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ERnurse 06-17-2013 07:49 AM

Great Value HWC has changed! Beware..
 
I picked up a carton of Great Value HWC yesterday at WM, and noticed they had changed the design of the carton. The old carton was white with red lettering, this is red with white lettering. The packages were the same "Heavy Whipping Cream, Grade A, pasteurized" so I just assumed it was new redesigned packaging. Boy, was I wrong! The minute I poured it in my coffee this morning I knew they also changed the cream. I turned to the nutrition info, and imagine my surprise when the new carton now lists MILK as the second ingredient! :sick: The carb count is now 1g where as the old carton shows 0g. (we all know it's not 0, but it sure isn't 1!) I should have looked at the nutritional info before I bought it. :mad:

Sharss 06-17-2013 08:12 AM

Email the company stating what you stated in your Post. People don't realize how much an email or phone call counts. Companies really do pay attention.

I do that with positive remarks also when something impresses me. I called a company who makes those plastic storage boxes because I appreciated how the labels peeled right off. One has to fight to get rid of labels to really appreciate that. :laugh: Anyway, the gal was so sweet and appreciated the call. She said she'd pass it on to the rest of the employees.

One time, back when I ate cookies, I called to complain about their packaging and how the foil tore when opening. I said, "Don't you guys eat these cookies and know this happens?" :laugh: Took awhile, but they did change their packaging.

tomswife 06-17-2013 10:46 AM

Thanks for this! That's the brand I get. I use to get the Albertsons brand until they closed in this area. It's amazing to me how hard it is to find cream with just cream in it. I was planning on a trip to Walmart tomorrow to get some cream so now I have to hunt again.

astribling 06-17-2013 10:50 AM

Thanks for the heads up! That's what I use. I just checked the one I bought about a week ago and it's still ok. But I will be sure to check from now on.

Weezy 06-17-2013 11:03 AM

The WalMarts in my area NEVER had just pure cream. Even companies like Whole Foods don't carry plain cream--everything has some sort of stabilizer like carrageenan in it and I'm really sensitive (blood sugar) to those types of things.

However, Trader Joe's has real, pure cream in small lavender cartons--it's a Trader Joe's brand, 99 cents per carton. It used to look the same but was labeled Sunshine Dairy (I think that's out of Portland, OR). Don't know if TJs in all areas carry this, but it's good, no additives, and cost effective. I'll trade grass fed/organic for no stabilizers any day!

If you have no TJs nearby, you might look for Sunshine Dairy (if you're on the west coast/northwest).

Oh...also...some of the business/commercial Costcos are now carrying a Darigold version of pure cream. In the Seattle area, it's only at the Lynnwood commercial Costco (the one on Hwy. 99 near 196th). It's the same price as the TJs, but comes in half gallon containers. Pure cream, no stabilizers or additives.

dawnyama 06-17-2013 11:17 AM

Just checked my fridge and I have the older one you describe. Thanks for the heads up! I will be cautious with the next one I pick up.

solarpluvia 06-17-2013 12:26 PM

The Darigold half gallons of 40% cream from Costco or Cash & Carry do have carageenan and other stabilizers added. I've never seen any Darigold, even the smaller grocery store sizes of 36% and 30%, without them. But maybe Olympia is outside of the Darigold fresh stuff (it is all ultra pasturized) area. At least it is otherwise all cream.

Weezy 06-17-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarpluvia (Post 16474461)
The Darigold half gallons of 40% cream from Costco or Cash & Carry do have carageenan and other stabilizers added. I've never seen any Darigold, even the smaller grocery store sizes of 36% and 30%, without them. But maybe Olympia is outside of the Darigold fresh stuff (it is all ultra pasturized) area. At least it is otherwise all cream.


That's why I was so surprised to find the "pure" cream at the Lynnwood commercial Costco. The pure stuff is in plastic containers and it may be a quart as opposed to a half gallon (I forget and we don't have any at the moment). I can't use the standard Darigold HWC because its so full of stabilizers/additives. Wish I could use it--easy to find and cheap!

