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Old 07-19-2013, 02:08 PM   #1
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Black bean noodles

Not sure if this has been brought up before since it's not easy to search for "black bean". Anyway, these products on netrition: Explore Asian Organic Black Bean Spaghetti
show as 17 carbs, and 12 grams of fiber, then netrition does its thing where it shows net carbs by subtracting them out.

HOWEVER I emailed Explore Asian about the noodles and inquired if their nutrition label was similar to UK where the fiber count was already subtracted from the carb count on the label. They emailed me back and said that yes this was the case. Which means the NET CARB count is ACTUALLY 17, not 5. Has anyone confirmed anything to the contrary?
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:21 PM   #2
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Wow! That so makes sense! We couldn't figure out why non-soy, black bean pasta could be so low?!
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:29 PM   #3
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Yeah sadly I have 3 packages in my cabinet right now. Eh, even at 17 carbs, when I'm closer to my goal weight I can eat them for the higher protein content, and they'll still be lower carb than normal pasta.
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I hate that. Netrition has them, and has them listed as 5 net carbs--so that needs correcting.
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thanks, brimmy

netrition works hard to have the right info, I am sure, but we have the strongest motivation not to believe it when it's too good to be true. they can't be querying every manufacturer all the time!

we have to keep vigilant on all labels. there are a LOT of misleading labels out there.

please don't blame netrition for this.
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:03 PM   #6
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I was wondering the same about my chia. My chia wrapper says 2 net carbs per 1/4 cup, but someone else said 2tsp had 2net carbs. That's a big difference!!
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Oh i certainly don't blame Netrition at all. In fact i used the link to report the inaccuracy. I just wanted inform people.
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I was wondering the same about my chia. My chia wrapper says 2 net carbs per 1/4 cup, but someone else said 2tsp had 2net carbs. That's a big difference!!
Is it really 1 net carb per teaspoon? I thought it was tablespoon, too.
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Everywhere I've looked, it's been 1net per 2T. It was someone on LCF who said it was per tsp. sure hope they were mistaken.
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Not sure if this has been brought up before since it's not easy to search for "black bean". Anyway, these products on netrition: Explore Asian Organic Black Bean Spaghetti
show as 17 carbs, and 12 grams of fiber, then netrition does its thing where it shows net carbs by subtracting them out.

HOWEVER I emailed Explore Asian about the noodles and inquired if their nutrition label was similar to UK where the fiber count was already subtracted from the carb count on the label. They emailed me back and said that yes this was the case. Which means the NET CARB count is ACTUALLY 17, not 5. Has anyone confirmed anything to the contrary?
Thank you for pointing this out! Based on your comment, Netrition's president looked into this and confirmed the net carbs were incorrect. The Nutrition Facts on Netrition's site have now been updated to reflect 17 net carbs.
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thanks Kathy--
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:11 PM   #12
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Thank you for pointing this out! Based on your comment, Netrition's president looked into this and confirmed the net carbs were incorrect. The Nutrition Facts on Netrition's site have now been updated to reflect 17 net carbs.
You're awesome, thanks! Still not bad carb count and lots of protein on the noodles if they taste as good as people say! Would be fantastic as a pasta substitute once someone is at their goal weight.
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Thanks Kathy!

brimmy, could you take half a serving and mix it with other noodles shiritaki or even zucchini noodles to bulk the serving back up without adding a bunch of carbs?
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such a great idea Pooti--I have a ton of these noodles, and they are a big shot of protein. one ounce mixed with shiritaki would be awesome!
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Too good to be true after all.

Looking at my package it makes sense though since a 2.0z (56g) gram portion less 2g of fat, less 25g protein = 29 Grams Total Carbs. Then you subtract out Fiber of 12 g which leaves you with Net Carbs of 17 Grams.

My lesson I learned from this is when in doubt about the package's claims: Just subtract the Fat and Protein Grams from the Total Serving size grams first. What you have left is the Total Carbs which should match the Total Carbs claimed.

If it doesn't match, then most likely the manufacturer has already subtracted the Fiber from Total Carbs (following Non-US labeling). Why in the world, the manufacture would then "indent" Fiber under Total Carbs is beyond me (well I suspect why at least).

Thanks Brimmy for doing the homework on this one!
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Too good to be true after all.

Thanks Brimmy for doing the homework on this one!
My pleasure. I've come to be suspicious of any carb count when the product is made outside the US (The US as far as I know never subtracts fiber from carbs in the total carb count) and tastes almost too good to be true.


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brimmy, could you take half a serving and mix it with other noodles shiritaki or even zucchini noodles to bulk the serving back up without adding a bunch of carbs?
Not a bad idea! Might give it shot sometime.
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I must confess to doing this with Dreamfield's pasta when I absolutely MUST have pasta. I will take 1oz serving and bulk it out with both shiritaki and zucchini noodles. Then split it between Denny (my sweetheart) and I. So we really only have 1/2oz serving. It doesn't kill my blood sugar like eating a whole 2oz serving.

Also, Nasoya has started making soy-free shiritaki noodles using garbanzo bean flour and potato starch that is (if memory serves) about 20cals/serving and 4g of net carbs? According to my friend Judy Barnes Baker, it tastes a lot like real pasta (in texture). I need to find them and order to see how they are.
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Also, Nasoya has started making soy-free shiritaki noodles using garbanzo bean flour and potato starch that is (if memory serves) about 20cals/serving and 4g of net carbs? According to my friend Judy Barnes Baker, it tastes a lot like real pasta (in texture). I need to find them and order to see how they are.
If the nutrition facts are true I would try this stuff.
(113g p/serving: 0 Fat, 4 Carbs, 3 Fiber, 1 Protein. What is the other 105g? water, calcium hydroxide, and folic acid?)

Regardless, I will see if netrition.com has them the next time I place an order. (Hint - Hint).
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I must confess to doing this with Dreamfield's pasta when I absolutely MUST have pasta. I will take 1oz serving and bulk it out with both shiritaki and zucchini noodles. Then split it between Denny (my sweetheart) and I. So we really only have 1/2oz serving. It doesn't kill my blood sugar like eating a whole 2oz serving.

Also, Nasoya has started making soy-free shiritaki noodles using garbanzo bean flour and potato starch that is (if memory serves) about 20cals/serving and 4g of net carbs? According to my friend Judy Barnes Baker, it tastes a lot like real pasta (in texture). I need to find them and order to see how they are.
I use the soy free noodles, they are slightly better than the soy ones texture wise, but you wouldn't be able to fool anyone into thinking this is real pasta unfortunately - Still has that rubbery bite.

I'm glad you posted about this OP because I had this product on my list for my next netrition order.
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Well, I'm eating some of these noodles as I post this...

Don't worry about the carbs, you may not be able to eat enough of them for it to matter. Maybe I didn't make them right but they're not so great.
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Well, I'm eating some of these noodles as I post this...

Don't worry about the carbs, you may not be able to eat enough of them for it to matter. Maybe I didn't make them right but they're not so great.
I found this to be true also.
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Please tell me??

Are black bean noodles gaseous?? Black beans ARE!
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