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Old 07-21-2013, 08:25 PM   #31
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I understand your point of view, Peanutte. I'm eating more for fuel and less for variety. I wouldn't mind eating the same thing several days in a row, but my family wants variety.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:49 PM   #32
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Yes! For months now I have really been trying to shift from food as fun and exciting to food as fuel. I have been having mostly really boring stuff for my dinner, like, for weeks and weeks I had 2 salmon burgers and a whole avocado every night (and I really don't even like avocado) but then about 2 hours after dinner I'll have a yummies snack, which for many months was 1 ounce cheddar, 1 ounce mesquite almonds, and 2 wedges of dark chocolate. Just recently I switched my snack to 1 ounce of cheddar and a serving of chia pumpkin pudding. The pudding kinda worries me bc it's a little too yummy, but in time it'll probably get boring and I'll be more comfortable with it. lol
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Chia pumpkin pudding.... Now I need a recipe.... I have lots of both in the house.
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Chia pumpkin pudding.... Now I need a recipe.... I have lots of both in the house.
I'm really liking it! I kinda just made it up, so if you feel the need, switch it up!

For one large serving (approx 300 calories and 5 g carb):

2 T canned pumpkin
2 T chia seeds
2 T heavy whipping cream
5/8 c (or half cup plus a slash) trader joe's coconut milk in the carton, not can
sweeten to taste
dash salt

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Old 07-22-2013, 01:53 AM   #35
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DH and I don't eat low carb so we can lose weight, although we both have lost. DH was diagnosed with diabetes and me with prediabetes on the same day 2 yrs. ago, and we have been eating LCHF (and no meds) to control it ever since. So for us it isn't a choice, it's mandatory that we eat this way for the rest of our lives. My hat is off to all of those who can eat the same thing every day and stick with it, but I knew if DH and I didn't have lots of variety, if the food didn't taste great and if we never ate anything that tasted sweet, neither of us would be able to stick with it, especially not for life.

I went through the non-low-carb recipes I used before diabetes and converted as many of them as I could to low carb, then came the hard part. For the recipes that I was unable to convert myself, I'd look for online low-carb versions of those dishes. If it tasted good, I kept it, if it wasn't that great I'd either change it to suit myself or find another recipe that was good, or invent my own. Since we are pretty much eating the same things as before (only made the low carb way), it is easy to stick with it.
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Right now I can stick to food repetition because everything I eat tastes so good. What I need to do is conquer the maintenance part of this WOE when I reach goal - this is where I failed last time due to lack of variety - food boredom.
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:36 AM   #37
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On second thought--I realize what I said might come off as lofty. I sincerely don't mean it that way; it has just been an important way for me to rethink the role food plays in my life. If it resonates with someone else--great. If not, nothing negative was intended.
I get what you're saying, and it didn't sound fussy to me.
I used to cook professionally, so I have seen, and participated in furthering, the quest for the latest and greatest taste sensation, as you described in your first post.

I like simple food. If people want to do recipes for variety and pazazz, that's fine. But I like chicken thigh with skin cooked in a little butter with salt and pepper. I like salad. I like veggies. I like a fatty steak, and nowadays 4 to 6 oz of one satisfies me nicely (so I can get 2 or 3 meals from a restaurant plate).
I don't feel deprived when using the simplest of seasonings--it tastes good to me and my body runs well on it. When I first started (this time) with LC, I wanted more involved flavor profiles. But now that I'm adapted to burning fat, I am satisfied with simple food.

If my husband, who is trying to cut carbs, wants a cheesy casserole or some bacon in his mushroom/onion saute for his hamburger steak, I'm pleased to cook it for him, and I'm fine with having a bite of it--or not-- with my plate of my simple food.
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I have no variety. Lunch i eat salad and some cheese(never eat breakfast) and dinner eat either chicken/beef/pork/fish with a veggie. Dessert always consists of blueberries and a few cherries w/ greek yogurt.
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:55 AM   #39
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I love cooking. I work in a creative job, and I guess cooking is my creative outlet when I'm not at work.

I don't really eat super varied during the week, but I try to be as varied as possible to get enough varied nutrients in my diet.

I fast 3 days a week, so the 4 days I eat LCHF, I try to be creative and get my cooking juices flowing!