MsWoods 06-17-2013 12:53 PM

Wow, thanks so much for this. I also use this kind.

Threads like this really are the most helpful thing around. I wish more people would post things like this. I have bought GV HWC for so long I don't even bother to look anymore.

tomswife 06-17-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weezy (Post 16474335)
The WalMarts in my area NEVER had just pure cream. Even companies like Whole Foods don't carry plain cream--everything has some sort of stabilizer like carrageenan in it and I'm really sensitive (blood sugar) to those types of things.

However, Trader Joe's has real, pure cream in small lavender cartons--it's a Trader Joe's brand, 99 cents per carton. It used to look the same but was labeled Sunshine Dairy (I think that's out of Portland, OR). Don't know if TJs in all areas carry this, but it's good, no additives, and cost effective. I'll trade grass fed/organic for no stabilizers any day!

If you have no TJs nearby, you might look for Sunshine Dairy (if you're on the west coast/northwest).

Oh...also...some of the business/commercial Costcos are now carrying a Darigold version of pure cream. In the Seattle area, it's only at the Lynnwood commercial Costco (the one on Hwy. 99 near 196th). It's the same price as the TJs, but comes in half gallon containers. Pure cream, no stabilizers or additives.

The Albertsons brand listed just cream. I live in the Northwest but don't have a Trader joes to close to me. But last time I checked (about a year ago) they didn't have any cream without stabilizers. I was surprised since they're suppose to be more organic. I've never heard of Sunshine Dairy but I'll keep my eyes open for it. Thanks,

Weezy 06-17-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomswife (Post 16474501)
The Albertsons brand listed just cream. I live in the Northwest but don't have a Trader joes to close to me. But last time I checked (about a year ago) they didn't have any cream without stabilizers. I was surprised since they're suppose to be more organic. I've never heard of Sunshine Dairy but I'll keep my eyes open for it. Thanks,

I never knew about the Albertson's brand...I don't usually shop there, but there's an Albertson's almost next door to the TJs. I'll check it out and see what they carry.

We've been buying the pure cream at TJs for about 18 months now, but it seems like store products vary--there's one TJs locally that doesn't carry the pure cream at all, but the other two do. Go figure.

I've learned to read labels every time I buy something because I don't trust the manufacturers not to change something.

avid 06-17-2013 02:09 PM

threads like this is why LCF is the absolute best.
Kudo's to ERnurse for sharing this info.
I use the GV brand. The carrageneen never bothered me because the
product is dreamily creamy. Now with milk??????
ugh! I may have to get my hwc at publix. My walmart only carries GV hwc.

debkeversole 06-17-2013 02:23 PM

thank you for posting this GEEZE i wish they would leave things alone

DD80 06-17-2013 02:46 PM

TJ's brand organic heavy cream is only cream. It's a lot thicker than other brands, I have found. It is also 60 cals/TBL as opposed to Horizen Organics, which is 50 cal/TBL. I bought Horizen, because I was at Costco and didn't want to make another stop, but it does have the carageenen.

wicked 06-17-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ERnurse (Post 16474034)
I picked up a carton of Great Value HWC yesterday at WM, and noticed they had changed the design of the carton. The old carton was white with red lettering, this is red with white lettering. The packages were the same "Heavy Whipping Cream, Grade A, pasteurized" so I just assumed it was new redesigned packaging. Boy, was I wrong! The minute I poured it in my coffee this morning I knew they also changed the cream. I turned to the nutrition info, and imagine my surprise when the new carton now lists MILK as the second ingredient! :sick: The carb count is now 1g where as the old carton shows 0g. (we all know it's not 0, but it sure isn't 1!) I should have looked at the nutritional info before I bought it. :mad:


That sure sounds like half and half to me.;)

PianoAl 06-17-2013 04:27 PM

The fat phobes strike again.

DeltaSierra 06-17-2013 06:45 PM

How will it whip if its mostly milk??? Crazy.

greybb1 06-17-2013 07:11 PM

The various names of "cream" are regulated in the US by the amount of butterfat contained. So, if Milk is an ingredient, the HWD must have 38% butterfat.

