out over the next 2 weeks as I remove these completely from my diet.

Taxbane 07-25-2013 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdog73 (Post 16525557)
In this pic there are 11g of carbs total, 2 are fiber, 6 sugar and 2 sugar alcohol. I'm trying to figure out how many carbs there are in this that I need to worry about. Supposedly there are 3 net carbs in this but i want to understand the math.

Thanks.


http://i.imgur.com/b7pXWz3.jpg?1

It also depends on whether this product is made in the US or abroad. Labeling laws are different. If from the US, you can subtract Fiber from the Total Carbs. If it the product is from abroad, they are allowed to already subtract the fiber from the Carb total, and still allowed to show the Fiber again, indented under the carb total. So with non-US products you have to be careful about double subtracting the fiber out.

On that note, I presume the same is true about sugar alcohols labeled on foreign products, but I am not entirely sure.

Also, as others mentioned, not all sugar alcohols are equal. IMO Erythritol is the only one I subtract since you only digest 5% of it. Most other Sugar alcohols (including glycerin) are digested in the range of 50% or more, so only half (or 25%) of which should actually be subtracted to determine net carbs.


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