On weekends, BF and I usually cook something special or different, it keeps us entertained.

We both like trying out new foods and recipes as well...
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:02 AM   #40
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Variety is the name of the game in my woe. If I had to eat the same thing day in and day out, I would not be very happy. There are so many wonderful foods that fit into my plan, I see no reason to eat without variety unless that is what one prefers.
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I see all kinds of things in life from which we don't expect or demand variety, excitement, novelty and titillation. I wonder why we seem to expect food to be an exception to this. If you really think about it, it's kind of mind-blowing.
I so get this. I grew up in a family that treated food as the entertainment. At family gatherings, the food came out and stayed out and was replenished often. There was *never* any type of gathering that didn't involve copious amounts of food. It's no surprise that 90% of the family members are seriously overweight with related health problems.

My husband's family, on the other hand, does not have food at every gathering...not even snacks or dessert. When there is food, it's in the form of an actual meal which takes place and then *all* food is put away. Not surprisingly, there isn't even one overweight person in his family. Don't get me wrong...they do enjoy their food and two of them are chefs...but it is not their entertainment.

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I love eating! I never want food to be fuel. I enjoy every meal, it is entertaining to me. I have no problem with that. I get a lot of joy from my burgers and steaks.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:34 AM   #43
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See, I do expect life to be exciting and varied. All aspects of my life, including food. Variety is the name of the game, for me.
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I'm about 1/2 and 1/2 on this subject. Breakfast and lunch are pretty much the same every single [work] day: Bulletproof coffee for breakfast and then a granny smith apple and generous serving of raw almonds (or sometimes mixed nuts) for lunch. Dinner, on the other hand, is whatever I feel like at the moment and I like to get creative. I'm a huge foodie and I absolutely love to cook for myself and for others. I rarely have the same dinner in a month.

This system is really working well for me right now. Not having to think about my breakfast and lunch is freeing, in a way. I tend to think about food ALL the time, constantly thinking about what I'm going to eat next, so getting rid of those choices has simplified things for me a lot. I really enjoy my BP coffee and my apple/almonds so I'm still eating something I like without having to worry about what's in it and I don't have to put in any time to make it. Dinner is where I have fun.

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Old 07-22-2013, 10:25 AM   #45
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I like simplicity, easy lunches to pack, and easy things to grab from the grocery store.. I don't like to spend a lot of time on my meals or cleaning and it's only me, so I tend to stick to the same things on LC! I try to cook 1 big amount of something to eat all week for lunch.
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See, I do expect life to be exciting and varied. All aspects of my life, including food. Variety is the name of the game, for me.
So well said!!! Me too.
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See, I do expect life to be exciting and varied. All aspects of my life, including food. Variety is the name of the game, for me.
Add another one to the list. I'm including Suzanneyea simply because she enjoys food even if it is the same thing.

I love food and I love variety and it works for me. If I ate the same things all the time I would be constantly searching for junk food to fill the void. There still are some days I'll eat the same thing for a number of days because it calls to me. When it stops calling or I run out of it I move on to something else I love. Luckily that usually happens about the same time.

Then there are the days I eat the same thing, but vary the flavors. I just baked a bunch of chicken wings, and every few had different spices on top. So the same thing but varied.

It definitely is an individual thing and you have to figure out what works for you.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:23 AM   #48
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Maybe it's because I do enjoy my food that it's okay with me to not need a lot of variety. Repetition doesn't mean I don't like my food. It just means I don't need it to wow me or thrill me.


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Then there are the days I eat the same thing, but vary the flavors. I just baked a bunch of chicken wings, and every few had different spices on top. So the same thing but varied.
Yeah, exactly. Using different spices, herbs and seasonings is a simple way to change the flavors without needing a recipe or a whole new style of dish. I am loving all the fresh herbs from my garden this time of year.
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Count me as another who enjoys her food even without huge variety.

When I cut out unprocessed foods, grains, & dairy there wasn't a heck of a lot left, comparatively speaking. Just the very good & healthy stuff.

My variety is also in the spices. A bunless burger one day, tacos on lettuce leaves another, etc...
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For me, "variety" means buying a lot of broccoli one week, asparagus the next week, or eating more fish one week and more chicken the next. It's not at all about flavors and recipes and ideas and "not being bored".