Half-and-Half: 12% fat
Light Cream: 20% fat
Light Whipping Cream: 30% fat
Whipping Cream: 35% fat
Heavy Cream and Heavy Whipping Cream: 38% fat
Whole Milk: 3.25%

From "Dairy Farming Today"
"Cream is the high-fat milk product
separated from milk. Milk,
concentrated milk, dry whole
milk, nonfat milk, concentrated
nonfat milk or nonfat dry milk
may be added.
Also included may
be emulsifiers, stabilizers, nutritive
sweeteners, flavorings and other
optional ingredients. Cream must
contain at least 18% milk fat. All
cream products are pasteurized
or ultrapasteurized"

Strawberry 06-17-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

The fat phobes strike again
Actually I think they are trying to increase their profit by diluting more expensive cream with cheaper milk.

KOO 06-17-2013 11:52 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I just bought half & half last night and noticed the new purple packaging (changed from the blue). I didn't buy HWC, but will check it out when I return to get some.

srmil30 06-18-2013 05:13 AM

Thanks for the heads up. My Walmart still has the red and white carton. I am going to run by and pick up a couple of cartons. We use it in coffee and other recipes so it will be used up before the expiration date.

greybb1 06-18-2013 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strawberry (Post 16475093)
Actually I think they are trying to increase their profit by diluting more expensive cream with cheaper milk.

By law, it has to contain 38% butterfat. It can't be diluted and still be called HWC.

Vilya 06-18-2013 05:45 AM

I just found a local source for raw cream, and I'm interested to try it. I cannot find any commercial brand around here that is not ultra-pasteurized and does not have carrageenan in it...

lazy girl 06-18-2013 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greybb1 (Post 16474994)
The various names of "cream" are regulated in the US by the amount of butterfat contained. So, if Milk is an ingredient, the HWD must have 38% butterfat.

Half-and-Half: 12% fat
Light Cream: 20% fat
Light Whipping Cream: 30% fat
Whipping Cream: 35% fat
Heavy Cream and Heavy Whipping Cream: 38% fat
Whole Milk: 3.25%

From "Dairy Farming Today"
"Cream is the high-fat milk product
separated from milk. Milk,
concentrated milk, dry whole
milk, nonfat milk, concentrated
nonfat milk or nonfat dry milk
may be added.
Also included may
be emulsifiers, stabilizers, nutritive
sweeteners, flavorings and other
optional ingredients. Cream must
contain at least 18% milk fat. All
cream products are pasteurized
or ultrapasteurized"

Without knowing the butterfat content of the original product, it may be that Walmart has switched products instead of changing the formula.

Jebber 06-18-2013 06:16 AM

Wow. Thanks for the alert. I use this brand sometimes. Lately, Aldi has had HWC, so I get it there. I'll be sure to ck labels now. This makes me glad I'm trying to wean myself off of HWC. I've been drinking BPC in the mornings now with just a splash of cream.

debkeversole 06-18-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilya (Post 16475292)
I just found a local source for raw cream, and I'm interested to try it. I cannot find any commercial brand around here that is not ultra-pasteurized and does not have carrageenan in it...

ooh i wish i could find a source i am happy for you!

avid 06-18-2013 02:13 PM

I was at walmart today and checked out the hwc. the gv was still in the familiar container and still lists zero carbs. Next to it was landolakes hwc....it listed 1g of carb
I noticed that neither product listed milk as an ingrediant althougth each had "contains milk" under 'allergy alerts'...both also had carageneen. And so it goes.

SkeeterN 06-18-2013 06:13 PM

At my Walmart, the HWC was still in the same carton (white with red letters) but the "fat free half and half" was in a carton like you described. Red with white letters. I still cannot wrap my head around how a product can be fat free half and half when half and half is suppose to be half cream/half milk. If you read the ingredients it has corn syrup in it. These are also fairly close to one another in the dairy case.

cfine 06-18-2013 06:17 PM

Mine is still the same.

astribling 06-18-2013 06:18 PM

Checked mine today too, and it's still all good!


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