I think more people could stand to explore the wide world of allowing food to be "boring". I say the word "boring" somewhat tongue-in-cheek, because I am not advocating a baseline of dissatisfaction and tedium. I'm just saying, food doesn't need to be perking our interest and exciting us every single day of the week, and I think a lot of us became overweight because we allowed food to be too interesting and engaging and entertaining.

I know that a lot of people feel they need variety in their diet, but what if we looked at other areas of life through that same lens. We choose to be in monogamous relationships with people who, let's face it, may or may not continue to be as attractive and romantically interesting as they were when we first were dating them--but we choose to remain faithful and not pursue a need for "variety" in that arena. We see other ways in which our spouses are irreplaceable and valuable. That's the lens of maturity and self-awareness.

I see all kinds of things in life from which we don't expect or demand variety, excitement, novelty and titillation. I wonder why we seem to expect food to be an exception to this. If you really think about it, it's kind of mind-blowing.
Wow, yes, never thought of it this way. Wanting to be entertained/soothed/comforted by food, rather than just fed, is what got many of us into this mess in the first place.

Perhaps is because we forget what food is capable of - feeding us, nothing more, really... it's just food. When we start expecting all kinds of other results from it (such as entertainment/soothing/comfort) we have to eat more and more and yet stay unsatisfied because we're expecting the food to do things for us which it simply does not have the ability to.

Light bulb moment for me, personally. Thank you Peanutte.
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Anyone that wants variety and gets bored just needs to go look at any of the Induction Food Porn threads, #1, #2 or #3. Tons of recipes/ideas.
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Wow, yes, never thought of it this way. Wanting to be entertained/soothed/comforted by food, rather than just fed, is what got many of us into this mess in the first place.

Perhaps is because we forget what food is capable of - feeding us, nothing more, really... it's just food. When we start expecting all kinds of other results from it (such as entertainment/soothing/comfort) we have to eat more and more and yet stay unsatisfied because we're expecting the food to do things for us which it simply does not have the ability to.

Light bulb moment for me, personally. Thank you Peanutte.
What got me into this mess was not "wanting to be entertained/soothed/comformted by food". It was the type of food. Plain and simple. I did not learn some kind of new notion that food is just food. I learned that high carbohydrate food is an addiction due to the physical effect on a body.
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What got me into this mess was not "wanting to be entertained/soothed/comformted by food". It was the type of food. Plain and simple. I did not learn some kind of new notion that food is just food. I learned that high carbohydrate food is an addiction due to the physical effect on a body.
This. I couldn't have put it better, Cathy!
I'm like you, it's the type of food that derails me, not the wide variety of foods that I like cooking when I'm on plan. I love the fact that there still is so much to try out and make and taste, it motivates me to stay on plan and experiment with my cooking.

Personally, I don't think food is just food. It should be something that is enjoyed. It should be something that people take an interest in. Maybe this way when we demand a varied, healthy offering of natural foods we can all make a little change in what is offered in the shops as well. We need to relearn how to cook with REAL food, and relearn the enjoyment that people used to have in cooking and savouring what they cooked (and hunted/gathered). Sometimes it wasn't a lot but as far as I know, food has always been part of some kind of enjoyment ritual, for many peoples, for many many thousands of years.

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I don't mean to be crass, but to me the notion that food is just fuel is like the notion that sex is just for reproduction.

I think we have the variety of taste buds that we do, and that food provides the level of enjoyment that it does, is because food is meant to be enjoyed at a deeper level than just nourishment. I see no problem with food being used for celebration and as a way to bring us together. We are social animals and eating is a social activity. We are also intelligent and creative and can use tools, etc. - so it stands to reason that we've elevated food to a level of entertainment and diversion that other animals cannot.

I think like clackley says, it's a matter of choice. When I say I like variety and excitement in my food, this does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that I need carbs and sugar. I enjoy low carb foods; if I didn't, I could not be successful on this WOE. There are so many ways to prepare meats and low starch vegetables, so many different cultural spins to try, so many flavor combinations to play with - I just don't need to accept a low variety diet to reduce my carbohydrate consumption. Which suits me just fine.
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What got me into this mess was not "wanting to be entertained/soothed/comformted by food". It was the type of food. Plain and simple. I did not learn some kind of new notion that food is just food. I learned that high carbohydrate food is an addiction due to the physical effect on a body.
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This. I couldn't have put it better, Cathy!
I'm like you, it's the type of food that derails me, not the wide variety of foods that I like cooking when I'm on plan. I love the fact that there still is so much to try out and make and taste, it motivates me to stay on plan and experiment with my cooking.

Personally, I don't think food is just food. It should be something that is enjoyed. It should be something that people take an interest in. Maybe this way when we demand a varied, healthy offering of natural foods we can all make a little change in what is offered in the shops as well. We need to relearn how to cook with REAL food, and relearn the enjoyment that people used to have in cooking and savouring what they cooked (and hunted/gathered). Sometimes it wasn't a lot but as far as I know, food has always been part of some kind of enjoyment ritual, for many peoples, for many many thousands of years.
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I don't mean to be crass, but to me the notion that food is just fuel is like the notion that sex is just for reproduction.
Crass or not - perfect explanation!

Actually reading many of these posts people that say they don't eat a high variety of food then go on to say how they vary their food. It just seems like they considered processed food variety, when whole foods cooked in different ways is varied too.
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What got me into this mess was not "wanting to be entertained/soothed/comformted by food". It was the type of food. Plain and simple.
This exactly. That's not how I "got into this mess", either. I enjoy eating and I enjoy food, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. I ate lots of "healthy whole grains" before I discovered lc plans. Quite honestly, I didn't enjoy that 7 grain bread all that much. I'd have rather had white bread, but because whole grain bread was "healthier", I ate that instead.

It's a mistake to assume that many of us are overweight because eating has to be a celestial experience. My MIL was almost 400 lbs when she passed away. She followed her doctor's orders to the letter for years. He had her on fat-free, salt-free, and artificially-sweetened everything. Two hours after her last appointment with her heart doctor, where he told her that her heart was in good shape and her eating plan was great, she had a massive heart attack.
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Too much variety is a death knell for me. It makes staying on plan much, much harder when I am constantly having different menu items and amounts. I have a rotation of things I like and they make up 90% of what I eat every week. The rest is things like restaurant meals or winging it at social events, where I am eating low carb but not my standard diet.
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I don't mean to be crass, but to me the notion that food is just fuel is like the notion that sex is just for reproduction.

I think we have the variety of taste buds that we do, and that food provides the level of enjoyment that it does, is because food is meant to be enjoyed at a deeper level than just nourishment. I see no problem with food being used for celebration and as a way to bring us together. We are social animals and eating is a social activity. We are also intelligent and creative and can use tools, etc. - so it stands to reason that we've elevated food to a level of entertainment and diversion that other animals cannot.

I think like clackley says, it's a matter of choice. When I say I like variety and excitement in my food, this does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that I need carbs and sugar. I enjoy low carb foods; if I didn't, I could not be successful on this WOE. There are so many ways to prepare meats and low starch vegetables, so many different cultural spins to try, so many flavor combinations to play with - I just don't need to accept a low variety diet to reduce my carbohydrate consumption. Which suits me just fine.
Gosh so many excellent views and points made in this thread. I so echo Suzanneyeah's post. I want to get pleasure from food. It's when I try to deny that desire, that rebellion comes out.

And variety does not equate to complicated--unless that's your choice! I'd say probably 5-6 nights out of the week, we eat either a grilled piece of meat/fish (or pan-sauteed in butter), veg fixed some way (although we love roasted or grilled for simplicity), and a salad. Lunch is no brainer leftover protein with some kind of quick veg. We mostly only eat 2 meals a day. It's simple food, lovingly prepared and tastes fanfreakintastic! LOL. The spice blends and rubs I make up or the horseradish dipping sauce that comes with it...you get the pic. It keeps me from feeling "put-upon" that I'm dieting. I don't feel like I'm dieting, but I am. Am there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with having a plan. It's when you lack a clearly directed plan, that failure seems eminent!

But what's so cool about this thread is that it shows why there is simply no "one size fits all" for weight loss. Even though we may share a similar approach to dieting, no two LC plans are the same, even though most could be called Atkins! You simply have to morph a great, basic plan into your own individualized one so that your needs are met over a majority of time. Otherwise, you are lost to attrition. And we've all seen that happen or had it happen to us for a time! There is no such thing as "My Way or the Highway" in weightloss.
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